E-Cat, l'energy catalizer di Andrea Rossi: il test del 6 ottobre 2011
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0:09 - 0:12Cold Fusion, E-CAT - 2011, October 6th
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0:12 - 0:14directed by Massimo Brega, Interviews by Raymond Zreick
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0:15 - 0:17E-Cat, the water test: Bologna, 2011, October 6th.
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0:17 - 0:20Andrea Rossi's E-Cat, a cold fusion device designed to produce plenty of cheap power
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0:20 - 0:22is about to be tested again.
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0:22 - 0:26THE WATER TEST - It must prove to be able to work in self substained mode and warm up running water.
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0:27 - 0:29This is the most complete test they've had so far:
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0:29 - 0:31will the scientist be satisfied?
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0:32 - 0:36Andrea Rossi, E-Cat's father: "In the foregoing public tests
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0:36 - 0:39we measured the output energy during the steam stage:
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0:40 - 0:49it was more complicated, and generated discussions,
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0:51 - 0:54pointless discussions, if you ask me.
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0:55 - 0:59Today's measurement tecnique is much easier:
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0:59 - 1:03the steam goes through a heat exchanger
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1:03 - 1:05and warms up running water.
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1:06 - 1:09The output energy is measured on this second water circuit, on liquid water.
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1:12 - 1:13This make it easier to measure it."
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1:13 - 1:16Do you think this is the best test Rossi ever arranged?
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1:17 - 1:24Christos Stremmenos, physicist and chemist: "This test is clear, unmistakable
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1:24 - 1:28with regards to the energy output.
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1:28 - 1:30I mean thermic energy."
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1:30 - 1:33Which results do you expect from this test?
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1:33 - 1:40"An E-Cat such this one should produce around 3-4 kW of power."
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1:40 - 1:42Is this test arranged for new potential business partners?
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1:43 - 1:47"We have many potential business partners
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1:47 - 1:53but this test is not for them.
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1:53 - 1:58It is not a business oriented test.
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1:58 - 2:00Our potential business partners are not here."
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2:01 - 2:02TESTS IN THE U.S.A.?
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2:02 - 2:05There have been rumors about you testing the E-Cat with the NASA...
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2:05 - 2:08"No, I didn't. It's a blunder.
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2:08 - 2:10We had many tests in the USA:
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2:10 - 2:16Leonardo Corp. is based there
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2:16 - 2:19which is the company that produces these devices.
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2:19 - 2:23But we had no tests with the NASA.
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2:25 - 2:33I met the NASA: we talked, we started up negotiations
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2:33 - 2:34but no test."
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2:34 - 2:36Where does the idea of the E-Cat come from?
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2:37 - 2:40"I designed the device.
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2:41 - 2:46Professor Focardi provided very important advice
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2:46 - 2:49with regard to nuclear physics
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2:49 - 2:57but the device is designed and produced by Leonardo Corp.
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2:58 - 2:59I invented it."
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3:00 - 3:04How far is the E-Cat from Sergio Focardi's works?
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3:05 - 3:08Sergio Focardi, physicist: "Quite far.
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3:08 - 3:16First of all, my works were quite rough
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3:16 - 3:20my devices were hand made in a University context
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3:20 - 3:22nobody ever funded my research because
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3:22 - 3:28in everybody's opinion that phenomenon didn't exist."
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3:29 - 3:32What do the E-Cat and Focardi's work have in common?
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3:33 - 3:39"They both work with hydrogen and nickel
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3:39 - 3:43these are the main ingredients.
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3:43 - 3:48Here there is some kind of additive that enhances the reaction
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3:48 - 3:56we didn't have that, and we also didn't know the reaction that well."
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3:56 - 4:01Will the E-Cat be able to draw the scientific world's attention?
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4:01 - 4:04"Yes, and that's why:
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4:04 - 4:10the E-Cat works thanks to a nuclear fusion phenomenon
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4:10 - 4:15between nickel and hydrogen
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4:15 - 4:25at low temperature, not higher that a few hundreds degrees [Celsius].
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4:25 - 4:28It's a nuclear neaction.
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4:29 - 4:35Well, the scientific world thinks that nuclear reactions [such this one]
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4:35 - 4:37only happen inside the stars."
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4:38 - 4:43What is the scientific world's attitude?
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4:43 - 4:48"Many colleagues still don't believe in our results
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4:48 - 4:51because they think it's impossible!
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4:51 - 4:57But their attitude is incredible, it goes against science.
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4:57 - 5:01Science teaches that if you prove something, then it's true."
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5:02 - 5:06What is the reason of such distrust?
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5:07 - 5:16Mats Lewan, journalist (NyTeknik): "If this works, it's going to need a new physics.
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5:16 - 5:22The core of this reactor is of the size of a potato:
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5:22 - 5:28not big enough to hold fuel inside itself
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5:28 - 5:32and produce heat thanks to a chemical reaction. It must be a nuclear reaction,
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5:32 - 5:36'cause only a nuclear reaction can produce so much power in such a small room.
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5:36 - 5:41Nuclear reaction are a million times more powerfull then chemical ones,
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5:41 - 5:45per atom, per mass.
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5:45 - 5:49And we don't know any nuclear reaction that produces this kind of power in this way
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5:49 - 5:51therefore it will need a new physics."
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5:52 - 5:56What can we expect from this kind of technology?
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5:57 - 6:01"It could help finding the solutions to many problems
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6:01 - 6:13energy problems, but other fields might also be involved.
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6:13 - 6:16In general terms, when a new technology is born
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6:16 - 6:20we know, by experience, that it's almost impossible to imagine
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6:20 - 6:25the consequences it might generate.
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6:25 - 6:27We're almost never able to imagine the final results it might lead to.
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6:27 - 6:30Take the laser, for instance: who would have imagined
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6:30 - 6:32it would bring to dvd players?
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6:32 - 6:33Nobody, and that's just an example.
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6:33 - 6:37Who invented the phonograph didn't think of music business.
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6:38 - 6:40It's hard to tell what it might lead to in the long run.
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6:40 - 6:46In the short run, it produces heat
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6:46 - 6:52and with heat you can warm up buildings, for instance, or even cool them.
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6:52 - 6:55With heat you can produce air conditioning.
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6:55 - 7:03And, very important, you can boil water, and desalinate sea water
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7:03 - 7:06producing clean water all over the world.
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7:06 - 7:08This would be a revolution itself."
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7:09 - 7:12The E-Cat would be a revolution. Did anybody tried to meddle or stop you?
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7:13 - 7:24"Well, yes, this technology could lead to consequences both important and complicated.
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7:24 - 7:31Someone tried to interfere, but it wasn't a big problem, and it didn't stop us from going on with our operations."
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7:32 - 7:36At the end of the test, the "secret ingredient" is still a mistery...
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7:37 - 7:44"The black box where the heating reaction takes place
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7:44 - 7:49it should be about the size of a potato:
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7:49 - 7:5250 cm3.
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7:52 - 7:54We can't look inside it."
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7:55 - 7:58Why do you need to use electric power at the beginning of the test?
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7:59 - 8:03It warms a resistance up
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8:03 - 8:09and the resistance warms up the reactor, it triggers the reaction.
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8:09 - 8:11If i got it right, the reaction begins
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8:11 - 8:14when the reactor reaches a temperature of about 60°
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8:14 - 8:15something like that.
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8:16 - 8:24With this setup, the electric power is fed to the device for a long time
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8:24 - 8:30to make the reaction stable
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8:30 - 8:35so that later we can switch the electric power off."
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8:37 - 8:40What does it mean that the E-Cat works in self substained mode?
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8:41 - 8:45"At first, Rossi switches the electric power off for about 10 minutes.
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8:45 - 8:49Then he swithces it on, and after a while he switches it off again.
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8:49 - 8:52He keeps on switching it off and on for a while,
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8:52 - 8:55it seems that this is necessary to make the reaction stable.
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8:55 - 9:00Then he switches it completely off, except fot the power that feeds the control console
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9:00 - 9:04which uses about 100 W, not more than a light bulb does.
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9:04 - 9:08It's been working in self substained mode for a couple of hours now."
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9:09 - 9:12Mats Lewan thought that Rossi should have had the test running on till late night...
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9:12 - 9:15Instead, he shut the E-Cat down around 19:30
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9:15 - 9:21"I hope the E-Cat will be working in self substained mode for at least two more hours
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9:21 - 9:28we could shut it down around 22, 23, even midnight.
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9:31 - 9:35After that, we'd still have to wait [before we can open it]:
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9:37 - 9:41to end the reaction, you have to take the hydrogen off the reactor
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9:41 - 9:43but it will still produce heat for a while even so."
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9:43 - 9:46Mats Lewan noted down all measurements on his notepad.
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9:46 - 9:48How is the test going?
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9:49 - 9:54"If we can trust the measures we see,
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9:54 - 9:56we have a certain water flow rate,
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9:56 - 10:00a centain delta T between the input and output water.
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10:00 - 10:02If the numbers are corrects
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10:02 - 10:11the output power is around 4-5 kW.
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10:11 - 10:18Watt measure power. Energy is how much is piled up during a certaind amount of time.
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10:18 - 10:24Input power (electric power) was around 2,5 kW:
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10:24 - 10:28half the output power.
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10:28 - 10:32In theory, one could say that the E-Cat stores
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10:32 - 10:37the electric power you feed it in the beginning
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10:37 - 10:38to use it later.
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10:38 - 10:41But if it works in self substained mode for many hours,
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10:41 - 10:42that is not an option anymore."
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10:42 - 10:47Are you satisfied with the results? Did everything go as you expected?
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10:47 - 10:52"Today's test went well, i'm satisfied enough
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10:52 - 11:00even if I saw a few imperfections I'll have to fix."
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11:01 - 11:05Did these imperfections affect the results?
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11:06 - 11:10"No. Engeneering reached its final stages.
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11:10 - 11:16No, we know it works,
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11:16 - 11:21we were already sure it worked, when we took the measurements from the steam.
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11:21 - 11:27We know what we're doing. I think we are on the right path."
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11:28 - 11:31What about tomorrow?
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11:32 - 11:39"The next step is the start up of this 1 MW plant we're in right now."
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11:41 - 11:46E-Cat succesful or not?
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11:46 - 11:49The scientists who were at the test are satisfied:
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11:49 - 11:53The E-Cat worked on self substained mode for 3 hours and a half
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11:53 - 11:56and the first numbers confirm it can produce power by itself.
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11:57 - 12:00Nevertheless most of the scientific world is still sceptical about the results
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12:00 - 12:02and has doubts about the reliability and the setup of the test.
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12:02 - 12:05Andrea Rossi answers these critiques on Focus.it:
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12:05 - 12:06"I won't give any other demonstration.
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12:06 - 12:07I'm going to hit the market, our customers will speak for us!"
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12:07 - 12:09All the updates on E-Cat, Andrea Rossi and cold fusion on www.focus.it
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12:09 -subs by Irene Zreick
- Title:
- E-Cat, l'energy catalizer di Andrea Rossi: il test del 6 ottobre 2011
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(english subtitles from Focus magazine: coming soon)
Il video del test di Bologna del 6 ottobre con le interviste a Andrea Rossi, Sergio Focardi, Christos Stremmenos e Mats Lewan. Altre notizie su Focus.it (http://www.focus.it/dossier/dossier-fusione-fredda/), con le risposte di Rossi alle prime domande dei lettori di Focus.
LA PROVA DELL'ACQUA - Il test di Bologna del 6 ottobre è stato il primo del suo genere per l'E-Cat, l'invenzione di Andrea Rossi che sfruttando il principio della fusione nucleare potrebbe produrre energia in abbondanza e a basso costo. Il suo "catalizzatore di energia" (E-Cat) ha infatti funzionato in auto-sostentamento, ossia senza alimentazione elettrica, producendo energia attraverso una reazione che si suppone essere di "fusione nucleare" controllata, senza emissioni radioattive e a bassa temperatura (e perciò è detta di "fusione fredda").
In più, le misure dell'energia termica prodotta (calore) sono state prese su di un circuito d'acqua: questo metodo è più affidabile delle misure effettuate su di un circuito di vapore, com'è avvenuto durante i test precedenti.
Al termine di una lunga serie di prove ufficialmente iniziata il 14 gennaio 2011 Andrea Rossi ha dunque fatto un passo in più per dimostrare che la sua idea funziona.
Tuttavia non tutti pensano che sia sufficiente: resta scettico - quando non apertamente ostile - buona parte del mondo scientifico, che ritiene improbabile la fusione nucleare a bassa temperatura. E anche molti esperti che in questi mesi hanno seguito le vicende dell'E-Cat giudicano ancora insufficienti o poco chiare le prove e i test fatti da Andrea Rossi.
- Video Language:
- Italian
- Duration:
- 12:11
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