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Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.50,0:00:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cold Fusion, E-CAT - 2011, October 6th
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.62,0:00:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directed by Massimo Brega, Interviews by Raymond Zreick
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.22,0:00:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E-Cat, the water test: Bologna, 2011, October 6th.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.27,0:00:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrea Rossi's E-Cat, a cold fusion device designed to produce plenty of cheap power
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.95,0:00:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is about to be tested again.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.72,0:00:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,THE WATER TEST - It must prove to be able to work in self substained mode and warm up running water.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.64,0:00:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the most complete test they've had so far:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.75,0:00:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will the scientist be satisfied?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.36,0:00:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrea Rossi, E-Cat's father: "In the foregoing public tests
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.09,0:00:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we measured the output energy during the steam stage:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.08,0:00:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was more complicated, and generated discussions,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.74,0:00:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pointless discussions, if you ask me.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.52,0:00:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today's measurement tecnique is much easier:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.82,0:01:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the steam goes through a heat exchanger
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.70,0:01:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and warms up running water.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.11,0:01:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The output energy is measured on this second water circuit, on liquid water.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.76,0:01:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This make it easier to measure it."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.36,0:01:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think this is the best test Rossi ever arranged?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.65,0:01:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christos Stremmenos, physicist and chemist: "This test is clear, unmistakable
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.78,0:01:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regards to the energy output.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.68,0:01:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean thermic energy."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which results do you expect from this test?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.38,0:01:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"An E-Cat such this one should produce around 3-4 kW of power."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.37,0:01:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this test arranged for new potential business partners?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.83,0:01:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We have many potential business partners
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.60,0:01:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this test is not for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.92,0:01:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not a business oriented test.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.72,0:02:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our potential business partners are not here."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.46,0:02:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,TESTS IN THE U.S.A.?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.28,0:02:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been rumors about you testing the E-Cat with the NASA...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.78,0:02:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, I didn't. It's a blunder.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.56,0:02:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had many tests in the USA:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.33,0:02:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leonardo Corp. is based there
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.58,0:02:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the company that produces these devices.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.44,0:02:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we had no tests with the NASA.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.72,0:02:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met the NASA: we talked, we started up negotiations
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.64,0:02:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but no test."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.10,0:02:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does the idea of the E-Cat come from?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.80,0:02:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I designed the device.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.89,0:02:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professor Focardi provided very important advice
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.71,0:02:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regard to nuclear physics
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.92,0:02:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the device is designed and produced by Leonardo Corp.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.70,0:02:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invented it."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.97,0:03:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How far is the E-Cat from Sergio Focardi's works?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.42,0:03:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sergio Focardi, physicist: "Quite far.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.23,0:03:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, my works were quite rough
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.20,0:03:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my devices were hand made in a University context
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.70,0:03:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody ever funded my research because
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.17,0:03:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in everybody's opinion that phenomenon didn't exist."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.04,0:03:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do the E-Cat and Focardi's work have in common?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.26,0:03:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They both work with hydrogen and nickel
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.24,0:03:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are the main ingredients.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.56,0:03:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here there is some kind of additive that enhances the reaction
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.08,0:03:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't have that, and we also didn't know the reaction that well."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.29,0:04:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will the E-Cat be able to draw the scientific world's attention?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.18,0:04:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, and that's why:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.48,0:04:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the E-Cat works thanks to a nuclear fusion phenomenon
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.08,0:04:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between nickel and hydrogen
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.32,0:04:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at low temperature, not higher that a few hundreds degrees [Celsius].
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.26,0:04:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a nuclear neaction.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.80,0:04:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the scientific world thinks that nuclear reactions [such this one]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.86,0:04:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only happen inside the stars."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.30,0:04:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the scientific world's attitude?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.24,0:04:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Many colleagues still don't believe in our results
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.64,0:04:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they think it's impossible!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.18,0:04:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But their attitude is incredible, it goes against science.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.36,0:05:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Science teaches that if you prove something, then it's true."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.59,0:05:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the reason of such distrust?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.98,0:05:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mats Lewan, journalist (NyTeknik): "If this works, it's going to need a new physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.36,0:05:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The core of this reactor is of the size of a potato:
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.28,0:05:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not big enough to hold fuel inside itself
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.79,0:05:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and produce heat thanks to a chemical reaction. It must be a nuclear reaction,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.10,0:05:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause only a nuclear reaction can produce so much power in such a small room.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.24,0:05:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nuclear reaction are a million times more powerfull then chemical ones,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.27,0:05:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,per atom, per mass.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.85,0:05:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we don't know any nuclear reaction that produces this kind of power in this way
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.24,0:05:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore it will need a new physics."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.59,0:05:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can we expect from this kind of technology?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.16,0:06:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It could help finding the solutions to many problems
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.14,0:06:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy problems, but other fields might also be involved.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.92,0:06:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In general terms, when a new technology is born
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.07,0:06:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know, by experience, that it's almost impossible to imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.77,0:06:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the consequences it might generate.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.52,0:06:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're almost never able to imagine the final results it might lead to.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.50,0:06:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take the laser, for instance: who would have imagined
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.39,0:06:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would bring to dvd players?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.55,0:06:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody, and that's just an example.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.19,0:06:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who invented the phonograph didn't think of music business.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.96,0:06:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard to tell what it might lead to in the long run.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.48,0:06:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the short run, it produces heat
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.56,0:06:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with heat you can warm up buildings, for instance, or even cool them.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.99,0:06:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With heat you can produce air conditioning.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.24,0:07:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, very important, you can boil water, and desalinate sea water
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.04,0:07:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producing clean water all over the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.08,0:07:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This would be a revolution itself."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.57,0:07:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The E-Cat would be a revolution. Did anybody tried to meddle or stop you?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.66,0:07:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, yes, this technology could lead to consequences both important and complicated.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone tried to interfere, but it wasn't a big problem, and it didn't stop us from going on with our operations."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.65,0:07:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the test, the "secret ingredient" is still a mistery...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.84,0:07:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The black box where the heating reaction takes place
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.88,0:07:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it should be about the size of a potato:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.19,0:07:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,50 cm3.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.08,0:07:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't look inside it."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.52,0:07:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you need to use electric power at the beginning of the test?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.35,0:08:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It warms a resistance up
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.90,0:08:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the resistance warms up the reactor, it triggers the reaction.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.54,0:08:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If i got it right, the reaction begins
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.48,0:08:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the reactor reaches a temperature of about 60°
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.68,0:08:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.99,0:08:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With this setup, the electric power is fed to the device for a long time
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.00,0:08:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make the reaction stable
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.56,0:08:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that later we can switch the electric power off."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.20,0:08:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean that the E-Cat works in self substained mode?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.76,0:08:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"At first, Rossi switches the electric power off for about 10 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.40,0:08:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he swithces it on, and after a while he switches it off again.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.07,0:08:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He keeps on switching it off and on for a while,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.42,0:08:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems that this is necessary to make the reaction stable.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.80,0:09:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then he switches it completely off, except fot the power that feeds the control console
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.32,0:09:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which uses about 100 W, not more than a light bulb does.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.88,0:09:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been working in self substained mode for a couple of hours now."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.52,0:09:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mats Lewan thought that Rossi should have had the test running on till late night...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.26,0:09:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead, he shut the E-Cat down around 19:30
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.22,0:09:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I hope the E-Cat will be working in self substained mode for at least two more hours
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.79,0:09:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could shut it down around 22, 23, even midnight.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.52,0:09:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, we'd still have to wait [before we can open it]:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.62,0:09:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to end the reaction, you have to take the hydrogen off the reactor
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.64,0:09:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it will still produce heat for a while even so."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.44,0:09:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mats Lewan noted down all measurements on his notepad.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.21,0:09:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is the test going?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.20,0:09:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If we can trust the measures we see,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.88,0:09:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a certain water flow rate,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.89,0:09:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a centain delta T between the input and output water.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.56,0:10:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the numbers are corrects
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.88,0:10:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the output power is around 4-5 kW.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.86,0:10:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watt measure power. Energy is how much is piled up during a certaind amount of time.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.76,0:10:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Input power (electric power) was around 2,5 kW:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.18,0:10:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half the output power.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.64,0:10:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In theory, one could say that the E-Cat stores
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.49,0:10:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the electric power you feed it in the beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.52,0:10:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use it later.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.48,0:10:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if it works in self substained mode for many hours,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.92,0:10:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not an option anymore."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.32,0:10:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you satisfied with the results? Did everything go as you expected?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.32,0:10:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Today's test went well, i'm satisfied enough
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.44,0:10:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if I saw a few imperfections I'll have to fix."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.82,0:11:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did these imperfections affect the results?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.96,0:11:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No. Engeneering reached its final stages.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.12,0:11:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, we know it works,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.56,0:11:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were already sure it worked, when we took the measurements from the steam.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.76,0:11:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know what we're doing. I think we are on the right path."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.92,0:11:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about tomorrow?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.52,0:11:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The next step is the start up of this 1 MW plant we're in right now."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.64,0:11:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,E-Cat succesful or not?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.89,0:11:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The scientists who were at the test are satisfied:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.06,0:11:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The E-Cat worked on self substained mode for 3 hours and a half
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.80,0:11:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the first numbers confirm it can produce power by itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.88,0:11:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nevertheless most of the scientific world is still sceptical about the results
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.52,0:12:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has doubts about the reliability and the setup of the test.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.32,0:12:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrea Rossi answers these critiques on Focus.it:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.60,0:12:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I won't give any other demonstration.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.15,0:12:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to hit the market, our customers will speak for us!"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.43,0:12:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the updates on E-Cat, Andrea Rossi and cold fusion on www.focus.it
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.16,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subs by Irene Zreick