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Étienne Chouard - conférence sur la création monétaire - Marseille

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    The Monetary Creation Stakes
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    Hello, I am glad to see so many of you.
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    I have been working for 6 years on
    2 unusual but fundamental subjects
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    that are discussed nowhere in the
    media, though.
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    I came to that step by step.
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    Like many of us I was politically
    inactive before 2005
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    and I woke up to this during the
    debates about
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    the european union constitution.
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    Reading this text I got scared because
    this text was incompatible
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    with our national constitution and it
    was clearly made to overcome it.
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    I knew that this treaty was a bad
    constitution because
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    it left people helpless against abuses
    of power.
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    I saw it and denounced it.
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    I was lucky to be heard.
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    This kind of luck changes a man because
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    my point spread widely and quickly
    on internet.
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    People started to discuss and
    criticize it,
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    I spent nights to answer them,
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    I had to sharpen my arguments and
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    all this helped me to greatly improve
    on the subject.
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    Finally...
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    I am trying to summarize briefly what
    brought me to this in 2005.
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    After 2 months I got nearly 800,000
    visits on my website,
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    about 40,000 a day during the
    last month.
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    It is quite something for a
    normal person.
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    I had never been in politics before and
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    My audience was never larger than a
    classroom before that.
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    People sent me like 400 emails a day,
    some enthusiastic, some moving.
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    But I got some incisive emails too,
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    calling me a fraud or an idiot,
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    some very nasty emails.
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    I spent nights to answer them first
    but there were too many.
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    Therefore I started to answer people
    on my web site.
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    I answered to these people
    once for all because
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    everybody told me almost
    the same thing.
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    So I published my answers to these
    emails on my web site.
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    And you pay a particular attention
    to your answers when you know
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    that you will be read by 40,000 people
    during the next 24 hours,
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    some of them seeking the first
    slightest mistake.
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    It urges you on to read much,
    to sharpen your arguments,
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    you seek help from any clever
    source around you.
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    Therefore, in my first text, I begged
    for people's participation.
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    It was incredible for me to have
    an opinion
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    that differed so much compared to
    what I heard on the radio.
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    I wrote:
    "please, tell me where I am wrong.
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    I must be wrong, I am no match for
    leading experts
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    like Giscard d'Estaing or Delors
    that built European Union.
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    In my text I wrote:
    "I might be wrong somewhere.
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    So please just tell me and I will
    correct my mistakes.
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    But as far as I know,
    this is my current position".
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    And...
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    it worked. People helped me and
    the final text is still
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    available on internet, it is called
    "Une Mauvaise Constitution".
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    And it is still very relevant since
    this very constitution
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    was finally adopted.
    You know that this so called
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    "new" constitution is a simple
    compilation of the older treaty.
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    The original treaty was
    simply differently rewritten.
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    With minor changes, but basically
    the same rules applied.
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    You know that the constitution
    voted in 2008 by the parliament
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    was rejected by referendum
    in the first place.
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    This is for me an authentic treason,
    a Coup d'Etat.
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    This is deeply legal for having been
    voted by the parliament
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    but this is exactly what I call an
    abuse of power.
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    This is precisely what I want
    to discuss today.
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    This is the heart of my work,
    what I am working hard for.
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    I...
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    I seek efficient solutions against
    abuses of power.
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    any case of abuses of power:
    abuses from socialists,
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    abuses from capitalists,
    abuses from people...
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    I intend to organize the society in a
    way that abuses are not possible.
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    And in general, abuses of power
    are done by rich people.
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    Not exclusively, people also
    might commit abuses.
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    For example a popular gathering
    might become
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    a furious mob and might commit
    injustices and abuses.
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    But it is most frequently done
    by rich people.
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    We will see when and how.
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    So I want to resist abuses of power.
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    For that I intend to identify the
    cause of the causes of abuses.
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    I mean that problems have
    more than one source
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    and
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    I observe that people I argue with,
    politicians from any party...
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    usually consider a unique aspect of
    power abuse, and fight it separately.
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    For example, one will take care of
    and only of ecology.
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    He will focus on that, he will spend
    all his energy on that
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    and he will drop other topics
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    He will not try to discover why ecology
    is no political concern,
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    why people who might want to fight for
    ecology have no political power
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    and how comes that people who destroy
    environment have political power...
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    both political and economical power.
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    Usually no one tries to understand
    that but when I seek for
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    the origin that enables the ecological
    destruction of the planet
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    I find a political cause...
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    and an economical cause.
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    I observe that large scale destructions
    are done by rich people
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    who rule politically by means of
    election.
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    Ecology is just an example, there are
    many topics like that.
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    For example, feminism...
    Currently, left people are focused on
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    fighting for feminism,
    fighting against racism
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    and have many similar positions
    I may agree with.
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    But all this is not the main problem
    for me.
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    The multiplicity of social strugles
    is dividing us...
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    because people fight consequences
    instead of fighting causes.
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    As if...
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    As if we had water-flood.
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    There is a faucet fully turned on,
    and there is a water-flood.
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    Everyone is mopping up and no one is
    considering turning off the faucet
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    As another example, imagine our social
    activity flowing like a river.
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    This river is extremely polluted by a
    pink foam representing unemployment.
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    On one side of the river, people are
    fighting against unemployment.
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    But these people never try to
    investigate upstream,
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    never far enough to discover the
    source of the problem.
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    And on the other side, people with
    another concern are doing their best
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    to repair ecologic damages, to urge
    people to respect the environment,
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    but once again, without looking for
    the original problem.
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    I am interested in all these topics and
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    when I try to identify the
    deepest cause of all these problems,
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    I always get the same answer.
    We always find...
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    rich people...
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    with power...
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    because they bought election.
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    They paid for the winner's campaign.
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    You always have manufacturers and
    bankers, namely rich people.
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    We will see that banks arose
    out of storekeepers.
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    So basically banks and manufacturers
    are alike,
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    it is the wealth accumulation that
    enables political corruption.
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    So...
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    My works are focused on 2 big topics:
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    the monetary creation, this will be
    the first part of my talk.
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    This is a wide topic and I could spend
    a whole day on that
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    so I will try to be as synthetic
    as possible.
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    I may come back to that later and go
    into the subject in greater depth
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    during a discussion, according to
    your wishes.
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    In the second part of my talk, we will
    discuss the joined political aspect:
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    I think that we won't take money control
    back from bankers without sortition.
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    For me, election is the problem. It is
    desperately considered as a sacred cow.
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    I can understand that
    multinational company
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    support the election principle.
    And they do it.
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    But there is something strange about
    left humanist people
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    who yearn for a peaceful society
    where arms dealers do not decide.
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    Oddly enough, they defend the election
    that enables rich people to buy power.
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    This will be the second topic
    of my talk.
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    I will show you the
    athenian democracy.
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    It is a great system that
    raises objections.
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    I have been working for a
    long time on that system
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    so I am able to refute all
    these objections so far.
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    But maybe you will ask me
    new questions.
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    This is exactly what I expect
    from this meeting:
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    new objections that I have not
    considered so far.
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    First, let's talk about money.
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    Well...
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    We are currently facing many
    social problems.
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    Society is under pressure
    because of difficulties
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    which seem mainly caused by
    unemployment.
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    In our economy where few are
    self sufficient...
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    we need money to trade
    between each other.
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    In a world where money is rare
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    and people who create it
    do not create enough,
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    we have to work to earn it,
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    so we strongly depend on jobs,
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    i.e. work that is willingly
    given by an employer.
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    And...
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    When we consider unemployment,
    there is something strange about it.
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    Jobs enable people to work
    in exchange for payment.
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    We do not lack workers,
    we have plenty of them.
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    And we do not lack things to do, we
    have plenty of useful things to do.
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    For example, we need to isolate
    buildings with
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    triple glazing to heat them
    with less energy.
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    We need to build housing for everyone.
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    Well, I won't tell more,
    there is plenty of
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    things to do for us all to live
    with dignity.
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    So there are people who are
    ready to work
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    and many things to do.
    We simply lack money.
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    And...
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    And... is it complicated to
    create money ?
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    No. It is not.
    So why are we lacking money ?
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    This is exactly my point:
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    understand why we lack money and
    discover the origin of that.
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    What is money ? Who creates it ?
    Is it hard to create ?
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    What are theories around that ?
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    I will be quick on that, but it is
    useful to know
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    the theory accepted by present
    economists.
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    And also to know alternative
    theories found in
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    human history.
    Some are very interesting.
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    And also monetary experiments,
    also very interesting.
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    I do not know all of them but...
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    I will tell what I have discovered
    so far and
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    you may also share your knowledge
    with me.
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    Because the number of money experiments
    is amazing and fascinating.
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    So,
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    how is money created today ?
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    I brought many books you may refer to.
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    I will often mention them in my talk.
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    About history of money...
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    When you learn about money,
    how old it is,
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    which form it took...
    you discover a fascinating story.
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    With a book dealing with history of
    money you will go through
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    human history and you will better
    understand the world today.
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    Because the way money became
    a privilege for few people,
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    has a great impact on the way
    we live in peace and prosper.
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    This is decisive for peace.
    In other words,
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    wars are mainly caused by bankers.
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    So it is crucial to understand this.
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    I have a huge amount of books
    dealing with money creation.
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    I selected the best of them for you.
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    There is a first great man, Galbraith,
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    he is dead, he has a son still living,
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    He wrote
    "Money: Whence It Came, Where It Went",
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    it is full of british humor,
    it is very nice to read.
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    He described greeds, cheatings,
    dirty tricks, plots...
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    Galbraith has a great credibility,
    he worked with important people.
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    He was a great economist together
    with a journalist and a humanist.
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    He took a stand for people against
    oligarchy, bureaucracy and injustice.
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    And his book...
    [Which period ?]
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    Mid and late 20th century,
    he died a few years ago.
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    And his son seems to be like him,
    a good man too.
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    In this book, the definition of
    money is great.
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    I put a mark on that...
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    I want to read it, it is very short.
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    He warns us...
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    There is something funny about that...
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    He explains that money is made
    complicated on purpose,
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    to confuse us like doctors
    a long time ago, like lawyers...
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    They maintain a technical jargon
    to keep underlings apart.
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    "The reader should proceed in these
    pages in the knowledge
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    that money is nothing more and
    nothing less than what he or she
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    always thought it was - what is
    commonly offered or received
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    for the purchase or sale of goods,
    services or other things"
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    Anything else is useless confusion.
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    Indeed, when we address money creation
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    and how this was stolen to the people,
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    we will see that it is not complicated.
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    There is a second book that I like,
    also very nice to read:
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    "La pensée monétaire de l'âge classique
    à nos jours" by Christian Tutin
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    "Tutin", T-U-T-I-N,
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    He quoted the best parts of
    contemporary experts on money:
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    from Locke to Hayek including
    Law, Cantillon, Hume, Thornton,
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    Ricardo, Marx, Fisher and of course
    Keynes and Friedman.
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    But it is not hard to read
    because it is the
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    best about money written
    by the best authors.
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    It is actually a fierce
    debate between
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    those people to determine
    what money is.
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    So a good book to understand
    the stakes.
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    I won't do history of money,
    I will tell you what it is now.
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    Today we have two kinds of money.
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    First, there is the money we use,
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    this money is mostly created
    by private banks.
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    And there is money created
    by the state.
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    A small part of it is paper money,
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    the other part is exchanged
    between banks.
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    So there are two kind of money.
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    The money exchanged between banks
    is not our concern.
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    You will never see it,
    it is just for banks.
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    And there is the money that
    we exchange between us.
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    It is hardly created by the state,
    it is mostly created by private banks.
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    How and when is it done ?
    Let us take an example
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    to see how money appears
    and then disappears.
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    Let's say, you need $100,000
    for your house.
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    You go to the bank and say:
    "please loan me $100,000".
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    The banker does not have
    this amount of money,
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    however if you are reliable
    he says "no problem".
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    If you are not reliable,
    there is a chance that you
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    do not pay off your debt
    and it will become the banker's
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    responsability to pay it back.
    So he pays attention to it.
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    I should stand up for that.
    The banker has a balance sheet.
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    I had a drawing for that.
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    There are assets and liabilities.
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    I am a bank, assets are what I am owed
    and liabilities are what I owe.
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    Liabilities are what I owe,
    so you want $100,000, here they are.
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    This is on my account,
    I owe you $100,000.
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    There is still something wrong,
    it is not balanced yet.
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    I have to write the same amount
    on both sides of the balance sheet.
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    For now it is not balanced,
    but what I wrote here
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    as liabilities, as debt of my bank,
    is new money.
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    I shall explain how it
    circulates after that.
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    And the credit operation is not
    completed yet. The banker says:
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    "I owe you $100,000" and in the
    same time: "you owe me $100,000".
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    On the other side, as assets
    he writes $100,000.
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    He says: "now you owe me $100,000".
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    When a bank gives someone credit,
    two debts are created.
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    Bank and borrower together
    create two debts.
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    The debt of the bank is paid now, and
    the debt of the borrower is paid later.
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    Difference lies in term.
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    [3 debts are created]
    What is the 3rd ?
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    [interests]
    Interests... indeed...
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    but interests are taken
    from existing money.
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    The money is only created
    from the amount that
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    people borrow and that is
    granted from banks.
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    Then, you pay off your debt with
    interests. For now I leave that apart.
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    There is $100,000 on both side of the
    balance sheet and then people pay back.
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    $10,000 back, $10,000 back, money is
    progressively destroyed on both sides.
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    And at the end, money disappears.
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    Money disappears. If everybody paid his
    debts, there would be no money left.
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    Almost nothing,
    just banknotes and coins.
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    [money as debt]
    Money as debt, indeed.
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    Any money that circulates through
    bank accounts is called
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    "demand deposit". It appears and
    disappears just as I said.
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    Money appears together with debts,
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    and disappears together with
    repayments.
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    More than 90% of the money today
    was created like that.
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    So... how comes...
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    I should also tell
    how it circulates.
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    The person has this amount of money
    on his bank account.
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    With that he will pay his suppliers
    and his workers.
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    A part of this money will leave his
    account for another in a bank B.
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    And it works the same way with assets
    and liabilities, so let's say
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    $10,000 have gone, there are $90,000
    left and $10,000 arrive here.
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    And money just go.
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    It is just a new entry on the
    "liabilities" column of a balance sheet.
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    Money is created as liabilities
    and circulates through liabilities
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    of banks with the help of checks,
    credit cards, transfers...
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    If you take an overview of the bank
    system, you see that money consists
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    of liabilities of all banks and
    circulates thanks to checks, etc...
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    Yes ?
    [It is like a unique bank]
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    Exactly ! They create money together,
    they lend to different people.
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    For example, I am J.P. Morgan, I hold
    10% of the stock market,
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    it means that I am in charge of 10%
    of the people's money,
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    and each time it lends 100, 90 go
    elsewhere and 10 remain for me.
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    In the same time, the other banks
    lend money too and
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    10% of these loans eventually
    come into my accounts.
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    So if all the banks together
    create $1,000 during a day,
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    $100 are for me, whatever
    the source of the loan is.
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    Each bank has to lend in proportion of
    the market share of its deposits.
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    If a bank lends more than the
    others in proportion,
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    money will go to other banks
    and it will have to
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    raise capital, that is it
    will have to pay...
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    I think that it is useless to go
    deeper into the detail.
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    We will come back to that when
    we talk about objections.
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    Bankers pretend that it is a
    strong restriction to
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    money creation that banks
    are in competition like that.
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    But if they lend money at the same
    pace, there is nothing to compensate.
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    The money supply consists of
    the sum of all
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    credits that have not
    been paid off yet.
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    It is like a bathtub that fills up with
    a faucet that represents new loans.
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    So any new credit contributes to
    fill the tub of money supply.
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    And repayments are like the
    plughole from which water
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    flows out regularly according to
    the schedule of repayments.
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    So the amount of money supply fills
    and empties like a bathtub...
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    ...but it fills in a way
    that has nothing to do
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    with our needs.
    Actually we need money to trade.
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    Image is a bit old but it is like blood
    in the body that enables to trade.
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    Blood circulates in our body,
    it takes particles
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    somewhere and bring them somewhere else.
  • 29:27 - 29:30
    Too much blood is bad,
    to little is bad as well.
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    It is important to have
    the right amount of blood
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    as it is important to have
    the right amount of money.
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    In optimistic periods,
    when we trust in the future,
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    we, humans tend to borrow much.
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    In the same time,
    bankers tend to lend much.
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    This leads to the creation of
    much money. money supply inflates
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    and it leads people to take
    more and more risks than they should.
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    I am simplifying. On the contrary,
    and this is what I worry about,
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    there is the reversed situation.
    People's mood switches from
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    optimism to pessimism,
    like during the real estate crisis.
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    And the market is under the "sheep"
    effect, all agents behave the same way.
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    When everything is fine,
    the market is optimistic,
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    and when it starts to turn, the actors
    start to depress all together,
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    they stop borrowing,
    bank stop lending...
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    whereas people keep on paying off.
    The bathtub keeps on
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    emptying according to the schedule
    of repayments while
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    it stops filling and thus you have
    less and less money...
  • 30:58 - 31:01
    and more unemployment.
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    The strict connection between
    money and unemployment is hard to draw
  • 31:08 - 31:15
    but this argument has been held
    by many theorists for a long time.
  • 31:15 - 31:18
    And...
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    the most famous is Keynes.
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    I think it is not stupid to correlate
    the amount of money with unemployment.
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    I am led to think so
    because of some
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    experiments with alternative form
    of currency.
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    In many cases of alternative currency
    in history, I observe that...
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    First of all,
    you need a serious crisis to create
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    a new currency:
    when unemployment rate is very high,
  • 31:59 - 32:03
    when craftsmen and storekeeper
    can not work...
  • 32:03 - 32:08
    In such situations districts take
    locally control of the money
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    and start to pay civil servants
    with money they create themselves.
  • 32:14 - 32:21
    Money is something highly conventional.
    You just need trust to make it work.
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    And in any experiment I know,
    it takes only a
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    couple of weeks to make
    unemployment disappear.
  • 32:28 - 32:32
    Activity starts again when
    you bring money to it.
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    I mean that there is a relation
    between unemployment and
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    the introduction of new money when
    there is not enough.
  • 32:43 - 32:47
    But you have to pay attention
    not to create too much money,
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    else its value might collapse
    and then you might face
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    other kind of disasters.
    But if you create money moderately...
  • 32:54 - 32:58
    you have a solution to unemployment.
  • 32:58 - 33:03
    But if you give the money you create
    to rich people like today,
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    to people who do not spend it and
    accumulate (like a sickness)
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    then you will not solve your
    problem of employment.
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    You need to give money to those
    who spend it.
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    Jean-Marcel Jeanneney, a minister of
    de Gaulle wrote a book called
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    "Ecoute la France qui gronde".
    It is out of print, hard to find,
  • 33:30 - 33:36
    maybe as a second-hand but I published
    the best parts of it on my website.
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    First, this guy explains that creating
    too much money generates hyperinflation:
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    money loses its value and it is a
    disaster for everybody.
  • 33:46 - 33:52
    He reminds of Assignats during the
    french revolution,
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    the John Law's system,
    the german hyperinflation in the 1920s.
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    He knows that. However he suggests that
    the state should create paper money,
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    not money for private banks, nothing
    you need to pay off but banknotes.
  • 34:13 - 34:23
    And then, without going through banks,
    distribute FF3,000 to any individual,
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    kids, elder, men, women and observe
    empirically what happens.
  • 34:32 - 34:34
    Does it create inflation ?
  • 34:34 - 34:36
    If not, then we do it again
    6 months later.
  • 34:36 - 34:38
    Else we stop for a time.
  • 34:38 - 34:44
    He proposed to distribute money to
    people. But the original aspect lies
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    in that money is given to people
    who spend it. This changes everything.
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    Currently we create billions that we
    give to people who do not spend it.
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    They possibly lend it but with
    expensive interests.
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    About money creation I omitted
    a point that should be mentioned.
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    Until 1973 in France,
    and 1913 in the U.S.
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    the state was allowed to create money
    like private banks.
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    Banks could create money like I said
    but state could also
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    create the money he needed for itself
    and its investments.
  • 35:39 - 35:45
    For that it just needed to borrow
    from its central bank.
  • 35:45 - 35:50
    And as central bank belongs
    to the state, and
  • 35:50 - 35:54
    we are the state, the loan was
    without interest.
  • 35:55 - 36:01
    When the state paid off,
    it did not pay interest.
  • 36:04 - 36:12
    But eventually France, U.S. and Europe
    were victim of a monetary coup d'état.
  • 36:12 - 36:17
    The monetary creation was left
    to private banks exclusively
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    so that states cannot borrow
    from their central banks anymore.
  • 36:23 - 36:26
    In other words, oblige the states
    to borrow
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    from private banks
    for their investements
  • 36:30 - 36:34
    and oblige them to pay interests.
  • 36:34 - 36:41
    And in any country where it happened,
    public debt appeared.
  • 36:42 - 36:48
    Public debt was successfully used
    to enslave Third World countries,
  • 36:48 - 36:53
    to steal their raw materials
    and resources.
  • 36:53 - 36:57
    This happens now to developed countries.
  • 36:57 - 37:02
    Progressively, the state
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    is forbidden to create its money
  • 37:06 - 37:09
    and is forced to borrow
  • 37:09 - 37:13
    on the stock market, that is
    from rich people.
  • 37:15 - 37:23
    This way, the elected representatives
    enslaved the state, made it dependant.
  • 37:23 - 37:31
    This happens clearly in Europe today.
    Greece, Portugal, Ireland
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    are beeing strangled
    by the debt system and there is
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    most likely no way around it
    for the other countries.
  • 37:38 - 37:42
    [It is interesting to say that
    in 1973 this was decided
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    by Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing.
    And who was Pompidou ?]
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    Pompidou was the manager of the
    Rothschild bank.
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    [As an example of what became
    world politics, when Gaddafi
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    came to Paris, he pitched his tent
    in the garden of the
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    Rothschild family.
    Just another interesting relation.]
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    I didn't know that.
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    Anyway. We actually often call
    this 1973 law, the Rothschild's law
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    because it incredibly served
    the interests of banks.
  • 38:19 - 38:25
    And we are the ressources of the
    states. The work of millions of people
  • 38:25 - 38:31
    is thus for a large part dedicated
    to pay the debt service,
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    to pay the banks, the creditors
    of the state, on public spending.
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    Since the state is not allowed
    to borrow from
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    its central bank, it has to borrow
    from private banks.
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    So what happend in 1973
    is deeply against
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    general interest. It is a coup d'état.
  • 38:50 - 38:54
    And... the same thing happened
    the same way
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    in the U.S. in 1913 and with
    the same banks.
  • 38:58 - 39:01
    So...
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    I think that the most relevant
    book about this
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    period is
    "Secrets of the Federal Reserve".
  • 39:11 - 39:14
    I think that it is the best book
    to understand
  • 39:14 - 39:17
    the monetary swindle of that period.
  • 39:17 - 39:25
    It has existed for a long time but
    it was translated into french recently.
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    That's bomb.
    When you read that you get outraged.
  • 39:33 - 39:39
    It is easy to read, like a detective
    story. And it explains how...
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    [Eustace Mullins]
    Eustace Mullins: M-U-L-L-I-N-S.
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    It explains how a couple of bankers who
    were detested by the american people...
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    The americans just emerged from a
    dreadful crisis. They had been ruined,
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    they lost their savings and people
    hated banks and Wall Street.
  • 40:02 - 40:08
    [This was initiated by J.P. Morgan]
    Yes, but I cannot tell everything now.
  • 40:08 - 40:10
    But...
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    How a couple of bankers literally
    conspired: they hid on a private island
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    with a member of the Parliament
    to develop a project of central bank.
  • 40:25 - 40:30
    But a private central bank.
    A bank which looks like a
  • 40:30 - 40:35
    public bank but is not,
    which is called "Federal Reserve"
  • 40:35 - 40:40
    and which is neither federal
    nor american nor is a reserve.
  • 40:43 - 40:49
    They wanted this project to be voted by
    the congress. It failed the first time,
  • 40:49 - 40:55
    then they tried again in 1913...
    The plot of Jekyll island was in 1910.
  • 40:55 - 41:01
    All this looks like a detective story.
  • 41:01 - 41:08
    The servants were given vacation.
    They had hired new foreign servants
  • 41:08 - 41:15
    just for this meeting, just for one week
    so that nobody could recognise them.
  • 41:17 - 41:21
    Mullins' work is really interesting.
    He pieced this
  • 41:21 - 41:24
    puzzle together:
    he relied on thousands of old
  • 41:24 - 41:28
    articles... even on books written
    by the conspirators.
  • 41:28 - 41:32
    After the system were installed, some of
    them started to talk as they got older.
  • 41:32 - 41:35
    He managed to complete the puzzle.
    He did a huge
  • 41:35 - 41:39
    research work, very complicated and
    very interesting.
  • 41:39 - 41:43
    And we discover the same procedure,
    the same rules,
  • 41:43 - 41:47
    the same outrageous rights given
    to the central bank
  • 41:47 - 41:51
    compared to states in the current
    european system.
  • 41:56 - 42:02
    This book describe also the way
    this project has been voted.
  • 42:02 - 42:07
    These bankers financed the campaign
    of the three
  • 42:07 - 42:12
    candidates... The two main candidates
    who could win
  • 42:12 - 42:17
    the election had both a project
    of federal bank.
  • 42:17 - 42:21
    they were described as contradictory
    whereas
  • 42:21 - 42:25
    they were alike, they led to
    the same thing.
  • 42:25 - 42:32
    Finally, Woodrow Wilson was elected
    in 1913. The first thing he did was to
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    vote this project of federal reserve
    in a quick and dirty way, in december.
  • 42:42 - 42:48
    He did it against public opinion and
    against general interest. Since then...
  • 42:48 - 42:54
    I think it is relevant to describe
    America as an occupied territory.
  • 42:54 - 42:58
    These people have had their money
    stolen and thus have been
  • 42:58 - 43:03
    enslaved by some privileged guys
    with power beyond imagination.
  • 43:03 - 43:08
    You have to realize that by taking over
    the dollar, they took over the world.
  • 43:08 - 43:13
    Eustace Mullins did a major
    investigative work to expose the owners
  • 43:13 - 43:18
    of banks. There are shares and control
    shares which are more important...
  • 43:18 - 43:24
    Nowadays this secret is kept as well
    as the nuclear launch code.
  • 43:24 - 43:30
    Today it is almost impossible to know
    who controls banks.
  • 43:30 - 43:35
    Back then the information was
    still available and the trail of
  • 43:35 - 43:41
    the ownership of the Federal Reserve
    led to the City in London.
  • 43:41 - 43:45
    That's the last straw !
    Can you imagine how harsh it is
  • 43:45 - 43:49
    for american people ?
    And it led mainly to Rothschild.
  • 43:53 - 43:57
    This deserve to be discussed in public.
  • 43:57 - 44:02
    Mullins might be wrong on some points,
    we have to check.
  • 44:02 - 44:05
    The problem is that we cannot
    discuss that
  • 44:05 - 44:08
    without being called a fascist
    or an antisemite.
  • 44:08 - 44:15
    It seems that antisemitism was made up
    to protect Rothschild. When we talk
  • 44:15 - 44:21
    about him we are immediately called an
    antisemite, a fascist... Hitler soon.
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    Well I don't think I have much
    in common with Hitler and fascists.
  • 44:31 - 44:38
    So, among alternative solutions,
    there is "Freigeld" (free money).
  • 44:38 - 44:45
    "Freigeld" is a concept proposed by
    Silvio Gesell. He was a famous
  • 44:45 - 44:51
    and appreciated economist who
    proposed something interesting.
  • 44:51 - 44:58
    Keynes considered Gesell's concept
    with respect.
  • 44:58 - 45:02
    Gesell tried to prevent people
    from accumulating money.
  • 45:02 - 45:05
    Indeed, other people need
    unused money to circulate.
  • 45:05 - 45:11
    So, in order to dissuade people
    to keep unused money with them
  • 45:11 - 45:17
    he proposed that money might
    lose its value each month. For that,
  • 45:17 - 45:23
    stamps had to be purchased and
    attached to the money to keep it valid.
  • 45:23 - 45:29
    Indeed, this encourages people to
    get rid of it since it loses its value.
  • 45:29 - 45:33
    But if you think about it,
    Keynes' solution
  • 45:33 - 45:37
    involving a bit of inflation
    is equivalent.
  • 45:37 - 45:42
    Inflation makes your banknotes
    lose their value progressively.
  • 45:42 - 45:47
    "Freigeld" and inflation
    are very similar.
  • 45:47 - 45:51
    Not exactly identical though.
    Anyway, it was
  • 45:51 - 45:55
    Keynes' solution to
    "Euthanize the rentiers".
  • 45:55 - 45:57
    That is a rentier...
  • 45:59 - 46:07
    Inflation reduce the gold pile
    of a rentier. Workers, however...
  • 46:09 - 46:12
    About protecting people
    against inflation...
  • 46:12 - 46:15
    I am a bit lost with my books but...
  • 46:15 - 46:21
    Concerning solutions to
    withstand inflation...
  • 46:21 - 46:26
    Maurice Allais was not in favor of
    inflation, but explained that a little,
  • 46:26 - 46:31
    2% was necessary - due to landed
    property, I will not explain that.
  • 46:31 - 46:38
    So, these 2% that Allais suggested
    to maintain, were compensated
  • 46:38 - 46:45
    by a general indexation system
    like France knew after 1945.
  • 46:45 - 46:48
    During 30 years in France,
    people's income were
  • 46:48 - 46:51
    indexed to inflation with the
    sliding wage scale.
  • 46:51 - 46:56
    Wages were indexed, loans were indexed,
    rents were indexed and thus,
  • 46:56 - 47:01
    for the workers and the little people,
    inflation was painless.
  • 47:01 - 47:05
    Only the wealth of people
    keeping banknotes decreased.
  • 47:07 - 47:11
    Actually, speculators often managed
    to earn more than inflation.
  • 47:11 - 47:15
    Only the wealth of people keeping
    piles of banknotes decreased.
  • 47:15 - 47:18
    And more people than you think
    keep banknotes.
  • 47:18 - 47:20
    For those people...
  • 47:22 - 47:25
    money melt away.
  • 47:25 - 47:34
    So "Freigeld" is a solution to prevent
    people from accumulating too much money.
  • 47:34 - 47:39
    Concerning the maleficence that happend
    in -73 when the state
  • 47:39 - 47:44
    abandoned monetary creation,
    I see as consequences...
  • 47:46 - 47:48
    a ruined state.
  • 47:50 - 47:55
    You have to understand that
    rich people have much to fear
  • 47:55 - 48:00
    from a strong state that
    they could not control.
  • 48:00 - 48:05
    So the strategy applied by
    so called "liberals"
  • 48:05 - 48:10
    all around the world aims
    to destroy the states.
  • 48:10 - 48:15
    And an efficient way to do that
    is to ruin it.
  • 48:15 - 48:19
    Ruin by depriving it of resources
    and Galbraith emphasizes
  • 48:19 - 48:24
    that great crisis are preceded
    by cuts in rich people's taxes.
  • 48:24 - 48:26
    It is the sign of a crisis.
  • 48:26 - 48:30
    When taxes of rich people
    start to decrease strongly,
  • 48:30 - 48:34
    this means that we are getting
    close to a crisis.
  • 48:34 - 48:37
    I think that Galbraihs is right.
    Since recently, you can see
  • 48:37 - 48:41
    that often, rich people pay
    almost no taxes anymore.
  • 48:41 - 48:44
    And when rich people do not pay taxes,
    the amount
  • 48:44 - 48:48
    of money that state lacks is a
    bottomless pit.
  • 48:48 - 48:53
    So first, the state is ruined
    by depriving it of its resources.
  • 48:55 - 48:58
    Second, by getting it into debt,
    state is
  • 48:58 - 49:02
    burdened with the interests of the loan.
  • 49:02 - 49:04
    It is burdened with additional expenses.
  • 49:06 - 49:09
    You have to realize that the
    interests of the debt,
  • 49:09 - 49:13
    not the refund, just the interests,
    cost France...
  • 49:14 - 49:21
    It costs us 45, 50 billions euros
    a year.
  • 49:21 - 49:27
    It is considerable !
    50 billions just for a debt,
  • 49:27 - 49:32
    it is just the interests,
    I insist, an unnecessary debt.
  • 49:32 - 49:37
    A debt that is not necessary.
    If the state...
  • 49:37 - 49:44
    had kept the right to create money
    for itself...
  • 49:44 - 49:47
    If it was allowed to borrow
    from its central bank,
  • 49:47 - 49:50
    that is to create money it needs...
  • 49:50 - 49:52
    it would not pay interests.
  • 49:52 - 49:57
    Besides, the amount of deficits...
  • 49:57 - 50:01
    André-Jacques Holbecq wrote
    a short book, very simple...
  • 50:03 - 50:08
    This short book: "La dette publique,
    une affaire rentable"
  • 50:08 - 50:12
    and this other one: "Argent, dettes
    et banques"...
  • 50:12 - 50:16
    Two good short books by
    André-Jacques Holbecq
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    that explain well and
    enable to understand.
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    He did quite a hard work because
    statistics were not
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    available anymore, so he had to
    go hunting for them.
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    Since 1973, public spending
    did not grow. It did not grow.
  • 50:37 - 50:41
    In proportion, it is roughly unchanging.
    So how come we are
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    more and more in debt ?
    Well look, it is the debt service.
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    At the beginning in -73, debt was little,
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    so debt service was little
    and thus the deficit was shallow.
  • 50:51 - 50:56
    And then, year after year,
    deficit is roughly equal to...
  • 50:56 - 51:01
    not exactly, but it is very close,
    the deficit
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    of the french state correspond
    to debt service.
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    By reducing resources of the state,
    by increasing its expenses
  • 51:10 - 51:14
    and year after year...
    you have to realize that since -73,
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    members of the Parliament decided
    not to balance this growing deficit.
  • 51:18 - 51:23
    They could balance it by reducing
    spendings or increasing taxes.
  • 51:23 - 51:25
    They did not. They left the debt grow.
  • 51:25 - 51:29
    Now we are told: "Parliament were lax"
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    or "they were weak"
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    or "they did it to be re-elected,
    to remain popular".
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    Possible, but I don't buy that.
  • 51:40 - 51:45
    I do not. It is possible...
  • 51:45 - 51:52
    I think that all this
    fits together too well...
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    This decision, year after year
    to let the debt grow so that
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    the state is progressively
    enslaved by those who lend money.
  • 52:01 - 52:05
    And eventually, the state will
    depend on these people. All this
  • 52:05 - 52:10
    matches so perfectly the interests
    of those who finance election...
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    that I can hardly believe that
    it is a coincidence.
  • 52:14 - 52:19
    I know, it is conspiracist, paranoid...
  • 52:20 - 52:25
    Nevertheless, since -73, members of the
    Parliament, the so-called "left-wing"
  • 52:25 - 52:30
    like the so-called "right-wing",
    all of them let the debt grow.
  • 52:31 - 52:36
    I find it too easy to forgive them
    pretending that
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    "they were weak, they wanted
    to be re-elected".
  • 52:40 - 52:44
    For me all this looks like
    an attempt to bring
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    the state to heel.
    To bring the state to heel.
  • 52:47 - 52:55
    This is consistent with the destruction
    of nations by the European Union.
  • 52:55 - 53:01
    This is along the same lines.
    The European Union construction takes
  • 53:01 - 53:07
    part in the destruction of the nations.
    The state that our revolutionary
  • 53:07 - 53:13
    fathers built in 1789 to get rid
    of the old aristocratic system.
  • 53:13 - 53:16
    And we are beeing stolen that...
  • 53:18 - 53:22
    by those who were the privileged of this
    system. This is a counter-revolution.
  • 53:22 - 53:27
    A lot of people write books called
    "counter-revolution".
  • 53:27 - 53:31
    We are witnessing a counter-revolution.
  • 53:31 - 53:36
    The privileged are erasing...
  • 53:38 - 53:41
    what we gained in 1789.
  • 53:45 - 53:45
    Well...
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    I am reaching the end of my talk about
    money, and I kept the best for the end.
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    Creating money aims to finance economy.
  • 54:06 - 54:09
    No matter whether state is allowed
    to create money or
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    how much is created, our goal is
    to finance economy.
  • 54:13 - 54:20
    For many years, for centuries, this
    task was entrusted to the stock market.
  • 54:20 - 54:27
    To public companies and to the stock
    market. Those who have too much money...
  • 54:27 - 54:31
    come to the stock market
    to make it available.
  • 54:31 - 54:35
    And those who need it to
    start a business, come to borrow it.
  • 54:39 - 54:44
    I think that stock markets
    are justified in case money is rare.
  • 54:44 - 54:49
    And it is created by some
    privileged people who keep it rare.
  • 54:50 - 54:54
    But if we consider, that money
    should not be rare,
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    if we consider this as a society,
    we could then design
  • 54:58 - 55:01
    a system where we would take back
    the control of the money.
  • 55:01 - 55:06
    And we would create... not too much
    money because we do not want to
  • 55:06 - 55:11
    live through those bad experiences where
    everything collapsed because of it.
  • 55:11 - 55:16
    People were ruined and the situation
    was worse than before.
  • 55:16 - 55:18
    Without creating too much...
  • 55:18 - 55:22
    I guess that we could create
    more money than today and also
  • 55:22 - 55:26
    dispatch it to other targets
    than what private banks do.
  • 55:26 - 55:29
    But if we manage to take back
    public control of
  • 55:29 - 55:33
    monetary creation, we do not need
    the stock market anymore.
  • 55:35 - 55:40
    We need neither the stock market,
    nor savings, nor rich people's money.
  • 55:41 - 55:45
    So let us grant the control
    of the monetary creation...
  • 55:45 - 55:48
    not to politicians...
  • 55:48 - 55:53
    I will come back to that later, but to
    public power, to citizens. This could be
  • 55:53 - 55:58
    an assembly, possibly randomly selected
    that decide how much money to create.
  • 55:58 - 56:00
    We shall discuss that
    because it might be
  • 56:00 - 56:02
    too technical for
    randomly selected people.
  • 56:02 - 56:06
    Anyway, some public power instance,
    an incarnation of
  • 56:06 - 56:10
    what we, the people are,
    could decide how much money we need.
  • 56:11 - 56:15
    This may be a way to finance economy
    instead of private banks.
  • 56:15 - 56:20
    There is another way I wanted to talk
    about, a wonderful work, very exciting.
  • 56:23 - 56:28
    This were brought to me by
    Franck Lepage. Franck Lepage is
  • 56:28 - 56:32
    an exciting campaigner, you should
    get to know him if you do not.
  • 56:33 - 56:37
    You can type his name into Google,
    you will find his
  • 56:37 - 56:40
    "gesticulated conferences" where
    Frank tells important things.
  • 56:40 - 56:44
    I cannot tell much for
    it is not related to money:
  • 56:44 - 56:48
    his main topic is about a
    popular education. It concerns
  • 56:48 - 56:52
    culture as political education
    of young adults to avoid wars.
  • 56:53 - 56:58
    Culture is reduced to art,
    which is a disaster.
  • 56:58 - 57:02
    Culture should include education
    of young adults on ethics.
  • 57:02 - 57:07
    For example Orwell's Common Decency,
    a kind of generosity...
  • 57:09 - 57:19
    altruism that can be developed
    and taught with a dedicated education.
  • 57:19 - 57:25
    So, Frank's work is about popular
    education: the scuttling of the culture
  • 57:25 - 57:31
    reduced to art and without political
    aspect. It is an essential work but...
  • 57:31 - 57:35
    we may talk about that later
    together with random
  • 57:35 - 57:38
    selection which is also a tool
    for popular education.
  • 57:39 - 57:43
    Frank introduced me to
    Bernard Friot's work.
  • 57:44 - 57:51
    I cannot talk in detail about
    Friot's work.
  • 57:52 - 57:57
    I encourage you to watch Friot's
    conferences, each of them is
  • 57:57 - 58:02
    2 hours long. I saw 4 or 5 myself,
    I met him, I expect to do it again.
  • 58:02 - 58:07
    The work of this man is essential...
    and revolutionary.
  • 58:07 - 58:14
    Before reading the book you should
    watch several videos because he...
  • 58:14 - 58:19
    he improvises in his videos and
    they are never the same,
  • 58:19 - 58:23
    there is always something new and
    they are rich.
  • 58:24 - 58:30
    One has to master his own vocabulary
    about job, wage, contribution.
  • 58:30 - 58:36
    He gives his definition of "job",
    his definition of "work" which is...
  • 58:36 - 58:39
    very useful. I shall summarize
    so that you
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    understand how it articulates
    with my talk.
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    I am trying to finance economy
    without rich people's savings.
  • 58:48 - 58:53
    I would like we, the many non-rich
    people, to have a normal economic
  • 58:53 - 58:59
    activity, to live a decent life
    without requiring rich people's money.
  • 58:59 - 59:03
    without requiring capital,
    without capitalism.
  • 59:03 - 59:07
    Without the money accumulated by...
  • 59:08 - 59:10
    those who have money.
  • 59:10 - 59:14
    Taking back money creation
    is a first idea. And Friot's idea...
  • 59:16 - 59:20
    That's another bomb. Friot says:
  • 59:22 - 59:27
    There is something in our
    current real life,
  • 59:27 - 59:31
    this is no utopia, this is no dream.
  • 59:31 - 59:37
    In our real life,
    there is an anticapitalist financing
  • 59:37 - 59:43
    system that works very well,
    namely our pension system.
  • 59:43 - 59:49
    In what way is it a major
    solution that demonstrate that
  • 59:49 - 59:54
    we are able to finance something
    without saving money first ?
  • 59:54 - 60:03
    Well look how our grandparents designed
    the pension system after the war.
  • 60:04 - 60:07
    It is easy, very easy.
  • 60:07 - 60:13
    We do not know what will happen
    in 20 years, but next year we know
  • 60:13 - 60:18
    how many people are going to work
    and how many will be retired.
  • 60:18 - 60:23
    We apply the rule of three and
    thus we know the proportion of
  • 60:23 - 60:27
    the wages that must be deducted
    to pay the pension next year.
  • 60:28 - 60:33
    Each year we decide the part
    of the wages that must be
  • 60:33 - 60:38
    taken to pay the pension next year.
    It is unsinkable.
  • 60:38 - 60:43
    Of course, for the baby boomer's
    pension you must raise
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    the contribution rate, like today.
    By the way, this rate
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    has kept growing since the end
    of the 2nd world war.
  • 60:53 - 60:58
    The rate rises a bit each year.
    This happens in a period of growth,
  • 60:58 - 61:03
    when wealth rises even more quickly.
    Each time, we create
  • 61:03 - 61:08
    much more wealth and we take
    a bit more of this new wealth
  • 61:08 - 61:13
    for pensions. It is painless and
    the system is unsinkable.
  • 61:13 - 61:17
    Except if you scuttle it voluntarily.
  • 61:17 - 61:23
    When business leaders gained to
    freeze the employer contributions...
  • 61:23 - 61:28
    when they stopped to increase...
    to adjust the part taken on
  • 61:28 - 61:32
    wages for pensions, they scuttled it.
    And then pretended that
  • 61:32 - 61:37
    the system was not viable.
    But they unbalanced it voluntarily.
  • 61:37 - 61:42
    This is sheer sabotage !
    The system was designed
  • 61:42 - 61:47
    to be self-balanced,
    without the slightest deficit.
  • 61:48 - 61:52
    And it worked very well
    with huge amounts.
  • 61:53 - 61:58
    Pensions are 230 billions a year.
  • 62:00 - 62:04
    And state is not needed.
    These are social funds betwen us.
  • 62:04 - 62:07
    No state needed, no saving needed,
    no loan needed,
  • 62:07 - 62:09
    and there is no interest to pay.
  • 62:12 - 62:16
    These are important commitments,
    230 billions
  • 62:16 - 62:21
    over 30, 40, 50 years.
    And it works very well.
  • 62:22 - 62:27
    Already 45% of the global salary
    is paid by funds.
  • 62:27 - 62:31
    Not only retirement but also health,
    unemployment... any social insurance.
  • 62:31 - 62:36
    Almost half of our income
    is already paid
  • 62:36 - 62:41
    by firms to funds and then
    by funds to us.
  • 62:41 - 62:45
    It is already happening,
    and there is no need to borrow.
  • 62:45 - 62:49
    No need to pay interests.
    No starting capital or savings needed.
  • 62:49 - 62:57
    Friot says: this system has existed
    since the 2nd world war.
  • 62:57 - 63:01
    It has worked perfectly since then.
    It should be
  • 63:01 - 63:06
    applied to every professional
    categories, to everyone.
  • 63:06 - 63:09
    And above all, since it works
    for pensions...
  • 63:11 - 63:14
    then let us do the same for salaries.
  • 63:16 - 63:20
    A firm would not pay its
    employee directly. It would
  • 63:20 - 63:23
    pay a fund that would pay him.
    It would be shared.
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    One may doubt it would work,
    but it is already
  • 63:27 - 63:30
    working for pensions,
    why not for salaries ?
  • 63:30 - 63:31
    And for investment.
  • 63:32 - 63:35
    Instead of entrusting the stock market
    that does not finance economy anymore.
  • 63:35 - 63:40
    You know that all together
    the stock market deplete wealth.
  • 63:40 - 63:45
    Each year, if you compare
    what the market takes from economy
  • 63:45 - 63:51
    and what it gives to businesses,
    it deplete wealth.
  • 63:51 - 63:54
    It is useless. For a long time,
    the market has not financed economy.
  • 63:54 - 63:58
    I discovered Friot's idea
    a couple of months ago.
  • 63:58 - 64:02
    It should be explored but
    it is very appealing.
  • 64:02 - 64:04
    Friot's idea is:
  • 64:06 - 64:10
    "Let us follow...
  • 64:12 - 64:17
    the successful example of pensions
    for 60 years.
  • 64:17 - 64:22
    Let us extend this system to other
    problematic topics", like investment.
  • 64:22 - 64:29
    The part of GDP that goes
    to investment is catastrophic.
  • 64:29 - 64:33
    We are far from the 25% of the GDP
    we need.
  • 64:33 - 64:39
    But if firms were asked
    a contribution in investment,
  • 64:39 - 64:45
    if firms that need to invest were able
    to get money from an investment fund,
  • 64:45 - 64:51
    we would have 25% for investment instead
    of relying on a useless stock market.
  • 64:51 - 64:56
    I think that none of these reform is
    possible in the context of election.
  • 64:56 - 65:00
    Because elected representative,
    for a large part...
  • 65:00 - 65:03
    a part that is hidden...
  • 65:03 - 65:08
    are answerable to their sponsors.
  • 65:08 - 65:13
    And if those sponsors are rich people...
  • 65:13 - 65:17
    the richest are not storekeepers,
    they are banks.
  • 65:19 - 65:21
    So it would be an illusion
    to believe that
  • 65:21 - 65:24
    representative would change
    anything about banks.
  • 65:25 - 65:30
    It would be equivalent to a suicide.
  • 65:30 - 65:36
    So what I am about to tell about
    sortition in place of election
  • 65:36 - 65:41
    is the political complement
    to this work on financing.
  • 65:43 - 65:46
    I would be glad to hear
    your opinions about financing systems
  • 65:46 - 65:48
    because I am still doing
    research on that.
  • 65:48 - 65:52
    There might be things that
    I have not fully understood,
  • 65:52 - 65:57
    or that I missed.
    I am still seeking...
  • 65:58 - 66:00
    new material.
  • 66:00 - 66:06
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