Freedom in the Cloud
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0:00 - 0:02Thank you
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0:02 - 0:04It’s a pleasure to be here.
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0:05 - 0:07I would love to think that
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0:07 - 0:10the reason that we’re all here on a Friday night
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0:10 - 0:12is because my speeches are so good.
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0:12 - 0:13I actually have no idea
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0:13 - 0:15why we’re all here on a Friday night
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0:15 - 0:18but I’m very grateful for the invitation.
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0:18 - 0:21I am the person who had no date tonight
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0:21 - 0:24so it was particularly convenient
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0:24 - 0:27that I was invited for now.
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0:30 - 0:31So,
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0:32 - 0:35of course, I didn’t have any date tonight.
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0:35 - 0:36Everybody knows that.
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0:36 - 0:39My calendar’s on the web, right?.
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0:40 - 0:43The problem is that problem.
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0:45 - 0:48Our calendar is on the web.
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0:48 - 0:51Our location is on the web.
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0:51 - 0:53You have a cell phone
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0:53 - 0:56and you have a cell phone network provider
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0:56 - 1:00and if your cell phone network provider is Sprint
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1:00 - 1:03then we can tell you that several million times last year,
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1:03 - 1:08somebody who has a law enforcement ID card in his pocket somewhere
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1:08 - 1:11went to the Sprint website
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1:11 - 1:16and asked for the realtime location of somebody with a telephone number and was given it.
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1:16 - 1:19Several million times.
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1:19 - 1:20Just like that.
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1:20 - 1:22We know that because Sprint admits
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1:22 - 1:24that they have a website
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1:24 - 1:25where anybody with a law enforcement ID
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1:25 - 1:28can go and find the realtime location of anybody
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1:28 - 1:30with a Sprint cellphone.
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1:30 - 1:32We don’t know that about ATT and Verizon
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1:32 - 1:35because they haven’t told us.
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1:35 - 1:37But that’s the only reason we don’t know
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1:37 - 1:39because they haven’t told us.
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1:39 - 1:44That’s a service that you think of as a traditional service -
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1:44 - 1:45telephony.
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1:45 - 1:47But the deal that you get
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1:47 - 1:49with the traditional service called telephony
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1:49 - 1:52now includes a thing you didn’t know, like spying.
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1:52 - 1:54That’s not a service to you
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1:54 - 1:56but it’s a service
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1:56 - 1:58and you get it for free
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1:58 - 2:01with your service contract for telephony.
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2:02 - 2:08You get for free the service of advertising with your gmail
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2:08 - 2:10which means of cause there is another service behind
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2:10 - 2:17which is - untouched by human hands - semantic analysis of your email.
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2:17 - 2:20I still don't understand why anybody wants that.
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2:20 - 2:23I still don't understand why anybody uses it,
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2:23 - 2:25but people do,
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2:26 - 2:30including the very sophisticated and thoughtful people in this room
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2:30 - 2:33and you get free email service
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2:33 - 2:37and some storage, which is worth exactly a penny and a half
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2:37 - 2:39at the current price of storage
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2:39 - 2:42and you get spying all the time
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2:42 - 2:45and for free, too
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2:45 - 2:48and your calendar is on the web
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2:48 - 2:50and everybody can see whether you have a date Friday night,
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2:50 - 2:52and you have a status: Single... Looking
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2:52 - 2:57and you get a service for free: advertising, single looking and spying with it, for free.
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2:59 - 3:04And it all sort of just grew up that way, right, in a blink of an eye, and here we are.
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3:04 - 3:11And what's that got to do with open source? Well in fact it doesn't have anything to do with open source,
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3:11 - 3:19but it has a whole lot to do with free software, yet another reason why Stallman was right, it's the freedom,
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3:19 - 3:21right?
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3:21 - 3:28So we need to backup a little bit to figure out where we actually are and how we actually got here,
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3:28 - 3:37and probably even more important whether we can get out and if so, how? And it isn't a pretty story. At all.
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3:37 - 3:44David's right, I can hardly begin by saying that we won given that spying comes free with everything now.
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3:44 - 3:50but we haven't lost, we've just, really, bamboozled ourselves.
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3:50 - 3:56And we're going to have to unbamboozle ourselves real quickly or we're going to bamboozle a lot of other innocent people
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3:56 - 4:00who didn't know that we were throwing away their privacy for them forever.
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4:00 - 4:08It begins, of course, with the Internet which is why it's really nice to be here talking to the Internet society,
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4:08 - 4:18a society dedicated to the health expansion and theoretical elaboration of a peer to peer network called the Internet.
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4:18 - 4:26Designed as a network of peers without any intrinsic need for hierarchical or structural control,
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4:26 - 4:34and assuming that every switch in the net is an independent freestanding entity whose volition is equivalent
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4:34 - 4:37to the volition to the human beings who own and control it.
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4:37 - 4:45That's the design of the net which, whether you're thinking of it as glued together with IPv4 or that wonderful
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4:45 - 4:54improvement IPv6 we will never use, apparently, it still assumes peer communications.
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4:54 - 5:04Of course it never really, really, really worked out that way. There was nothing in the technical design to prevent it.
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5:04 - 5:10Not at any rate in the technical design of the interconnection of nodes and their communication.
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5:10 - 5:21There was a software problem. It's a simple software problem and it has a simple two syllable name, it's name is Microsoft.
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5:23 - 5:32Conceptually there was a network which was designed as a system of peer nodes, but the
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5:32 - 5:42operating software which occupied the network in an increasingly --I'll use the word, they use it about us, why can't I use it back--
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5:42 - 5:47viral way, over the course of a decade and a half, the software which
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5:47 - 5:53came to occupt the network was built around a very clear idea that had nothing to do with peers,
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5:53 - 5:57it was called a server-client architecture.
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5:58 - 6:01And the idea that the network was a network of peers
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6:01 - 6:04was hard to perceive after a while,
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6:04 - 6:12particularly if you were, let us say, an ordinary human being that is not a computer engineer, scientist or researcher,
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6:12 - 6:14not a hacker, not a geek.
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6:14 - 6:17If you were an ordinary human being it was hard to perceive
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6:17 - 6:21that the underlying architecture of the net was meant to be peerage
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6:21 - 6:26because the operating system software with which you interacted
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6:26 - 6:34very strongly instantantiated the idea of the server and client architecture.
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6:34 - 6:38In fact, of course, if you think about it, it was even worse than that.
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6:38 - 6:45The thing called Windows, was a degenerate version of a thing called X Windows.
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6:45 - 6:50It too thought about the world in a server client architecture
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6:50 - 6:53but what we would now think about as backwards.
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6:53 - 6:57The server was the thing at the human beings end. Remember?
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6:57 - 7:00That was the basic X Windows conception of the world.
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7:00 - 7:06It served communications with human beings at the endpoints of the net
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7:06 - 7:14to processes located at arbitrary places near the center, in the middle, or at the edge of the net.
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7:14 - 7:21It was the great idea of Windows, in an odd way, to create a political archetype in the net
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7:21 - 7:24which reduced the human being to the client
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7:24 - 7:28and produced a big centralized computer
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7:28 - 7:36which we might have called a server, which now provided things to the human being
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7:36 - 7:38on take it or leave it terms.
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7:38 - 7:42They were of course quite take or leave it terms.
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7:42 - 7:49And unfortunately everybody took it, since they didn't know how to leave once they got in.
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7:49 - 7:54Now the net was made of servers in the center and clients at the edge.
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7:54 - 7:59Clients had rather little power, and servers had quite a lot.
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7:59 - 8:04As storage gets cheaper, as processing get cheaper,
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8:04 - 8:08and as complex services that scale
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8:08 - 8:12in ways that are hard to use small computers for,
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8:12 - 8:16or at any rate these aggregated collections of small computers for
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8:16 - 8:19the most important of which is search
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8:19 - 8:21As services began to populate that net
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8:21 - 8:24the hierarchical nature of the net came to see like
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8:24 - 8:27it was meant to be there.
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8:27 - 8:29The net was made of servers and clients,
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8:29 - 8:31and the clients were the guys at the edge
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8:31 - 8:33representing human beings,
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8:33 - 8:35and servers were things in the middle with lots of power
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8:35 - 8:37and lots of data.
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8:40 - 8:45Now, one more thing happened about that time,
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8:45 - 8:48It didn't happen in Microsoft Windows computers
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8:48 - 8:53although it happened in Microsoft Windows servers
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8:53 - 8:56and it happened more in sensible operating systems
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8:56 - 8:59like Unix and GNU/Linux and other ones --
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8:59 - 9:02namely, servers kept logs.
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9:02 - 9:03That's a got thing to do,
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9:03 - 9:04computers ought to keep logs,
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9:04 - 9:06it's a very wise decision,
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9:06 - 9:08when making computer operating software
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9:08 - 9:10to keep logs.
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9:10 - 9:11It helps with debugging,
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9:11 - 9:14makes efficencies attainable,
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9:14 - 9:16makes it possible to study the actual operations
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9:16 - 9:18of computers in the real world,
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9:18 - 9:19it's a very good idea.
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9:19 - 9:22But if you have a system which centralizes servers
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9:22 - 9:26and the servers centralize their logs
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9:26 - 9:29then you are creating vast repositories
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9:29 - 9:31of hierarchically organized data
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9:31 - 9:34about people at the edges of the network
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9:34 - 9:36that they do not control
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9:36 - 9:39and unless they are experienced in the operation
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9:39 - 9:44of servers, will not understand the comprehensiveness of,
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9:44 - 9:47will not understand the meaningfullness of,
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9:47 - 9:51will not understand the aggregatability of
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9:51 - 9:55So we built a network out of the communications
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9:55 - 9:58architecture designed for peering,
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9:58 - 10:01which we defined in client-server style,
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10:01 - 10:06which we then defined to be the disempowered client
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10:06 - 10:09at the edge and the server in the middle.
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10:09 - 10:11We aggregated processing and storage
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10:11 - 10:13increasingly in the middle,
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10:13 - 10:17and we kept the logs that is information about the
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10:17 - 10:20flows of information in the net
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10:20 - 10:23in centralized places, far from the human beings
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10:23 - 10:26who controlled, or at any rate thought they controlled
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10:26 - 10:29the operation of the computers that increasingly
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10:29 - 10:32dominated their lives.
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10:32 - 10:35This was a recipe for disaster.
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10:35 - 10:39This was a recipe for disaster.
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10:40 - 10:44Now, I haven't mentioned yet the word "cloud",
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10:44 - 10:47which I was dealt on the top of the deck
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10:47 - 10:50when I recieved the news that I was talking here tonight
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10:50 - 10:53about privacy in the cloud.
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10:53 - 10:55I haven't mentioned the word cloud because
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10:55 - 10:59the word cloud doesn't really mean anything very much.
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10:59 - 11:02In other words, the disaster we are having
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11:02 - 11:04is not the catastrofe of the cloud.
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11:04 - 11:07The disaster we are having is the catastrofe of the way
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11:07 - 11:10we misunderstood the net under the assistance of the
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11:10 - 11:14un-free software that helped us to understand it.
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11:14 - 11:19What "cloud" means is that servers have ceased to be
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11:19 - 11:21made of iron.
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11:21 - 11:27Cloud means virtualization of servers has ocurred.
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11:27 - 11:31So, out here in the dusty edges of the galaxy where we live
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11:31 - 11:34in disempowered clienthood
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11:34 - 11:37nothing very much has changed.
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11:37 - 11:40As you walk inward towards the center of the galaxy
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11:40 - 11:42it gets more fuzzy than it used to.
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11:42 - 11:46We resolve now halo where we used to see actual stars,
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11:46 - 11:49you know, servers with switched and buttons you can
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11:49 - 11:52push and such.
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11:52 - 11:54Instead, what has happened of course is that
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11:54 - 11:56iron no longer represents a single server,
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11:56 - 12:01iron is mearly a place where servers could be.
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12:01 - 12:04And so cloud means servers have gained freedom.
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12:04 - 12:08Freedom to move, freedom to dance,
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12:08 - 12:11freedom to combine and separate and reaggregate
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12:11 - 12:12and do all kinds of tricks.
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12:12 - 12:15Servers have gained freedom, clients have gained nothing.
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12:15 - 12:18Welcome to the cloud.
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12:21 - 12:26It's a minor modification of the recipe for disaster.
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12:26 - 12:30It improves the operability of systems that control
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12:30 - 12:35the clients out there who were meant to be peers in a net
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12:35 - 12:37made of equal things.
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12:40 - 12:44So that's the architecture of the catastrofe.
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12:44 - 12:46If you think about it, each step in that architectural
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12:46 - 12:50evolution away from a network made of peers
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12:50 - 12:55to servers that serve the communication with human beings
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12:55 - 12:59to clients which are programs running on heavy iron,
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12:59 - 13:03to clients which are the computers that people actually use
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13:03 - 13:06in a fairly disempowered state and servers are high
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13:06 - 13:08concentration of powers in the net,
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13:08 - 13:14to servers are virtual processes running in clouds of iron
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13:14 - 13:17at the center of an increasingly hot galaxy
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13:17 - 13:21and the clients are out there in the dusty spiral arms.
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13:21 - 13:24All of those decisions architecturally were made without
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13:24 - 13:28any discussion of the social consequences long term.
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13:28 - 13:31Part of our general difficulty in talking about the social
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13:31 - 13:34consequences of technology during the great
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13:34 - 13:38period of invention of the Internet,
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13:38 - 13:41done by computer scientists who weren't terribly
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13:41 - 13:44interested in sociology, social psychology or,
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13:44 - 13:48with a few shining exceptions, freedom.
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13:48 - 13:53So we got an architecture which was very subject to misuse.
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13:53 - 13:57Indeed, it was in a way begging to be misused.
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13:57 - 14:01And now we are getting the misuse that we setup.
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14:02 - 14:06Because we have thinned the clients out
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14:06 - 14:09further and further and further.
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14:09 - 14:11In fact we made then mobile.
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14:11 - 14:13We put them in our pockets and we started
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14:13 - 14:15strolling around with them.
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14:19 - 14:26There are a lot of reasons for making clients disempowered,
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14:26 - 14:29and there are even more reasons for disempowering the
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14:29 - 14:33people who own the clients, and who might quaintly be
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14:33 - 14:36thought of as the people who ought to control them.
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14:36 - 14:39If you think for just a moment how many people have an
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14:39 - 14:43interest in disempowering the clients that are the mobile telephones,
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14:43 - 14:45you will see what I mean.
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14:45 - 14:48There are many overlapping rights owners,
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14:48 - 14:51as they think of themselves, each of whom has a stake in
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14:51 - 14:55disempowering a client at the edge of the network,
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14:55 - 14:58to prevent particular hardware from being moved
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14:58 - 15:02from one network to another, to prevent particular hardware
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15:02 - 15:05from playing music not bought at the great monopoly
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15:05 - 15:12of music in the sky, to disable competing video delivery
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15:12 - 15:16services in favor of new chips I founded myself that won't
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15:16 - 15:20run popular video standards, good or bad.
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15:20 - 15:24There are a lot of business models that are based around
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15:24 - 15:28mucking with the control over client hardware and software
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15:28 - 15:32at the edge to deprive the human being who has quaintly
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15:32 - 15:37thought that she purchased it, from actually occupying
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15:37 - 15:41the position that capitalism says owners are always in,
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15:41 - 15:44that is, of total control.
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15:45 - 15:49In fact, what we have, as I said a couple of years ago,
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15:49 - 15:52in between appearances here and another NYU function,
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15:52 - 15:55in fact what we have are things we call platforms.
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15:55 - 15:57The word platform, like the word cloud, doesn't
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15:57 - 16:00inherently mean anything, it's thrown around a lot
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16:00 - 16:03in business talk, but basically what platform means is
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16:03 - 16:08places you can't leave. Stuff you're stuck to.
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16:09 - 16:12Things that don't let you off, right?
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16:12 - 16:16That's platforms. And the net, once it became
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16:16 - 16:21a hierarchically architected zone, with servers in the center
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16:21 - 16:25and increasingly disempowered clients at the edge becomes
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16:25 - 16:32the zone of platforms. And platform-making becomes the order of the day.
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16:33 - 16:37Some years ago a very shrewd lawer who works in the industry
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16:37 - 16:43said to me: "Microsoft was never really a software company.
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16:43 - 16:47Microsoft was a platform management company."
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16:47 - 16:51And I thought, "yes, shot through the heart."
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16:52 - 16:56So we had a lot of platform managers in a hierarchically
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16:56 - 17:01organized network, and we began to evolve services.
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17:02 - 17:06Services is a complicated word, it's not meaningless by any means,
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17:06 - 17:11but it's very tricky to describe that we use it for a lot of different things.
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17:11 - 17:15We badly need an analytical taxonomy of services,
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17:15 - 17:19as my friend and collegue Phillip Begrine, in Paris,
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17:19 - 17:22pointed out some two years or three ago.
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17:23 - 17:27Taxonomies of services involve questions of simplicity,
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17:27 - 17:31complexity, scale and control.
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17:32 - 17:35To take an example, we might define a dichotomy between
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17:35 - 17:40complex and simple services, in which simple services
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17:40 - 17:43are things that any computer can perform for any other computer
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17:43 - 17:47if it wants to, and complex services are things you can't do
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17:47 - 17:50with a computer, you must do with clusters or stuctures
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17:50 - 17:56of some computational or administrative complexity.
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17:56 - 18:02Search is a complex service, indeed search is the archetypal
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18:02 - 18:04complex service.
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18:04 - 18:08Given the one way nature of links in the web,
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18:08 - 18:10and other elements of the data architecture
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18:10 - 18:14that we are now also living with --that's another talk another time--
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18:14 - 18:19search is not a thing that we can easily distribute.
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18:19 - 18:22The power in the maket of our friends at Google depends
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18:22 - 18:26entirely on the fact that search is not easily distributed.
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18:26 - 18:29It is a complex service that must be centrally organized
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18:29 - 18:32and centrally delivered. It must crawl the web
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18:32 - 18:35in a unilateral direction, link by link, figuring out where
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18:35 - 18:40everything is, in order to help you find it when you need it,
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18:40 - 18:44and in order to do that, at least so far, we have not evolved
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18:44 - 18:48good algorithmic and delivery structures for doing it
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18:48 - 18:50in a decentralized way.
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18:50 - 18:56So, search becomes a archetypal complex service,
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18:56 - 19:01and it draws unto itself a business model for its monetization.
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19:02 - 19:06Advertizing in the twentieth century was a random activity.
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19:06 - 19:09You threw things out and hoped they worked.
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19:09 - 19:11Advertizing in the twenty first century is an exquisitely
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19:11 - 19:16precise activity. You wait for a guy to want something
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19:16 - 19:19and them you send him advertisements about what he wants,
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19:19 - 19:22and bingo, it works like magic.
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19:23 - 19:26So, of course, on the underside of a complex service
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19:26 - 19:29called search, there is a theoretically simple service
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19:29 - 19:33called advertising, which, when unified to a complex
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19:33 - 19:37service increases its efficiency by orders of magnitude,
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19:37 - 19:40and the increase of the efficiency of the simple service,
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19:40 - 19:42when combined with the complex one,
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19:42 - 19:46produces an enormous surplus revenue flow
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19:46 - 19:50which can be used to strengthen search even more.
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19:51 - 19:55But that's the innocent part of the story,
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19:55 - 19:59and we don't remain in the innocent part of the story
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19:59 - 20:02for a variety of reasons. I won't be tedious and marxise
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20:02 - 20:06on a friday night and say because the bourgoisie is constantly
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20:06 - 20:10engaged in distructively reinventing and improving its own activities,
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20:10 - 20:14and I won't be moralistic on a friday night that you can't do that,
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20:14 - 20:19say, because, you know, sin is inirrevocable, is iniradicable
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20:19 - 20:23and human beings are fallen creatures, and greed is one of the sins
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20:23 - 20:25we cannot avoid commiting.
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20:25 - 20:29I will just say that, as a sort of ordinary social process
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20:29 - 20:34we don't stop at innocent, we go on, which surely is the thing
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20:34 - 20:36you should say on a friday night.
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20:38 - 20:40And so we went on.
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20:40 - 20:43Now, where we went on is really toward the discovery
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20:43 - 20:47that all of this would be even better is you had all the logs of everything.
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20:47 - 20:49Because once you have all the logs of everything
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20:49 - 20:56then every simple service is suddenly a gold mine waiting to happen
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20:56 - 20:59And we blew it because the architecture of the net put the logs
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20:59 - 21:03in the wrong place. They put the logs where innocents
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21:03 - 21:05would be tempted.
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21:05 - 21:08They put the logs where the fallen state of human beings
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21:08 - 21:12implies eventually bad trouble, and we got it.
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21:18 - 21:23The cloud means that we can't even point in the direction
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21:23 - 21:26of the server anymore.
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21:26 - 21:30And because we can't even point in the direction of the server anymore
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21:30 - 21:35we don't have extra-technical or non-technical means
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21:35 - 21:40of reliable control over this disaster in slow motion.
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21:40 - 21:47You can make a rule about logs or data flow, or preservation,
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21:47 - 21:53or control, or access, or disclosure, but your laws are human laws
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21:53 - 21:57and they occupy particular territory and the server's
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21:57 - 21:59in the cloud.
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22:00 - 22:03And that means the server is always one step ahead
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22:03 - 22:07of any rule you make, or two, or three, or six,
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22:07 - 22:10or poof, I just realized I'm subject to regulation,
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22:10 - 22:13I think I'll move to Oceana now.
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22:15 - 22:18Which means that, in effect, we lost the ability to
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22:18 - 22:22use either legal regulation or anything about the physical
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22:22 - 22:26architecture of the network to interfere with the process
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22:26 - 22:30of falling away from innocence that was now inevitable
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22:30 - 22:33in the stage I'm talking about, what we might call
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22:33 - 22:36late Google stage 1.
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22:41 - 22:45It is here, of course, that mister Zuckerberg enters.
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22:47 - 22:51The human race has, you know, susceptibility to harm
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22:53 - 22:59but, mister Zuckerberg has attained an unenviable record.
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23:00 - 23:07He has done more harm to the human race than anybody else his age.
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23:12 - 23:16Because he harnessed, you know, friday night, that is,
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23:16 - 23:20everybody needs to get laid, and he turned it into
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23:20 - 23:25a structure for degenerating the integrity of human personality.
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23:26 - 23:30And he has to a remarkable extent succeeded,
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23:30 - 23:36with a very poor deal, namely, I will give you free web hosting,
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23:36 - 23:43and some PHP doodads, and you get spying for free,
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23:43 - 23:51all the time. And it works. That's the sad part, it works.
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23:53 - 23:56How could that have happened?
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23:56 - 24:00There was no architectural reason, really, right?
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24:00 - 24:03There was no architecural reason, really.
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24:03 - 24:07Facebook is the web, with "I keep all the logs,
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24:07 - 24:10how do you feel about that?"
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24:12 - 24:16It's a terrarium for what it feels like to live in a panopticon
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24:16 - 24:16built out of web parts.
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24:16 - 24:18and it shouldn't be allowed. It comes to that, it shouldn't be allowed. That's a very poor way to deliver
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24:19 -those services. They are grossly overpriced at "spying all the time." They are not technically innovative.
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Not SyncedThey depend upon an architechture subject to misuse, and the business model that supports them is misused.
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Not SyncedThere isn't any other business model for them. It's bad. It's bad. I'm not suggesting that it should
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Not Syncedbe illegal. It should be obsolete. We're technologists. We should fix it. I'm glad you're with me so far,
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Not Syncedwhen I come to how we should fix it, I hope you'll still be with me
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Not Syncedbecause then we could get it done. But let's say for now, that that's a really good example of where
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Not Syncedwe went wrong and what happened to us because. It's trickier with Gmail, because of that magical "untouched
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Not SyncedThey say: "But nobody's reading my email. There's no human
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Not Syncedbeing ever touching it. That would freak me out. I would be creeped out if guys at
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Not SyncedGoogle were reading my email. But that's not happening, so I don't have a problem." Now this they cannot
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Not SyncedIndeed they know way too much about Facebook, if they've let themselves really know it. You have read the stuff
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Not Syncedcan see X obsessively checking the facebook page of Y.
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Not SyncedThere's some very nice research done a couple of years ago at MIT
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Not Syncedin a seminar I shouldn't name by students I'm not going to describe because they were a little
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Not Synceddenting to the Facebook terms of service in the course of their research, they were just scraping. But
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Not Syncedthe purpose of their scraping was to demonstrate that you could find
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Not Syncedcloseted homosexuals on Facebook. They don't say anything about their sexual orientation. Their friends.
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Not SyncedTheir friends are out. Their interests are the interests of their friends who are out. Their photographs
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Not Syncedare tagged with their friends who are out.
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Not SyncedAnd they're out. Except they're not out. They're just out in Facebook, if anybody looks. Which is not
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Not Syncedthe degree of potential informational inequality and disruption and difficulty that arises from a misunderstanding,
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Not Synceda heuristic error, in the minds of human beings about what is and is not discoverable about them is now
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Not SyncedMy students, and I suspect many of the students of the teachers in this room, too, show constantly in
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Not Syncedour dialogue the difficulty. They still think of privacy as "the one secret I don't want revealed."
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Not SyncedAnd that's not their problem. Their problem is all the stuff that's the cruft
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Not Syncedabout them, that they would be very creeped out to think could exist at all.
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Not SyncedThe simplicity with which, you can unanonymize theoretically anonymized data, the ease with which from
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Not SyncedMy friend and collegue Bradley Kooning, who works at the Software Freedom Law Center
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Not Syncedwhich is his right under our law, oddly enough
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Not Syncedthough, try to get health insurance, or get a safe deposit box, or in fact, operate the business at all.
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Not SyncedWe bend over backwards, sometimes, in the operation of our business, because
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Not SyncedBradley's social security number is a secret.
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Not SyncedAnd I said to him one day, "You know, it's over now, because Google knows your social security number."
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Not SyncedHe says: "No they don't, I've never told it to anybody."
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Not SyncedI said: "Yeah, but they know the social security number of everybody else born in Baltimore. Yours is
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Not Syncedthe other other one."
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Not SyncedAnd, as you know, that's true. The data that we infer is the data in the holes between the data
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Not Syncedwe already know if know enough things.
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Not SyncedSo where we live has become a place in which it would be very unwise to say a
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Not Syncedabout anything that it isn't known if you are pretty widely known. And all of us, for one reason or another
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Not Syncedare pretty widely known in the net. We want to live there.
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Not SyncedIt is our neighborhood.
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Not SyncedWe just don't want to live with a video camera on every tree, and a microphone on every bush
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Not Syncedand data miner beneath our feet everywhere we walk.
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Not SyncedAnd the net's like that now.
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Not SyncedI'm not objecting to the presence of AOL newbies in usenet news.
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Not SyncedRight, it's not an asthetic judgment from 1995, you know
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Not Syncedthat they neighborhood is now full of people who don't share our ethnocentric technogeekery, right?
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Not SyncedI'm not lamenting progress of a democritizing kind.
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Not SyncedI'm lamenting progress of a totalizing kind. I'm lamenting progress hostile to human freedom.
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Not SyncedWe all know that it's hostile to human freedom. We all understand it's dystopic possibilities,
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Not Syncedbecause the dystopias of which it is fertile were the stuff of the science fiction we read when we were
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Not Syncedchildren.
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Not SyncedThe Cold War was fertile in the fantastic invention
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Not Syncedof where we live now, and it's hard for us to accept that, but it's true.
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Not SyncedFortunately, of course, it's not owned by the government. Well, it is, it's fortunate, it's true.
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Not SyncedIt's owned by people who you can bribe to get the thing no matter who you are.
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Not SyncedIf you're the government, you have an easy way of doing it. You fill out a subpoena blank and you mail
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Not Syncedit.
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Not SyncedI spent two hours yesterday with a law school class, explaining in detail why the Fourth Ammendment does
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Not Syncedwho would do that on a Friday night?
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Not SyncedBut the Fourth Amendment doesn't exist anymore.
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Not SyncedI'll put the audio on the net, and the FBI and you can listen to it.
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Not Syncedanytime you want.
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Not SyncedWe have to fess up. If we're the people who care about freedom, it's late in the game, and we're behind.
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Not SyncedWe did a lot of good stuff, and we have a lot of tools lying around that we built over the last 25 years
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Not SyncedI helped people build those tools, I helped people keep those tools safe,
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Not SyncedI helped people prevent the monopoly from putting all those tools in its bag and walking off with them
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Not SyncedAnd I'm glad the tools are around, but we do have to admit: we have not used them to protect freedom
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Not Syncedbecause freedom is decaying. And that's what David
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Not Syncedmeant in his very kind introduction.
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Not SyncedIn fact, people who are investing in the new enterprises of unfreedom, are also the people you will hear
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Not Syncedif you hang out in Silicon Valley these days telling you that Open Source has become irrelevant.
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Not SyncedWhat's their logic? Their logic is Software as a Service is becoming the way of the world.
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Not SyncedSince nobody every gets any software anymore, the licenses that say if you give people software, you
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Not Syncedhave to give them freedom, don't matter, because you're not giving anybody any software, you're only
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Not Syncedgiving them services.
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Not SyncedWell, that's right, Open Source doesn't matter anymore. Free Software matters a lot.
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Not SyncedBecause, of course, Free Software is Open Source software with freedom.
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Not SyncedAnd Stallman was right, it's the Freedom that matters, ok, the rest of it is just source code.
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Not SyncedFreedom still matters, and what we need to do is to make Free Software matter to the problem that we
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Not Syncedhave, which is un-free services, delivered in un-free ways really begining to deteriorate the structure
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Not Syncedof human freedom.
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Not SyncedLike a lot of un-freedom, the real underlying social process that force this un-freedom along, is nothing
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Not Syncedmore than perceived convenience.
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Not SyncedAll sorts of freedom goes over perceived convenience.
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Not SyncedYou know this, you've stopped paying for things with cash, you use a card you can wave at an RFID reader
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Not SyncedConvenience is said to dictate that you need free web hosting and PHP doodads in return for spying all t
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Not Syncedthe time, because webservers are so terrible to run.
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Not SyncedWho could run a webserver of his own, and keep the logs?
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Not SyncedIt would be brutal.
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Not SyncedWell, it would if it were IIS, I mean, you know, it was a self fulfilling, well, it was intended to be
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Not Synceda self fulfilling, yeah, it was designed to say "you're a client, I'm a server. I invented Windows 7. "
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Not Synced"It was my idea, I'll keep the logs, thank you very much."
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Not SyncedThat was the industry.
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Not SyncedWe built another industry. It's in here. But it's in - well, yeah, it is kind of in here, huh?
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Not SyncedSo where isn't it?
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Not SyncedWell, it's not in the personal web server I don't have that would prevent me from falling...
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Not SyncedWell why don't we do something about that?
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Not SyncedSo what do we need?
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Not SyncedWe need a really good web server that you can put in your pocket and plug in any place
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Not SyncedIn other words, it shouldn't be any larger than the charger for your cellphone.
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Not SyncedAnd you shouldn't be able to plug it into any power jack in the world and into any wire near it
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Not Syncedor sink it up to any wifi router that happens to be in its neighborhood
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Not SyncedIt should add a couple of USB ports to attach it to things. It should know how to bring itself up
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Not Syncedit should know how to start its web server. It should know how to go and collect your stuff out of all
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Not Syncedof the social networking places where you've got it.
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Not SyncedIt should know how to send an encrypted backup of everything to your friends servers.
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Not SyncedIt should know how to microblog. It should know how to make some noise that's like tweet, but not gonna
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Not Syncedinfringe anybody's trademark.
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Not SyncedIn other words, it should know how to be your - oh, excuse me, I have to use a dangerous word - avatar
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Not Synced, in a free net that works for you, and keeps the logs.
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Not SyncedYou can always tell what's happening in your server, and if anybody else what's happening in your server
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Not Syncedthey can get a search warrant.
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Not SyncedAnd if you feel like moving your server to Oceana, or Sealand or New Zealand, or the North Pole, well
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Not Syncedbuy a plane ticket and put it in your pocket. Take it there and leave it behind.
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Not SyncedNow there's a little more we got to do, but you know it's all trivial. We need some dynamic DNS, and
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Not Syncedall stuff we've already invented, it's all there, nobody needs anything special.
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Not SyncedDo we have the server you can put in your pocket?
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Not SyncedIndeed we do, off the shelf hardware now, right?
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Not SyncedBeautiful little wall warts, made with ARM chips
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Not Syncedexactly what I spec'ed for you. Plugin 'em in, plug 'em in, wire'em up.
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Not SyncedHow's the software stack in there? I don't know, gee, it's any software stack you want to put in there.
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Not SyncedUbuntu 9.04, 9.10, 8.04, 8.10, Debian, Fedora, it doesn't matter, it can do it in an instant.
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Not SyncedIn fact we will send it to you with somebody's top of the charts current distro in it, you just have
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Not Syncedto name which one you want. Which one do you want?
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Not SyncedWell, you ought to want the Debian GNU/Linux social networking stack
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Not SyncedDelivered to you free, free as in freedom, I mean.
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Not SyncedWhich does all of things I mean, brings itself up, runs its little Apache, or it's OIAUTH, or it's tinyHTTP or, HTTPlighty,
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Not Syncedwhatever you want. Does all of the things we need it to do, syncs up, gets your social network
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Not Synceddata from the places, locks it down, does you backup, searches, find your friends, registers your dynamic
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Not SyncedDNS. All of it is trivial, all of it is stuff we've got.
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Not SyncedWe need to put that together.
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Not SyncedI'm not talking about a thing that's hard for us - we need to make a Free Software distribution
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Not Syncedhow many of those do we do?
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Not Syncedright?
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Not SyncedWe need to give a bunch to all of our friends and we need to say: "Here, fool around with this and make
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Not Syncedit better."
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Not SyncedWe need to do the one thing we are really, really, really, really good at.
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Not SyncedBecause all the rest of it is done, in the bag, cheap, it's ready.
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Not SyncedThose wall wart servers, those are $99 now, going to $79, when there are 5 million of them, they will
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Not Syncedbe $29.99
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Not SyncedThen we go to people and we say: "$29.99 once, for a lifetime. Great social networking. Updates automatically.
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Not SyncedSoftware so strong, you coudn't knock it over if you kicked it. Used in hundreds of millions of servers
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Not Syncedall over the world, doing a wonderful job, and you know what? You get no spying, for free.
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Not SyncedThey want to know a what's going on in there? Let them get a search warrant.
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Not SyncedFor your appartment, your home, your castle, the place where the Fourth Amendment still sort of exists
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Not Syncedevery other Tuesday and Thursday, when the Supreme Court is not in session
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Not SyncedWe can do that. We can do that. That requires us to do only the stuff we're really really good at.
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Not SyncedThe rest of it, we get for free.
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Not SyncedMr. Zuckerberg? Not so much.
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Not SyncedBecause of course, when there is a competitor to "All spying all the time, whether you like it or not"
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Not Syncedthe competition's going to do real well.
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Not SyncedDon't expect Google to be the competitor, that's a platform.
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Not SyncedWhat we need is to make a thing that's so greasy, that thre will never be another platform again
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Not SyncedCan we do it? Yeah, absolutely, in fact, if you don't have
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Not Synceda date on Friday night, let's just have a hackfest and get it done.
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Not SyncedRight, it's well within our reach.
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Not SyncedAre we going to do it before the Facebook IPO, or are we going to wait until after?
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Not SyncedReally, honestly, seriously?
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Not SyncedSee, the problem that the law has very often in the world where we live in and practice where we work
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Not SyncedThe problem that the law has is very often the problem that technology can solve,
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Not Syncedand the problem that technology can solve is the place where we go to the law.
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Not SyncedThat's the Free Software movement, right? There's software hacking over here, and there's legal hacking
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Not Syncedover there, and you put'em both together. The whole is bigger than the sum of the parts.
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Not SyncedSo, it's not like we have to live in the catastrophe. We don't have to live in the catastrophe.
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Not SyncedIt's not like what we have to do to begin to reverse the catastrophe is hard for us.
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Not SyncedWe need to re-architecht services in the net. We need to redistribute services back towards the edge
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Not SyncedWe need to de-virtualize the servers where your life is stored, and we need to restore some autonomy
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Not Syncedto you, as the owner of the server.
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Not SyncedThe measures for taking those steps are technical.
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Not SyncedAs usual, the box builders are ahead of us.
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Not SyncedThe hardware isn't the constraint.
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Not SyncedAs usual, nowadays, the software isn't really that deep of a constraint, either.
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Not SyncedBecause we've made so much wonderful software, which is in fact being used by all of the guys
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Not Syncedon the bad architecture.
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Not SyncedThey don't want do without our stuff. The bad architecture is enabled, powered by us.
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Not SyncedThe re-architecture is, too. And we have our usual magic benefit.
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Not SyncedIf we had one copy of what I'm talking about, we'd have all of the copies we need.
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Not SyncedWe have no manufacturing, or transport or logistics constraint. If we do the job, it's done. We scale.
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Not SyncedThis is a technical challenge for a social reason. It's a frontier for technical people to explore.
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Not SyncedThere is enormous social payoff for exploring it.
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Not SyncedThe payoff is plain, because the harm being ameliorated is current, and people you know are suffering
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Not Syncedfrom it.
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Not SyncedEverything we know about why we make Free Software says that's when we come into our own.
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Not SyncedIt's a technical challenge, incrementally attainable by extension from where we already are
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Not Syncedthat makes the lives of the people around us and whom we care about immediately better.
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Not SyncedI have never, in 25 years of doing this work, I have never seen us fail to rise to a challenge that could
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Not SyncedSo I don't think we're going to fail this one either,
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Not SyncedMr. Zuckerberg richly deserves bankruptcy.
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Not SyncedLet's give it to him.
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Not SyncedLet's give it to him. For free.
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Not SyncedAnd I promise, and you should promise, too, not to spy on the bankruptcy proceedings.
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Not SyncedIt's none of our business, it's private.
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Not SyncedThis is actually, you know, a story potentially happy. It is a story potentially happy.
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Not SyncedAnf if we do it, we will have quelled one more rumor about the irrelevance of us.
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Not SyncedAnd everybody in the Valley will have to go find another buzzword.
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Not SyncedAnd all the guys who think that Sand Hill Road is going to rise into new power and glory by spying on
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Not Syncedeverybody and monetizing it, will have to find another line of work, too.
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Not SyncedAll of which is purely on the side of the angels. Purely on the side of the angels.
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Not SyncedWe will not be rid of all of our problems, by any means, but just moving the logs from them to you
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Not Syncedis the single biggest step that we can take in resolving a whole range of social problems that I feel
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Not Syncedbadly in what remains in what remains of my American constitution, and that I would feel badly aboute
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Not Syncedif I were watching the failure of the European data protection law from the inside instead of outside
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Not Syncedand that I would feel kind of hopeful about, if I were, oh, say a friend of mine in China.
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Not SyncedBecause you know, of course, we really ought to put a VPN in that wall wart, and probably we gotta put
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Not Synceda Tor router in there, and of course we've got BitTorrent. And by the time you get done with all of that
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Not Syncedwe have a Freedom Box. We have a box that not merely climbs us out of the hole we're in,
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Not SyncedWe have a box that puts the ladder up for people who are deeper in the hole than we are.
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Not SyncedWhich is another thing we love to do.
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Not SyncedI do believe the United States State Department is going to go slanging away at the Chinese Communist
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Not SyncedParty about internet freedom, and I believe the Chinese Party is going to go slanging back.
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Not SyncedAnd what they are going to say is: "you think you've got real good privacy and autonomy in the internet in
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Not Syncedyour neighborhood?"
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Not SyncedAnd I got to admit, everytime they do that now, as they have been doing it in the last two weeks
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Not SyncedI would say "Ouch" if I was Hillary Clinton and I knew anything about it.
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Not SyncedBecause we don't. Because we don't.
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Not SyncedIt's true, we have a capitalist kind, and they've got a centralist vanguard of the party sort of marxists
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Not Syncedkind, or maybe marxists, or maybe just totalitarian kind.
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Not SyncedBut we're not going to win the freedom of the net discussion carrying Facebook on our backs.
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Not SyncedWe're not.
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Not SyncedBut just through those wall wart servers around pretty thickly in American society and start taking back
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Not Syncedthe logs and if you want to know who I talk to on a Friday night, get a search warrant, and stop reading
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Not Syncedmy email, and by the way,
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Not Syncedthere's my GPG key, and now we really are encrypting, for a change, and so on
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Not Syncedand so on, and so on
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Not Syncedand it begins to look like something we might want to go on an international crusade about
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Not Syncedwe really are making freedom, here, for other people, too.
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Not SyncedFor people who live in places where the web don't work.
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Not SyncedSo this is not a challenge we don't want to rise to, it's a challenge that we want to rise to plenty.
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Not SyncedIn fact, we're in a happy state that all the benefits that we could get are way bigger than the technical
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Not Syncedintricacy of doing what needs to be done, which isn't much. isn't much.
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Not SyncedThat's where we came from. We came from our technology was more free than we understood
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Not Syncedand we gave away a bunch of the freedom before we knew it was gone
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Not SyncedWe came from un-free software had bad social consequences further down the road than even the freedom
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Not Syncedagitators knew.
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Not SyncedWe came from un-freedom's metaphors tend to produce bad technology.
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Not SyncedIn other words, we came from stuff that our movement, if I can call it 'ours,' was designed to confront
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Not Syncedfrom the beginning, but we came from there.
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Not SyncedAnd we're still living with the consequences of: we didn't do it quite right the first time.
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Not SyncedThough we cought up, thanks to Richard Stallman, and we're moving on.
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Not SyncedWhere we live now, is no place where we're going to have to see our grandchildren live.
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Not SyncedWhere we live now is no place we would like to conduct guided tours of.
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Not SyncedI used to say to my students: "How many video cameras are there between where you live and the law school?
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Not Syncedcount them."
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Not SyncedI now say to my students: "How many video cameras are there between the front door of the law school
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Not Syncedand this classroom? Count them."
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Not SyncedI now say to my students: "Can you find a place where there are no video cameras?"
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Not SyncedNow what happened in that process, was that we created immense cognitive auxiliaries for the State.
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Not SyncedEnourmous engines of listening.
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Not SyncedYou know how it is if you live in an American university, thanks to the movie and music companies,
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Not Syncedwhich keep reminding you of the consequeces of living in the midst of an enormous surveillence network.
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Not SyncedWe're surrounded by stuff listening to and watching us.
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Not SyncedWe're surrounded by mineable data.
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Not SyncedNot all of that is going to go away, because we took Facebook and split it up and carried away our little
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Not Syncedshards of it.
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Not SyncedIt's not going go away because we won't take free webhosting with spying inside, anymore
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Not SyncedWe'll have other work to do.
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Not SyncedAnd some of that work is lawyers' work, I will admit that.
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Not SyncedSome of that work is law drafting and litigating and making trouble and doing lawyer stuff.
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Not SyncedAnd I'm, that's fine, ready.
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Not SyncedMy friends and I, we'll do the lawyers' work.
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Not SyncedIt would be way simpler to do lawyers' work if we were living in a society which had come to understand
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Not Syncedits privacy.
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Not SyncedIt would be way simpler to do lawyers' work if young people realized that when they grow up and start
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Not Syncedvoting or start voting now that they're grown up, this is an issue.
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Not SyncedThat they need to get the rest of it done, the way we fixed the big stuff when we were kids.
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Not SyncedAnd we'll have a much easier time
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Not Syncedwith the enormous confusions of international interlocking of regimes
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Not Syncedwhen we have deteriorated the immense force of American capitalism enforcing us to be less free and more
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Not Syncedsurveiled for other people's profit all of the time.
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Not SyncedIt isn't that this gets all problems solved, but the easy work is very rich and rewarding right now.
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Not SyncedThe problems are really bad. Getting the easy ones out will improve the politics of solving the hard
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Not Syncedones.
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Not SyncedAnd it's right up our alley. The solution is made of our parts. We gotta do it. That's my message.
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Not SyncedIt's Friday night, some people don't want to go right back to coding, I'm sure
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Not SyncedWe could put it off until Tuesday, but how long do you really want to wait?
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Not SyncedHow long do you really want to wait?
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Not SyncedYou know, every day that goes by, there's more data we'll never get back
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Not SyncedEvery day that goes by, there's more inferences we can't undo.
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Not SyncedEvery day that goes by, we pile up more stuff in the hands of the people who got too much.
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Not SyncedSo it's not like we should just say: "one of these days, I'll get around to that."
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Not SyncedIt's not like we should say: "you know, umn, I think I'd rather, sort of, spend my time browsing news a
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Not Syncedabout iPad."
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Not SyncedIt's way more urgent than that. It's way more urgent.
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Not SyncedIt's that we haven't given ourselves the direction in which to go.
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Not SyncedSo let's give ourselves the direction to go.
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Not SyncedThe direction in which to go is towards freedom, using Free Software, to make social justice.
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Not Syncedalright?
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Not SyncedBut, but, but, you know this. That's the problem with talking on a Friday night.
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Not SyncedYou talk for an hour, and all you tell people is what they know already.
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Not SyncedSo thanks a lot. I'm happy to take your questions.
- Title:
- Freedom in the Cloud
- Description:
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Eben Moglen talks about "Freedom in the Cloud" at the Feb 5, 2010 meeting of the Internet Society's New York chapter. This was the first speech where Eben talks about the FreedomBox, an idea which has turned into the independent FreedomBox Foundation (http://freedomboxfoundation.org) and numerous software development projects. Both highlights and a full transcript of the talk are available here: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/events/2010/ISOC-NY-Moglen-2010/
Original video by Joly MacFie at: http://www.archive.org/details/isoc-ny1710
- Video Language:
- English
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pivanov edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud | ||
pivanov edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud | ||
pivanov edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud | ||
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gdiaz.uc edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud | ||
gdiaz.uc edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud | ||
gdiaz.uc edited English subtitles for Freedom in the Cloud |