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Barbeque Protest, São Paulo, Brazil
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Higienópolis neighbourhood, May 14 2011
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A protest for more public transport
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Pirituba. He lives in Pirituba, what about you?
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in Imbu das Artes
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Franco do Rocha
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We live in the Northern area.
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I live in the district of Itaim Paulista,
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Do you live in the neighborhood?
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Yes, I do.
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I live in Vila Silva
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I live in Horto Florestal
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Do you work around here?
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I work here in the shopping centre.
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But where my colleague goes, there is no metro.
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What do you do here in the shopping?
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I do cleaning.
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How do you do to come from home to work?
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We take two buses, if there was a metro station, it would be much easier
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What time do you leave home?
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At six.
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Six in the morning?
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And then, you get the bus. Is it full of people?
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Gosh, it's packed. You need to stand and push around.
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And then leaving at 6 am, what time do you get here?
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9 am.
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So it takes 3 hours from home to work?
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If there was tube, how different would it be?
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In less than two hours we would be here.
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I take a train, in the area I live there is no metro,
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then I get off in Bras and take the tube to Marechal Deodoro
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What time do you leave home?
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2 pm if I start at 4 pm. If I start at 12 pm, I need to leave at 10 am.
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When I start at 10 am, I need to leave at 8 am.
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How long does it take from your home?
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Two hours, two and a half at rush time.
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And what if there was a metro station, how long would it take you?
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From my home? It would be much, much easier.
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What time do you leave work?
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When I leave at 10 pm I get home at 00:30
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So taking the bus late is dangerous too, isn't it? Is metro safer?
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Yes, and much more comfortable.
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I often chat with the bus conductors, you know
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I know that for them it would be a bit better
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Is not that much what I do, you know?
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I tell them, "I'll give to 2 dosh and jump the turnstile
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Then they get the money themselves
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And I pay a little bit less, you know
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I need to do this because for me it is too expensive
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I think it is ridiculous that we come from far away to work,
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and have to wait 1,5 hours at the bus stop
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And the metro wouldn't be only for me
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it would be for everyone who comes to work here
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It is important. I live in Vila Silva.
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And where is it?
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It is after after Penha.
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And how do you do to get here?
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I take two buses.
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And where do you work?
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I work in Angelica, in a hair dresser.
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And how long does it take to get here?
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It takes me 1 hour, 1 hour and a half
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And how many buses do you take?
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Two buses.
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If there was a metro station, how would you do?
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I'd take the metro and it would be great, not only for myself, but everyone
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who comes here to work and relies on public transport
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For me it is excellent to use the station at Marques.
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So there is no need for another station?
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No, there is no need. The discussion, at the dweller association, is actually
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not against the construction of the metro station
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It is against the place chosen for it
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and this is a technical decision, not the way that this person has implied it was
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Because there are stations near by in Mackenzie, Angelica, PUC, Zero
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all ranging from 500 to 2.000 metres.
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Where is the logic of it?
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And this line was originally to be called University Line.
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And I am sure most people protesting here don't even know this.
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I know the whole history. I've followed this.
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It would be called Universitario because it comes from Liberdade
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... how is it called? The university?
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Mackenzie?
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No, the one in Liberdade?
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Ah, FMU?
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That is it. It comes from there, from Mackenzie, and PUC, it was called University Line
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Now how can you serve the university with an station here?
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In between stations there are 1,500 metres
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Do you want to know my point of view?
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Yes, I do. Would you care to tell me? Are you bothered?
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Yes, I am. As a dweller, as citizen, simply put, in Brazil there is no citizenship,
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I am bothered indeed
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What bothers you, the noise, the agitation?
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No, that does not bother me much.
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What bothers me is the hipocrisy of the attorney, of the governor, of that disgusting Lula,
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I don't know. I think it is antisemitism. It is absolutely discriminatory.
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Do you have an point of view about the metro issue, or what bothers you is...
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The metro... Does this neighborhood need a metro station with another station over there?
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It doesn't need another. What I want to know is who is going to pocket the money. That's it.
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And the prosecutor, when I find him... Do you know who he is, no?
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No, I don't know him, I didn't get your point.
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The prosecutor said the following: this is a movement by the elites
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And I am fed up with this "movement by the elites", fed up.
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Hang on, I'm going to find the prosecutor.
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I think it is bad. They have car, they have money. When they don't want to drive, they take a taxi
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And what about us, who are poor?
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What can we do, stop working?
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We need to work.
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And the tube would also be good for people to enjoy themselves too
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Yes, it would be good even for themselves
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This is a mere political issue, because it will not add or take anything for the dweller
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And for you, as a dweller, are you against the metro? Do you back it?
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What is your oppinion?
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I am not. I am even – I won't name names – but my understanding
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is this this association is not against the metro
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It simply wants to be part of the discussion about where the station will be.
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They understood it all wrong.
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And did you think it was offensive for the dwellers of the neighborhood they way it is portraited?
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I think it is offensive for dwellers because the journalist – I don't know who
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he comes and says that the opinion of one person is the opinion of the neighborhood.
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And don't you have the same opinion?
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No whatsoever.
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If in the whole of the area's population just one person has given an unfortunate opinion
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Can you say it is the opinion of the neighborhood? That was what he did.
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Are you a dweller of the neighborhood?
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Yes I am.
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And do you agree with the metro?
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Yes indeed. Better for the city.
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Do you usually take the public transport?
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Yes, I do. It would be much helpful.
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I have been using the Mackenze Station
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that everyone thinks is dangerous. It is a [?]
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Do you work? Where?
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Yes, I do. I work at the university. I walk there, I walk back.
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Sometimes I take the bus, when I am tired.
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What did you think about the things that happened?
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I think this protest is great, you know.
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For everyone to put their opinion forward ...
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Before, yeah. But nowadays many people prefer to take public transport
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Than waste time in the traffic, it is more stressful.
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I think in the past only, not now
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So why do you think there is so much resistance
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from some people here to get mobilized against the metro station here?
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Because of the "different people", access to the public will be easier
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and they don't want to mingle with people from the eastern side of the city
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With the metro, the access will be easier.
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And why do you think they don't want it?
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They don't want it because they don't like us that much
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And what will happen to them?
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Nothing... nothing will happen to them. It is a problem of their spirt, that is it.
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It must be because they think that metro will bring many poor people
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It is people who work here. It is not just poor people.
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Because there is metro in Paulista, Brigadeiro, Ana Rosa and there are no poor people there
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I don't now what the matter is
