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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.30,0:00:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--- 16 July 2011 ---\N
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.76,0:00:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main idea is to try to create a free space for discussion and debate…
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.94,0:00:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… where you can see all of the diversity in thinking in Cuban society.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.75,0:00:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, for a long time a very vertical thinking has been maintained…
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.02,0:00:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… a thinking that makes it seem all Cubans think along the same lines…
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.26,0:00:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… which is false, and I think that is becoming increasingly obvious.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.100,0:00:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these types of spaces help us to display different types of thinking, and at the same time to have a dialog between them.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.51,0:00:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, really, there are not many, there are almost none…
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.44,0:00:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… because one of the things that has happened in Cuba is that since the beginning of the Revolution they said:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.66,0:00:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Within the Revolution everything, against the Revolution nothing.”
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.86,0:01:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this concept of Revolution has been extremely variable, always in line with the government’s interest.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.07,0:01:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that has made it very difficult for a substantial difference from the official line to really exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.69,0:01:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, this is the sixth time we have done that…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.93,0:01:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… but last year we did one in a semi-official space that was much larger.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.68,0:01:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one this year we did on March 5th…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.92,0:01:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,…and it was with a hiphop artist and another friend who has a a project called “Cuban Talent.”
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.77,0:01:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, on one occasion they called me to talk…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.57,0:01:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… really I can’t say there was some kind a furious attack or anything like that, there wasn’t.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.14,0:01:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talked about some opinions on which we disagree…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.74,0:01:54.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… some scratches, but fine, I hope they will come to understand that these spaces are needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.72,0:01:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, the idea is to try to make the space become bigger…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.91,0:02:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… and especially to involve people, intellectuals who belong to, who maintain the official government line…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.73,0:02:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… and people can also come from all kinds of thinking and expand the space as a forum for debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.33,0:02:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I don’t know all the artists who will be there in the afternoon…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.25,0:02:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,…I’m sorry, but I wasn’t the one who organized the afternoon panel.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.14,0:02:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been other friends who know perfectly well who they were.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.31,0:02:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know exactly… the afternoon panel is going to be about art and society.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.68,0:02:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I think the role of the United States will be huge…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.99,0:02:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... especially because there is a very large Cuban community in Miami…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.66,0:02:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… that right now is injecting a lot of money into the country, fundamentally so that people can live a little better.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.84,0:02:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they are going to have, all the Cubans in the diaspora are going to have, a very important role…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.67,0:02:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… and especially the community in Miami.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.60,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The American government I believe should support the exchange between Cubans in some way…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… which does not mean that they should always accept the conditions set by the Cuban government…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.36,0:03:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… which I consider totally illogical.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.77,0:03:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I do think they should promote the ever-growing exchange among Cubans.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.80,0:03:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well look, the problem of the issue of relations between governments is…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.13,0:03:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,…at times, a little complicated because there are a lot of factors that may escape our knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.17,0:03:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do believe that in the aspect of… between Cubans, between Cubans in the U.S. and we here in Cuba…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.80,0:03:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… that is those who live on one side and those who live on the other, there needs to be more communication…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.19,0:03:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… a flow of information, of exchange.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.65,0:03:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I believe that really, the more Cubans come here, or the Europeans come here, or the Spanish or Canadians…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.98,0:04:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… I believe that the real change is in the Cubans, and Cubans should be the ones holding the reins of that change.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.35,0:04:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think this is what should be primarily encouraged and promoted.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.15,0:04:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the other aspects, well, they may have different views about the matter…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.91,0:04:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,…but I really think that those aspects aren’t essentials that are going to cause a transformation in Cuban society.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.33,0:04:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the transformation comes more between us Cubas.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.37,0:04:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, I have no exact knowledge of how they handle these funds…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.97,0:04:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… and I can’t say specifically if one way or another in which these funds are spent has been correct or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.36,0:04:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I can comment on is that for the people within Cuban civil society trying to make a change…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.79,0:04:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,…it’s extremely difficult to do this because they have no resources. Resources don't exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.62,0:04:57.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government has a complete monopoly over the press, radio, television…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.13,0:05:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… so to try to reach the rest of Cubans, to exchange viewpoints and opinions, it makes it very very complicated.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.37,0:05:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, if the government also has a monopoly of being the only employer…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.19,0:05:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… this makes the task of civil society even more difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.55,0:05:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there is the contentious issue, because it is very contentious, around the management of the funds…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.62,0:05:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… but I think that in some way, I don’t know exactly what would be the most appropriate…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.30,0:05:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… but I do believe that Cuban society had to have to opportunity to develop its own media.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.27,0:05:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that perhaps some variant in which Cubans themselves can generate their own resources would be best.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.78,0:05:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I think that changes are already underway and will continue.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.38,0:06:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the time is over, I think that people, most Cubans, want the country to take another path.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.81,0:06:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, we have seen that up to now the government has not come up with a solution to our serious problems…
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.39,0:06:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… like, for example, emigration, all the problems of demographics we talk about…
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.75,0:06:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… the economic problems. Then people simply want another kind of reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.94,0:06:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another kind of future.\N