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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.56,0:00:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiersten Beigel: Good\Nafternoon, everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.57,0:00:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Kiersten Beigel.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.57,0:00:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm with the Office of Head\NStart, and I would love
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.31,0:00:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to welcome you this afternoon\N(or midday or morning,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.18,0:00:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the case may be\Nfor some of you).
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.18,0:00:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to be your\Nmoderator for this webinar,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.97,0:00:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Father Engagement is\NEverybody's Business",
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.72,0:00:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am absolutely thrilled\Nto be able to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.93,0:00:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a lot going on this week\Nat the Office of Head Start,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.25,0:00:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you know since you\Nregistered for this webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.90,0:00:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is part of a series\Nof resources/events
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.82,0:00:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are happening the\Nweek before Father's Day,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.30,0:00:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're really excited to be able
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.39,0:00:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to offer the field some new\Nresources to support the work
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.06,0:00:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we do in partnering with\Nfathers in our programs --
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.86,0:00:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Head Start and Early\NHead Start programs.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.78,0:00:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, before we get\Ngoing I'm going to --
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.56,0:00:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's do a little tech talk here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.56,0:00:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to remind you you\Ncan use your computer speakers
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.50,0:00:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear the webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.50,0:01:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you can't hear the presenters\Nyou can, of course, always attempt
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.55,0:01:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to turn on your computer speakers.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.83,0:01:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you're having\Nproblems with your speakers,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.100,0:01:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they're not working, you can --
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.62,0:01:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've got a phone number here\Nin the public chat that Natalie,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.80,0:01:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's our webinar coordinator,\Nput up for everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.70,0:01:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you can see that\Nin the public chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.71,0:01:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a number with a\Ndial in that you can call
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.87,0:01:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in if you're having trouble.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.87,0:01:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also wanted to direct you to Sam.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.46,0:01:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sam has his own tab next\Nto the public-private tab.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.75,0:01:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a Sam tab.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.75,0:01:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you are having any trouble,\Nany kind of technical issues,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.64,0:01:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can do some private chatting\Nwith Sam and he'll help you out.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.01,0:01:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's our tech talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.01,0:01:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to tell you that we\Nhave a pretty interactive session
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.12,0:01:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you today.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.12,0:01:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're really excited.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.12,0:01:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a pretty laid back group\Nof folks, who are very passionate
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.50,0:01:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their work with\Nfathers, to say the least.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.30,0:02:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think they're going to keep\Nit pretty conversational so this --
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.08,0:02:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we may be doing a little\Nwebinar free styling here,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.33,0:02:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little different than\Nthe usual style of webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.76,0:02:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're also excited to get\Nto know a little bit about you.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.08,0:02:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be doing some polling\Nquestions, asking you to weigh in,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.39,0:02:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they'll guide you\Nwhen it's time to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.11,0:02:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, now I would like to give\Nyou a chance to hear from them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.76,0:02:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to introduce\Nthemselves, and we'll start
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.22,0:02:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with David who is in the\Nupper left hand corner here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.81,0:02:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you guys could just tell\Nus who you are and a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.95,0:02:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about your connection\Nwith this work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.66,0:02:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Jones: Okay,\Nthank you Kiersten.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.24,0:02:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.24,0:02:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm so excited that\Nyou're all participating
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.24,0:02:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with us on this webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.24,0:02:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is David Jones.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.24,0:02:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am the Fatherhood Specialist\Nhere in the Office of Head Start.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.24,0:02:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I co-lead all of our fatherhood\Nefforts with Kiersten Beigel.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.62,0:02:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have about 15 to 20 years
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.57,0:02:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of experience providing services\Ndirectly, indirectly for fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.85,0:03:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individual work, group work,\Nyou name it, within the context
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.45,0:03:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Early Head Start, Head Start,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.45,0:03:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also as a consultant\Nto other programs.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.45,0:03:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So welcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.45,0:03:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Hornstein: Okay,\NI'm John Hornstein.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.61,0:03:17.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm on the upper right hand side,\Nthe one with the glasses up there.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.89,0:03:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm delighted to be working with\NDavid and Ed and Kiersten on this.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.22,0:03:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I work at the National\NCenter for Parent, Family,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.88,0:03:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Community Engagement and\Nhave been doing fatherhood work
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.44,0:03:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for over 30 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.65,0:03:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And kind of backed into it\Nwhen -- at a time when --
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.29,0:03:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember very distinctly the\Nfirst time I said to myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.56,0:03:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I've got to do more about\Nthis," was at a conference
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.66,0:03:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the keynote speaker\Nwas asked, well,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.66,0:03:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you do with fathers then?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.66,0:03:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the speaker said, "well,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.66,0:03:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing because they\Ndon't show up."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.78,0:04:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that got me not laid back,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.20,0:04:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Kiersten said,\Nbut quite passionate.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.86,0:04:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'll move onto Ed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.52,0:04:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Foreign Language]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.05,0:04:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin Cheromiah: This is --\Nmy name is Edwin Cheromiah,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.28,0:04:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just greeted you
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.28,0:04:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our Pueblo Laguna\Nlanguage, the Keres language.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.40,0:04:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just wishing\Neverybody a good afternoon.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.27,0:04:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also again, I've been with the\NPueblo Laguna Fatherhood Program
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.03,0:04:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the Laguna Head Start\Nfor the past eight years.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.64,0:04:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Way back in 2004, these men -- a\Nfew men got together and wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.80,0:04:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have fathers more engaged.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.30,0:04:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it went through\NPFS first of all,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.58,0:04:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then finally came\Ninto Head Start.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.63,0:04:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where I've been,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.63,0:04:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's where I was\Nhired for this position.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.63,0:04:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I continue to offer\Nservices for dads, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.22,0:04:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resources to different programs\Nthat we have here in Laguna,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.86,0:04:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also offering\Nthem just the support
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.86,0:04:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sometimes fathers\Nneed to move forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.38,0:05:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a pleasure\Nto be with you today.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.10,0:05:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiersten: So how we're really --
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.37,0:05:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might have heard\Nsome of our muted voices.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.31,0:05:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were really excited to see\Nfolks rolling in, and we have well
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.23,0:05:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 1,000 people register for\Nthis, which is very telling
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.44,0:05:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how interested people\Nare in father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.66,0:05:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, today what we're going to\Ndo is about an hour and a half.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.45,0:05:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going to monitoring chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.45,0:05:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as questions come up along the\Nway, we might stop and take some
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.60,0:05:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those, or I might\Nmake some decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.60,0:05:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about holding those\Ntowards the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.60,0:05:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, what we're going to do is\Nreflect kind of on where we are now
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.65,0:05:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where we hope to go in\Nbuilding supportive partnerships
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.44,0:05:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fathers, think a little bit\Nabout sort of the movement --
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.92,0:05:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the fatherhood movement and how\Nthings have evolved in Head Start
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.55,0:05:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with regards to father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.79,0:05:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we want to renew our enthusiasm\Nand commitment to this work.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.87,0:05:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to identify some ways\Nto build father engagement
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.63,0:05:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is systemic,\Nintegrated and comprehensive,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.98,0:05:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll talk more\Nabout what that means.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.40,0:06:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we hope to share some\Nnew resources for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.10,0:06:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the resources that\Nare coming out this week
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.64,0:06:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you may use to improve your\Nprogram practice with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.45,0:06:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, without further ado,\NI turn it over to David.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.75,0:06:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Hi, so we're going to begin\Nwith our first polling question,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.46,0:06:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a two part question.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.46,0:06:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to get a feel for,\Nyou know, the participants
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.88,0:06:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the call today, so we'd like\Nto ask that everyone participate.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.68,0:06:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Natalie can you please\Ngo ahead and launch the poll?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.52,0:06:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.64,0:06:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And the first\Nquestion is, what is your role
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.10,0:06:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within the Head Start program?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.18,0:06:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we'd like for everyone to\Nsort of take a moment and click
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.89,0:06:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the choice that best\Nfits the role that you have
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.97,0:06:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the program within\Nwhere you work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.97,0:06:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If - obviously, if you're not
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.97,0:06:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within a Head Start program you can\Nchoose one of the other options.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.76,0:06:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll give you a few\Nseconds to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.26,0:07:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.19,0:07:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And Natalie, I'm\Nnot sure in terms of time,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.76,0:07:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but give them a couple more seconds
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.84,0:07:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we can take\Na look at the results.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.34,0:07:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.43,0:07:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay, can we see\Nresults from the first question?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.37,0:07:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow, so it looks like about\N26 percent of you are family
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.19,0:07:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and community partnership staff,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.69,0:07:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,11 percent are parent involvement\Nstaff, and then just sort of mix
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.35,0:07:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sort of directors, sort\Nof leadership in the program.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.48,0:07:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We actually have some focused male\Ninvolvement staff, health staff.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.70,0:08:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is great and this\Nsort of connects with the title
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.13,0:08:03.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this webinar, which\Nis, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.13,0:08:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Father Engagement is\NEverybody's Business"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.71,0:08:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is really nice to see.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.30,0:08:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, can we move now to\Nthe next polling question?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.52,0:08:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.52,0:08:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay, it's going\Nto come up in a second.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.02,0:08:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.05,0:08:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, what is your gender?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.55,0:08:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.50,0:08:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Take a few moments,\Nmake your selection.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.100,0:08:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.07,0:08:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And the one\Nthing I want to say
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.07,0:08:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the previous\Npolling question is, again,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.07,0:08:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,irrespective of your role\Nwithin the program, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.07,0:08:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone can make a meaningful\Ncontribution to working with,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.67,0:08:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supporting and engaging fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.67,0:09:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.67,0:09:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's one of the\Nthings that we really want
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.67,0:09:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to underscore with today's webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.47,0:09:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, can we see the\Nresults please, Natalie?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.97,0:09:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.05,0:09:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: It takes a\Ncouple of seconds.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.89,0:09:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> David: Ah.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.89,0:09:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> John: Wow.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.75,0:09:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> John: You know that leaves a\Ncertain percentage unaccounted for.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.38,0:09:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> David: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.38,0:09:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> John: But still, the proportion\Nis pretty interesting isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.38,0:09:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> David: It is.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.38,0:09:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is and I mean this is\Nreally important for us
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.38,0:09:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because again we want to make\Nsure that we're being thoughtful
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.38,0:09:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of how we respond, how\Nwe present and what we're saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.32,0:09:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a sense that you know\Nour programs are predominantly
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.59,0:09:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populated by female staff,\Nbut we just want to make sure
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.80,0:09:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're being thoughtful and\Nsensitive to the entire audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.100,0:09:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, thank you so much\Nfor your participation.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.100,0:09:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Natalie, you can go ahead\Nand close that poll.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.50,0:10:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.57,0:10:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: What it also says David\Nis the majority of conversations
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.18,0:10:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fathers are between\Nfemale staff and fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.73,0:10:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's right.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.73,0:10:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.73,0:10:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's right.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.73,0:10:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, it speaks to and\Nunderscores the importance of,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.73,0:10:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of, what happens when those\Nopportunities present themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.73,0:10:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of what we do with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.49,0:10:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we're waiting\Nfor the next slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.07,0:10:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while we're waiting,\Nbasically what we're going
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.54,0:10:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do moving forward is just\Ngoing to be really reflecting
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.13,0:10:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on fatherhood and Head Start\Nand Early Head Start and sort
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.47,0:10:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of talking a little bit about\Nthe historical evolution
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.95,0:10:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the fatherhood\Nmovement within Head Start.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.52,0:10:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.27,0:10:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Seems -- we may be having\Na little technical difficulty.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.79,0:10:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: I've -- David:\NDo you see the slide?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.58,0:10:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, but I\Nclicked on the tab
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.58,0:10:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the top that'll put me\Nback to father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.84,0:11:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did -- David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.84,0:11:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I just did the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.84,0:11:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I mean there's a lot that we\Ncan cover to address, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.38,0:11:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why fatherhood evolved\Nin the way that it has.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.48,0:11:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we can sort of\Nask ourselves some questions
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.100,0:11:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the role the women played.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.17,0:11:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let me say that women have been\Nexceptional in their understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.04,0:11:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and support of the movement\Nto support father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.81,0:11:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think were it not for their\Ninitial insight and their fortitude
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.82,0:11:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and support, I'm not\Ncertain we would have evolved
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.95,0:11:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to where we have today.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.95,0:11:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.95,0:11:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: You know, they\Nhad to allow men in.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.95,0:11:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.95,0:11:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And then what about the men?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.95,0:11:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.95,0:11:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: I think they had to\Ndare to be different and step
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.95,0:11:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of their comfort zone, but what\Nis important is involving fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.67,0:11:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Initially, we got to a place\Nwhere in the awareness stage what
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.57,0:12:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that meant was that we were not\Nonly asking more from fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.18,0:12:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we were also asking more\Nfrom programs and from staff.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.99,0:12:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that means everybody had to\Nbe a little bit different in terms
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.17,0:12:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the way that they were\Nworking and what they did.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.17,0:12:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the second stage, the\Nacknowledging stage, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.23,0:12:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,programs -- we began to believe\Nthat programs needed sort
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.64,0:12:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an adjunct or separate services\Nfor fathers in order for them
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.74,0:12:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be effective, in order\Nfor them to meaningful.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.69,0:12:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think at the\Ntime, John and Ed
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.18,0:12:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you agree, that was appropriate.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.18,0:12:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.18,0:12:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Until we began\Nto see what happened
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.18,0:12:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the father involvement\Nstaff left the organization.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.82,0:12:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know sometimes the -- all\Nthe great effort, the great work
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.64,0:12:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had gone into producing\Nthis program sort of went
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.98,0:12:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out the door with that individual.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.98,0:12:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we've evolved now in our\Nthinking to not only expect
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.03,0:12:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that staff build relationships with\Nfathers and that fathers engage.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.08,0:12:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are suggesting that fully\Nintegrating services for fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.06,0:13:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a component of overall\Nservices is not only appropriate,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.16,0:13:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it can contribute to\Nsustainable service provision
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.48,0:13:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we make fatherhood\Neverybody's business.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.55,0:13:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.55,0:13:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And it's important to note
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.55,0:13:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that initially you know\Nsome fathers were hesitant,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.55,0:13:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost reluctant, for\Nvery valid reasons.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.31,0:13:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know there were some cultural\Nreasons for their distance
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.21,0:13:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from educational programs as well\Nas some of the systemic stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.52,0:13:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're all aware of.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.52,0:13:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, in some cases we have fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.52,0:13:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have received incredible\Nsupport and guidance
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.89,0:13:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from their own fathers, and\Nthey drew from that experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.95,0:13:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was easy to really work\Nwith them and talk to them
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.41,0:13:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what was important\Nfor them as fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.95,0:13:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we had the other end\Nof the spectrum with fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.96,0:13:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that did not have that\Nexperience that were committed
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.26,0:13:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to doing something\Ndifferent for their children
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.37,0:13:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than what they received.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.37,0:13:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John, would you like\Nto say -- John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.37,0:13:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Anything about the\Nconnections and opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.37,0:13:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for connections at the\Ndifferent developmental stages?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.86,0:13:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.86,0:14:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I think this is a great\Nkind of reflection on the history.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.99,0:14:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I -- the other day I\Nwas wondering, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.02,0:14:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what did fathers themselves\Nhave to do with this change?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.31,0:14:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think fathers themselves\Nare expecting more of programs
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.59,0:14:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because society as\Na whole has changed.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.22,0:14:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think, one of the\Nthings about expectations is
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.50,0:14:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it may feel really different\Nat different ages, what --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.78,0:14:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of connection\Nyou can make with a father
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.42,0:14:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he brings an\Ninfant to a program,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.42,0:14:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or when you do a home\Nvisit, is quite different
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.94,0:14:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than that father whose thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.47,0:14:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their four year\Nold as a ball player.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.74,0:14:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think there is a lot of\Ncomplexity to this process.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.20,0:14:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I also think that this\Nidea that somehow everybody --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.06,0:14:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that full engagement means really\Nthinking about every aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.60,0:14:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the program as being something\Nthat fathers are involved with
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.75,0:14:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it's not a\Ndistinct and separate thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.92,0:15:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's an important thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.92,0:15:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time there may be\Nsome things that are distinctly
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.92,0:15:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for fathers, and those\Nshouldn't end necessarily.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.12,0:15:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's a really good point.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.55,0:15:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah. David: So, as we\Nconsider what we mean or, sort of,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.59,0:15:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we're thinking about when we\Ntalk about moving from involvement
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.12,0:15:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to engagement, as you\Ncan see from this slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.74,0:15:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know a lot of times, in\Nmy experience sort of being
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.89,0:15:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a program, sort of leading\Nthe evolution of a program
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.70,0:15:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that became more father friendly,\Nconsulting with other programs
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.04,0:15:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were beginning or attempting\Nto start fatherhood initiatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.99,0:15:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Programs tend to gravitate\Nto do what comes easy
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.02,0:15:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what satisfies program's goals
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.86,0:15:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of actually having\Na fathers' event.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.53,0:15:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's not to say that\Nthese events are not meaningful
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.75,0:15:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they don't provide\Nopportunities for connectedness,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.54,0:15:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but tying the event to a process
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.80,0:15:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that facilitates ongoing\Nopportunities for connectedness
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.25,0:15:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and relationship building is\Nthe key with the goal in mind
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.96,0:15:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of learning about how you\Nknow fathers think and feel
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.54,0:16:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their role as parents\Nand what's important to them
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.05,0:16:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relationship to their\Nchild's development.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.61,0:16:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we are at a place where\Nwe want staff to extend themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.08,0:16:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and seek opportunities to connect.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.77,0:16:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's so many routines\Nand complimentary supports
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.59,0:16:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within Head Start that provide\Nopportunities to connect
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.53,0:16:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fathers that can result\Nin systemic, integrated
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.88,0:16:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and comprehensive services,\Nas shown on this slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.76,0:16:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we encourage you to dig
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.97,0:16:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the resources that's\Nbeing released this week
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.13,0:16:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and begin assessing your programs'\Ncurrent services, the intersections
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.17,0:16:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and or opportunities for\Nconnections with fathers, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.51,0:16:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at times of pickup and drop off.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.90,0:16:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, if families transition
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.33,0:16:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I know there's\Nthis process where a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.33,0:16:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of families transition into Head\NStart or Early Head Start initially
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.40,0:16:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in home-based and they move
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.40,0:16:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a center-based\Noption if that available.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.84,0:17:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a significant change in\Nthe amount of time that you have
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.68,0:17:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to communicate with families when\Nthey're in home-based juxtaposed
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.86,0:17:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to center-based during\Npickup and drop off.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.10,0:17:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, staff have to be really\Ncrafty about seizing the moments
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.39,0:17:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taking advantage\Nof those opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.39,0:17:13.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to communicate with families.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.11,0:17:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Can you go back?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.75,0:17:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.75,0:17:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Is it possible to go back?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.75,0:17:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.75,0:17:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Because I want to put\Nan X right there, alright.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.75,0:17:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.75,0:17:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: And there's some interesting\Nresearch on mothers and fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.89,0:17:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they drop off\Nkids at childcare.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.77,0:17:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of things they've found is\Nthat after a problem, I'm sure many
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.84,0:17:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of you have seen situations\Nwhere the child kind
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.71,0:17:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of has a hard time transitioning\Nin and cries and both the parent
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.74,0:17:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the child have difficulty.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.74,0:17:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in this research they called\Nup both mothers and fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.37,0:17:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like 10 minutes or so after\Nthey dropped the child off
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.100,0:17:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they found was that\Nwhen it was a problematic one,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.55,0:18:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it was a separation\Nissue, both mothers
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.76,0:18:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fathers were still upset.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.83,0:18:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were still really concerned.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.09,0:18:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The difference was, was that the\Nmothers typically had somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.07,0:18:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk to about it\Nand the fathers didn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.85,0:18:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, what David said\Nabout these particular times
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.41,0:18:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make a connection,\Nthat time when the,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.56,0:18:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the difficult drop off,\Nthat may be a great time
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.36,0:18:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build a connection\Nwith a father.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.21,0:18:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, you can move the slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.21,0:18:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Make a point.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.21,0:18:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: I just wanted to use the\NX. David: This is yours, John.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.16,0:18:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.16,0:18:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, and this kind of gets\Nto what I was talking about,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.16,0:18:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is these barriers to involvement\Nand engagement are different.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.26,0:18:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, involvement is, like,\Nwhat's getting in the way as far
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.48,0:18:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as just a physical thing, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.48,0:18:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it transportation?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.48,0:18:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it ability to make\Nit to the program?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.49,0:19:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all kinds of these almost\Nphysical kind of barriers,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.65,0:19:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas the barriers to true\Nengagement, to a true partnership
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.20,0:19:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fathers is really\Nmore internal.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.100,0:19:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more, what am I bringing\Nto these relationships?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.40,0:19:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do I believe that\Nthe father believes
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.24,0:19:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the program or\Nabout child rearing?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.56,0:19:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's more this internal\Nstuff that's in the way
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.37,0:19:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of fully engaging with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.37,0:19:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, when we get to\Nprofessional development,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.64,0:19:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what we're going\Nto want to think about.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.53,0:19:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, what is in\Nthe way of a father walking
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.38,0:19:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the threshold into a\Nprogram or actually participating
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.57,0:19:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a meeting when there's an issue?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.67,0:19:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think that we're moving\Nto thinking in a deeper way
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.31,0:19:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how we form\Nthese partnerships.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.92,0:19:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, so now we can\Nmove to the research.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.16,0:20:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Well John, before we move
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.26,0:20:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the research slide\N-- John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.38,0:20:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: I would just like to\Nadd a little conversation
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.34,0:20:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this last bullet.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.82,0:20:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.82,0:20:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, you're using the star.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.82,0:20:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see. David: Getting fancy here.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.69,0:20:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know this is where a lot of\Nthe work really happens with staff
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.19,0:20:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it relates to professional\Ndevelopment when we start
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.52,0:20:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about the barriers.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.52,0:20:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.52,0:20:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: I think it's important\Nfor us to really acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.52,0:20:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accept the fact\Nthat it is difficult
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.52,0:20:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it may take\Ntime and effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.88,0:20:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know in the fatherhood\Nresource that we're releasing today
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.55,0:20:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the ECLKC on page 22\Nthere's really nice quotes
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.82,0:20:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a staff member that speaks to\Nher beliefs about the father's role
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.39,0:20:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who she felt she should be\Ntalking to about child development.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.71,0:20:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how with good staff\Ntraining, peer support
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.77,0:21:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and supervision she was able to\Nchange her belief system and begin
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.26,0:21:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at other personal\Nand professional biases
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.88,0:21:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were affecting\Nher work with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.88,0:21:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.88,0:21:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's -- David: I think that's\Njust a really important point
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.88,0:21:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make that we know that this\Nwork there's some complex issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.19,0:21:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And moving from one place
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.37,0:21:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the next will take some\Ntime, energy and effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.49,0:21:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.49,0:21:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And David, so much of that\Nstuff thus sets the beliefs
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.93,0:21:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what my role as a parent\Nor my role in communicating
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.28,0:21:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a parent about which\Nissues is pretty deep stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.22,0:21:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not necessarily\Nconscious of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.22,0:21:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.22,0:21:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.22,0:21:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: It's something that's\Nculturally formed in us.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.22,0:21:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I think some of it\Nis just acknowledging that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.22,0:21:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bringing it to the surface.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.22,0:21:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah it's a really good point.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.22,0:21:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And the trust that\Nhas to be involved in terms
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.22,0:21:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the relationship with your\Nsupervisor to get to a place
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.22,0:21:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're actually beginning to\Nwrestle with some of those issues.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.22,0:21:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Exactly, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.22,0:21:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.22,0:21:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay, so the research says a\Nlot and to try to put the research
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.71,0:22:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on fatherhood on one\Nslide is very difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.68,0:22:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And before I get into\Nthis, I'd like to say
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.56,0:22:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this might feel\Na little offensive
Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.60,0:22:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to some people, and that's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.98,0:22:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, part of it is that\Nthis doesn't say anything
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.61,0:22:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about women really.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.87,0:22:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I say well, fathers\Nmake important contributions
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.73,0:22:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to children's development.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.73,0:22:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well that doesn't mean that mothers\Ndon't make the same contributions,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.26,0:22:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that mothers in some cases\Nmake the same contributions
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.22,0:22:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that fathers do, or some\Nfathers that mothers do.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.93,0:22:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think this you know it's\Nnot as like you know one --
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.67,0:22:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two sided as it may seem.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.13,0:22:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I just want to you know\Nmake that disclaimer first
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.73,0:22:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think this can start\Nfeeling like oh, dads do this
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.64,0:22:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mothers do this when,\Nin fact, it gets mixed
Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.28,0:22:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up a lot more than we might think.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.36,0:22:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first bullet is\Nmen are fully capable
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.91,0:23:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of nurturing young children.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.91,0:23:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.91,0:23:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know that throughout history.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.91,0:23:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Men have nurtured young children.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.91,0:23:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some societies men play a\Nlarger role in the nurturance.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.09,0:23:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In many societies that's\Nchanging, but men's brains respond
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.55,0:23:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a babies cry the same\Nway women's brains do.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.43,0:23:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same parts of the brain get\Nactivated when they hear a cry.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.59,0:23:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Society has helped them figure out\Nwhat to do when they hear that cry,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.28,0:23:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the neurological\Nphenomenon is the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.25,0:23:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Men naturally raise their\Nvoices to a higher pitch
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.96,0:23:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they're talking to infants.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.07,0:23:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, if you ask them\Nwhether they are they might say
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.69,0:23:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"no, I'm not doing that".
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.69,0:23:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, then they go "ooh\Nyeah, [inaudible]".
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.85,0:23:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know there are things\Nthat men are very capable
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.42,0:23:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of nurturing young children.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.42,0:23:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another point on this one is that\Nmen tend to look more nurturant
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.29,0:23:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with young children when\Nthere aren't women there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.05,0:24:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That when there's not, and I would\Nattribute it to well, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.74,0:24:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's some role definition\Ngoing on here and I'm going
Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.39,0:24:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you know play this role.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.39,0:24:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we find in general that\Nwhen there aren't women near,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.64,0:24:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men show more nurturance.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.64,0:24:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second bullet, and this\Ncould go on and on and on,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.91,0:24:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of this material is in\Nthe guide that David referred to,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.98,0:24:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fathers make important\Nvaried contributions
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.63,0:24:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to children's development,\Nregulation and self-control.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.79,0:24:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There -- the way they play with\Nyoung children causes children
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.69,0:24:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually control their\Nimpulses a little more
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.51,0:24:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or know what the limits\Nof that are.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.96,0:24:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We -- you know there's this\Ndiscussion of fathers tend
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.99,0:24:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to play more roughly\Nwith their children,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.21,0:24:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes mothers get a\Nlittle nervous about that,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.88,0:24:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even Head Start staff get\Na little nervous about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.30,0:24:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And certainly we don't want\Nthat to go too far and --
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.55,0:25:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the same time a\Ncertain amount of that is --
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.55,0:25:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helps the child gain\Nself-regulation.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.77,0:25:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Language development, well men\Ntend to make children work harder
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.65,0:25:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they say something.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.90,0:25:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the classic example is when the\Ntoddler goes to the refrigerator
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.54,0:25:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and goes "ju", like that, the\Nmother opens up the refrigerator,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.61,0:25:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets a cup and pours juice\Nwhereas the father goes "what?"
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.76,0:25:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the child goes "juice".
Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.07,0:25:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the father goes "oh,\Nyou want some juice".
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.55,0:25:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, like I said\Nthat's in general.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.61,0:25:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some mothers are going to be\Nmore like fathers that way,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.66,0:25:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some fathers more like\Nmothers, but in general kids
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.60,0:25:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the toddler period anyway have\Nto work harder with their language.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.25,0:25:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same is true for cognitive\Nand emotional development.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.65,0:25:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fathers have a distinct\Nimpact on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.47,0:25:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That active play with\Nfathers, nurturant play,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.55,0:25:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually supports cognitive\Nand emotional development
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.66,0:26:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's pretty strong\Nresearch evidence to support that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.56,0:26:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It, the -- in fact, the\Nrelationship between,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.55,0:26:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a different piece of\Nresearch, but the relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.61,0:26:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between a father and a child\Nis not necessarily measured
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.28,0:26:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by whether the child goes\Nto the father for security.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.81,0:26:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly in good\Nrelationships that happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.07,0:26:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, a better measure, better\Npredictor of the relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.85,0:26:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between a father and a child\Nis how they play together.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.22,0:26:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's something that\Nwe want to encourage.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.12,0:26:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the final bullet is well,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.18,0:26:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's good for a lot\Nof other things too.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.47,0:26:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When fathers are involved, when\Nother men are involved in the lives
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.43,0:26:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of mother's children, then\Nmothers can be better mothers.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.51,0:26:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can mother more\Neffectively and some
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.14,0:26:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that is economic, of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.57,0:27:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of it is, as with any of\Nus when we've got the support
Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.49,0:27:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of another person, we\Ncan do our jobs better.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.62,0:27:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fathers themselves report\Nthat when they're involved
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.23,0:27:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with their children, when they're\Nengaged with their children,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.46,0:27:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they feel better about themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.46,0:27:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's almost self-explanatory\Nand then society as a whole,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.26,0:27:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that are engaged in\Nfathering and men who are engaged
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.79,0:27:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fathering engage in less crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.94,0:27:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're more productive\Nmembers of society
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.97,0:27:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a number of outcomes.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.72,0:27:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's a lot of the research\Nin a nutshell and I don't think
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.79,0:27:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that most people on this call need\Nto be convinced of this in any way.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.82,0:27:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, it's nice to have some of\Nthese ideas so that we can kind
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.13,0:27:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of deepen our understanding of\Nwhat the effect of fathers is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.37,0:27:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the effect of being\Ninvolved in children's lives
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.95,0:27:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their programs is on fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.52,0:27:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.21,0:27:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Oh. Yeah go\Nahead David, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.71,0:28:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, with this particular\Nslide what we kind of wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.05,0:28:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do was to have our participants\Nthat have engaged in a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.04,0:28:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of interactive exercise.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.04,0:28:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sort of, if you can,\Nif you're willing,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.84,0:28:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a look at this picture and\Nthen just type into the chat sort
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.96,0:28:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what you see in this picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.77,0:28:28.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just kind of want to get a\Nfeel for sort of is there anything
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.07,0:28:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that strikes you as you're looking\Nat this father and this child?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.91,0:28:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you could take a\Nmoment to type into it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.82,0:28:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we're going to\Nuse the public chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.27,0:28:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, type into the chat\Nyour sort of reactions
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.79,0:28:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you see this picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.79,0:28:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we'll take a few\Nminutes to have you do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.52,0:29:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.22,0:29:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: John, is there anything else\Nyou wanted to say while they're --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.30,0:29:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while we're waiting for\Nsomeone maybe to type a --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.30,0:29:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Well, the picture\Nis so compelling.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.89,0:29:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hate to distract people.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.01,0:29:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I would -- if anything I've\Nsaid about the research was --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.42,0:29:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struck you as gee I don't really --\NI'd like to hear more about that,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.54,0:29:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would direct people to the\Nguide because there's a section
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.40,0:29:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the guide that kind of\Nsummarizes the research on fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.62,0:29:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in particular the contribution they\Nmake to children's development.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.76,0:29:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay, well it doesn't look\Nlike we have any brave souls.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.45,0:29:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, whoa here we go.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.45,0:29:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.45,0:29:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: There is -- thank you\Nso much Lada, a dear friend
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.95,0:29:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of mine, former colleague.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.95,0:29:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, hopefully she still\Nconsiders herself a colleague.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.95,0:30:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: She's -- she felt sorry felt\Nfor you and had to write something.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.43,0:30:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: I know, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.43,0:30:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She sees a picture of the\Nloving father with his child.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.34,0:30:11.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.34,0:30:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Very interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.34,0:30:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, is there anyone else out\Nthere that sees something similar
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.30,0:30:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something different\Nthat would be willing
Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.30,0:30:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share it with the group?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.46,0:30:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need one brave soul.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.46,0:30:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sam Gourlay: Actually this is\NSam Gourlay [assumed spelling].
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.15,0:30:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, we're having\Na little bit of an issue
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.75,0:30:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with public chat right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.75,0:30:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there are a lot of people that\Nare airing wonderful comments,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.74,0:30:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're unable to get them\Ninto the public chat area.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.74,0:30:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I apologize for this.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.74,0:30:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.74,0:30:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Can you see them, Sam?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.74,0:30:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see them?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.74,0:30:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sam: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.74,0:30:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to try to relate\Nthem through the private chat.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.74,0:30:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanking everyone for\Ndirecting them to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.74,0:30:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll try to push them in.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.74,0:30:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Awesome, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.74,0:30:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Great, great.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.74,0:30:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well maybe we can come back to\Nthat and move on with the slides.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.74,0:30:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to do that David or?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.74,0:31:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Yeah, that works.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.74,0:30:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.50,0:31:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, in this slide it's\Ngoing to be an opportunity for Ed,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.44,0:31:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John and myself to kind\Nof weigh in a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.70,0:31:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.70,0:31:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: I particularly like this\Nslide because it is illustrative
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.05,0:31:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our expanding definition\Nof the father's role.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.81,0:31:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've completely moved away\Nfrom men thinking of themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.39,0:31:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as solely financial providers.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.65,0:31:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each of these roles\Nhave specific meanings
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.93,0:31:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fathers given their past\Nexperiences, where they are
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.63,0:31:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their current lives,\Nwhere they are going
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.70,0:31:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course their maturity level.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.70,0:31:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll just start with\None of them and give John
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.54,0:31:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Ed an opportunity to chime in.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.85,0:31:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Advocating, you know, to me,\Nadvocating is what should you learn
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.50,0:31:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're an advocate\Nfor your child.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.50,0:32:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's one of those now and\Nforever roles, so John.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.75,0:32:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, you know it's\Nfunny, David, when you picked
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.70,0:32:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the advocate role because\Nyou immediately brought me back
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.18,0:32:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to when my daughter\Nwas born and she was
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.97,0:32:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the neonatal intensive\Ncare unit.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.71,0:32:19.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my job as a father at\Nthat time was to advocate
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.100,0:32:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the wellbeing of my child.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.100,0:32:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know it was to deal\Nwith this healthcare system
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.20,0:32:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I didn't understand\Nand was really angry at.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.04,0:32:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, you know there's that,\Nthere was the nurturer part
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.06,0:32:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that, the protector part\Nof that, but there was also,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.61,0:32:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like I had to advocate\Nfor my child.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.87,0:32:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to know something, and\Nso I appreciate you starting
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.05,0:32:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that one.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.05,0:32:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that I pick up on\Nis this friend-playmate
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.48,0:32:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's a very complex one.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.67,0:32:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know we tell fathers "well,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.76,0:32:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want to be the\Ndisciplinarian you can't be your
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.91,0:33:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,child's friend.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.91,0:33:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got to be the father.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.91,0:33:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got to be the discipline, the\Nperson that provides discipline."
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.14,0:33:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time, you know, there's\Na slash playmate and we know
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.17,0:33:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in the relationships\Nbetween fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.55,0:33:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their children is often\Na very playful relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.17,0:33:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that the child, as early\Nchildhood people we know,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.57,0:33:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the child learns through\Nthe process of play.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.13,0:33:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think that that one is,\Nthat one's got a lot of complexity
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.58,0:33:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to it, but it's one that we know\Nkind of fathers connect with.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.52,0:33:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's my two\Ncents on that one.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.57,0:33:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Awesome, Ed.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.57,0:33:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: Yeah I'm here.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.57,0:33:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would -- we had just\Ntalked about this earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.57,0:33:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was just talking to\None of the fathers here that,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.61,0:33:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or actually a grandfather,\Nabout some of these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.24,0:33:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we -- you know, a lot of\Nit has to deal with for us,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.78,0:33:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a native side,\Nis our core values.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.100,0:33:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, again, you know,\Nbuilding strength on the --
Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.64,0:34:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we incorporate culture,\Nceremony, traditions and healing
Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.35,0:34:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course humor is a big\Npart of you know native men
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.56,0:34:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course all men in general.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.69,0:34:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that -- we are\Nhoping that was going --
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.02,0:34:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the teaching that we do\Nthrough spiritual guidance is
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.08,0:34:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it help us, you know, increase\Nand strengthen family preservation.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.39,0:34:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what we're all kind\Nof looking for is offering
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.91,0:34:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that family preservation and\Nfor our children to continue
Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.97,0:34:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to offer those teachings as\Nthey become parents later on,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.40,0:34:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,role modeling some of\Nthose things especially.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.67,0:34:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, you know a lot of\Nit is creating a safe place
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.32,0:34:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for men you know to come and\Ntalk about these types of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.50,0:34:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of it sometimes\Ndoesn't always take place
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.32,0:34:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a [Inaudible] setting, but\Na lot of it also takes part
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.64,0:34:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at our fatherhood\Nprogram here at Laguna.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.43,0:34:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, it's again all about\Nstrengthening, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.43,0:34:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family relationships,\Nfamily involvement
Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.43,0:34:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just being a responsible father
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.02,0:34:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that again goes back\Nto the preservation.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.02,0:35:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.02,0:35:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: You know those are just some\Nof the things that we had talked
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.02,0:35:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about earlier, so -- John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.02,0:35:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other day, Ed, you also said\Nsomething about how in Laguna
Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.74,0:35:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the -- that men transmit\Ncertain things culturally
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.64,0:35:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the kids as the\Neducator in a sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.76,0:35:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: Right, right and that's -- a\Nlot of the cultural teachings come
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.86,0:35:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in from the [inaudible] side.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.86,0:35:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also includes planting because\Nthe planting doesn't only include
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.71,0:35:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just planting of a seed in\Nthe ground, but it also --
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.54,0:35:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a cultural teaching behind
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.54,0:35:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that where you're planting\Nother knowledge into a child
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.52,0:35:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know planting\Nthose important roles
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.54,0:35:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will be facing\Nas they become adults.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.91,0:35:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, those are some of the things\Nthat growing and nurturing
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.91,0:35:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those particular things.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.91,0:35:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Wow, right.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.91,0:35:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: You know, and John I\Nwas thinking a little bit too
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.34,0:35:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what you said you\Nknow with your daughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.17,0:35:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think one of the things\Nthat we don't always acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.03,0:35:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or allow ourselves\Nto sort of appreciate
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.41,0:36:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in men is they are afraid,\Nthat they're scared.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.71,0:36:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're scared of embracing\Nthe fatherhood role.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.67,0:36:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.67,0:36:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Embracing sort of the\Nexpanding definition of their role,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.22,0:36:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also afraid of\Nnegotiating systems.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.42,0:36:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't even imagine what it must\Nbe, feel like to have a daughter
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.87,0:36:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a neonatal intensive\Ncare unit and have
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.99,0:36:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to negotiate you know\Nall these professionals.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.36,0:36:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we, you know, as humans we\Ntend to rely on professionals
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.79,0:36:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make important decisions\Nthat impact our lives for us
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.10,0:36:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we trust that they\Nhave a particular expertise.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.94,0:36:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think that as we continue\Nto expand our understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.53,0:36:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how we need to be thinking about\Nworking with fathers it's okay,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.99,0:36:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important for us to realize\Nrather that they do become afraid.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.12,0:36:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are challenged by\Nfulfilling all the multiple roles
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.73,0:36:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're asking them to fulfill\Nand that these fears are very real
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.06,0:36:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them, and they have to\Nacknowledged and supported.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.28,0:36:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah that's great David.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.28,0:36:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean you're right on.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.09,0:37:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that of course when\Nyou're talking about fear in men
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.10,0:37:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and society you know we\Ndon't like to show it.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.78,0:37:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.78,0:37:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Right, we don't\Nnecessarily like to show our fears,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.17,0:37:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but probably if you\Nask most men who happen
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.93,0:37:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be fathers too what their\Ngreatest fear is they're not going
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.68,0:37:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say their own safety.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.68,0:37:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to say\Nfear for their child.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.70,0:37:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.70,0:37:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Which is probably\Nvery in common with women.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.98,0:37:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, its -- and, but do men\Nactually reveal their fears
Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.78,0:37:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same way?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.78,0:37:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do they talk about them?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.78,0:37:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's real\N[Inaudible] when you --
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.14,0:37:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a father actually will\Nsay, you know, that I'm afraid
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.03,0:37:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my child isn't going\Nto succeed in school,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.45,0:37:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or my child isn't going\Nto be accepted by peers,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.83,0:37:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever the issue is, then\Nyou're dealing with a passion
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.69,0:37:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes him a father.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.69,0:38:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you're nurturing the\Nnurturer when you can listen
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.26,0:38:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that and support that man.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.31,0:38:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if you're at the place\Nwhere a father is sharing some
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.74,0:38:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those fears with you in a way\Nthat's comfortable then I think
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.10,0:38:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've made real progress\Nin your relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.71,0:38:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that father, for sure.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.71,0:38:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That is a really\Nimportant point.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.71,0:38:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, so I think\Nwe had a few comments.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.82,0:38:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to move back\Nreally quickly -- John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.47,0:38:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: To the previous slide.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.47,0:38:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just want to share\Nwhat's interesting --
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.11,0:38:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lada sort of kicked this off\Nand she's obviously female.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.24,0:38:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, then we had three men\Ncomment and the comments were:
Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.55,0:38:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanting to stay connected; a\Nfather wanting to stay connected
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.14,0:38:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to his child; the importance of the\Nskin to skin contact between father
Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.73,0:38:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and child; and a man\Nshowing gentle love and care.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.44,0:38:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.44,0:38:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: All very positive,\Nwhich is great.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.44,0:38:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.44,0:38:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, I think we've\Ndone a good job of sort
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.44,0:39:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of getting people\Nexcited and getting them
Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.44,0:39:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to celebrate what we're doing
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.44,0:39:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having them feel really\Npositively about fatherhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.44,0:39:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Kiersten and I recently showed\Nthis slide and sort of used it
Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.03,0:39:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as part of our presentation
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.03,0:39:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Leadership Institute there\Nwas some different perceptions
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.98,0:39:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that came from a predominately\Nfemale audience,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.13,0:39:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was really interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.13,0:39:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the most part participants\Nwere supportive and they were able
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.32,0:39:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually look at the\Nstrength in the picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.95,0:39:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, then some of the participants\Nseemed like the father looked
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.14,0:39:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like he was uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.68,0:39:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't really know\Nwhat he was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.87,0:39:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The baby's face looks like\Nit's a little crunched
Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.48,0:39:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up in between his shoulder.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.48,0:39:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The baby looked uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.48,0:39:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean they took it to some\Nreally interesting places
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.48,0:39:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was almost as if they\Nwanted to take the baby out of
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.69,0:39:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that father's hands, which\Nwas really interesting to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.69,0:39:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a question for -- from\Nus to the group would be,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.39,0:40:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how would you help this\Nfather build upon what we see
Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.45,0:40:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the photo that is a strength?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.74,0:40:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there are some things that\Nnow that you're looking at it
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.21,0:40:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a different lens that you\Nwould want to sort of change
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.63,0:40:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or provide some support\Nand guidance around.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.50,0:40:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What might be the first thing\Nthat you would say to this guy?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.96,0:40:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's rhetorical.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.96,0:40:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not expecting you to answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.96,0:40:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, John you want to weigh in?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.96,0:40:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, I think -- I\Nmean any picture of a man
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.06,0:40:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a woman holding a child\Nevokes a pretty strong kind
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.01,0:40:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of just below the\Nsurface responses.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.92,0:40:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I mean you see a baby and\Nyou want to hold the baby.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.91,0:40:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see babies in supermarkets, and\NI try to steal them all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.90,0:40:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it's like it's\N-- there is a response.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.32,0:40:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a very -- and I\Nguess if you had a response
Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.60,0:40:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you didn't even put it down on\Npaper, or the computer I guess now,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.88,0:40:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is oh -- I would try to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.49,0:41:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that response before\Ndoing anything, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.21,0:41:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or as you're doing something.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.21,0:41:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, certainly I like,\NDavid, what you're saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.66,0:41:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so yea there's plenty that you can\Nsee in this picture to work from.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.01,0:41:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yeah, I -- actually\NI immediately go
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.81,0:41:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what you're asking.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.16,0:41:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like well, how would you\Nstart making a relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.15,0:41:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with his father based on\Nwhat you see right here?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.72,0:41:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.72,0:41:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah. David: And, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.72,0:41:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it's like just really\Nsimple basic questions that's going
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.83,0:41:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give you some insight\Ninto where this father is at.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.54,0:41:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's important to him?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.54,0:41:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How he might be thinking\Nin that moment?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.54,0:41:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, how does\Nthis feel for you?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.54,0:41:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you thinking when you hold\Nyour child so close in this way?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.47,0:41:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a particular reason\Nwhy you hold him that way
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.70,0:41:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it could be cultural?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.70,0:41:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, those are points,\Nquestions that will then begin
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.92,0:41:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to generate some really significant\Nconversations with that father.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.24,0:41:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah, great.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.24,0:42:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, we're going\Nto move and John
Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.20,0:42:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you -- John: Oh, look at this.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.20,0:42:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at this.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.20,0:42:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's good.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.20,0:42:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen this before.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.20,0:42:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Parent, Family, and\NCommunity Engagement Framework,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.20,0:42:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I assume that many of you
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.20,0:42:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the webinar have seen\Nthis very colorful graphic.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.63,0:42:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's -- I actually\Nreally like this Framework.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.58,0:42:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it puts together\Nexactly what it says that parent
Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.74,0:42:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and family engagement,\Nand you could --
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.26,0:42:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of parent and\Nfamily, you could put father
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.67,0:42:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in there, not without family.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.97,0:42:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not without the parent,\Nbut you could put father
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.55,0:42:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it would all still apply.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.66,0:42:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when father engagements\Nare systematic and integrated
Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.14,0:42:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across program foundations\Nand impact areas,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.82,0:42:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family outcomes are achieved.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.43,0:42:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, and then hence you're\Nworking on child outcomes.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.22,0:42:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, this progression\Nis interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.22,0:42:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I almost like\Nto think of this as,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.22,0:43:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the program foundations\Nthey're like the nervous system.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.70,0:43:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the brain.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.70,0:43:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the thing that sends\Nmessages to the whole body, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.21,0:43:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the program leadership is\Nlike yes, we believe in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.77,0:43:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My brain believes in\Nfather engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.93,0:43:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually reflect on my own\Nrelationship with my father,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.54,0:43:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to make it a\Npriority for this program
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.25,0:43:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these are the ways I'm\Ngoing to support everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.27,0:43:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that -- part of the\Npoint here is that everybody
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.31,0:43:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the system is engaging\Nwith fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.95,0:43:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same for continuous improvement\Nand professional development.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.92,0:43:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're kind of like --\Nthese are the things,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.92,0:43:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are the foundations.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.92,0:43:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are what makes\Na whole system work.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.92,0:43:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kind of see the program\Nenvironment that --
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.62,0:43:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the impact areas as\Nkind of the muscles
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.41,0:43:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the organs of\Nthe organism, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.100,0:43:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, these are things\Nthat get things done.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.54,0:43:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The partnerships with\Nfamilies, with fathers are
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.12,0:44:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we get things done.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.12,0:44:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teaching and learning, the\Npartnerships with other agencies
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.70,0:44:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and certainly creating\Na welcoming environment
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.51,0:44:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for fathers is a large\Npiece of what we need
Dialogue: 0,0:44:10.47,0:44:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do to send that message.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.95,0:44:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, if you notice along\Nthe top, the arrow, positive
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.18,0:44:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and goal oriented relationships.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.19,0:44:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I see that as the\Nblood in the system.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.79,0:44:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the circulatory system.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.79,0:44:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what keeps everything\Nrefreshed and going.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.19,0:44:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the metaphor\Ndoesn't work that well.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.50,0:44:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.50,0:44:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, the -- I don't want to\Nneglect that arrow at the top
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.27,0:44:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because for all these pieces\Nto work together, for this body
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.65,0:44:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work together, we've got to\Nreflect on our relationships
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.90,0:44:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with men who have their\Nchildren in our program.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.53,0:44:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we have to keep\Nthat blood flowing
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.32,0:44:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by constantly giving it\Noxygen, by refreshing it,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.36,0:44:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is through\Nour relationships
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.92,0:45:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these fathers whether\Nit's at the drop off,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.01,0:45:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's in -- at a picnic.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.18,0:45:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether it's sending a\Ndocument home or calling home.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.01,0:45:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether -- you know\Nin so many ways --
Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.83,0:45:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ed did you want to say something?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.83,0:45:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was that -- I just\Nheard somebody's voice.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.13,0:45:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so-- Edwin: No John\NI was muted there, sorry.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.37,0:45:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.37,0:45:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in any case, I think in\Nevery one of these elements
Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.50,0:45:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the outcomes you can\Nsee specific kind of things
Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.82,0:45:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can do with fathers, family\Nwellbeing as an outcome area.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.84,0:45:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, one of the things that\NI think I've seen in programs
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.03,0:45:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that do very well with fathers\Nis that they acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.18,0:45:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these men also need to\Nfeel good as men in our society
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.35,0:45:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're going to do\Na good job as fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.91,0:46:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, and we talked about this the\Nother day when we were planning
Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.15,0:46:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is an important\Npiece too.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.15,0:46:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't just mean that we\Nscrutinize fathers and expect them
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.31,0:46:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be nurturant and play\Nwith their children.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.57,0:46:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we also want\Nthem to be supported
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.34,0:46:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in who they are themselves and\Nhow they feel about themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.74,0:46:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as competent human\Nbeings in this society.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.67,0:46:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So -- Edwin: So -- John:\NYeah, go ahead Ed, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.77,0:46:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: Yeah, again just talking\Nabout the program leadership,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.86,0:46:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the continuous program improve --
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.86,0:46:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the things that\Nyou have up there.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.29,0:46:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's where we're at right\Nnow with supporting the fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.45,0:46:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in those things because, you\Nknow, again, the more you're --
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.84,0:46:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again it goes back into our core\Nvalues of what we just talked
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.74,0:46:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the strengths, to build\Nupon those strengths too
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.86,0:46:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for family preservation.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.24,0:46:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now within our\Nprocess, again,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.20,0:46:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since we've had this\Nfatherhood initiative,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.34,0:46:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've had some challenges,\Nbut still yet we're --
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.95,0:47:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the most important\Nthing is to try to make sure
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.32,0:47:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we encourage fathers to\Ncome in and be a part of their --
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.94,0:47:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole cycle for the educational\Npiece, school readiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.21,0:47:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.21,0:47:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: You know, again,\Nwe do that through --
Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.21,0:47:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a lot of dads now\Nthat are coming to program,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.14,0:47:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what they have to\Ndo with the fatherhood program,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.50,0:47:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's just making\Nmore making the men feel more
Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.93,0:47:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comfortable and setting -- by\Nsetting goals that they're able
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.50,0:47:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you know come up with the\Nfamily priority goal worksheet
Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.19,0:47:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screening tools.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.19,0:47:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, very involved\Nin ISSP or IEPs, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.19,0:47:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Involving parents in those\Nthings make them comfortable
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.65,0:47:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and help them engage, I guess,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.42,0:47:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more so in their child's\Nreadiness for school.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.91,0:47:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I just wanted\Nto interject that.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.92,0:47:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, that's great Ed.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.34,0:47:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was out in Laguna this\Nlast year we were looking
Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.77,0:47:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the transition\Nto school and you --
Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.04,0:48:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was an event in which\Nthe kindergarten teachers came
Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.29,0:48:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the program and each was\Nin a different classroom
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.03,0:48:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's a number\Nof elementary schools.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.33,0:48:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what was -- one of the\Nthings that was really striking
Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.57,0:48:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about that was I think there were\Njust as many men there as women.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.07,0:48:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could be wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.10,0:48:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I could be\Nprimed to look for that,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.24,0:48:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I felt that there were a lot\Nof men engaged, just as engaged,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.30,0:48:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having just as many conversations\Nwith these kindergarten teachers.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.67,0:48:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was great to\Nsee, but it was --
Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.95,0:48:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean you didn't\Nhave to look for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.16,0:48:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was there.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.16,0:48:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seemed very equitable.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.16,0:48:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.16,0:48:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, John we need to move on to the\N-- John: Okay, sorry, yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.16,0:48:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.16,0:48:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: So, a polling question.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.65,0:48:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.65,0:48:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.65,0:48:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.65,0:48:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.65,0:49:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Jones: And yeah,\NNatalie's going to load it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.65,0:49:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.15,0:49:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.58,0:49:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.08,0:49:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When thinking about\N-- David: Hey John --
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.08,0:49:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Do you want me to read it?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.08,0:49:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Yes, yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.08,0:49:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.08,0:49:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When thinking about father\Nengagement that is systemic,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.08,0:49:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,integrated and comprehensive I\Nwould say our program is beginning,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.74,0:49:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressing, thriving\Nand innovating, or stuck.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.39,0:49:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And go ahead and answer\Nthe question.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.52,0:50:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.08,0:50:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, can we see the results?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:41.80,0:50:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Oh, there they\Nare just as you asked.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.94,0:50:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that interesting?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.94,0:50:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Um hmm hmm.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.94,0:50:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: What's that mean\NDavid, that umm hmm hmm?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.37,0:50:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, 29 percent progressing,\Nthat's great.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.51,0:50:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That is really great.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.51,0:51:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.51,0:51:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And we have five percent\Nthat are thriving and innovating.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.47,0:51:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.70,0:51:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: What's going to be really\Nimportant post this webinar is
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.77,0:51:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that any of you out there who feel
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.91,0:51:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are stuck please do\Nnot hesitate to reach out to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.38,0:51:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's any way that we're going\Nto be able to provide some support
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.62,0:51:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and guidance for you that is one
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.62,0:51:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the main reasons why\Nwe're doing this webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.62,0:51:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For those of you that\Nare beginning, kudos.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.17,0:51:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hope that you're moving forward\Nin a really nice way and, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.20,0:51:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you move onto a place\Nwhere you're progressing
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.08,0:51:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're thriving and innovating.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.08,0:51:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But again, for all of you at\Nany stage of your evolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.12,0:51:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there's some way in which we can\Nbe supportive once you've looked
Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.100,0:51:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in at the resources that\Nwe're launching this week
Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.33,0:51:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have questions about\Nthem please reach out to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.52,0:51:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why we're here.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.81,0:51:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Natalie, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.81,0:52:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John. John: Yeah, I\Nactually mentioned some
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.73,0:52:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these things earlier that the\Nfoundations are essential here,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.38,0:52:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think the question that\Nwe just looked at is basically
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.94,0:52:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about continuous improvement.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.94,0:52:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, where are you in\Nrelation to engaging fathers?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.37,0:52:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mentioned that there's a lot\Nthat can be done in the leadership
Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.77,0:52:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a program to support.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.44,0:52:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if we go back to the\Nframework, we're thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.98,0:52:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a systemic and integrated thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.39,0:52:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that whole idea of a\Ndynamic system, an organization
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.75,0:52:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a system, the leadership within\Nthe system needs to be fully behind
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.39,0:52:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and engage with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.13,0:52:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's an important\Ncomponent of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.85,0:52:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My experience with this\Nis that often the programs
Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.81,0:53:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are thriving in relation\Nto this -- well first of all,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.52,0:53:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they almost always say --
Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.52,0:53:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the leadership almost always\Nsays we still have a ways to go.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:09.18,0:53:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then, I also find that there\Nreally is a personal commitment
Dialogue: 0,0:53:14.42,0:53:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the part of the director or the\Nmanager toward work with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.15,0:53:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not saying everybody\Nhas to make that their sole
Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.09,0:53:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and primary mission,\Nbut I think that when --
Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.70,0:53:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I found is that there's\Noften for the programs
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.49,0:53:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are thriving a real passion\Nin the leadership for this.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.63,0:53:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The continuous improvement,\Ngoing back to that, is --
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.22,0:53:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is part of this whole\Nidea of having a framework
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.31,0:53:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having a webinar like\Nthis and having the guide is
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.16,0:53:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can be intentional\Nabout what we do.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.85,0:53:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may feel that we're doing\Nvery good work with fathers,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.46,0:54:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you're doing it in a\Nsystemic way and an integrated
Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.39,0:54:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and comprehensive way that means\Nyou're doing it intentionally
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.45,0:54:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.45,0:54:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, that's when -- so yeah,\Nwhere were we five years ago?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.11,0:54:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are we now?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:11.11,0:54:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And where are we going?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.11,0:54:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What steps do we need\Nto take to get there?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.11,0:54:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Awesome.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.11,0:54:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.11,0:54:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, this next\Nslide sort of builds upon
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.11,0:54:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and expands upon the last\Npart of that previous slide,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.11,0:54:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sort of professional\Ndevelopment piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.11,0:54:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not to negate, sort of, the men\Nin the audience or in the rooms,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.10,0:54:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I want to speak sort of\Ndirectly to the women in the room.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.62,0:54:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, before I continue,\Nremember I was the one
Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.01,0:54:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said how instrumental\Nwomen have been in contributing
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.60,0:54:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the success of the\Nfatherhood movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.88,0:54:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, now you know I'm getting\Nready to be a little --
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.88,0:54:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, but --
Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.88,0:54:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Professional\Ndevelopment is so tricky.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.11,0:54:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't tell you.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.11,0:54:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've spent so much time, energy\Nand effort as a director,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.85,0:54:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supporting directors,\Nsupporting programs around getting
Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.13,0:55:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this piece of, if you're\Nreally going to do this work
Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.69,0:55:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that's systemic,\Nintegrated and comprehensive,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.36,0:55:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it begins with the leadership\Nunderstanding that there has
Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.24,0:55:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be this continuous\Nimprovement process.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.48,0:55:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is grounded and it begins\Nwith professional development.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.15,0:55:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this can be a really hard\Nconversation to have in programs
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.69,0:55:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I've never met a successful\Nfatherhood program that had a one
Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.48,0:55:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and done staff development\Nthat prepared the staff
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.61,0:55:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to adequately work with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.61,0:55:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.61,0:55:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: In my experience when\Nstaff have been trained and are
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.41,0:55:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on board it is synonymous\Nwith being involved
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.62,0:55:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the process of\Nsupporting fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.02,0:55:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very basic, show up\Nand we can dance.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.30,0:55:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, when they are on board\Nor willing to grow to do
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.18,0:55:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that self-assessment\Nand wrestle with some
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.22,0:55:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their own more deep seeded\Nissues and/or challenges,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.13,0:55:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are now engaged in the\Nprocess of engaging fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:56.55,0:55:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, just like we have\Nto help men get to a place
Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.69,0:56:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they were healthy enough\Nto confront their challenges,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.96,0:56:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to also help female\Nstaff be healthy enough to know
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.28,0:56:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they require\Nadditional supports.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.93,0:56:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this slide sort of speaks to\Nmy belief based upon my experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.18,0:56:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no research connected to\Nthis, that when staff have sort
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.65,0:56:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of said, "okay we're on board with\Nworking with expanding services
Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.67,0:56:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for fathers and supporting\Nand engaging fathers,"
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.67,0:56:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will engage in\Nconversations with them
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.84,0:56:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that takes them a little bit\Noutside of their comfort zone.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.56,0:56:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those conversations are going\Nto be extremely child-focused.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.61,0:56:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll be very specific.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.61,0:56:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to be so self-aware\Nof how they're communicating
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.68,0:56:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they're communicating.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.68,0:56:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're clinging to those\Nboundaries at an optimal distance.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:42.86,0:56:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those anchors are really, really\Nimportant, but once they move
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.10,0:56:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a place where they're a little\Nbit more engaged and again,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.30,0:56:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're doing the self-assessment,\Nthey're wrestling with some
Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.41,0:56:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their own deep seeded issues\Nand supervision or in therapy
Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.70,0:56:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if necessary, whatever\Nthe case may be,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.86,0:57:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they're a lot more comfortable\Nin terms of how they sort
Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.61,0:57:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of approach these\Nconversations with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.81,0:57:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John. John: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.29,0:57:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Was that you who put the X?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.29,0:57:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: You bet.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.29,0:57:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Oh, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.29,0:57:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: But, I'll wait till\Nthe elephant slide comes up.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:16.29,0:57:18.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.29,0:57:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: So, let's -- do\Nyou want to move to?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.77,0:57:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- yeah David: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.77,0:57:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: So we've got\Na polling question.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.77,0:57:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: We have another polling\Nquestion for you, because we want
Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.77,0:57:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to keep this interactive.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.77,0:57:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know that once we do\Nsomething that's a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.77,0:57:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provocative we might\Nget more responses.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.77,0:57:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Natalie, please\Nlaunch the first question.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.77,0:57:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll go ahead and read it\Nas she -- oh there it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.77,0:57:42.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How comfortable are you in\Nbuilding partnerships with fathers?
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.17,0:57:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very comfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.31,0:57:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am mostly comfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.35,0:57:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am somewhat comfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.98,0:57:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.98,0:57:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.98,0:57:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is sort of a way that\Nyou can sort of privately weigh in
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.66,0:58:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and chime in now on where you're\Nat with respect to this question.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.56,0:58:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll give you a couple\Nseconds for you to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.06,0:58:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.16,0:58:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Somebody's whispering.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.66,0:58:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.34,0:58:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: We have a lot of\Npeople, so we're going
Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.34,0:58:26.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give you guys a\Nlittle bit more time.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.42,0:58:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Ah, there it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.56,0:58:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Thank you so\Nmuch for calling in.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.89,0:58:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have results?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.89,0:58:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.89,0:58:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, it's taking my system a\Nlittle bit longer for them to show.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.89,0:58:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John, can you speak to them?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.89,0:58:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.89,0:58:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,23 percent of the people
Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.89,0:58:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the call are saying\Nthey're very comfortable,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:44.89,0:58:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 percent I am mostly\Ncomfortable, 10 percent somewhat,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.73,0:58:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1 percent I am uncomfortable, and\Nzero said I'm very uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.09,0:58:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what this is that people\Nseem to be in a pretty good place
Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.67,0:59:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with building partnerships\Nwith fathers for the most part.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.86,0:59:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that, yeah, really the\Nlarge majority are going I am
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.05,0:59:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly comfortable or above.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.27,0:59:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's great.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.56,0:59:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's great.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.56,0:59:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, being comfortable\Nand engaging --
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.56,0:59:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certainly the comfort level is\Nimportant to genuine engagement.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.10,0:59:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, as I said before,\Nit's not just comfort,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.09,0:59:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its intentional things\Nthat we do to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.17,0:59:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But -- David: Exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.17,0:59:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, let's move to the second\Npart of that polling question,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.44,0:59:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which actually speaks to competence\Nand the way you get to a place --
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.75,0:59:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think increasing competence goes\Nback to professional development.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.98,0:59:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this question says, have you\Nreceived professional development
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.96,0:59:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around building supportive\Npartnerships with fathers?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.08,0:59:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, we ask you\Nto please weigh in.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.80,0:59:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give you a few minutes to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.06,1:00:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have received extensive training.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.61,1:00:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have received some training.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.67,1:00:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have received a little training.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.76,1:00:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have received no training.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.26,1:00:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Background Noise ]
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.10,1:00:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay, Natalie can\Nyou do the honors please.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.30,1:00:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I think you're right on time.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.10,1:00:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow, so look at this John.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.23,1:00:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.23,1:00:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: A little bit different.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.23,1:00:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.23,1:00:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, like eight percent - so, of\Nthe respondents says this isn't --
Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.92,1:00:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this doesn't add up to 100 percent.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.92,1:00:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if this were 100\Npercent of the people
Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.40,1:00:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the call these numbers\Nwould actually be higher.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.47,1:01:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you -- like so 16, so 24\Npercent are saying "received little
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.14,1:01:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or no training" and that actually\Nprobably would need to be increased
Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.11,1:01:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we were looking at 100\Npercent because we're only talking
Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.22,1:01:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about maybe less than\N50 percent here.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.39,1:01:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's a pretty large portion\Nthat haven't had specific training.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.35,1:01:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: And again, what\Nthat could result in is,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.96,1:01:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once we have a better\Nunderstanding about what some
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.09,1:01:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the limitations are for\Nprograms around getting
Dialogue: 0,1:01:32.53,1:01:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that professional development,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.53,1:01:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is ways in which we\Nmay be instrumental
Dialogue: 0,1:01:36.54,1:01:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in providing some support\Nand guidance around that.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.84,1:01:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That sounds like we should\Nbe getting some inquiries
Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.73,1:01:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some questions around\Nhow programs might be able
Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.04,1:01:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build their capacity to do this.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.04,1:01:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, I think that\Nboth parts of this question,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.38,1:01:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also a reflection\Nof who called in.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.45,1:01:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Yes, oh go ahead.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.45,1:01:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: So, we've got people on\Nthe webinar that have an interest
Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.17,1:02:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps even a comfort\Nwith working with fathers.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.11,1:02:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not surprising that they would\Nwant or expect a little bit more
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.15,1:02:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in professional development.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.15,1:02:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Exactly.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.15,1:02:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.15,1:02:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Okay, so the\Nsocial worker in me,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.15,1:02:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I would not actually be\Ntrue to the social worker
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.15,1:02:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within me -- John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.15,1:02:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: If I didn't ask you\Nto dig a little bit deeper
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.15,1:02:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a few rhetorical questions.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:24.87,1:02:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're up on the screen.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.33,1:02:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when we talk about what\Ndoes it mean to really connect
Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.88,1:02:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fathers, some questions\Nthat come to mind is,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.02,1:02:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the potential benefits?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.02,1:02:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What, if any, are the costs?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.54,1:02:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What might be some\Nunintended consequences?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:40.01,1:02:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And are there any other\Npotential concerns?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.84,1:02:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Uh huh.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.84,1:02:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: So, for me, just\Nto prompt some discussion,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.84,1:02:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think benefits are --\Nyou have the opportunity
Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.98,1:02:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to receive another parent's\Nperspective on child development
Dialogue: 0,1:02:54.45,1:02:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what's important to them\Nas it relates to their child.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.72,1:03:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have opportunities to increase\Nstaff competency and capacity
Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.04,1:03:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to communicate with\Nand support fathers.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.29,1:03:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you're also\Nincreasing fathers comfort being
Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.16,1:03:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the program environment.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.93,1:03:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more comfortable they\Nare in the environment,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.52,1:03:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more willing they are to engage
Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.80,1:03:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the various activities\Nthat are offered.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.47,1:03:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are some of the costs?
Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.98,1:03:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well again, we sometimes\Npush and encourage staff
Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.60,1:03:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work outside of\Ntheir comfort zone.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.60,1:03:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want them to be\Nintentionally different,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.53,1:03:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not necessarily\Nalways easy to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.54,1:03:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want them to be okay\Nwith the time that it takes
Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.18,1:03:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for programs to transition.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.18,1:03:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we don't talk\Nenough about this.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.18,1:03:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you go from starting\Nto progressing to innovating.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.81,1:03:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are sort of three\Ndifferent points of intersection,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.24,1:03:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there could huge chasms between\Nwhat it means to go from starting
Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.06,1:03:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to progressing, from\Nprogressing to innovating.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:58.75,1:04:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And few programs I've seen\Nare at that innovative place.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.65,1:04:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some aspects of what\Nthey do may be innovating,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.77,1:04:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not as an entire program.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:06.09,1:04:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ed, you had talked as we\Nwere preparing for this
Dialogue: 0,1:04:09.49,1:04:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about some unintended consequences.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.49,1:04:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to speak to\Nthat a little bit?
Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.40,1:04:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: The intended\Nconsequences, oh God.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.70,1:04:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't remember where\NI was at with that.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.70,1:04:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were just sitting there\Ntalking about different things.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:21.70,1:04:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think -- David: You were --\NI can just prompt you a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:24.08,1:04:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were talking about some of the\Nreaction of some of the mothers
Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.17,1:04:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and -- Edwin: Oh yeah, exactly.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:31.31,1:04:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I know that\Nwhen I first came
Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.85,1:04:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the program there was\Nreally nothing geared to fathers,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.43,1:04:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was the whole\Ninitiative behind this.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.43,1:04:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, now that the strength of the\Nfathers has started to come in,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:41.06,1:04:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the women were feeling\Na little bit left out and again,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.12,1:04:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's where the consequences were.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.12,1:04:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, you know it's hard to\Njust, you know, really, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.26,1:04:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to focus on just 100\Npercent of either or.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.48,1:04:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know, that was kind of\Na challenge that we're facing.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.13,1:05:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, the women started their\Ngroup up again, and again,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.51,1:05:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, it's good and\Nit's all well and good.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.83,1:05:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all work together as a team,\Nbut again, you know, it was like --
Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.62,1:05:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the women were feeling\Na little left out of the loop
Dialogue: 0,1:05:11.01,1:05:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because more dads -- we were\Nactually having a lot more dads
Dialogue: 0,1:05:14.07,1:05:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming into program and, you know,\Nbefore when it used to be kind
Dialogue: 0,1:05:18.34,1:05:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of pretty much women-based.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.34,1:05:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even going on further out of\Nthe Head Start program, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:23.82,1:05:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see a lot more fathers now at\NWIC, Child Find, all those things.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.42,1:05:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I don't -- I'm not\Ngoing to say it's entirely
Dialogue: 0,1:05:30.55,1:05:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of our fatherhood program,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.56,1:05:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think that men are feeling\Nmore comfortable and in coming
Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.39,1:05:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into these types of environments.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.39,1:05:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, it's -- yeah I\Nthink that it's a challenge
Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.47,1:05:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it takes some skill\Non the part of a staff person
Dialogue: 0,1:05:46.82,1:05:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when both the parents are there.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.82,1:05:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who do you talk to?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:50.82,1:05:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you're talking\Nto the father --
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.82,1:05:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually know a mother\Nwho told me this is --
Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.12,1:05:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why are you talking to him?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.44,1:05:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know the answers\Nto your questions.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:59.84,1:06:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.84,1:06:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, you get into those\Nkind of gate keeping kind
Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.22,1:06:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of issues around the child.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:07.22,1:06:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's harder to talk to two\Npeople at once then to one.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.94,1:06:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think the consequences\Nare kind
Dialogue: 0,1:06:13.55,1:06:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of professional development\Nconsequences
Dialogue: 0,1:06:15.55,1:06:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and skill consequences\Non top of it, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:19.09,1:06:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Any other potential\Nconcerns, John, that you would --
Dialogue: 0,1:06:22.59,1:06:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Well, it may actually, and\Nthat brings up the next slide.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.77,1:06:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, in dealing with men\Nwho are nurturing young children,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.71,1:06:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there may be some\Nelephants in the room.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.25,1:06:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, maybe I just stop\Nfor a moment and --
Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.97,1:06:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is an awful cute\Nelephant though David.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.04,1:06:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's -- David: It is.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.35,1:06:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: It is Dave.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:47.35,1:06:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: But, this, you know, what\Nis the elephant in the room?
Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.86,1:06:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is there between women who\Ncare for young children and men,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:57.64,1:07:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who come into the program, who\Nare the fathers of those children,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.72,1:07:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the men in the mothers\Nof those children's lives?
Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.73,1:07:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the larger kind of elephant\Nin the room, in my opinion,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.48,1:07:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in having done a lot of this work\Nover the years, is that all of us,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.66,1:07:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men and women, have, kind of,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.06,1:07:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,previous relationships\Nwith men in our lives.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:26.74,1:07:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, whether it's our\Nfathers, or whether it's that game
Dialogue: 0,1:07:29.97,1:07:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that so many people play from early\Nadolescence on, and in high school
Dialogue: 0,1:07:36.68,1:07:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about relations between the\Nsexes, in that those dynamics
Dialogue: 0,1:07:41.42,1:07:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how you talk to men period can\Nenter into a conversation about --
Dialogue: 0,1:07:50.61,1:07:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have kind of under the\Nsurface when you're talking
Dialogue: 0,1:07:52.97,1:07:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the care of a child.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.97,1:07:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I think it's raising that\Nelephant in the room, kind of,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.52,1:08:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as David has portrayed it, as not\Nnecessarily operating all the time
Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.79,1:08:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or preventing good\Ncommunications from happening.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.76,1:08:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think we do have to\Nacknowledge that the game,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:12.66,1:08:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the various kind of communications\Nthat go on between men and women
Dialogue: 0,1:08:16.64,1:08:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our society often involve the --
Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.13,1:08:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, other things than\Ncaring for young children.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:24.34,1:08:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, to bring that to\Nawareness is probably an important
Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.30,1:08:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of a professional\Ndevelopment program.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.53,1:08:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: It really is.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:33.94,1:08:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just I think really a few\Nother important things to add
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.80,1:08:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to it you've already said.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.80,1:08:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know this brings\Nup sort of implications
Dialogue: 0,1:08:41.91,1:08:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how you support families,\Nparticularly fathers,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.32,1:08:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around substance abuse issues\Nand domestic violence issues
Dialogue: 0,1:08:50.54,1:08:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even just fear issues\Nof what it means to connect
Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.03,1:08:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and build a relationship\Ngiven the sexual tension
Dialogue: 0,1:08:57.64,1:08:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that takes place between\Nmen and women.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.64,1:09:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.64,1:09:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: David.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:03.64,1:09:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.64,1:09:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: This is Ed.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:07.64,1:09:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, just talking\Nabout the elephant,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:09.64,1:09:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think from the native perspective\Nalso again, a lot of it has to do
Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.64,1:09:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our historical traumas.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:13.64,1:09:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know again, you're looking\Nback at what men versus women,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.64,1:09:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what their -- what we're --\Nwhat is culturally appropriate
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.30,1:09:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at that time.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:21.30,1:09:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Right.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.30,1:09:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin: That's some\Nof the major impacts
Dialogue: 0,1:09:25.30,1:09:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of some of our programs here.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:27.30,1:09:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know [inaudible] that you\Nknow the elephant is right there
Dialogue: 0,1:09:29.30,1:09:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on your back, you know.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:31.30,1:09:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, that's where we're --
Dialogue: 0,1:09:33.30,1:09:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we have a lot of\Nthese social emotional issues.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:35.30,1:09:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, all the economic health and\Nwellbeing of our children are kind
Dialogue: 0,1:09:37.30,1:09:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of compromised because of sometimes\Nthose cultural -- I'm not --
Dialogue: 0,1:09:41.25,1:09:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a sense inadequacies, or I don't\Nknow if that's the right term,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:45.30,1:09:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's something\Nthat sometimes we kind
Dialogue: 0,1:09:48.08,1:09:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of have to face here in Laguna.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.18,1:09:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Oh.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.18,1:09:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Yeah. David: Okay, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:55.18,1:09:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we will move along.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:58.19,1:10:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John, this is you.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.11,1:10:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: Yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:04.11,1:10:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that this area -- and I\Nlove these pictures by the way.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:09.22,1:10:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The -- look at the engagement.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:12.33,1:10:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at like the man, the woman
Dialogue: 0,1:10:15.21,1:10:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the kids all paying\Nattention to the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.27,1:10:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much learning is\Nhappening when you see that.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:20.94,1:10:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just love the\Npicture down below.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:24.44,1:10:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see how the kids just --
Dialogue: 0,1:10:26.44,1:10:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this child that's on\Nthe carpet is just
Dialogue: 0,1:10:28.44,1:10:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like loving looking up at this guy.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:30.45,1:10:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what he's\Nsaying, but it's --
Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.40,1:10:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he certainly has engagement\Nfrom the children right there.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:37.10,1:10:42.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The program environment, I think,\Nyou might ask the fathers what it's
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.100,1:10:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to walk into your program.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.100,1:10:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The experience of a father\Nwalking into a program
Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.85,1:10:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with young children\Nthat's designed by women,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:50.10,1:10:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've got numerous slides\Nof program environments,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:54.94,1:10:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can put them up there and\Nsay, you know, "is this comfortable
Dialogue: 0,1:10:57.84,1:10:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for most men to walk into".
Dialogue: 0,1:10:59.84,1:11:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The step across the threshold
Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.84,1:11:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the program may feel\Nvery different -- David: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.81,1:11:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: -- for a man.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:06.81,1:11:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think it's very\Nvaluable to think
Dialogue: 0,1:11:08.81,1:11:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about you know is this a\Nwelcoming environment for a man?
Dialogue: 0,1:11:11.64,1:11:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't mean you have\Nto have like deer heads
Dialogue: 0,1:11:13.64,1:11:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the wall or anything.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:15.64,1:11:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it means is you know\Nhaving pictures of men,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:20.25,1:11:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having the size seats\Nsomewhere that they can fit in.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:24.03,1:11:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And really, I think, you\Ncan probably go to men
Dialogue: 0,1:11:26.80,1:11:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have them walk in and see.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.87,1:11:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, it's almost less a physical\Nenvironment than it's the, kind of,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:33.75,1:11:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interpersonal environment.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.75,1:11:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, that goes back
Dialogue: 0,1:11:37.75,1:11:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the relationships\Non the framework slide.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:40.05,1:11:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is -- is it a welcoming\Nplace when a man walks
Dialogue: 0,1:11:44.17,1:11:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the door with a child.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.79,1:11:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since most of you said you were\Ncomfortable you probably have those
Dialogue: 0,1:11:52.52,1:11:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places, but it's something again to\Nbe -- to think intentionally about.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.50,1:12:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I -- the other one that's circled\Nhere is teaching and learning
Dialogue: 0,1:12:05.08,1:12:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I already addressed\Nthe pictures.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:07.56,1:12:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, when men come into\Nvolunteer the classroom,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.90,1:12:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their interactions may\Nlook a little different
Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.31,1:12:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than you would expect\Nwhen a mother comes in.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:16.39,1:12:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The instruction may\Nnot be quite as direct.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:19.09,1:12:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might a little bit wilder.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:22.27,1:12:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not to say that some women\Nwon't come in and be quite loud
Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.68,1:12:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they come into the classroom.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.68,1:12:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I certainly have seen that.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:31.68,1:12:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, the frame is different.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.35,1:12:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The interactions may look a\Nlittle different and they,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:37.51,1:12:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I pointed out in\Nthe research slide,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:39.53,1:12:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those kind of interactions\Nhave benefits for kids as well.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:42.68,1:12:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Awesome.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:44.68,1:12:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so now we have the distinct\Npleasure of having Edwin Cheromiah,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:52.92,1:12:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sr. talk specifically\Nabout what all this looks
Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.72,1:12:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like within the context\Nof a program.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.40,1:13:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, Ed I'm going to\Nturn it over to you.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:01.66,1:13:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin Cheromiah, Sr.:\NAlright, thank you very much,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.15,1:13:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thank you for having me.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:06.15,1:13:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do appreciate it.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:08.15,1:13:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, this is just, kind\Nof, a picture of, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:10.44,1:13:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good feelings at the Head\NStart with the rainbow showing,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.91,1:13:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depicting you know that\Nchildren are very important,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.80,1:13:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sacred in our lives here\Nat the Head Start program.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.68,1:13:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just have a few\Nslides here just too kind
Dialogue: 0,1:13:23.97,1:13:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of depict some of those things.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:27.94,1:13:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] okay.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.94,1:13:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were talking about all the\Nthings that we have just talked
Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.94,1:13:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about coming from the\Nbeginning of the slides.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:34.71,1:13:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here are things that we're\Nattempting to do here
Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.03,1:13:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the program is to\Nmake sure that we ensure
Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.83,1:13:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we support fathers\Nin every way.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.01,1:13:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, a lot of that has\Nto deal with, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:44.89,1:13:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making them feel comfortable.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.89,1:13:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The picture on the upper left\Nhand corner there is a picture
Dialogue: 0,1:13:52.05,1:13:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of just some dads who were\Nhelping with an activity,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:56.80,1:13:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I believe it was\Nour Easter activity.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.65,1:14:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, the dads are\Ncoming in doing that more because,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.94,1:14:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, the teachers are more\Nengaging with their fathers
Dialogue: 0,1:14:08.09,1:14:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they're coming and they're\Nmaking them feel comfortable,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.76,1:14:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that they\Nare important part
Dialogue: 0,1:14:13.49,1:14:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their child's upbringing\Nand wellbeing.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:16.75,1:14:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, we always encourage\Nparents, dads, to come in
Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.33,1:14:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and show their talents and that was\Njust a picture they had taken of me
Dialogue: 0,1:14:26.57,1:14:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I was talking to\Nthe kids about music.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:29.76,1:14:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's other things that\Nwe do in the culturally --
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.70,1:14:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cultural way of\Nthings, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.04,1:14:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our cultural traditional dances.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.33,1:14:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We encourage dads to come in and\Nsing songs for their parents.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:41.47,1:14:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry, sing songs\Nfor their kids.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:43.90,1:14:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are helping making the --
Dialogue: 0,1:14:46.19,1:14:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our traditional costumes\Nfor the dances.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:50.04,1:14:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're making -- the teachers\Nare absolutely making them,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.81,1:14:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, feel comfortable here.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:54.81,1:14:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course we always have the\Nchallenges all the time still yet,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.08,1:15:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think that's\Nalso helping them
Dialogue: 0,1:15:01.08,1:15:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with helping the men set\Ngoals, set priorities.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:07.06,1:15:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also again, you know if\Na child comes in with an IEP
Dialogue: 0,1:15:12.60,1:15:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or [inaudible] you know the dads\Nare more comfortable knowing
Dialogue: 0,1:15:15.84,1:15:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can do these\Nthings for their kids.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:19.36,1:15:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like I said, we include\Nfathers in classroom activities.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:23.85,1:15:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have literacy programs to --
Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.85,1:15:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where dads are coming in\Nand reading to the children.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:28.46,1:15:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's also programs to where\Nwe're teaching Keres language
Dialogue: 0,1:15:33.18,1:15:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the kids and we have actually\Nin our program one, two -
Dialogue: 0,1:15:37.56,1:15:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two teachers that actually speak\N-- teach the Keres language.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:41.68,1:15:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we also have two\Ncustodians and a male cook.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:45.16,1:15:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're starting to get\Nmore male involvement
Dialogue: 0,1:15:48.08,1:15:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of just the comfort\Nlevel that they feel right now.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:51.97,1:15:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, all of it is just to\Nensure that the kids are ready
Dialogue: 0,1:15:57.01,1:15:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the next level of education.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:00.09,1:16:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, on the -- we --
Dialogue: 0,1:16:02.09,1:16:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also coordinate a\Nmonthly fatherhood night.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:06.01,1:16:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what we call them, just\Nsimply as that, fatherhood nights.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:09.48,1:16:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have a grandparent here, if\Nyou don't mind, I'd like for him
Dialogue: 0,1:16:12.83,1:16:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to kind of give an idea\Nof you know is perspective
Dialogue: 0,1:16:15.37,1:16:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on our fatherhood nights.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:17.44,1:16:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wilbur Lockwood: Yeah, I'm Wilbur\NLockwood, and I'm a grandparent
Dialogue: 0,1:16:21.99,1:16:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fatherhood\Norganization here in Laguna.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:24.98,1:16:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they been very instrumental\Nto spelling out different things
Dialogue: 0,1:16:31.44,1:16:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that need to be possibly addressed,\Nnot only traditionally wise,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:37.26,1:16:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but how we can go ahead and\Nbe a better parent, I guess,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:41.84,1:16:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what it is, you know.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.84,1:16:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nowadays we've got a lot of young\Nparents out there with kids that,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:49.51,1:16:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really, they don't know how\Nto run or raise as a family.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:55.32,1:17:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, in order to do that then we,\Nyou know, we all sit down together
Dialogue: 0,1:17:02.07,1:17:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and offer suggestions of what\Nwe need to do, maybe possibly
Dialogue: 0,1:17:08.06,1:17:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to better each other in raising\Nour kids or grandfathering,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:13.05,1:17:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grandmothering our kids and also
Dialogue: 0,1:17:15.92,1:17:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can have a\Nproductive life when --
Dialogue: 0,1:17:19.09,1:17:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether they leave the reservation\Nor not, and go out into the world,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:25.64,1:17:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like when Ed\Nmentioned about seed planting.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:28.30,1:17:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, that's one of the things\Nthat we try to stress that life is
Dialogue: 0,1:17:33.23,1:17:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a seed, you put\Nit in the ground
Dialogue: 0,1:17:35.23,1:17:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it grows and spreads out.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:37.67,1:17:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's basically how our life\Nis, is you know we put ourselves
Dialogue: 0,1:17:46.53,1:17:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the pedestal and let our\Nparents teach us different things.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:51.70,1:17:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not necessarily we try to\Navoid all the bad stuff, but still
Dialogue: 0,1:17:56.70,1:18:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet you know somehow, somewhere\Nthey get in there and all.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:01.56,1:18:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we try to tell the fathers,\Nyou know, try to live as an example
Dialogue: 0,1:18:07.54,1:18:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your own kids\Nand love your kids.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:09.54,1:18:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know it's not, not to\Na point to where you --
Dialogue: 0,1:18:13.68,1:18:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's embarrassing when you go\Nup to your child and hug them
Dialogue: 0,1:18:16.92,1:18:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or give them a kiss on\Nthe cheek or whatever
Dialogue: 0,1:18:20.25,1:18:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, you know, "I love you".
Dialogue: 0,1:18:22.44,1:18:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all the sudden we see\Nthat on the reservation
Dialogue: 0,1:18:25.87,1:18:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's not part\Nof us really and all.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:29.44,1:18:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, you know Ed has gone out\Nof his way, I think anyway,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:34.24,1:18:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really try to stress that\Nto us fathers out there;
Dialogue: 0,1:18:38.10,1:18:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his nightly meetings that\Nhe has every month and all.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:43.27,1:18:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we could get more\Nfathers in there,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:46.73,1:18:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think basically we can have a\Nbetter working relationship among
Dialogue: 0,1:18:51.95,1:18:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each other and among\Ntheir own families
Dialogue: 0,1:18:54.92,1:18:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out there in the community.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:56.92,1:18:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin Cheromiah, Sr.: Right,\Njust some of the things
Dialogue: 0,1:18:58.92,1:19:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've been doing along\Nthem with our father program.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:00.92,1:19:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, the expected\Noutcomes, of course,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:02.92,1:19:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to overcome some\Nof the barriers.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:04.92,1:19:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this, kind of, picture\Ndepicts some of those things,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:06.92,1:19:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overcoming barriers to\Nimprove positive involvement
Dialogue: 0,1:19:10.28,1:19:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our children.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:12.28,1:19:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something just called a\Njackrabbit shuffle that, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:15.28,1:19:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was created by Dr.\NClayton Small in the Road
Dialogue: 0,1:19:17.90,1:19:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Life curriculum,\Nwhich we also use here.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:20.37,1:19:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also it's culturally\Nappropriate.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:24.20,1:19:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's educational, especially,\Nyou know, again, it helps.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:28.20,1:19:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it helps,\Nespecially if it's --
Dialogue: 0,1:19:30.20,1:19:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the parent coming in for\Nthe first time seeing these things,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:33.56,1:19:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how important it is to drop\Nsome of those barriers.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:36.02,1:19:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, that's all\Nto increase, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:39.08,1:19:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just fatherhood involvement.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:41.77,1:19:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are also developing\Nfathers and cultural fathers
Dialogue: 0,1:19:46.62,1:19:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and children's cultural\Ndevelopment.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:50.14,1:19:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This particular slide\Nhere is a father.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:52.49,1:19:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This father is teaching\Nthese children our annual --
Dialogue: 0,1:19:56.56,1:20:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's called a -- it's\Ncalled the Corn Dance.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:00.33,1:20:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's, again, going back into\Npreservation of our livelihood
Dialogue: 0,1:20:05.10,1:20:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hoping and praying for\Nrain so that we can plant --
Dialogue: 0,1:20:08.97,1:20:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the seed has been planted\Nwill continue to grow
Dialogue: 0,1:20:11.60,1:20:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also flourishes\Nback into the children.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:13.94,1:20:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, those are some of the things\Nthat we've been really working
Dialogue: 0,1:20:17.34,1:20:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at here at the Laguna\NHead Start Program.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:19.79,1:20:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, this is just a group\Npicture of some of the guys
Dialogue: 0,1:20:23.34,1:20:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been here\Nthroughout the years.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:26.71,1:20:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This guy in the center holding\Nthe ribbon has been a very
Dialogue: 0,1:20:29.88,1:20:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instrumental part.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.88,1:20:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He no longer has children\Nhere at Head Start
Dialogue: 0,1:20:33.88,1:20:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but continues to come back.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:35.88,1:20:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was one of the guys back in\N'04 that started the whole program.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:38.47,1:20:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the guy off to the\Nleft-hand side behind him
Dialogue: 0,1:20:41.07,1:20:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the back row there with the cap,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:43.07,1:20:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the big guy with the big\Ncheesy smile, he's also.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:45.60,1:20:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the guy also, kind of, with\Nhis hand over his shoulder is a --
Dialogue: 0,1:20:51.13,1:20:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh wow, what's happening?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:53.31,1:20:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did something there.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:55.31,1:20:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How I'd get out of that?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:57.31,1:20:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That's alright\Njust go ahead.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:59.31,1:21:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Edwin Cheromiah, Sr.:\NHe's one of the guys --
Dialogue: 0,1:21:01.31,1:21:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are the men that have really\Npushed this program along before he
Dialogue: 0,1:21:04.26,1:21:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to Head Start.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:06.26,1:21:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was first done under the,\Nthe -- what was it called now?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:08.65,1:21:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The oh, PFS, Partners\NFor Success Program,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:12.77,1:21:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they eventually\Ncame here to Laguna.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:15.18,1:21:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But right now this -- our mission\Nstatement kind of says that all --
Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.36,1:21:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,summarizes everything\Nthat we're trying
Dialogue: 0,1:21:20.36,1:21:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do here at Laguna Head Start.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:22.36,1:21:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our mission is just this,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:24.90,1:21:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mission at Laguna\NFatherhood Group is
Dialogue: 0,1:21:27.15,1:21:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support fathers interested\Nin contributing their skills
Dialogue: 0,1:21:32.37,1:21:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and resources for the development\Nof their children at home,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.12,1:21:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the community and school\Nsettings, all the things
Dialogue: 0,1:21:37.52,1:21:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've been just, kind of,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:39.52,1:21:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about all\Nthroughout the whole slides.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:41.52,1:21:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, again that's kind of\Nwhat we do here at Laguna.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:44.54,1:21:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there's any, you know --
Dialogue: 0,1:21:46.54,1:21:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would encourage\Nanyone to give us a call
Dialogue: 0,1:21:48.54,1:21:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can always talk a\Nlittle bit more about this.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:51.25,1:21:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, that's kind of\Nmy presentation there.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:53.86,1:21:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:55.86,1:21:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Yep, one more.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:57.86,1:22:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay, oh this is the\NFather Engagement Resources?
Dialogue: 0,1:22:02.83,1:22:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiersten: Yep.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.83,1:22:07.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think -- this is Kiersten,\Nand I know we're wrapping up.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:08.16,1:22:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're probably going to go a couple\Nminutes over for those of us --
Dialogue: 0,1:22:10.82,1:22:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those of you who want to stick\Naround for another five minutes.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:15.61,1:22:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We -- I want to just let you know\Na little bit about the resources
Dialogue: 0,1:22:19.46,1:22:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we keep referring to.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.54,1:22:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Head Start Father\NEngagement Birth
Dialogue: 0,1:22:23.74,1:22:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Five Programming\NGuide just came out today
Dialogue: 0,1:22:26.38,1:22:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an information\Nmemorandum to all programs.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:28.92,1:22:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Las Manos de Apรก is a set of\Nresources for programs for working
Dialogue: 0,1:22:34.33,1:22:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Latino fathers around\Nsupporting their relationships
Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.40,1:22:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with their young children,\Nparticularly around literacy.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:40.24,1:22:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's support group\Ncurriculum and training material.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.73,1:22:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also have a couple of\Nvideos that we're sharing.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:47.99,1:22:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Best Practices Series that\Nthe National Center is doing.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:52.81,1:22:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first in the\Nseries that we're putting
Dialogue: 0,1:22:54.81,1:22:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out called Engaging Fathers
Dialogue: 0,1:22:56.81,1:22:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Engaging Young Fathers\NThrough Support Groups.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.25,1:23:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are basically -- they'll\Nbe some facilitation guides
Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.52,1:23:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support training conversations\Nand group interactions
Dialogue: 0,1:23:08.100,1:23:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with staff around, kind of, what\Nyour takeaways from the videos are.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:12.95,1:23:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, these are, kind of --
Dialogue: 0,1:23:14.95,1:23:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can function like exercises\Nin your program for thinking
Dialogue: 0,1:23:16.95,1:23:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:18.95,1:23:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a -- I'm sorry that our\Npublic chat wasn't working so well.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:23.91,1:23:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I appreciated some of the comments.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:25.91,1:23:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Janus McBride had\Ntalked about, you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:28.66,1:23:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just really reiterating the point\Nthat you really need staff buy-in
Dialogue: 0,1:23:32.73,1:23:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of, you know,\Ngetting father engagement,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:35.75,1:23:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involvement going.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:37.75,1:23:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, it's a real struggle.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:39.75,1:23:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a question\Nabout the PowerPoint.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:41.75,1:23:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This PowerPoint won't be\Nshared, but the resources --
Dialogue: 0,1:23:43.77,1:23:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are a lot of training\Nmaterial in the resources
Dialogue: 0,1:23:46.91,1:23:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've talked about.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:48.91,1:23:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can contact us for\Nspecific things that you're looking
Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.10,1:23:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for from the PowerPoint\Nif you're wanting
Dialogue: 0,1:23:55.88,1:23:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support a particular\Nexercise, that kind of thing.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:58.43,1:24:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd be happy to share it.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.94,1:24:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, David, I think,\Nif you want to take us
Dialogue: 0,1:24:02.98,1:24:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out with some summarizing points
Dialogue: 0,1:24:05.10,1:24:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what we've talked\Nabout today.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:07.10,1:24:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: Sure, so our last slide\Njust really underscores everything
Dialogue: 0,1:24:13.80,1:24:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we discussed, basically\Nsaying that fathers are important
Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.07,1:24:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to their children,\Nwhich all of you know,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:19.07,1:24:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their families and\Ntheir communities.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:22.02,1:24:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the relationship\Nbuilding with fathers is key,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:25.81,1:24:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at the program leadership,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:27.90,1:24:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the continuous improvement\Nprocesses,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.91,1:24:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professional development, all of\Nthose things that we discussed.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:32.98,1:24:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Utilize these resources\Nthat we're providing to you
Dialogue: 0,1:24:35.37,1:24:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really assess your family\Nand your father engagement.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:39.53,1:24:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hold thoughtful conversations,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:41.53,1:24:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even some of the challenging\Nconversations
Dialogue: 0,1:24:43.53,1:24:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you may need to have.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.53,1:24:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we say let's have\Na real conversation
Dialogue: 0,1:24:47.53,1:24:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know what that means.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:49.53,1:24:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, conduct some real\Nprogram planning on how to do this.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:51.53,1:24:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Make this integrated\Nthroughout your entire program.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:54.58,1:24:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Engage in staff development.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.58,1:24:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Implement and evaluate and review.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:58.58,1:25:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, celebrate fathers\Nand families.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:00.65,1:25:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is our time to not only\Ndo it just because it's June
Dialogue: 0,1:25:03.62,1:25:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's Father's Day approaching,\Nbut fathers are so instrumental
Dialogue: 0,1:25:08.12,1:25:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to their families and their\Ncommunities and we want
Dialogue: 0,1:25:10.43,1:25:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure that you're thinking\Nabout that throughout the year.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:12.90,1:25:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to take this time\Nto really thank first
Dialogue: 0,1:25:17.01,1:25:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and foremost Yvette Sanchez\NFuentes, our fearless leader,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:20.17,1:25:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Director of the Office of\NHead Start, for just supporting
Dialogue: 0,1:25:22.77,1:25:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such important work; Edwin\Nand John for co-facilitating;
Dialogue: 0,1:25:28.16,1:25:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiersten Biegel, who\Nis an absolute gem,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:31.12,1:25:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and without whom I'm not\Nsure we would have been able
Dialogue: 0,1:25:33.12,1:25:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pull all of this off this week.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:35.12,1:25:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:37.12,1:25:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The National Center on Parent,\NFamily and Community Engagement,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:39.63,1:25:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our technical support team at\NI-Link, Natalie and Sam and all
Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.38,1:25:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the participants who\Njoined us for this webinar.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:47.26,1:25:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is extremely important\Nto note that we are aware
Dialogue: 0,1:25:50.83,1:25:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the great work that's\Ntaking place in programs
Dialogue: 0,1:25:53.70,1:25:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across the country and through\Nsome collaborative partnerships
Dialogue: 0,1:25:56.38,1:25:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you've established.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.38,1:26:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our only goal is to\Nprovide tangible resources
Dialogue: 0,1:26:00.70,1:26:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can increase the likelihood
Dialogue: 0,1:26:02.80,1:26:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that your father engagement efforts\Nare not tied to an individual
Dialogue: 0,1:26:07.05,1:26:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or external consultant, but are\Nconnected to an integrated system
Dialogue: 0,1:26:11.76,1:26:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of meaningful services\Nwith fathers, children
Dialogue: 0,1:26:14.80,1:26:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and families, and we thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:22.94,1:26:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiersten. Kiersten:\NThanks everybody.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.94,1:26:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John: That was awesome, David.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:30.03,1:26:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: That was a wonderful\Njob all the way around guys.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:33.60,1:26:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so, so much.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:35.60,1:26:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you all the participants.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:37.60,1:26:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think people are\Nstarting to sign out.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:39.60,1:26:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we don't have\Ntime for questions
Dialogue: 0,1:26:41.60,1:26:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I guess people will email us.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:43.65,1:26:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Okay, that sounds great.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:45.82,1:26:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Alright, thank you very much.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:47.82,1:26:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:49.82,1:26:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thanks everyone.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:51.82,1:26:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:53.82,1:26:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Goodbye we'll see you all.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:55.82,1:26:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We'll talk to you soon.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:57.82,1:26:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Very soon.