0:00:00.186,0:00:06.918 Al Jazeera Anchor: [Speaking in formal, literary Arabic] ...Tunisians and because of the quality of the singing that he presented that talked about the deposed president personally. 0:00:07.364,0:00:11.810 So he was arrested during the society-wide protests a few weeks ago. 0:00:12.841,0:00:14.420 El Général: Mr. President! 0:00:14.420,0:00:18.210 Here, today, I speak in my name and the name of the people and everyone who lives in misery. 0:00:18.210,0:00:21.123 2011: this man is still dying of hunger. 0:00:21.123,0:00:23.600 He wants to work to survive, but his voice is not heard! 0:00:23.600,0:00:26.308 Go out into the street and see how the people have become animals. 0:00:26.308,0:00:29.098 Look at the police with batons. Thwack-thwack-thwack! They don't care! 0:00:29.098,0:00:31.775 There is still no one to tell them the word "stop." 0:00:31.775,0:00:34.674 Even the law that's in the constitution, put it in water and drink it. 0:00:34.674,0:00:37.810 Every day I hear of a man's case decided by the sword, 0:00:37.810,0:00:41.133 even if the official knows that he is an honest citizen. I see 0:00:41.133,0:00:43.267 the police beat women for wearing headscarves. 0:00:43.267,0:00:46.471 Would you accept that for your daughter? I know my words make the eye weep - I know! 0:00:46.471,0:00:49.413 But you're still a father. You would not accept evil being done to your children. Alors! 0:00:49.413,0:00:51.692 This is a message from one of your children 0:00:51.692,0:00:54.265 who is speaking with you of suffering. We are living like dogs! 0:00:54.265,0:00:57.067 Half of the people live in humiliation and have tasted from the cup of suffering. 0:00:57.067,0:01:01.221 Mr. President, your people are dying. So many people are eating from the garbage. There, you see... 0:01:02.190,0:01:05.952 AJ: And joining us today in [Al Jazeera's Tunis] studio is the rap singer Hamada ben Amor. 0:01:06.029,0:01:10.129 I mean, as he is known, "El Général," as I wish to greet him from the beginning. 0:01:10.129,0:01:10.923 G: May peace be upon you. 0:01:10.923,0:01:18.045 AJ: Hamada, this genre of music, how can it influence people and reach them? 0:01:18.998,0:01:24.730 G: [Speaking in very colloquial Tunisian Arabic] In all honesty, right now, because of rap, the people in Tunisia came together. You understand? 0:01:24.730,0:01:27.132 It speaks in the name of the people and it in the name of the "why?," the Tunisian people, 0:01:27.132,0:01:29.533 and the problems that are happening in the country. You know what I mean? 0:01:29.533,0:01:34.456 And this, I mean, I'm still a Tunisian rapper, you know? I spoke in the name of the entire [Tunisian] people in the song. 0:01:34.456,0:01:39.265 And it reached the president of the country and, in this way, I was arrested. 0:01:39.265,0:01:42.325 AJ: Was it your first directly political song? 0:01:42.325,0:01:45.946 G: No, no, no. I sing about politics but this, for the public, is the most famous song. 0:01:45.946,0:01:48.772 AJ: The most famous song. When they arrested you, what did they do to you? 0:01:49.141,0:01:56.333 G: In all honesty, they took me to the Interior Ministry. I was questioned for three days. You know? Interrogated. 0:01:56.595,0:02:00.554 They liked to say, "Who's the leader? Who's writing this?" Know what I mean? 0:02:00.554,0:02:03.070 AJ: You mean, "Who was it who wrote these words?" 0:02:03.070,0:02:05.236 G: I mean, [state security] knew that I worked alone. 0:02:05.252,0:02:08.463 AJ: Were violent methods used on you in the investigation? 0:02:08.463,0:02:11.646 G: No, no, God be praised! AJ: No, they didn't use any... G: No, no. 0:02:11.646,0:02:20.736 AJ: Now, you have become famous. What can rap music contribute now to the transformation of the new Tunisia? 0:02:21.136,0:02:26.252 G: By God, I see so much that is lacking in Tunisia right now, in a new Tunisia. 0:02:26.667,0:02:32.669 I see so much that is lacking in the new transitional government and I will try to give [Tunisia] something more with rap, 0:02:32.669,0:02:36.456 not in the voice of government officials but in the voice of the Tunisian people. 0:02:37.148,0:02:42.147 AJ: Being named "El Général" - where did that come from? In Tunisia there was a general, but that general was Ben Ali! 0:02:42.147,0:02:52.674 G: That's true. It was because the leading rappers weren't singing about politics, you know? I chose it because I would sing about politics. 0:02:52.674,0:02:57.600 I chose this name because it's strong, because it's a symbol...a political symbol. 0:02:57.600,0:03:06.790 AJ: The political significance of rap...did it have a specific political color? G: Huh? 0:03:06.944,0:03:13.221 AJ: I mean a...a specific partisan color that meant liberal or whatever? 0:03:13.221,0:03:21.221 G: Color? No, no, no. I mean, I'm a person with no party. I work in rap and only in rap. You know? 0:03:21.221,0:03:24.312 I'm not a politician but I sing about politics. You get what I mean? 0:03:24.312,0:03:28.375 AJ: In the era of the 1970s and 1980s there were political songs in Tunisia, in the universities. 0:03:28.375,0:03:34.780 There were Cheikh Imam, Marcel Khalifa, and other Tunisians as well. 0:03:35.996,0:03:40.543 Now, have politics in Tunisia become necessarily entangled with rap? 0:03:41.620,0:03:48.229 G: No, it's not entangled with rap. But, because rap is, right now, the closest way to... 0:03:48.583,0:03:59.825 All of the people are listening to it now. Rap has become the most well-known form of art - not just in Tunisia but in the whole world. But it's near the roots. 0:03:59.825,0:04:02.710 AJ: Are you currently engaged in the production of a new song? 0:04:02.710,0:04:07.702 G: God willing. Two days ago, a new song came out. Its name is ta7ya tunis ("Long live Tunisia"). 0:04:07.702,0:04:08.544 AJ: ta7ya tunis... 0:04:08.544,0:04:17.754 G: It's about the reality of the current time. God willing, we'll get our freedom. 0:04:17.754,0:04:26.092 AJ: Thank you very much, Hamada bin Amor, the famous Tunisian rap singer El Général. You are most welcome here.