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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Suzanne Stecker)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.15,0:00:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our next presenter is Emily McCully
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.62,0:00:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she's actually going to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.60,0:00:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell us her experience
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.84,0:00:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of going through the process
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.19,0:00:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of writing her book, "My Heart Glow."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.64,0:00:26.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She received the F. Scott Medal.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.97,0:00:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Emily?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.50,0:00:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Male Interpreter)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.93,0:00:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Correction of the interpretation: She was awarded the Caldecott Award for her work.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.03,0:00:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully, voice raspy)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.68,0:00:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.34,0:00:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to try to be heard
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.29,0:00:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I can be interpreted.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.92,0:00:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I obviously need to be interpreted today.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.25,0:00:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very, very happy to be here
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.47,0:00:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've learned an enormous amount
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.72,0:00:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first half of the program.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.66,0:01:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish I had known all of the things that I heard this afternoon
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.66,0:01:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I wrote this book.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.14,0:01:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a representative of the hearing community.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.07,0:01:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to be a bridge
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.89,0:01:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the deaf community and the hearing community
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.59,0:01:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in creating this story.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.22,0:01:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just telling that unfortunately
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.11,0:01:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the reviewers of the book in the hearing community
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.70,0:01:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were a little confused by it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I think a lot more work has to be done
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.76,0:01:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make ASL and Deaf Culture
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.79,0:01:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood in the hearing community.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.14,0:01:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the reason that I told the story
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.57,0:01:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Alice Cogswell and Thomas Gallaudet
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.91,0:01:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that my son told me I should do it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.29,0:01:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I listened to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.91,0:01:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is a linguist. He is fluent in Japanese--works in Japanese.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.10,0:02:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He speaks Russian, French, a little bit of other languages, a little Chinese.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.10,0:02:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he got interested in American Sign Language
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.42,0:02:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and took a course.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.66,0:02:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He practices it a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.84,0:02:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to say, he goes to bars to practice it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.19,0:02:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fluent ASL people
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.49,0:02:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has met very, very wonderful people that way.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.66,0:02:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's been fascinated by Deaf History,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.24,0:02:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he knew that in making children's books,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.66,0:02:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always try to find a gripping story out of history
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.81,0:02:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they often have involved girls and women
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.42,0:02:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose stories are little known or else I invent them sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.36,0:02:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want to tell the stories of underdogs, basically,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.26,0:02:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think they have the most drama.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.89,0:02:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he told me that American Sign Language
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.32,0:02:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the very first school for the deaf in this country
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.71,0:03:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were created because a young man met a young deaf girl,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.72,0:03:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought well, this is it, there's got to be a great story here.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.77,0:03:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it is a great story.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.27,0:03:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alice Cogswell was about two--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.67,0:03:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she lived in Connecticut,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.86,0:03:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was the youngest child of a wealthy family.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.11,0:03:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her father was a doctor
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.52,0:03:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite a famous man in Connecticut.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.69,0:03:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When she was two, which would have been, lets see,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.69,0:03:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 1805 I think--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.44,0:03:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or no, she was born in 1805--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.61,0:03:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1807, she came down with probably scarlet fever, but we're not sure,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.24,0:03:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and became profoundly deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.41,0:03:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She recalled that when she woke up one morning,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.87,0:03:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she could no longer hear the church bells.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.62,0:03:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She couldn't hear the sound of--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.34,0:03:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she could see a carriage draw up to the door
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.47,0:03:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside her family's house
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.34,0:03:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and couldn't hear any of the sounds that it was making.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.62,0:04:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They subjected her to radical treatment.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.69,0:04:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They poured horrible substances into her ears
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.71,0:04:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through ear trumpets.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.77,0:04:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very painful. Nothing could be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.91,0:04:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her family feared that she was doomed,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.59,0:04:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she wouldn't go to heaven when she died
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.31,0:04:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they couldn't teach her about the Bible.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.72,0:04:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in those days, that's what they thought--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.56,0:04:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that her soul was lost.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.12,0:04:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they loved her and they cherished her,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.36,0:04:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they didn't know what to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.47,0:04:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there were no schools for the deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.94,0:04:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deaf people had absolutely no way to communicate
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.06,0:04:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the rest of the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.46,0:04:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sure that they spoke with what was called "home sign" then.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.31,0:04:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we heard this morning about the people
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.47,0:04:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Martha's Vineyard, most of whom came
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.02,0:05:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 17th Century from one part of England,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.27,0:05:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where almost everybody was deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.44,0:05:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this was a case of genetic deafness.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.79,0:05:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those people settled in Martha's Vineyard.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.66,0:05:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had their own sign language,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.27,0:05:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the rest of Martha's Vineyard learned it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.52,0:05:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody on the island, from the late 17th Century
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.52,0:05:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the early 20th Century,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.06,0:05:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spoke a sign language that was developed there.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.76,0:05:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course deaf people were considered perfectly normal
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.28,0:05:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unlike what was the case
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.01,0:05:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the rest of the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.19,0:05:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alice Cogswell and her sisters and brothers
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.92,0:05:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used a kind of home sign, but she wasn't taught to read
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.62,0:05:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she wasn't taught anything else.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.42,0:05:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when Thomas Gallaudet,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.04,0:05:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was in his early 20's when he met Alice--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.69,0:05:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had cast about for what to do with his life
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.36,0:06:00.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally he decided to go to theological seminary.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.91,0:06:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he wanted to minister to Indian tribes,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.19,0:06:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which meant that he would learn
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.61,0:06:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of sign language because Indians did.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.62,0:06:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He graduated and came home to visit his parents in Hartford.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.19,0:06:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They lived next door to the Cogswells
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.67,0:06:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he saw Alice one day. And he felt terribly sorry for her
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.14,0:06:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she was sitting by herself
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.94,0:06:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while her brothers and sisters played,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.27,0:06:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she couldn't join in the games.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.27,0:06:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he thought he would see,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.12,0:06:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since she looked so intelligent and appealing
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.07,0:06:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course she was aware of him
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.82,0:06:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because her other senses were very highly developed.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.77,0:06:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he came over to her, and the story is
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.79,0:06:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he scratched the letters H-A-T on the dirt
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.07,0:06:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then put his hat on top of them and her face lit up.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.39,0:06:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was already understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.81,0:06:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what reading would lead her to.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.50,0:07:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he began working with her
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.82,0:07:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to teach her to read.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.83,0:07:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she was very, very receptive
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.39,0:07:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and delighted.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.09,0:07:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at this point, Dr. Cogswell thought that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.71,0:07:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he must reach not only Alice, but other deaf children
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.31,0:07:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and found a school for them.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.96,0:07:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he asked Thomas if he would go to Europe
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.36,0:07:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learn how to teach the deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.31,0:07:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Thomas agreed to do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.24,0:07:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Cogswells raised enough money to send him
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.17,0:07:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to England, where he knew that there was a school
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.47,0:07:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in London and another one in Scotland,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.96,0:07:41.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operated by a family called Braidwood.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.47,0:07:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gallaudet left Alice behind
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.59,0:07:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but first he said Alice really should go to school
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.72,0:07:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with her siblings.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.02,0:07:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this was arranged.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.97,0:07:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher at this school
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.07,0:07:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was named Lydia Huntley.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.29,0:08:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was later married to Mr. Sigourney.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.52,0:08:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she became Lydia Huntley Sigourney,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.46,0:08:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a rather famous poetess of the day,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.34,0:08:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at this time she was a young teacher.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.02,0:08:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alice joined this little school
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.93,0:08:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everybody in the school learned to fingerspell --
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.34,0:08:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, they had signs for each of the letters of the alphabet
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.32,0:08:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they would painstakingly spell out words.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.67,0:08:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Alice learned a little bit more.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.86,0:08:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She learned to read
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.54,0:08:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she learned a little bit of history
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.54,0:08:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a little bit of geography and so on,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.87,0:08:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she was not learning a language.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.41,0:08:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meanwhile in London, Thomas was having a hard time.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.49,0:08:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Braidwood family insisted on
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.16,0:08:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaching deaf people to talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.72,0:08:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no sign language used -- in fact, it was forbidden.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.79,0:08:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Braidwoods told Thomas that they would teach him
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.47,0:08:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their method, but he would have to stay in England
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.02,0:09:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for two years and it would cost a lot more money
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.54,0:09:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than they had raised for Thomas's trip.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.76,0:09:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, something wonderful happened --
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.42,0:09:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely unexpected:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.82,0:09:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thomas met an Abbot from Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.84,0:09:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his young assistant who was deaf.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.16,0:09:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Abbot's name was Abbé Sicard
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.86,0:09:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his assistant was Laurent Clerc.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.26,0:09:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Laurent Clerc, of couse, was deaf
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.46,0:09:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a fine teacher at a school in Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.12,0:09:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they used sign language to teach the deaf children.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.10,0:09:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Gallaudet went to Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.56,0:09:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was taught how to use this method,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.21,0:09:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he was getting terribly homesick
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.02,0:09:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was running out of money.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.14,0:09:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he knew he had to go back to Hartford,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.19,0:09:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in order to teach and to start a school
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.46,0:09:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and teach deaf children in America,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.54,0:09:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was going to need help.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.74,0:09:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he persuaded Laurent Clerc
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.57,0:10:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come with him,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.06,0:10:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was extrordinary.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.61,0:10:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clerc had to leave his parents behind.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.54,0:10:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had to get permission to go.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.61,0:10:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately, he was a very adventurous young man
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.51,0:10:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had always wanted to see more of the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.98,0:10:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they sailed to America.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.59,0:10:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took almost two months
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.82,0:10:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and during that time,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.11,0:10:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gallaudet taught Clerc English
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.99,0:10:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Clerc taught Gallaudet
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.99,0:10:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more of the signs that they were using in the school.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.37,0:10:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that school in Paris
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.02,0:10:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had adapted a kind of home sign
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.97,0:10:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that French children naturally--
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.11,0:10:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,French deaf children--used with each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.52,0:10:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teachers at the school saw that sign language
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.02,0:10:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was being used by these children
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.24,0:10:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they knew that it was a good method,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.71,0:10:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they thought that it needed help.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.06,0:11:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They thought they needed to make it grammatical.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.44,0:11:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't realize that this natural sign language
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.94,0:11:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already had a grammar.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.46,0:11:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the kinds of misunderstandings
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.02,0:11:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people have always had about ASL
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.72,0:11:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were there with its very founders.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.01,0:11:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thomas Gallaudet also didn't realize that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.35,0:11:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home sign or methodical sign, it was called,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.00,0:11:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already had a grammar.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.50,0:11:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as we heard earlier today,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.92,0:11:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people didn't realize that
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.95,0:11:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the 1960's, when American Sign Language
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.55,0:11:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was finally analyzed by linguists.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.16,0:11:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this grammatical complexity--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.65,0:11:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this whole language aspect of ASL--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.51,0:11:50.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is so important for hearing people to understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.87,0:11:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, of course, for deaf children to learn
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.30,0:11:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it stimulates the language capacities
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.59,0:12:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the brain.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.30,0:12:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they learn ASL, they learn English much more easily.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.24,0:12:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, as we all know, ASL was suppressed
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.47,0:12:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a long time all over the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.77,0:12:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe the Milan Conference was mentioned
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.60,0:12:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this morning. I think that's where it happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.42,0:12:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, for a long time, deaf children
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.42,0:12:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their schools would sign to each other
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.47,0:12:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it had to be secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.46,0:12:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They weren't allowed to use ASL.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.82,0:12:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't put that in my book,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.69,0:12:36.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's important that I knew it
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.97,0:12:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it was part of the story.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.67,0:12:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you tell a story in any kind of book,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.52,0:12:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may not put everything about the story
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.42,0:12:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the book, but you have to know it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.20,0:12:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this bridge to the hearing community--
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.02,0:12:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's so important;
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.50,0:13:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and having enough materials in libraries
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.44,0:13:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for deaf children is terribly important.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.50,0:13:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This book, "My Heart Glow,"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.20,0:13:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose title was suggested by Harlan Lane,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.39,0:13:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose book I used in much of my research.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.10,0:13:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I contacted Harlan Lane
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.49,0:13:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the suggestion of Gary Wait,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.24,0:13:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is the archivist
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.32,0:13:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the School for the Deaf in Hartford--
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.76,0:13:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very wonderful man who was a tremendous help to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.12,0:13:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he also sent word about the book
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.30,0:13:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out through the community--
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.30,0:13:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Alice in particular,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.42,0:13:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was so good in making it known to people.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.04,0:13:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gary Wait's resources at the School for the Deaf--
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.19,0:13:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has the library there,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.47,0:13:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is almost like a little museum of deaf history.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.74,0:13:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was so important to be there
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.65,0:13:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see all that material.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.49,0:14:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me that I should not include anything
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.71,0:14:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the suppression of ASL--
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.53,0:14:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this story, "My Heart Glow,"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.08,0:14:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be a story of triumph over nothing --
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.03,0:14:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the creation of something
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.33,0:14:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there had been nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.11,0:14:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, armed with the materials I learned from him,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.28,0:14:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a lot of reading of what books there are
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.80,0:14:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about deaf history,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.70,0:14:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Harlan Lane's book in particular,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.88,0:14:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wrote this story.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.41,0:14:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was published.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.30,0:14:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was acquired by an editor, who was fired
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.18,0:14:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a few weeks later.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.54,0:14:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was shepherded through the publishing process
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.78,0:14:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without an advocate.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.03,0:14:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was published without any help at all
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.73,0:14:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by this company, that more or less ignored it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.41,0:14:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it was reviewed by hearing reviewers,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.71,0:14:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of whom were confused
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.48,0:14:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the syntax in Alice's letters,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.60,0:15:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had read Alice's letters at Hartford,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.87,0:15:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I knew that the syntax was the product of her mind--
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.28,0:15:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the way she was thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.05,0:15:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't understand that,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.60,0:15:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though I said so in the author's note.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.35,0:15:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was some confusion, which was unfortunate.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.36,0:15:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was so, so gratified--so happy--when I learned
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.77,0:15:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the deaf community embraced the book.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.45,0:15:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not only that--after it had gone out of print,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.75,0:15:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard from ASL Tales that they wanted to do a DVD of it
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.94,0:15:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to get it back into the world with signing.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.34,0:15:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought it was a fabulous idea
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.29,0:15:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Janice's work on this DVD is so brilliant,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.88,0:15:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course, the quality of storytelling
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.71,0:15:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is possible with ASL
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.12,0:16:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just beyond anything else that's available to anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.01,0:16:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.04,0:16:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deaf children and hearing children will both
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.28,0:16:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefit enormously from this kind of product
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.60,0:16:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from all of the others that I hope
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.88,0:16:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going to be available in libraries everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.78,0:16:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe there will be questions for me?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.21,0:16:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. I think that's about all
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.48,0:16:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can pump out of my throat today.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.18,0:16:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thank you so much for having me here
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.10,0:16:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as I say, it's been extraondinarily illuminating for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.88,0:16:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I love being with you all today.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.35,0:16:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are there any questions?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.12,0:16:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[applause] Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.12,0:16:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No? Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.96,0:17:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you again.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.99,0:17:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Female Audience Member)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.46,0:17:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello there. I just wanted to tell you how delighted
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.89,0:17:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am that you've made this book possible
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.39,0:17:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many more works such as these.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.37,0:17:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm inspired by the fact that this book is there.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.21,0:17:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.56,0:17:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.18,0:17:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Female Audience Member)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.54,0:17:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My question is how long did it take you to complete that book?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.02,0:17:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.47,0:17:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, this one... of course there's the research
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.82,0:17:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reading process was several weeks,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.49,0:17:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't usually have an advisor.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.55,0:17:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gary Wait was my advisor on this one,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.54,0:17:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we communicated back and forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.65,0:17:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the trip to Hartford--that had to be scheduled,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.02,0:17:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.35,0:18:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I would say two or three months for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.77,0:18:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, sitting down and doing a picture book
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.35,0:18:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requires doing a "dummy,"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.17,0:18:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that I write the text
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.82,0:18:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time that I'm creating a little pretend book.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.72,0:18:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the little pretend book is absolutely necessary
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.12,0:18:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because a picture book is unlike most other books
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.55,0:18:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that it's like a little movie that's in my head,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.24,0:18:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have to get the movie down on paper
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.92,0:18:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The movie is not projected. It involves the reader.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.22,0:18:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The book cannot be read
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.52,0:18:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless the reader wants to turn the page,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.80,0:18:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I had to figure out how much material to put on a page.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.40,0:18:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put so much on...well, I'll do it with this.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.20,0:18:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I make a dummy that looks sort of like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.69,0:18:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's just black and white sketches.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.77,0:18:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put so much material on this page
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.40,0:18:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the reader will want to know what happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.65,0:18:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reader lifts the page, and for a few seconds
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.40,0:18:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything can happen!
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.84,0:19:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Turns the page, more information--not too much,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.88,0:19:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just enough to create enough tension
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.92,0:19:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the reader wants to turn the page
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.45,0:19:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and advance the story.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.60,0:19:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's a complete collaboration with the reader.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.23,0:19:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have to figure out with the dummy--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.32,0:19:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I play with how much I put on this page and that page
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.28,0:19:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I go back and forth.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.25,0:19:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tend to make little rough sketches
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.53,0:19:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tape them down, or tape down the words
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.73,0:19:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with scotch tape
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.42,0:19:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then lift them up and move them around
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.50,0:19:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I have to.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.55,0:19:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that process takes, oh maybe two or three weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.10,0:19:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I send it to the publisher,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.38,0:19:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the editor figures out what else I have to do
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.82,0:19:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what isn't working and what is working
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.68,0:19:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tells me and sends it back.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.60,0:19:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I make revisions--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.36,0:19:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can take two or three more weeks--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.70,0:19:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I finally get to the point
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.83,0:19:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I do the finished work.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.42,0:20:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my emphasis in my books is
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.80,0:20:06.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want everything to look as if something is happening--
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.03,0:20:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want it to have a sense of action--
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.48,0:20:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I, to try to make things look spontaneous,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.18,0:20:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I make, for example, color choices as I'm painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.43,0:20:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't do color sketches,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.28,0:20:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wait until I'm doing the finished paintings
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.37,0:20:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they take another six weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.62,0:20:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I send that off. My work is done.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.62,0:20:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The book is separated. The colors are all separated
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.27,0:20:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and printed - each color separately.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.93,0:20:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably these days in Asia.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.43,0:20:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The book doesn't come out for a full year
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.96,0:20:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after I have finished my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.10,0:20:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by that time, in this case,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.67,0:20:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the publisher had forgotten about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.88,0:20:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that can happen--
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.52,0:21:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not such a good story.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.68,0:21:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I hope that this ASL Tales version has...
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.02,0:21:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope it's going to have a lot of momentum
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.10,0:21:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will really reach as many people as it can.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.03,0:21:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once again, thank you so much, Deaf Community,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.95,0:21:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for embracing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.33,0:21:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More questions?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.34,0:21:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Male Audience Member)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.48,0:21:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm curious if you've had the experience...
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.67,0:21:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh sorry, one moment...
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.83,0:21:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm curious if your work on this book
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.46,0:22:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has made you inspired to learn more
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.88,0:22:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the deaf community and deaf culture?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.17,0:22:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully) Yes it has. Very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.63,0:22:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Female voice, offscreen)
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.38,0:22:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe we have two questions off to the side.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.88,0:22:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Alice Hagemeyer)
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.71,0:22:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello there.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.92,0:22:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some of you who may not know,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.19,0:22:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her book is the very first book
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.99,0:22:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written for children that is talking about deaf history,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.31,0:22:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I applaud you for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.42,0:22:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not sure if even you knew that.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.42,0:22:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you know that?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.84,0:22:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.44,0:22:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I knew it was the first one about Alice and Thomas.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.69,0:22:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know it was the first, period.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.92,0:22:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's amazing. That's terrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.06,0:23:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Alice Hagemeyer)
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.29,0:23:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, it's the first historical work for children--
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.52,0:23:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first historical fiction book for children.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.91,0:23:09.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, it's very fortunate, and I'd like everyone to know
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.01,0:23:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the School for the Deaf has a museum,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.41,0:23:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which in the past, people weren't really cherishing
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.79,0:23:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their heritage and the artifacts
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.78,0:23:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so oftentimes, things weren't preserved well
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.64,0:23:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until Gary Wait, also a good friend of mine
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.98,0:23:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got involved with their museum program
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.76,0:23:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and made some drastic changes.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.34,0:23:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And having that material preserved,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.51,0:23:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made your research, I'm sure, much better,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.63,0:23:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so our thanks also have to go out to Gary.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.34,0:23:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, any of you who want to write
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.91,0:23:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.79,0:23:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to let you know about what wonderful resources
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.98,0:23:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these deaf archives are.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.03,0:23:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many places around the country don't have these
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.03,0:23:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kinds of resources available as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.83,0:23:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I know deaf people are quite surprised
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.29,0:23:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a hearing author has written this,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.56,0:24:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than a deaf author.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.69,0:24:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, it brings to bear the point that we must all work together--
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.29,0:24:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our communities have to work together.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.32,0:24:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thank you so much for getting this story out there
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.44,0:24:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accessible to our deaf children.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.44,0:24:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, I have to applaud Janice Cole and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.46,0:24:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her company's work to put these in ASL versions.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.51,0:24:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a story that will never be outdated. Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.37,0:24:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.01,0:24:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very, very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.09,0:24:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I meant to say earlier
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.18,0:24:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that history is absolutely vital for everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.11,0:24:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have a context for your life in the present,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.40,0:24:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you really don't have anything to stand on.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.72,0:24:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often, when I'm talking to school kids,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.04,0:24:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I quote Cicero, who said,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.48,0:24:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"To not know what happened before one was born
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.26,0:24:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to always be a child."
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.12,0:24:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you know, in order to grow up,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.12,0:24:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children have to know history.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.96,0:25:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially their own history.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.14,0:25:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, there has to be more of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.62,0:25:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.32,0:25:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Margie English)
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.78,0:25:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have one small question if I may?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.95,0:25:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.44,0:25:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're entitled.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.43,0:25:17.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Margie English)
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.15,0:25:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a person who has published a number of works
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.98,0:25:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and illustrations. With this text, "My Heart Glow,"
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.63,0:25:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that one has not been widely marketed
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.92,0:25:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you said the reviewers weren't sure
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.92,0:25:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite how to take the book and the use of syntax by a deaf person
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.65,0:25:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the expression of the deaf person's thinking process.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.80,0:25:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now in terms of future publishers of deaf works
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.73,0:25:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by deaf authors, what would you say
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.18,0:25:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those future publishers
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.68,0:25:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these future authors,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.12,0:25:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they could do to improve this process
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.63,0:25:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it's more readily accepted?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.40,0:25:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And educate those reviewers as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.48,0:26:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it would be more appropriately received?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.30,0:26:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Emily McCully)
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.05,0:26:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I think my publisher should have
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.50,0:26:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided something, I think, for reviewers
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.68,0:26:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they did not.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.93,0:26:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought and I hoped that the author's note
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.92,0:26:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would suffice, but apparently it didn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.32,0:26:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm saying only one or two people did this,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.98,0:26:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was significant that they didn't understand.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.38,0:26:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, there has to be support of the book.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.31,0:26:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the storytelling process, I didn't want to interrupt the story
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.65,0:26:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with editorial comments or, you know, references to facts
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.27,0:26:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.17,0:26:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted the story to flow, as a story must.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.97,0:26:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was up to the publisher, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.93,0:26:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to provide the support material
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.30,0:26:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that reviewers needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.73,0:26:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, adult books are often published
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.73,0:27:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with reader's guides, guides for book clubs and so on.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.23,0:27:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that kind of thing
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.20,0:27:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that goes along with the book
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.50,0:27:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but doesn't have to be part of the story
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.33,0:27:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be very helpful.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.52,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Janice.
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