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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.16,0:00:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... outside of what, uh, seems really comfortable and familiar to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.24,0:00:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and launch out into some real, for you, unknown territory.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.74,0:00:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you haven't gone out there,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.04,0:00:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you haven't, you know, gotten in proximity to black people as you say,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.31,0:00:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don't have to.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.52,0:00:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's part of what it means to be American to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.69,0:00:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to have all these things that you can do if you want to,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.36,0:00:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't have to do if you don't want... don't wanna do,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.76,0:00:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a way in which American, and white, and human, become synonyms.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.23,0:00:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That "why can't we just treat each other as human beings?",
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.20,0:00:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me, when I hear it from a white person,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.90,0:00:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means "why can't we all just pretend to be white people.?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.14,0:00:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll pretend you're a white person, [laughing] and then you can pretend to be white"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.24,0:00:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"why don't you eat what i eat?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.74,0:00:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"why don't you drink what I drink?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.98,0:00:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"why don't you think like I think?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.52,0:00:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"why don't you FEEL LIKE I FEEL?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.75,0:00:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"GOD DAMMIT I'M SO SICK AND GODDAMNED TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THAT."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.03,0:00:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'M SICK OF THAT".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.39,0:00:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it means to be human beings to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.69,0:00:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what it means to be white,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.33,0:01:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what it means to be American,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.69,0:01:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't you come the hell over here,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.40,0:01:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what I hear every goddamned day,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.67,0:01:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know that I can't come over there,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.20,0:01:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that this skin,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.53,0:01:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that this hair,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.54,0:01:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that this way that I talk
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.97,0:01:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.87,0:01:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I feel
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.54,0:01:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will never
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.31,0:01:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.37,0:01:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get included
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.24,0:01:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm unpalatable to this goddamn nation.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.68,0:01:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm unpalatable.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.71,0:01:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot swallow me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.75,0:01:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot taste me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.85,0:01:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot tell me because you don't want to.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.05,0:01:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think that you can survive without me,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.94,0:01:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you can't, man.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.78,0:01:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think, and you think that,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.12,0:01:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey it'll all be fine when we just treat each other like human beings.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.93,0:01:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what that says to me is: don't be yourself, be like me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.53,0:01:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keep me comfortable,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.83,0:01:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connect when I'm ready to connect,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.90,0:01:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come out to my place,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.27,0:01:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe I'll come down and get some artifacts from your place.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.40,0:01:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh uh.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.84,0:01:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is bullshit.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.88,0:01:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[breathing heavily]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.41,0:02:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you say that your ethicity is American,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.63,0:02:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no American ethnicity.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.83,0:02:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had to throw away your ethnicity to become American.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.30,0:02:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it means.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.40,0:02:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it means.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.57,0:02:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You give up who you are to become American.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.61,0:02:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can pretend that it's ok because you're white.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.01,0:02:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we give up who we are to become American,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.35,0:02:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that we're dying from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.88,0:02:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're dying from it too, but you don't know it necessarily.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.45,0:02:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Get ethnic, y'know?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.75,0:02:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Y'know, I'm not gonna trust you until you're as willing to be changed
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.46,0:02:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and affected by my experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.93,0:02:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and transformed by my experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.70,0:02:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I am every day by yours.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.27,0:02:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I attended a school for the first time that was predominantly white,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.61,0:02:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had white teachers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.71,0:02:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I walked into the classroom,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.79,0:03:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were 3 reading groups in my 5th grade classroom,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.12,0:03:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was promptly put into the lowest reading group.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.45,0:03:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I gathered very quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.85,0:03:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that was because I'm of African and American descent.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.36,0:03:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they put me in the internediate reading group,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.47,0:03:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they put me into the highest reading group,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.66,0:03:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and y'know, I just boiled and churned through the whole process
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.70,0:03:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my reading level was higher than anything they had in the classroom.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.87,0:03:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always dealing with you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.37,0:03:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always dealing with you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.71,0:03:28.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't deal with him,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.91,0:03:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't deal with me,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.28,0:03:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you had an opportunity to deal with some Latino people,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.95,0:03:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we always deal with you, baby.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.52,0:03:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.18,0:03:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.62,0:03:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the ride up here,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.69,0:03:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like oh man where are we now?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.92,0:03:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh god! I hate being out of the city.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.09,0:03:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I know who's out here... you all.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.23,0:03:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or at least I know who's in charge,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.63,0:03:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if there's other people out here,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.00,0:03:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know who's in charge,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.77,0:04:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't know anywhere where I can find some safety that I can rely upon.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.31,0:04:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I'm out here.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.51,0:04:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I'm real glad I got to the house before sundown.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.55,0:04:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] yeah, it's like shark-infested waters.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.05,0:04:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] Really?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.92,0:04:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] Yes, definitely.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.29,0:04:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't have to be said.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.93,0:04:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be felt,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.72,0:04:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's... intuitive.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.06,0:04:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's... hard to explain to someone who doesn't have to go through it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.60,0:04:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, you know, I've traveled down south,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.47,0:04:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and y'know... just that feeling...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.70,0:04:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you said, you get... you know...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.24,0:04:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drive through Kentucky and Tennessee
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.01,0:04:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see the Appalachian mountains up ahead of you,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.58,0:04:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and know you want to get through those mountains so fast without stopping for anything,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.58,0:04:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don't know if you'll get out.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.32,0:04:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Driving through Ukiah,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.09,0:04:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a big pickup was behind me with a gun rack on the back, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.59,0:04:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was nervous.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.96,0:04:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was... and I've never been hurt by somebody on the freeway with a gun rack,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.43,0:05:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, that's never happened to me, but the fear is still there.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.93,0:05:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fear is still there,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.54,0:05:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know it can happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it can happen
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.24,0:05:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it has happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.55,0:05:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not to me, but to people who look just like me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.04,0:05:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or who don't look just like me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.75,0:05:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got the fear.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.70,0:05:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.05,0:05:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to be out on a road around here.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.66,0:05:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tell ya, it's scary, with the gun racks.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.16,0:05:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've done workshops...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.29,0:05:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] Do you kow what the gun racks are all about?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.56,0:05:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gordon] Can I...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.46,0:05:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] Sure Gordon.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.30,0:05:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Gordon] Because this is my experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.66,0:05:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't feel safe with those people.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.37,0:05:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's a stereotype about me,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.14,0:05:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people who have gun racks and pickup trucks,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.50,0:05:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've had, I used to do a workshop in this area,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.31,0:05:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little further east from here called the Mill Experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.41,0:05:49.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had 7 shotgun holes through the sign that I had out on the road,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.55,0:05:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and picked up the shells and still got em.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.38,0:05:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't feel what I know Victor feels up here,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.72,0:06:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I got a piece of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.73,0:06:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just scary.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.43,0:06:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don;t know how to deal with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.03,0:06:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When my father hit Texas, he never stopped,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.80,0:06:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he went straight through Texas.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.67,0:06:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't stop,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.74,0:06:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well we must have stopped for food, I can't believe that,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.04,0:06:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't remember stopping.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.51,0:06:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know we didn't stop to sleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.71,0:06:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's like he wanted to get out of that state as fast as he could.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.42,0:06:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had no comprehension... and especially from you,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.22,0:06:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you Latinos,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.36,0:06:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are frightened to come up highway 101.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.83,0:06:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, uh, in my opinion, unfounded.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.56,0:06:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An unfounded fear and apprehension on your parts.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.10,0:06:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfounded??
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.27,0:06:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's that word again...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.44,0:06:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This valley is not hostile to Latinos.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.24,0:06:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren Moye] How can you say that? You're not Latino?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.58,0:06:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it's not hostile to Latinos.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.88,0:06:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] Can I just...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.18,0:07:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] And Victor and Loren here are expressing feelings that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.25,0:07:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I... I'm afraid that these feelings, there will be no progress, and no change in racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.23,0:07:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fear of colour will remain
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.26,0:07:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gap isn't being bridged here.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.63,0:07:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] I thought Victor explained that very clearly,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.00,0:07:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we ... we've changed, as far as we're gonna change...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.51,0:07:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, and you're expecting a change from the white person...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.64,0:07:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] Exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.91,0:07:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm saying to you, you're the same as I am, and you don't believe that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.25,0:07:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that that really may be more predominant than you think.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.35,0:07:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what about guys like Colin Powell?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.72,0:07:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[others laughing]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.72,0:07:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know... why do you laugh about that?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.63,0:07:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] I'm not laughing. I think it's a serious issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.38,0:07:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did make it, but what did he make?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.40,0:07:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many professors in the California college system that are coloured,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.20,0:07:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're respected and...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.00,0:07:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] "Coloured".
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.67,0:07:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well... what... African American, Chinese, and Latino, what do you want me to do?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.84,0:07:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's lump it all together in one term, coloured.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.44,0:07:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm coloured,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.08,0:07:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm white.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.61,0:07:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You called me white, and I'm a colour.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.08,0:08:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] Let's go back to Colin Powell, Colin Powell's responsible for killing...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.82,0:08:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is emotional, and this is totally normal,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.72,0:08:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, to be so emotional about this topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.05,0:08:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I feel a lot of frustration here David,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.16,0:08:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think, um, you have to listen to our experiences because they're valid.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.43,0:08:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that, they are valid for you...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.40,0:08:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I don't think you do, because, let me tell you why I don't think you do.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.74,0:08:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It souds like, you're bouncing it back to them and saying
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.90,0:08:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"it's your problem, why do you guys act like this? You guys can drive down the street , down highway 101..."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.74,0:08:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] And I can go into Chinatown...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.18,0:08:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] No. Listen to me...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.25,0:08:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] ...and be frightened to death...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.45,0:08:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] Well, listen to me, part of, I mean, when I drove...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.32,0:08:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] And I do get frightened...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.09,0:08:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] You gotta listen to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.69,0:08:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Yutaka] Breathe.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.06,0:08:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C taking a deep breath]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.76,0:08:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] When I drive down highway 101, you know, I didn't feel quite comfortable either.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.36,0:08:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] Really?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.16,0:08:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David L] No, but let me tell you my experience, where I'm coming from.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.76,0:08:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up, I went to highschool in an all-white environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.60,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was the only person of colour in my highschool.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I resented being Asian because I wasn't white.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.24,0:09:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This kind of racism is in place so that people don't even think about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.41,0:09:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.71,0:09:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just feel left out.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.52,0:09:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I stand in line in a counter to be served, to buy something,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.85,0:09:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the white person who comes after me gets served first,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.15,0:09:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not done on purpose,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.89,0:09:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's because the person doesn't see me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.40,0:09:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm invisible to that white person,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.73,0:09:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the clerk.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.31,0:09:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.04,0:09:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm invisible.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.63,0:09:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That happens to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.17,0:09:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was talking to some friends in a restaurant,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.11,0:09:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got the same thing as you, David,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.50,0:09:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they started asking me the order, get their food, to get their food, y'know?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.55,0:09:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Started ordering and looking up at me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.78,0:09:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this insidious thing that you deal with daily.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.02,0:09:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day I go to a professional workshop
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.12,0:09:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"oh! Don't I know you? I met you at the last one!"
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.79,0:09:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughing]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.16,0:09:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.96,0:09:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every fuckin' time.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.57,0:10:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If not once, several times.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.00,0:10:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time, no one recognizes, y'know, we all look alike, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.64,0:10:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a continual thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.85,0:10:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Continual.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.78,0:10:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even, y'know, I... took your comment out of naïveté earlier
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.95,0:10:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you said "well, you don't look Japanese, I'm not sure what you look like, y'know?"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.42,0:10:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And uh, but, this happens, it's just... in the air that you breathe.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.43,0:10:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all these things are... seem like doors to shut you out from something.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.15,0:10:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I see from, uh, white people generally,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.78,0:10:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they don't talk about themselves as white people.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.58,0:10:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They talk about themselves as human beings,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.98,0:10:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if it means the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.81,0:10:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what I wanna know is what it means to be white.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.22,0:10:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not what it means to be a human being,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.46,0:11:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we already know that you're a human being,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.19,0:11:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can already relate to the universal human experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.10,0:11:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the white experience?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.87,0:11:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I, uh, uh, look at you manifesting your white experience,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.77,0:11:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also see you not naming it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.08,0:11:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see you want it to blur the distinctions,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.68,0:11:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between just being a person
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.98,0:11:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also, most particularly, being a white person,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.32,0:11:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what that means.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.28,0:11:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that part of what it means to be white
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.62,0:11:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is never, it means never having to say you're sorry,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.12,0:11:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it also means never having to admit
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.56,0:11:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to be white means something different than to be a person of colour,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.20,0:11:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that there is an experience that you have
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.20,0:11:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is very different from what the experience of people of colour is.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.30,0:11:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure that there were many times that I felt that, uh, people of colour were being mistreated,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.74,0:11:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably when I was in my late teens going down to, uh, basically black areas
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.55,0:11:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and seeing the cops around a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.62,0:12:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd go down there and dance,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.29,0:12:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, and see the police around.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.62,0:12:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't think there was a lot of awareness,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.92,0:12:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was more just... a numbess...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.36,0:12:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I... it doesn't happen to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.13,0:12:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't happen in my area,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.74,0:12:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, and so... that's somebody else's problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.84,0:12:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never consider myself as you do,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.16,0:12:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a part of an ethnic group.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.22,0:12:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's what you're looking for,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.51,0:12:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're not going to find that among us,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.92,0:12:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we don't look at ourselves as an ethnic group.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.44,0:12:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] Do you know that that means something?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.49,0:12:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] I don't know what it means, I mean...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.06,0:12:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] I'm telling you that that means something...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.34,0:12:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] I'm trying to answer your question Victor,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.23,0:12:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as you were asking that question, I'm saying, well gosh,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.40,0:12:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never considered myself part of a white group.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.19,0:12:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just wonder,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.20,0:12:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't it seem kina deep to you
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.30,0:12:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't have an answer to that question?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.29,0:12:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you have no, do you have any notion that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.22,0:12:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that you have no answer to that could actually
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.61,0:13:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a source of meaning, experience, or knowledge?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.45,0:13:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposite is how I feel about you, Victor.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.52,0:13:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you have no comprehension that the world is open to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.36,0:13:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You think that the white man is a block and a dam to your progress,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.76,0:13:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is not.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.40,0:13:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think {\i1}you{\i0} put up that dam and that block yourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.20,0:13:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in {\i1}your{\i0} regard to the white man.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.60,0:13:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] See I think that's one of the major problems with racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.27,0:13:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he did answer the question.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.57,0:13:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a white man, he doesn't have to think about his position in life,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.08,0:13:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his place in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.91,0:13:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The history books tell him, as they are written,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.85,0:13:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this world {\i1}is{\i0} his.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.88,0:13:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't have to think about um you know
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.52,0:13:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he goes, what he does.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.42,0:13:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't have to think like a white person.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.26,0:13:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way the world has been set up,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.86,0:13:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,America in particular,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.23,0:13:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,white is, is human.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.53,0:13:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Roberto] ... that white is a human being.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.10,0:13:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loren] Right. That's what a human being is.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.27,0:13:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he doesn't have to worry
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.54,0:14:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what, how do I think like a white person.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.67,0:14:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That does, I...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.54,0:14:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, but I would assume that doesn't enter a white person's mind,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.54,0:14:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they don't, they don't have to deal with that from day one.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.36,0:14:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They step into a world that is theirs.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.88,0:14:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hugh] It's a good question...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.29,0:14:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[some talking over one another]
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.59,0:14:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] I need to respond to your saying that... that I create uh my own racial predicament
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.92,0:14:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by my thinking and my attitudes?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.50,0:14:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] You block your progress...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.33,0:14:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] I block my own progress?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.00,0:14:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David C] By allowing your attitude toward the white man to limit you.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.77,0:14:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Victor] I think the police limit me.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.27,0:14:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that white supremacy has placed limitations on where I can go and what I can do.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.32,0:14:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't think that, that I cause my own predicament under uh white supremacy...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.42,0:14:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by white supremacy I don't mean uh Neo Nazis, and I don't mean Klan,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.83,0:14:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm not...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.56,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm terrified of those people...