1 00:00:04,571 --> 00:00:07,241 Majestic: Hey Hotties! I'm Majestic 2 00:00:07,241 --> 00:00:08,742 Jessica: I'm Jessica 3 00:00:08,742 --> 00:00:11,311 We're just having a Hungry Virginz tea party 4 00:00:11,311 --> 00:00:16,383 with some snickerdoodles and uh, we were talking about 5 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:21,288 hungry virginity and you brought up Intuitive Eating and we 6 00:00:21,288 --> 00:00:26,059 thought they were really interesting together and we just thought 7 00:00:26,059 --> 00:00:30,631 we'd like invite you guys, you know. Here we are 8 00:00:30,631 --> 00:00:37,004 Jessica: So maybe we should explain what Intuitive Eating is 9 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:40,173 for those viewers at home who are not aware of it 10 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:43,844 and Intuitive Eating.. oh, go for it 11 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:47,247 you want it, so you're eating it. 12 00:00:47,247 --> 00:00:50,684 And that is Intuitive Eating. Really though 13 00:00:50,684 --> 00:00:53,053 That worked out perfectly! 14 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:54,488 Majestic: That was so good and smart 15 00:00:54,488 --> 00:00:58,992 Jessica: But Intuitive Eating is just like developing a really mindful 16 00:00:58,992 --> 00:01:02,162 relationship with your body and its needs and its wants and 17 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:04,932 how to best take care of it is to trust it 18 00:01:04,932 --> 00:01:13,373 and trusting it, first you have to get to know it and we're going to 19 00:01:13,373 --> 00:01:18,445 Majestic: I'm going to mime it 20 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:20,280 I'm just getting to know my body 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,985 Jessica: Yeah, great. And so Intuitive Eating and Hungry Virginity 22 00:01:24,985 --> 00:01:27,988 are pretty much, best friends 23 00:01:27,988 --> 00:01:30,490 Majestic: yeah, because like being a Hungry Virgin is about 24 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:35,796 the celebration and reclamation of food and the journey of renegotiation 25 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:40,334 and also its really funny 26 00:01:40,334 --> 00:01:44,671 Jessica: /Maybe we're going to outline the big points and just 27 00:01:44,671 --> 00:01:51,578 as a note, a good resource for me is intuitiveeating.org 28 00:01:51,578 --> 00:01:56,450 and it was more or less like a loose bible to me when I started 29 00:01:56,450 --> 00:02:01,655 doing Intuitive Eating, which I have been doing for quite a few years 30 00:02:01,655 --> 00:02:04,324 and a note from.. 31 00:02:04,324 --> 00:02:08,362 Majestic: Also I didn't know about Intuitive Eating, but I'm really 32 00:02:08,362 --> 00:02:11,832 excited for it and a lot of the things they talk about are really straight forwward 33 00:02:11,832 --> 00:02:18,705 and totally like, principles of Hungry Virginity too and but also we 34 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:24,011 were talking about how like any kind of big framework like about dealing 35 00:02:24,011 --> 00:02:30,684 with healthy eating or disordered eating is not going to work for everybody in all of the ways 36 00:02:30,684 --> 00:02:35,956 I feel like it had been important to me to bring my own politics to Intuitive Eating 37 00:02:35,956 --> 00:02:39,493 because not everything is going to work for everyone and their experience 38 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:45,432 with food or their history with food so you just have to make this work for you 39 00:02:45,432 --> 00:02:48,168 and bring your own knowledge and experience to it 40 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:53,240 Jessica: Totally. So our big points are: 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,243 Reclamation and the Celebration of Food 42 00:02:56,243 --> 00:03:00,681 Honoring Your Hunger and Making Peace With Food 43 00:03:00,681 --> 00:03:02,582 Rejecting Diet Mentality 44 00:03:02,582 --> 00:03:05,285 Challenging Food Police 45 00:03:05,285 --> 00:03:10,624 Respecting Your Fullness 46 00:03:10,624 --> 00:03:14,594 Discovering Pleasure and Satisfaction From Food 47 00:03:14,594 --> 00:03:17,431 Respecting Your Hot Bod 48 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:20,967 Majestic: Doing a lot of that today 49 00:03:20,967 --> 00:03:27,174 And also Honoring Your Feelings and Experiences Around Emotional Eating 50 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:29,476 We changed that last one 51 00:03:29,476 --> 00:03:31,111 Jessica: and we didn't include some 52 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:34,548 Majestic: Yeah we didn't include some because we thought they were sort of 53 00:03:34,548 --> 00:03:36,516 Jessica: Not for us 54 00:03:36,516 --> 00:03:40,954 but we will link you underneath this video with all the important things 55 00:03:40,954 --> 00:03:46,993 other rad fatties have said about Intuitive Eating and also the site 56 00:03:46,993 --> 00:03:54,267 we got this from so if you choose to bring in those other ones into your lifestyle, you can do that 57 00:03:54,267 --> 00:04:03,210 Majestic: So the first thing is, I guess we could just talk about honoring your hunger 58 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:07,280 I'm doing that right now. Do you want to talk about that? 59 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,617 Jessica: yes thank you. Honoring your hunger for me meant 60 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:18,692 understanding that I'm a rageful bitch, but a lot of that was tied to Hanger 61 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:27,768 and when you're living in this diet centric world where you're taught 62 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:33,373 to restrict and deny and do all these things that keep you hungry 63 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:42,449 because that hunger is supposed to like give you more moral standing 64 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:45,285 in the world and its supposed to make you a good person and show that you 65 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:49,189 have restraint and all these "great" ridiculous things when really 66 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:52,025 hunger hurts 67 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:54,728 Majestic: Hunger is something everyone experiences 68 00:04:54,728 --> 00:04:59,466 Majestic: oh god oh god, we had some Hungry Virgin technical difficulties just now 69 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:01,034 Jessica: I hope we can put those two together 70 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:02,202 Majestic: We will be able to...hopefully 71 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:03,703 Jessica: Alright 72 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:04,938 Majestic: Come Hell or high water 73 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:06,072 Jessica: Okaaaayyy 74 00:05:06,072 --> 00:05:06,973 Majestic: Wild horses couldn't stop me 75 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:09,042 Jessica: Alright well back on topic huh? 76 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:14,915 Majestic: Okay another thing that is important in all this, that I really want to address 77 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:20,787 in Challenging the Food Police is people like to tell people of all body types 78 00:05:20,787 --> 00:05:22,656 what they should be putting in their bodies or what they shouldn't 79 00:05:22,656 --> 00:05:25,392 be putting in their body or that the thing they're putting in their body is 80 00:05:25,392 --> 00:05:28,628 going to make them fat or whatever and I think that its really important 81 00:05:28,628 --> 00:05:31,898 to challenge those people and those systems. You know like 82 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:39,673 mass media and just realize that like is complicated when you're telling 83 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,909 someone what to put in their body that the things we put in our bodies are 84 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:49,049 complicated by class, our race, our cultural background, our eating habits, our 85 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:53,887 potential disordered eating. But also in general its super wack and not cool to 86 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:54,988 do that.. 87 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:56,056 Jessica: Yeah mind your own business 88 00:05:56,056 --> 00:06:02,562 Jessica: Okay lets move on to respecting fullness which is like, a big thing 89 00:06:02,562 --> 00:06:09,336 because your body knows when its had enough and sometimes 90 00:06:09,336 --> 00:06:18,745 for us who have eyes that are bigger than our stomach, we want to keep eating 91 00:06:18,745 --> 00:06:25,986 and we, though for me, because I also do this where I eat past fullness 92 00:06:25,986 --> 00:06:34,160 because of how I was raised and that is a class thing for me 93 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,198 if you can't afford food and you don't know when you'll eat next 94 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:43,637 you finish everything even if you're full, you just eat it cus it's there 95 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:53,914 if you have a fridge, you don't need to eat it when you don't want to or can't 96 00:06:53,914 --> 00:07:00,487 Majestic: I always do that too where I take so much more than I can eat 97 00:07:00,487 --> 00:07:02,956 because like, I don't know I can never just eat as much as I want 98 00:07:02,956 --> 00:07:04,891 Jessica: its okay honey 99 00:07:04,891 --> 00:07:09,329 Majestic: Its really hard sometimes though 100 00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:12,165 and uh, I will like have half a plate of food left and I totally grew up poor 101 00:07:12,165 --> 00:07:15,335 and I'll do that thing where I'm like "oh my god" 102 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:21,241 but also part of my thing is that I don't have to finish food, that 103 00:07:21,241 --> 00:07:25,378 is something I don't have to do now and no one can tell me to do that 104 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:30,317 no one can expect that of me and if I can save it, great 105 00:07:30,317 --> 00:07:32,686 but I don't need to do that 106 00:07:32,686 --> 00:07:39,893 Jessica: Totally. Also I don't know where this is on our list but 107 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:43,263 a lot of people, when I talk to them about Intuitive Eating think 108 00:07:43,263 --> 00:07:48,468 "well Jessica what if I just like, never stop eating. What if that's a thing? 109 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:52,439 What if my body just never finds a full point?" 110 00:07:52,439 --> 00:08:00,914 and that is a valid question because when I started Intuitive Eating 111 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:06,219 no small village or child or abandoned building was safe from me. 112 00:08:06,219 --> 00:08:17,664 I ate everything in my path, and most of it was a potato based thing or cheese based thing 113 00:08:17,664 --> 00:08:23,837 and just went buckwild on any dairy or potato that you put in front of me 114 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:28,975 I didn't eat a vegetable for like, I don't know how long. 115 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:34,714 And that was something I did. And that's a possibility for you as well 116 00:08:34,714 --> 00:08:40,520 But there will be a point where you're like "you know what? I would like a vegetable now" 117 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:48,061 And then you learn to have a diverse diet and that is the light at the end of the tunnel 118 00:08:48,061 --> 00:08:55,668 and that is the goal. To eat what your body needs and wants because 119 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:58,705 you were born with all the tools you need 120 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:07,247 and to also know that you will get to a point where you want diversity in your diet 121 00:09:07,247 --> 00:09:12,852 because that is the resting place for a lot of people. But also not for a lot of people and 122 00:09:12,852 --> 00:09:16,156 it that's not your resting point, don't shame yourself. 123 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:18,725 You're fine, everybody's fine 124 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:25,131 Majestic: And I think throughout this process its just really important to 125 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:27,634 remember to love yourself. Respect your body and have love for it 126 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:29,536 Jessica: And the process 127 00:09:29,536 --> 00:09:33,039 Majestic: Recognize that this process is hard and have compassion for yourself 128 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,375 If you're still engaging in disordered eating, beating yourself up about it 129 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:37,977 and calling yourself names is just going to make it worse. 130 00:09:37,977 --> 00:09:41,314 Listen to those internal narratives that you have and try to stop them 131 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:45,685 Be like, "No I love my body, I love myself and I'm doing the best that I can 132 00:09:45,685 --> 00:09:49,189 and today was a hard day." That's really important to 133 00:09:49,189 --> 00:09:54,661 Jessica: And that ties into Emotional Eating, which is a big big one for a lot 134 00:09:54,661 --> 00:09:59,466 of people and there is a lot of varied opinions on Emotional Eating 135 00:09:59,466 --> 00:10:03,703 and whether or not that is like a thing that you should get rid of your life 136 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:11,544 or not. My personal opinion is Emotional Eating is a fact of life and you can 137 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:16,983 totally get comfort from food at times. It will not solve 138 00:10:16,983 --> 00:10:24,491 the root of the issue but it will sate you and it will give you some sense of comfort 139 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:26,893 That is why they call it Comfort Food 140 00:10:26,893 --> 00:10:29,229 because there is reality to that 141 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:31,598 Majestic: I think that people use food for so many reasons. 142 00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:33,500 To celebrate, when they're maybe feeling sad. 143 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:37,036 I know as soon as Winter happens, I just want to eat all the carbs ever 144 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:39,873 preferably with cheese on them 145 00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:41,174 Jessica: That's why I married you 146 00:10:41,174 --> 00:10:44,477 Majestic: Thank you. Aw shucks 147 00:10:44,477 --> 00:10:49,816 And realizing that those things are not. Like I can engage in Emotional Eating 148 00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:54,387 without it being disordered now and that has been really positive for me 149 00:10:54,387 --> 00:10:57,390 and I think that I'll never fully get rid of Emotional Eating 150 00:10:57,390 --> 00:11:02,128 because everything is connected and honoring that is just really important 151 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:07,233 And the last thing would be Discovering the Satisfaction and Pleasure of Food 152 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:09,302 That's what being a Hungry Virgin is all about 153 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:11,504 Fuck, food is delicious 154 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:13,339 All kinds of food 155 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,976 Jessica: There will be family dinners of ours where the entire meal 156 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:23,316 we'll just celebrate how fucking delicious that meal is, what 157 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:27,887 went into creating that meal and that it was created with love 158 00:11:27,887 --> 00:11:32,625 and teamwork and that it tastes fucking delicious 159 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:34,994 and then we talk about ways we could have made it better 160 00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:40,300 and then we talk about what we'll eat later and we celebrate that and we 161 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:46,973 feel good about it and its not an issue 162 00:11:46,973 --> 00:11:53,313 It feels unreal to be in a situation where I can be with people and eat 163 00:11:53,313 --> 00:11:56,549 what I want and eat it how I want it and just be 164 00:11:56,549 --> 00:12:02,589 stoked that this isn't a heavy situation for me 165 00:12:02,589 --> 00:12:06,025 No pun intended ;) 166 00:12:06,025 --> 00:12:10,096 But there is pleasure in food 167 00:12:10,096 --> 00:12:15,602 Majestic: Yeah and we all have a fucked up relationship with food 168 00:12:15,602 --> 00:12:18,238 Maybe that's a fucked up overstatement. 169 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,741 I'm not trying to homogenize everybody's experiences 170 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:28,181 but our relationships with food and our bodies are complicated 171 00:12:28,181 --> 00:12:32,118 and this one way that maybe things can be easier or feel better 172 00:12:32,118 --> 00:12:36,923 for some of you. So thank you for joining us on this journey 173 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:40,159 And I hope that it was informative and I hope that if people are 174 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:43,763 interested in this they'll go to get their own resources and start talking about it 175 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:47,033 Jessica: Or ask us questions, because we're here 176 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:49,102 Majestic: Yeah. Eating snickerdoodles 177 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,103 Jessica: Okay 178 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:53,740 Majestic: We love you!! Bye! 179 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:56,175 Majestic: Great.Ow my ass! 180 00:12:56,175 --> 99:59:59,999 Jessica: (moans) Ow! My ass!