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On the relevance of education...

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Ok, so, the first question:

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From my perspective, education is not relevant

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or perhaps shouldn’t be relevant now.

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Because I think education is only as relevant as we all believe it to be, of course.

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And I think recent technologies and recent statements

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–I’m talking recent over the last 30 to 40 years –

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there’s been a lot of questioning of the process

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and the institutions around education.

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And with the recent technology of the last 5 to 10 years,

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those questions have become more readily accessible,

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a lot more people are accessing that question,

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thinking about it and furthering the conversations on.

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So the belief that education is relevant is being undermined.

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Therefore, the answer to the first question is no,

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then there’s no answer to the last question:

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how do you make it more relevant.

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But you need an alternative.

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If you’re going to say no, education is not relevant,

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then you need an alternative.

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And, from my mind, this is simply a semantic difference.

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The meaning of the word education has with it institutionalized,

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credits and certificates and bureaucracy.

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But the rhetoric used in education is around learning.

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Now, education and learning to me are completely different things.

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Education is a bureaucratization of learning,

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and learning is pure and simple.

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It’s being conscious, is exposing yourself to the right thing,

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it’s seeking to question things.

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And so, that’s the question:

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Is learning relevant and if so, how do we make it more?

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Then I agree, learning is obviously very relevant, very important.

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The problem we have, had had, at least the last century,

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at least the last 50 years, is that learning is being impacted by marketing.

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And our capacities to ask the right questions,

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to find the right information,

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and to even have the motivation to find the right information,

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I suspect is being impacted by marketing,

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which tends to want us to think shallow,

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in a shallow way, to desire shallow things,

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and to keep us in a very immature state of mind, I suppose.

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And so, I think then how do we make learning more relevant?

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We need to counteract that.

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And so I think, educational practitioners who are more

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than just people who offer certificates and open the gate for people

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to get pay raises and new jobs,

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people who a genuinely interested about our collective consciousness

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and empowering people and stuff like that,

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need to counteract the marketing machine and help kids,

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I suppose, to get beyond the fashion magazines and things like that.

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I don’t really have a clear idea how we do that,

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but I think there are writers out there who have a clear idea.