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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.21,0:00:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When were you involved for the first time with the Friendship case?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.22,0:00:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started in 1960, between 1960 and 1961, in a very banal way, because I saw pictures made by Bruno Ghibaudi
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.94,0:00:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a weekly magazine called “Settimana INCOM" about 3 flying objects that appeared on the coast of Pescara
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.92,0:01:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One was very strange, the picture was very nice and I thought that it could be real
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.70,0:01:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because one object was really peculiar, while the other two were classic saucer shaped.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.07,0:01:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wrote to him (to the magazine) a few lines, congratulating with him and adding something like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.28,0:01:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“let’s hope that those beings help us”. After 2-3 days, the time for the magazine to receive the letter,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.53,0:01:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received a phone call from Ghibaudi, telling me that my letter was chosen among the many ones they received
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.24,0:02:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was strange...he was using the plural...and he asked for an appointment.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.66,0:02:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He arrived in the evening - I had a group of friends, with whom I was sharing ufo sightings information
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.54,0:02:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and field research, analysing the different cases, selecting hoaxes, from real ones, trying to understand - and I invited this group, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.53,0:02:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ghibaudi told about the things directly, without making names (like Bruno Sammaciccia)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.80,0:02:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told about W56, the bases, everything, and we were a little surprised.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.18,0:03:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then at the end of the evening, while we were going down the stairs, Bruno told me:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.59,0:03:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“there will be very few left of those ones” and in fact only one remained of that group, Paolo Torre,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.96,0:03:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the others have left.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.43,0:03:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after a couple of time that I have seen Ghibaudi, one evening he arrived with Bruno,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.58,0:03:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then my story began.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.78,0:03:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to know a little more, the phenomena,… it lasted for 5 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.66,0:03:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bruno was a charismatic man, fascinating, with culture, he could speak very well,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.77,0:04:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a passionate man, from the south. It was difficult say “no” to him, he was leading me slowly, nicely,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.79,0:04:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the events, the phenomena, I owe everything to Bruno. I still have him in my heart,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.63,0:04:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if in the end he was tired, stressed. This story made go crazy 2 people, it’s not an easy story.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.16,0:05:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also had some difficulty in dealing with it, one needs to be really balanced. The other world: we don’t know it
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.94,0:05:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we would like to be there. This world here: it is too unbearable, and so you live somehow in between,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.08,0:05:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but after a while you get used to it and you manage it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.15,0:05:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Humans, who have a normal nervous system, can get used to everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.48,0:05:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I imagine that the ones who had experiences even deeper than mine, had some stress, and Bruno also had a great responsibility toward them.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.41,0:05:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My first encounter with this reality was through objects teleportation,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.02,0:05:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,film reels were materializing in the air and falling down in the ground.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.66,0:06:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Film reels of movies?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.86,0:06:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, movies that we then would watch or audio reels,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.67,0:06:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with sometimes a greetings or sometimes some direction of things to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.21,0:06:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there were those control "nuclei" of the apartment, there were blue lightning, 2-3 metres long
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.96,0:06:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a diameter of 20-30 centimetres, light blue, they would pop close to us without hitting us,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.64,0:06:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were renewing the nuclei of the apartment. Once every 20 days or so we would see those phenomena,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.71,0:07:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the nuclei needed to be renewed.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.29,0:07:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Bruno asked me to buy a little radio, he put it on the table and after 2-3 minutes a blue flame came out of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.64,0:07:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half meter high and he then said “ok now it is ready” and I always carried it with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.25,0:07:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes “SIGIR” (a member of the friendship case) or other members would speak through it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.48,0:07:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would switch on by it self, Bruno would tell me to change the radio frequencies and I would change them
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.33,0:07:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the voices would still be there. I even tried to put another radio close to it, tuned on Milan.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.77,0:07:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both radio were tuned on Milan, but suddenly mine would switch into the voice of Sigir, while the other was still tuned on Milan.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.89,0:08:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, one day, Bruno told me “They want to make you a present, a gift, choose a place!"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.50,0:08:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have chosen "Trenno" a place close to Milan and we went there and we made a movie of the disc that I showed you before,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.98,0:08:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also photos. Then I took my photographic film to be developed
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.90,0:08:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we went home and we watched the movie.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.94,0:09:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then a lot of funny things happened, I remember that in 5 years I have seen 7-8 times other discs
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.81,0:09:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after a call for an appointment, also small, bright, in the night, in the sky,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.69,0:09:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one was moving in a particular way doing like a theatre, an exhibition, I saw\Nmany things...phenomena...etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.09,0:09:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Did you have a direct encounter with one of the W56?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.94,0:09:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I didn’t meet any, also because it was a dangerous time, they couldn’t get out of their bases
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.15,0:10:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First fo all they were about 3 meters tall, so it wasn’t so easy, well some were smaller, but it wasn’t safe to go out
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.19,0:10:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only once they showed up on a hill, about 300 meters from the house of Bruno in Pescara,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.97,0:10:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wasn’t there - in the group we were initially about 10-15 people. There was a judge, an economist...a lawyer...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.27,0:10:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they saw them on that hill, saying hello.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.21,0:10:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bruno told once that on that hill that summer would happen something, and indeed it happened, they were there.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.79,0:10:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They took pictures of them, there were some sea pines, and they were leaning to this pines and were saying hello.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.99,0:11:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I arrived just after that, and we went afterwards there to take measures and we measured that he was 4 meters tall.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.64,0:11:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They took pictures of them and we all went to the photographer to develop the roll of film. No image!
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.92,0:11:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once there was also my wife, we were at Bruno’s home, there was my little radio and we were 10-12 people
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.87,0:11:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were sitting randomly, and Sigir started to talk from the radio, he said hello to everyone
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.51,0:11:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following the order of our position, he could probably see us.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.65,0:11:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How was he speaking, using a good Italian?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.92,0:12:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, good Italian, the Italian was perfect for all members, but Sigir, when he was greeting
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.73,0:12:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was saying “saluto  tutti” (greetings to everyone) using an Abruzzo slang, and once I asked to Bruno:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.97,0:12:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why does he say “saluto  tutti” while the correct form is “saluto tutti” ?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.62,0:12:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in that moment from the radio the voice of Sigir came immediately back and said : “Gaspare! Saluto  tutti!”.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.93,0:12:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wanted to make it clear that he greeted this way, because also Bruno was greeting this way.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.27,0:12:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They were imitating the dialect?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.04,0:13:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, they were imitating the dialect, and sometimes Dimpietro said “Gaspare, change your thoughts!" - because i was thinking something wrong...
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.42,0:13:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Wich of the W56 was more likeable? At least according to their voices.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.13,0:13:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sigir had a powerful voice, I liked Gallarate.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.17,0:13:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.24,0:13:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because first he was one of the youngest. Obviously we called him Gallarate [it's the name of a little town]. We choosed this name
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.99,0:13:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the first time that he arrived on Earth he saw Gallarate and he said: “How beautiful is Gallarate!”
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.79,0:13:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's nice in that city? But he liked it, so we called him with this name. And one day there was the transmission
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.97,0:14:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a radio quiz between two towns, Gallarate and Frosinone, and Gallarate was rooting (supporting) for Gallarate!
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.18,0:14:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we laughed and I liked him because he was a little different from the others,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.03,0:14:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was more similar to us. But I liked them all.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.27,0:14:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dimpietro did blame me twice, he was sweet but he was also very straight.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.98,0:14:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why did he blame you?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.52,0:14:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I was thinking about something that shouldn’t be thought, I was thinking about
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.66,0:14:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nervous things.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.70,0:15:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the beginning, humans are doubtful, doubt is part of an intelligent mind, otherwise we would be all dupes.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.77,0:15:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have strong doubts that can stimulate you or you can have light doubts, that are only worries
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.09,0:15:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then, in the long term, from Their voices and from Their vibration, you become trustful.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.63,0:15:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After in all, the word “trust” exists, you can find it on the dictionary, so we should use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.14,0:15:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At a certain point you have to trust someone. With doubt you can always question everything, endlessly,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.42,0:16:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but trust came spontaneously. They make you feel it, it’s like when you fell in love with your wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.27,0:16:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was enough her word of love and you trusted her, you didn’t put her through a lie detector.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.94,0:16:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You feel it. If we don’t feel trust, it’s our fault. You need more trust than faith, you could leave out faith,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.14,0:17:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but trust is more important. Faith is too high, trust you can give it to a friend. Friendship is important
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.93,0:17:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can also not believe in God, but be “love”. I know some atheists that are wonderful people.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.44,0:17:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trust is for me the most important thing.For me.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.11,0:17:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the differences were caused by different ideologies, Bruno once tried to explain this thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.29,0:17:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are things that we don’t know about them (life values, laws, ethic, technology, science)
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.01,0:17:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can not understand their different intentions.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.98,0:18:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To give me an example, Bruno once said: “imagine a solar system that is disharmonic,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.30,0:18:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that disturbs that side of the galaxy, well some civilisations, let’s say the CTR [the W56 enemies]
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.61,0:18:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with their technology they can cancel it, destroy it and therefore improve the harmony of that side of the Galaxy.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.13,0:18:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The W56, would do different, in their ideology they think that if nature has created this solar system
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.27,0:19:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one can try to reduce the damage respecting the nature of things.”
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.64,0:19:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course the CTR would destroy the planet only if it was not inhabited, but they would interfere
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.58,0:19:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyway on the nature of cosmos, while W56 would respect it, even if there it disturbs.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.53,0:19:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a principle that it develops also on ethics, on values. This doesn’t mean that CTR are bad
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.00,0:19:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they didn’t destroy their own civilisation it means that they love each others, they love their wives, their pets.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.65,0:20:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they have ideology that are colder and straight, science could be their God. While for the W56, God is Love.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.64,0:20:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why do you think that beings, that are so evolved, needed your logistic help?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.88,0:20:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, they needed water, for us it was a minor effort, Bruno went to a friend who had barrels,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.83,0:20:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he borrowed them, we filled them with tap water, we hired a van and we drove up there.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.90,0:21:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes they would ask other material, rarely 4 times in 5 years, it happened that you were asked
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.53,0:21:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some material, and Bruno would organize it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.67,0:21:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have a personal idea about this, I could be also wrong, but this is my idea: since they needed
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.22,0:21:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uredda (love energy) to survive, they needed a certain quantity of it (if we want to put it in market words)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.27,0:21:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we didn’t give it to them, because, we were not in harmony between us.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.58,0:22:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lets’ say, I don’t give you love, I don’t give you friendship and you jump in a river
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.73,0:22:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, even if youcan swim, you shout “help! help!” to see if I give you my hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.44,0:22:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have to help you and I give you my hand and so you receive my “rate of uredda” (love energy) that you need.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.05,0:22:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this demands of material could be a game to indirectly ask for uredda, but this is my personal idea
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.76,0:22:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I told it to Breccia and he listened to me and said “it could really be like this”.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.07,0:23:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you think that They have definitely left the Earth, after 1978, after their defeat?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.45,0:23:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I left in 1965, so I didn’t live the last events, I hope not, I think not,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.56,0:23:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if they have this duty in regard to planet earth, they shouldn’t be stopped by the failure of 10 rundown people.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.93,0:23:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, I hope that they are still around. They certainly are still around, but we as a group, on the uredda (love energy) aspect, we have failed.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.72,0:23:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not here doing the heroes, grying “Victory, Victory”!
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.06,0:23:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no, we failed, which is worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.50,0:24:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What did the W56 give you spiritually speaking? How did they change your vision about life?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.67,0:24:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They made me understand that a better world is not utopia, because They exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.78,0:24:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are what we are, we are getting worse. While knowing that They exist and that They live on a wonderful way,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.24,0:24:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That They are wonderful, you can realise that it is not an utopia,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.61,0:24:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it is something to live in a cosmos where there are goals that we could access.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.28,0:24:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I was asking about God, about big questions...Once they answered me:
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.36,0:25:03.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Look Gaspare, think that we are here like a military party, not like missionary”.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.34,0:25:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We then understood, me and my wife, that we were asking things to which they could not answer,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.31,0:25:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we would have understood them on our own, through our spiritual evolution, we met Osho
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.92,0:25:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this also helped us.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.49,0:25:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I received a lot from their way of speaking, from their presence.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.50,0:25:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why, according to you, did the W56 project fail, if it failed?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.24,0:25:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, WE failed. Because of that Uredda (love energy) they called in this way, it was an energy,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.78,0:26:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the one when there is a negative pole and a positive pole, quanta and tachions, that uredda was the energy of love.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.93,0:26:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A love that we should have shared between us in the group and toward them.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.80,0:26:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Toward them it was easy, between the group…we are what we are. And after 5 years it was broken.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.21,0:26:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this uredda, that they collected it in their instruments in the bases, defence devices or others, I don’t know..
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.93,0:26:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when they didn’t receive this “fuel” (lets call it like this) the thing ended.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.54,0:26:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had to go,but I think, and it seems that, they knew it very well
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.68,0:27:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they had to make this experience.