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Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.72,0:00:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I would like to have a say.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.54,0:00:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My opinion is close to the one of Alexandre.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.95,0:00:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's true that a few of us are starting to look into
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.15,0:00:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democracy and what you've been saying. It's also true that most people,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.71,0:01:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,90%, don't care at all about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.15,0:01:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would a solution be that all become citizens or
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.23,0:01:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we make a distinction between citizens and civilians?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.55,0:01:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be a citizen, that implies duties against which
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.83,0:01:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we receive rights. At the same time, being a citizen as you have exposed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.03,0:01:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requires to be volunteer, so you have to take the first step.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.87,0:01:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that we should have a distinction between citizens and civilians,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.91,0:01:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with a fundemental principle:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.63,0:01:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all civilian who wishes to do so can become a citizen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.71,0:01:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This principle could never be revoked by anyone,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.35,0:01:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,law or religion, it's a fundemental principle.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.55,0:01:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there you could have 10% of citizens and 90% of civilians or
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.87,0:01:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,90% of citizens and 10% of civilians. In my opinion, we need this distinction.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.55,0:01:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's actually very attractive.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.25,0:01:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I would even go as far as to say that this distinction is useful because civilians,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.75,0:02:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other people, consumers, to become citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.71,0:02:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we make a distinction, desire will rise from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.35,0:02:09.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Absolutely. I completly agree. I actually find it...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.39,0:02:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...sorry, I keep on using the word, but I find it very...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.42,0:02:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- ...sexy!
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.76,0:02:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Absolutly. And still, it's not politically correct.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.79,0:02:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks really a lot like active/passive citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.83,0:02:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks like censitary suffrage. I'm sure that it's not what you have imagined,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.35,0:02:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is that the criteria isn't money.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.43,0:02:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, but you would have a Rule of Law, civilians would submit
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.51,0:02:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the same rules as citizens. [...]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.06,0:02:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You should actually take a microphone so that you can be recorded
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.36,0:02:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's very interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.60,0:02:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Since civilians don't have weapons
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.80,0:02:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also bare no responsibility, they would not have the right to decide,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.24,0:02:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by that I mean they will not obtain power.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.92,0:02:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only distinction.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.06,0:02:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No weapons, obligation to obey, protective rights to be sure
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.78,0:02:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the majority won't squash them... \N-Yes, of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.59,0:02:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- ...and the possibility - and that's real important - to step into the side
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.81,0:03:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of citizens, to the only condition of being ready for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.98,0:03:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe to have learned for it, a permit? So you have learned a minimum about the institutions
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.79,0:03:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and democratic values. Then you'd be capable.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.20,0:03:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it is really open entry and that there isn't
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.76,0:03:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a huge "entry process" that would be insurmountable. If someone who tries sincerly,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.57,0:03:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even modestly, manages to become a citizen, then I find it attractive.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.27,0:03:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It let's people who don't want to stay at peace. It would be a regime where we have...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.60,0:03:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tonight, we're moving forward. This is something important.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.45,0:03:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This would let us have a system where the 90% who don't care
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.02,0:03:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have a protected spot against injustice.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.98,0:03:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those people are in fact people who don't want to have a chief.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.10,0:03:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excuse me, it's citizens who don't want to have a leader.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.50,0:03:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Civilians (in your words) are people who want a good leader.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.62,0:03:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want a good master. They don't want to be free.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.18,0:03:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many people like that. And with those, how do you build a society ?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.86,0:03:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably with two parallel speeds. But one gear can switch to the next one easily.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.82,0:04:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't seem shocking to me, nor unfair.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.82,0:04:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you feel like you want to take part in politics, you switch sides
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.14,0:04:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and become a citizen with rights and duties.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.86,0:04:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'll just tag along that idea
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.96,0:04:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Some amongst you never speak up so maybe we can...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.82,0:04:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, maybe I should stop talking.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.96,0:04:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 90% or 20% or even 50%, will the people in power, the 1%, let us get that far?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.56,0:04:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Ah very good point and it's sure they'll try everything to stop us.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.76,0:04:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a real objection.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.20,0:04:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Our actual system, in short.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.28,0:04:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes and it's an objection, but maybe we should keep it for last.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.76,0:04:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My way of bringing forward a solution,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.52,0:04:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what seems to me as a possibility, is the viral way. I'll just point it out shortly
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.100,0:04:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you see where I am getting at.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.71,0:04:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't beleive that we'll rise up today.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.12,0:04:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, we'll just loose. We aren't enough to fight it, they are just too strong
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.17,0:04:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with that in balance, we wouldn't win. What I am saying is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.88,0:05:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if we manage to have a simple idea, a powerful idea, and that it takes all
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.08,0:05:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the injustices at their root. All or almost all, Alain.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.52,0:05:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll still have some, I know. But still, imagine that we solve many
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.28,0:05:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by making ourselves powerful enough to resist to injustice.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.65,0:05:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine that we manage to pass on the message amongst our mists.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.55,0:05:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each time that we gather, we are fourty, fifty, sixty, a hundred.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.33,0:05:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if we are twenty! Imagine even if we are ten!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.99,0:05:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine that you alone manage a factor 10 each time that you are busy
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.91,0:05:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spreading the word to other "white blood cells". You convince them,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.43,0:05:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not in one go, you'll have to come at it again, see them twice or thrice.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.99,0:05:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You work on it because there is a desintoxication period.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.97,0:05:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been trained a lifetime to beleive the opposite of democracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.42,0:05:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we are discovering on our own, you won't convince people in one night.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.30,0:05:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll have to discuss, come back, find elements so that the debate picks up flavour,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.34,0:05:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people want it. People from whom we received critisim,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.45,0:06:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they must want to come back for more. Find the way to touch them. Let's imagine you have a factor ten.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.65,0:06:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will become exponential. And an exponential grows very fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.30,0:06:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A viral idea is made possible with the help of Internet
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.44,0:06:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- and that's as long as we still have it so we must hurry - it could work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.24,0:06:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are thousands to want this - which isn't the case now -
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.68,0:06:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if we are thousands to want this, we'll have it without bloodshed.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.60,0:06:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people who took power after the Revolution, they manage when we're tens of thousands...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.76,0:06:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's insane: that's a lot of people, tens of thousands.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.92,0:06:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should see pictures of the Commune of Paris.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.79,0:06:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people of Paris must have thought: "We're invulnerable".
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.47,0:06:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The streets were full of people fraternizing. They feared no one anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.88,0:06:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They were more than 500 000 in Greece (nowadays), and that didn't change anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.54,0:06:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And it didn't change much. So I'm talking about millions.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.63,0:06:56.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to be many. And that's not all. They were 500 000 in Greece
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.99,0:07:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were scattered! At the moment, we need a bond.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.71,0:07:09.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're missing a common ideal. A central idea that we know
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.95,0:07:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is common and we know we shouldn't deviate from.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.35,0:07:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can still talk about all the other issues, for sure,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.35,0:07:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there should be that one thing we won't negociate or compromise:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.07,0:07:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We don't want professionals for the Constitutional Assembly."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.08,0:07:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can debate, but this point won't be subject to debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.27,0:07:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that is our bond, that would really be something.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.15,0:07:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you read Marx, you find many interesting ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.66,0:07:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there, in a sens, he completly failed.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.36,0:07:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says nothing about the constitutional process. For him, the Constitution is the result.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.48,0:07:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a consequence of the balance of power. He's right in a way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.45,0:07:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he's wrong because it is the tool that changes the balance of power.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.99,0:07:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey! There should be something that should get you thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.91,0:07:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when banks write the Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.15,0:07:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they write the Constitution? They're less ignorant than we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.59,0:08:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We say: "It's the result of a balance of power,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.55,0:08:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't need to take care of it. It will automatically come from a change in the balance of power."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.87,0:08:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Banks are less ignorant: they write the European Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.89,0:08:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was written by them. They understood that it was the core piece to be played.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.37,0:08:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Gendarmes obey to the Constitution. \NThe Army obeys the Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.90,0:08:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Policemen are very "legalistic". They obey the Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.19,0:08:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Your conference is too long." I hope I'm not boring you all? You guys are great.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.21,0:08:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can write to me on the website if it's getting late and we...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.78,0:08:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The banks...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.98,0:08:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. The bankers write the Constitution. Policemen obey the Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.96,0:08:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we find the way, not to write a perfect Constitution,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.78,0:08:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a Constitution with our ideas even if it's not perfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.30,0:08:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the core that we need to spread to others.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.90,0:09:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to convince that it will work because we'll be many.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.30,0:09:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure that since it is a conflict of interest with people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.42,0:09:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who want us to be powerless, who write those rules.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.30,0:09:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In those rules, you can program our impotency
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.90,0:09:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or our strength. In the Constitution, you can program either our strength
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.43,0:09:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or our impotency. If that Constitution is written
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.47,0:09:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all around the world, during our history, by people who have a personal interest
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.02,0:09:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our impotency... then you've found something. Marx for example never spotted it.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.38,0:09:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not completly anti-marxiste. It's complementary.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.61,0:09:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I honestly beleive that the 99% will have finally the means to resist
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.47,0:09:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of abandoning power, at least that kind of power,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.06,0:09:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we abandoned the great power that defines how we will write the rules;
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.97,0:09:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we will be able to resist instead of being pushed out.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.78,0:10:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must never abandon that power. Even if you don't take part in politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.61,0:10:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are here tonight, you're already taking part in a way. But what we need to say
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.68,0:10:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those who don't do politics, and you're not concerned in this situation,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.17,0:10:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I receive every day emails from people who landed on the website by sheer luck.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.24,0:10:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They saw a conference on Internet - and they didn't do politics before,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.18,0:10:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had renounced - and they write: "I've found something!
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.12,0:10:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to start looking at politics again!." This idea of taking the control back
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.45,0:10:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the consitutional process, not the complete politics, is appealing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.76,0:10:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take control of the constituant by saying: "I'm going to watch out
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.48,0:10:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those writing the rules, up there, aren't in a conflict of interest."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.92,0:10:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll have many counter-powers put in place. Control systems
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.96,0:10:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will make sure that they watch each other and that you, you can watch them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.16,0:10:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll have a lot less to fear in the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.81,0:10:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're not interested, you won't need to
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.78,0:10:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do politics, you'll be more protected because you took care of the start process,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.06,0:11:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of all the consequences. There's just too many of those to divide us.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.50,0:11:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That squatter us. You will have taken care of the root. The only thing
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.30,0:11:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that should unite us. This fertile ground where all the injustice grow from.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.92,0:11:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our political impotency. And now you're wound up.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.54,0:11:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that we are so powerless in the Constitution?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.58,0:11:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is there such a bad Constitution?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.98,0:11:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because those who wrote it are in conflict of interest.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.38,0:11:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we change that ? How can we not have conflict of interest ?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.82,0:11:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you have climbed to the root of causes.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.68,0:11:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am giving you this image of roots where I find the cause of causes,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.78,0:11:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root that starts it all. The fact that there are politic professionals
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.50,0:11:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have an interest in the Constitution. The Constitution, they should fear it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.94,0:11:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They shouldn't be writing it ! That's "Chouardesc".
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.71,0:11:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Don't you think that, added to the control of the Constitution,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.42,0:11:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should also take control of "logos" [greek], of the field of words?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.67,0:11:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Of the Constitutional Counsel ? You mean those who apply the Constitution ?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.13,0:11:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No but of ourselves. It's like you said at the beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.61,0:11:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the conference: the fact that nowadays, the words have their opposite meaning.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.28,0:12:06.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Democracy" for example.\N- Ah yes, that's for sure\N- We should also reaquire the lexical fields.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.69,0:12:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "Logos". I am under the impression that we are going more and more towards
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.33,0:12:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a world like George Orwell described with the "Newspeak".
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.67,0:12:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The terms have completly been hackneyed, transformed.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.71,0:12:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't mean anything anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.87,0:12:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Of course, of course, of course.\N- [...]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.62,0:12:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Alright. Let's give ourselves 20 minutes and then there's a small pot luck.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.21,0:12:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 minutes? That's awfully short.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.53,0:12:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Grenoble, at the end of December, we finished at 1:30 AM.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.51,0:12:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had eyes like that. We didn't fall asleep neither!
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.55,0:12:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We finished at 1:30 AM because we really had to stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.82,0:12:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'll rebound on Boris' idea and go in the same direction:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.31,0:12:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we all agree on how it is now. It's not good.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.99,0:12:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start more with the idea that we shouldn't seperate
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.23,0:12:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but do a fusion of politics, economy and history and make one same job out of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.68,0:13:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you'd need that the voters be technical people.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.07,0:13:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is that they only get to vote for the people taking part in the discussions
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.48,0:13:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who become technicians. By using this method, the whole debate will change.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.47,0:13:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who actually will become candidates,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.43,0:13:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they won't have a passionate speech like "Get France at work",
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.51,0:13:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll actually have a very technical speech, because they will know
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.47,0:13:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their audience, those electing them, are also technical.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.99,0:13:24.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They will have way pro's and con's ant that they won't be fools
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.33,0:13:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like those who actually don't care and who are completly influenced
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.67,0:13:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by current marketing technics.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.51,0:13:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's a good argument, but...
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.28,0:13:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Anyone can be a technicians
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.60,0:13:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they come in.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.69,0:13:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They are trained to become technicians ?\N- That's it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.99,0:13:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You've got something there that's attractive and repulsive at the same time.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.44,0:13:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's attractive because it's true
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.94,0:13:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that technicians will probably be less passionate.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.70,0:13:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But finaly, I beleive that's it's a bait.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.12,0:14:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, we are in a government of technicians. And it's horrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.20,0:14:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I meant the people become technicians.\N- You're not using the correct wording.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.68,0:14:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- People who at least are interested by something.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.27,0:14:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's actually coming back to Boris' idea, here.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.10,0:14:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's going in his direction.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.26,0:14:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes but it's not necessarily technician. I find that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.31,0:14:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bet the Athenians made that says that political skill doesn't exist,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.75,0:14:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that political technic doesn't exist, is a good one. We're all capable to taste chicken
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.58,0:14:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say: "It's good, it's bad". And still, we're incapable of
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.06,0:14:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making it good or bad. It's an image of Alain in "Words about the powers"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.58,0:14:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It must be the best book I have ever read - and I've read many -
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.02,0:14:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I honestly beleive it to be the best in the world. I'm just slightly exagerating
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.18,0:14:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'd probably put two or three up there,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.22,0:14:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the "Words about the powers" is just a marvel, a real marvel.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.75,0:14:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He talked about the objection about skill. He said:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.21,0:14:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," It's not reasonable to get tricked by..."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.90,0:14:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't use those exact words but it's not normal that parlementarians
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.71,0:14:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should trick the voter into beleiving that they are skilled and we aren't.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.61,0:15:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He takes the image of the politics' consumer that are the citizens
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.99,0:15:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have delegated to the parlementarians in exchange of services,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.55,0:15:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who say: "I am well capable of knowing that what you have now given me isn't good,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.50,0:15:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you need to be punished even if I am not technician. I'll just say
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.47,0:15:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have not achieved your result." There is another image when he talks about
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.01,0:15:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing who is the master of the ship. He says: "Yes, maybe that we need
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.59,0:15:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technicians at the parlement who are the ships' captain,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.12,0:15:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who know how to navigate the ship, be we are the ships' owner."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.51,0:15:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is we say where the ship has to go.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.27,0:15:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Captains don't decide of the destination of their ship, owners do. Images let you understand.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.36,0:15:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my eyes, the technician, it's just like Keynes said: "Economists,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.52,0:15:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fly to the back seat! They're not going to have the steering wheel!"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.19,0:15:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Technicians should be the same. They shouldn't hold the steering wheel.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.60,0:15:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise we'll end up with Big Brother. But at the same time, I understand your point.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.46,0:15:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You're mixing economist, banker, and financial people.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.71,0:15:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's all the same to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.75,0:15:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, an economist is someone who has worked, who has theories,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.83,0:16:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with books of thousands of pages, and who has as goal
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.70,0:16:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get the folk richer, with social justice. Economists
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.23,0:16:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work towards that. It's nothing to do with financial people and bankers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.92,0:16:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who try to scratch every penny off our backs.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.31,0:16:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The immense majority of economists are payed off by finance people
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.19,0:16:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by sales people who try to legitimiate the domination by the rich.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.69,0:16:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have exceptions, but globally, economists are...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.24,0:16:26.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think that the first thing we should do, is to try and make people realise
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.35,0:16:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are in pure political consumption nowadays.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.20,0:16:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They should see that there is another way to see politics. That would already be a step.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.31,0:16:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make them realise that we can act at our own level.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.79,0:16:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, but you must hear Alexander as well because I've also lived through it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.30,0:16:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many times. There are many people,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.79,0:16:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you come and talk politics, who say: "Wait a second, you've just talked about politics here.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.19,0:16:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've listened to you because we're friends. But don't
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.35,0:16:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do this to me a second time, otherwise I'll just never come again."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.14,0:17:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just don't want to hear about it at all. They want to hear about soccer,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.41,0:17:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,television and so on. And still, they vote. So Boris' idea is a very good one.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.87,0:17:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They've done everything so that it is that way.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.38,0:17:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Watch out, watch out! No, please, watch out.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.16,0:17:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In what Boris has said, there is something very important.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.08,0:17:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually a couple of things. That is that civilians must be protected.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.61,0:17:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we called "civilians" anyhow. I like the word, I had never used it like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.40,0:17:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not ? But you could use "electing citizen".
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.04,0:17:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is civilians who are voters.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.51,0:17:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why do you need to make a distinction?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.69,0:17:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You have to. People aren't the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.64,0:17:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are we equal as human beings?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.42,0:17:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do you mean? Please try to develop
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.07,0:17:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your thought. What do you mean by that?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.23,0:17:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We aren't equal.\N- We aren't equal in the will that we put into things.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.20,0:17:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- If you have civilians on one side and citizens on the other, you have no equality.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.10,0:17:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is your name?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.52,0:17:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Monique.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.86,0:17:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Monique, can we not say that we are all equals
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.82,0:17:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sens that we all have the right to become citizen whenever we want ?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.85,0:18:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monique, this isn't a twist and twirl. It's not a political lie
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.51,0:18:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that hides a non when it said yes or the opposite. It's just true.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.29,0:18:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it not a true liberty, a true equality to say:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.03,0:18:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," As long as you don't want to, you aren't, and when you wan, you will be. "
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.88,0:18:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that not an equality ? We don't have to all do the same things, Monique.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.88,0:18:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's like becoming French, you need to choose. That's just wrong to have to choose.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.36,0:18:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, but it's the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.43,0:18:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't agree with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.92,0:18:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why does it bother you?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.91,0:18:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I find it shocking..
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.24,0:18:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's not just the French. I think that all human beings in the world say that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.84,0:18:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Either we're all citizens or we're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.74,0:18:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Then go operate on people as a doctor. And the next day, you'll see the result. You can't become
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.08,0:18:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a doctor overnight. However each of us has equal chances.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.19,0:18:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to become a doctor like him, you can.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.51,0:18:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, Alexandre, that's not the objection. Alexandre
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.76,0:18:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that not a real objection because in politics, there are no skills.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.40,0:19:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't compare with a doctor. It's not the correct answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.32,0:19:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's not a question of skill, it's a question of will.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.56,0:19:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Doctor has a skill. The answer using the image of the doctor
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.92,0:19:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not fit to answer Monique. Monique says:
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.22,0:19:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wait a second. We're equal or we aren't equal. If we're equal,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.35,0:19:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't start making political distinctions between people."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.28,0:19:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you say: "You have to admit that we aren't equal.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.64,0:19:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The doctor has a skill that you must reconize."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.22,0:19:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The democractes in Athens, they didn't say
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.32,0:19:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you needed to randomnly pick someone to be a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.72,0:19:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's not equality of knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.60,0:19:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What Monique is asking for is political equality, not equality of knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.02,0:19:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Monique, that's actually very interesting. It's a very interesting and important subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.61,0:19:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- For me, equality isn't equality of chances or equality of will.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.71,0:19:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We aren't all equal in regards to the will
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.41,0:20:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can have towards an object. You need to want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.98,0:20:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We are all equal, we are all...
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.97,0:20:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Monique
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.51,0:20:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You shouldn't have to impose equality, simply.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.34,0:20:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Monique, what Boris is saying isn't a political inequality.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.62,0:20:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not saying politically, we're not equal. He say that there is a political equality
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.78,0:20:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a inequality of will.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.72,0:20:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm not skilled! I've heard about you three weeks ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.12,0:20:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't graduated highschool, I'm not skilled. I paint buildings. I don't know anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.99,0:20:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know nothing. What I want to say is: Boris, you have people like me
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.20,0:20:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who aren't skilled. We are several like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.51,0:20:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But you are skilled because you are here.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.50,0:20:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, I am not skilled. I didn't want to bother with politics. I'm in the 99%.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.10,0:20:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And yet you are here. You're here.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.51,0:20:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm happy because it started to interest me. There is something
Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.22,0:21:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that spoke to me.\N- Because you want it.\N- I am motivated.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.30,0:21:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because you are here, your vote counts more than that of someone who isn't here.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.74,0:21:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all. That's what we're trying to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.64,0:21:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's why it's very important not to talk about skill, Alexandre.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.48,0:21:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I am not against it. What I mean is that I think there is a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.62,0:21:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A problem of wording.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.16,0:21:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You say that you've followed what he's been doing for 6 years. I have been for 3 weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.22,0:21:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I have wrongly chosen my words. But I honestly think that someone like you
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.63,0:21:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is more apt to vote than someone who never came at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.53,0:21:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because she wants it. Because she wants it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.56,0:21:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's true, Monique. You see how it holds together?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.26,0:21:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is bothering you, Monique?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.51,0:21:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- For me, it's not unequal. That's why it's getting me angry
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.70,0:21:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we say it's unequal. For me, the fact that you are here,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.30,0:21:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the proof that it has nothing to do with social background. It's the will to want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.72,0:21:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to want it is simply enough as criteria. If you don't want it,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.35,0:21:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you should be able to vote because it's a weapon of mass destruction
Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.08,0:22:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to let someone who doesn't care vote.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.66,0:22:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is bothering you, Monique?\N- Look, political extremists, they have the will.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.68,0:22:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why are you talking about extremists? You have the far right, the far left, the center.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.81,0:22:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We're talking about the will to be citizen or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.27,0:22:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.75,0:22:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They're in the dark. Can someone put a light on?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.82,0:22:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How can you judge the aptitude,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.96,0:22:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is necessary to become a citizen?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.18,0:22:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we're talking about personal aptitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.47,0:23:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We're talking about the will! If they want it, only if they want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.91,0:23:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And someone who doesn't have the will. It's a question of education...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.27,0:23:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each of us, how come we are who we are? How do you end up being interested
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.61,0:23:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how are you capable of making the distinction between a civilian and a citizen?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.29,0:23:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The idea is to put marketing aside and it's influence on us,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.56,0:23:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the people who don't care. Those people come to vote
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.98,0:23:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are undecided, voting yes or no on a hunch.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.75,0:23:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," That one is pretty, I'll vote yes or no. " And in the end,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.100,0:23:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he could do a lot more damage than good. But if you are interested...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.21,0:23:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I find that you are making too many jugements.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.15,0:23:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Let her give an anwer.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.09,0:23:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's a beautiful ping-pong here. But it would be grand
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.59,0:23:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you didn't talk simultanously. It's really a great exchange.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.52,0:24:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very interesting. But we should develop a sort of discipline.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.35,0:24:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When one is talking, no one else talks.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.51,0:24:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time, it's very interesting. One questions and then another answers.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.32,0:24:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then the first needs to answer back because it's not finished.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.26,0:24:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monique hasn't finished. She needs to be able to defend her point of view.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.17,0:24:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But please don't talk at the same time.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.87,0:24:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can impose my speech because I have a microphone here but
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.69,0:24:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you guys don't have one. So you need to listen closely to hear. It's important
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.95,0:24:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we all stop talking when you are in a ping-pong debate. It's very interesting what you've been saying
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.32,0:24:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm sure it's just a question of wording. It's actually quite defendable to have the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.86,0:24:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of multiple regimes. A little bit like when we accept
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.50,0:24:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that someone doesn't go voting. We give him the right not to vote
Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.10,0:24:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he uses his power only when he votes. Monique, is that it ? No?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.76,0:24:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't force them to vote?\N- Not at all.\N- Then it's the same here.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.63,0:24:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy who isn't a citizen, he can become one.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.46,0:24:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why give a particular name to the guy who doesn't vote?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.87,0:25:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because there is power for those
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.87,0:25:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are citizens and who want it. But you can solve this.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.39,0:25:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are imagining a position / status. In my opinion
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.32,0:25:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you have a large assembly and people come like in Athens
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.99,0:25:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depending on what the subject is... you already have the distinction.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.14,0:25:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.07,0:25:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you don't need a position / status, Boris. You see what I mean ?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.39,0:25:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we vote our laws, that is that we stop accepting
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.25,0:25:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be represented. We say: "We don't want representatives anymore,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.99,0:25:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to vote our laws ourselves." Then, when we assemble,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.98,0:25:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neighbourhood by neighbourhood, town by town, we vote directly our laws.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.84,0:25:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that case, we are exactly in the situation you already know.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.88,0:25:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you already accept. People come to vote if they want to,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.17,0:25:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you won't force the others. Come to vote those who want.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.73,0:25:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thos who come are those who want. Those are your citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.42,0:25:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to tag them with a name or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.14,0:25:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What you're advising is the final goal. I would like
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.23,0:25:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we reach it.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.67,0:25:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And you don't need a special name tag for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.46,0:25:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But in the mean time, you need a politic, let us say, of "evangelisation" of the citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.47,0:26:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's not the right word!\N- What you're looking for is a lever.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.46,0:26:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Don't take it personnaly, it's just a word.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.09,0:26:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You need a distinction, you need two tags at start to motivate people.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.83,0:26:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make them citizens. You need to motivate civilians to transform them into Citizens.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.82,0:26:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Boris, you do get the feeling that... I understand your aptitude.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.98,0:26:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You count on the aristoractic aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.53,0:26:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but aristocratic in the good sens of the word.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.22,0:26:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the legion of honor (NT: french honorary medal).
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.03,0:26:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.92,0:26:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- a sort of diploma to make people want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.59,0:26:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make them want to take part because people are touched by
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.33,0:26:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medals. Others see that as discrimination.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.100,0:26:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say: "Wait, you have two categories of citizens here."
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.25,0:26:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll have, like they used to say during the French Revolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.48,0:26:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was shameful, you had active citizens, those who voted,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.82,0:26:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and passive citizens who weren't worth anything. It's revolting.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.53,0:26:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that's not what you're thinking of and still, that's what it suggests.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.97,0:26:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's just too long, your involvment" - that's what the tag, the diploma suggests.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.64,0:27:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my eyes, we don't need it.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.50,0:27:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The will is The thing in the world best shared,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.05,0:27:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone has will, what ever the social class you belong to, what ever the...
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.78,0:27:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's very interesting but I find that what you are proposing
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.10,0:27:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it supposes that the problem is already solved.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.60,0:27:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What shall we do if the people have already taken back political power
Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.13,0:27:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how shall we organise it? I think that what is more interesting,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.85,0:27:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in that case, you can imagine many positive, creative things and so on...
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.63,0:27:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...You see what I mean ?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.41,0:27:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I am more interested about is how to get the message through to the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.43,0:27:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to "snow ball effect" it all ? How we manage to federate each other
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.82,0:27:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be white blood cells and put the tools in place together?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.28,0:27:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To work with Internet, with a decentralised organisation. That's what is the core right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.86,0:27:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we need to think about the "form". How are we going to present things?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.76,0:28:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The critism we receive it not on the core of random draw / common lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.08,0:28:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more on the form. It the random draw
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.16,0:28:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really that essential thing? Or is it controling our elected representatives?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.60,0:28:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then again, short mandates, non-renewable,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.20,0:28:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sword of Damocles that should stay above them. So if we want a real movement
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.84,0:28:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we pass ideas through, do we first talk about the random draw ?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.88,0:28:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems essential in the constitutional process
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.13,0:28:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then I think that it's rather on other ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.12,0:28:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should focus that are far more important.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.49,0:28:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since we write "Central process: the random draw / common lot."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.96,0:28:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to ask yourselves if, in the end, it is not less central
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.28,0:28:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than other elements. Second point, to finish,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.94,0:28:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's on the root of causes. I don't beleive there is a root to the causes,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.87,0:28:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sens that the causality isn't linear, cartesian,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.00,0:28:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is rather complex. There are multiple things
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.02,0:28:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are going to co-create reality. So we have many points.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.37,0:28:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So: is it the monetary system or is it
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.15,0:29:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lack of attention towards who writes the Constitution? Or is it,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.61,0:29:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an example, rarety of goods? \NBefore, when bread was available
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.56,0:29:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 100 people, we'll all fight for it. It's mechanical.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.08,0:29:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It always worked that way. We have erased rarety
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.10,0:29:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through technology. Today, we live in a society of abundance.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.52,0:29:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of opulence sometimes, and we keep it going. So you have to think
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.67,0:29:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our economical system and its' mechanisms and contingencies,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.01,0:29:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but more it's mechanisms, are maintained for rarety
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.03,0:29:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to maintain the monetary system. It's Thorstein Veblen who said, at the beggining of the century,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.09,0:29:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an institutionalist economist, who had a global vision of society:
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.83,0:29:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sociology, economy, politics, right, and so on,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.36,0:29:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he showed that there is a real paradox between the usage value and the merchant value.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.91,0:29:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The usage value is what the engineers planned for it's use. The use you have
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.34,0:29:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that good or service. The engineers will create the abundance (or try).
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.78,0:30:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To create systems that will produce more with less and so on.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.17,0:30:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the merchant value is, in fact, the law of offer and demand.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.84,0:30:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more abundant a good, the less it costs.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.28,0:30:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more rare a skill is, the higher its' price.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.14,0:30:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that you understand. The more it is abundant
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.31,0:30:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the less expensive it is and the less profit you can make.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.94,0:30:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you maintain the factories and the machines so they don't produce too much.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.84,0:30:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rarety is maintained by the economical system, by the logic of profit.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.67,0:30:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's also central. So let's come back
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.40,0:30:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to economory rather than: what will we do
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.78,0:30:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the problem is already solved?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.41,0:30:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'll start with the second, the multifactorial.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.59,0:30:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's true that you have many factors involved and when you are searching the root of causes
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.76,0:31:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you won't find a unique cause. That's not what we're looking for: we're looking
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.89,0:31:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to heal a sickness. And the root of causes, it's amongst the very first ones
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.21,0:31:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-and it's true that you can have more than one- we're looking for at least a determining one.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.74,0:31:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One that determines the others. That means, by definition, that if you change it, you change everything
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.83,0:31:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that runs from it. That's what we're looking for. So maybe you are right:
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.10,0:31:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe we'll find another way that the one I am suggesting which is to change the right of right
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.30,0:31:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop having a injuste right and get out of all the injustices.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.72,0:31:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I say that we have to reestablish our political power,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.63,0:31:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I count on chance and multiplicity, the biodiversity of our requirements
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.23,0:31:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of our strifes, once we have made ourselves powerful, we will be capable
Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.61,0:32:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of correcting injustices. Or at least a great number of injustices.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.53,0:32:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we will have solved something that is determining.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.58,0:32:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that it's not everything
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.54,0:32:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know very well that there are many factors.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.33,0:32:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our political prison has been built by the most rich
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.83,0:32:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the 1% have started with the help of their wealth
Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.47,0:32:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corrupting political actors now to make sure they become richer than rich.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.04,0:32:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's Bonaparte, and I musn't use curse words, that awful clown of Bonaparte,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.02,0:32:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who pushed by the financial people who wanted to build the Bank of France,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.43,0:32:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who won all the wars, because he got payed his wars.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.62,0:32:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they helped him everywhere. Each time he has enemies, they get pushed aside.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.95,0:32:41.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We fabricate his chance!
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.59,0:32:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until on day, he sends it back your way and creates the Bank, called "Bank of France"
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.48,0:32:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but is in reality the beggining of the grand racketeering that put those people
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.38,0:32:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in control of the power all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.81,0:32:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that the starting point was wealth.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.07,0:33:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what multiplied by ten their wealth was universal suffrage.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.94,0:33:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what let them, through parlementarians, to take control of the production of rights.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.38,0:33:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we get that, we'll boost it all. We might not
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.90,0:33:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get rid of the rich or cupidity, but at least we'll take away the turbo button from the engine.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.54,0:33:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By taking away universal suffrage, after 200 years, we prove
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.52,0:33:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it hasn't held up to it's promises. By taking away the turbo, by putting instead the random draw with all the counter-powers
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.89,0:33:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that go with it: we'll partially regain political power. It will help us solve the problems we have.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.21,0:33:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that it's not a "cure-all", and I am not expecting perfection.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.87,0:33:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, I've answered your two points I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.98,0:33:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when you say: "Random draw is not essential,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.62,0:33:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor central, it's controlling the elected representatives that is." The problem is that the control of the elected representatives
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.31,0:34:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to program it in a Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.16,0:34:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frédéric. It's Frédéric right ? \N- Sebastien\N- Sebastien, sorry
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.12,0:34:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sebastien, to get the control of the elected representatives. You'll have to write it in a Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.82,0:34:13.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you say: "The most imporant is the control of the elected representatives."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.100,0:34:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That control, I've seen it as well. When I analysed,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.67,0:34:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said: "My political impotency, it comes from the fact that I can't control my elected representatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.15,0:34:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can't I control them ? It's because I have a bad Constitution.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.41,0:34:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do I have a bad Constitution? Because the elected representatives write it!"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.83,0:34:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand what you are saying but for me, that's a starting point.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.68,0:34:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's one of the causes. And even better, it's one of the root of the causes.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.30,0:34:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you tell me: "You just need to control your representatives." I'll tell you: "Well yes." But how are you going to do that?
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.53,0:34:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't solve the problem of who writes the Constitution, you let the representatives
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.71,0:34:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,write the Constitution. You can wait ages that they write the control of the representatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.38,0:34:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never will! You see what I am saying? In that logic of multiple factors,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.68,0:34:55.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have determining factors. It is because the representatives write the Constitution that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.72,0:34:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't see the control of representatives in the Constitution. Not the other way around!
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.34,0:35:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- For me, it's because we have rarety that we are obliged to organise ourselves with the market principle. You didn't have enough
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.42,0:35:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to distribute to everyone. Se we were obliged to enter a model with concurrence and competition.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.54,0:35:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is the link between market system and who writes the Constitution ?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.05,0:35:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The root of causes of what ? The root of causes of our actual problems?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.17,0:35:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Of our political powerlessness!
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.95,0:35:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Alright.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.31,0:35:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Of our political impotency to resist on money, to resist to rarety, to resist on the injust right of a company (on it's employees),
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.69,0:35:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to resist on... Our political impotency has a powerful cause that, in my opinion, can be solved with the random draw.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.62,0:35:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What he wants to say is that we might need, at a punctual moment, to have a mass of people randomnly chosen to write
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.35,0:35:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a robust Constitution. - A just one.\N- Suffisiantly robust that we don't need to randomnly draw afterwards. Maybe that's what he's been trying to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.33,0:35:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Absolutly! Absolutly! I agree with that! In my opinion, we'd still need some of it. We're not obliged to have a complete democracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.98,0:35:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not at all. I am becoming, progressively, without wanting to, a defender of that kind of regime.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.35,0:36:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because apparently, by explaining it I help make people understand what could help us to get out of this mess.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.22,0:36:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it is things that have worked, that have been tested, ground, bettered over 200 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.28,0:36:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could really use it. \NBut in parallel to these thoughts about pure democracy,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.00,0:36:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true democracy, I also have many advanced thoughts, very varied, very documented on how to to improve the representative government.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.48,0:36:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd keep elected representatives, we'd keep MPs, simply we'd control them a lot better.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.29,0:36:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I still need random draw / common lot for the Constitutional Assembly.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.14,0:36:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless you find a better idea than the random draw to end up with desinterested Constitutional Assembly.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.02,0:36:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A royal dictatorship.\N- Why not ? But you need garantees.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.42,0:36:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How ?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.40,0:36:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The problem of the Sauvé Report (NT: about conflict of interest in public society), MP's just sat on it. It's what I told you:
Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.30,0:37:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask representatives to write rules to which they have to submit. On conflict of interests in particular,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.23,0:37:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see that it doesn't work.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.61,0:37:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our senators don't want to vote the law. The Nationale Assembly doesn't feel thrilled by it. So I'm completly with you on this.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.25,0:37:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So we agree to make it a priority ? Maybe not the only one,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.28,0:37:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a priority it's better when it's alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.20,0:37:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A priority to solve maybe not all situations, Alain. Alain is gone ? - Yes. \N- Rats... Well maybe not to solve all problems,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.79,0:37:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to solve a great deal. Can we agree on the idea of a priority that would be...\N- Changing the system.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.75,0:37:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That is to impose, to put in what we want,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.34,0:37:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Constitutional Assembly without political professionals.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.91,0:37:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who don't want to be in power. We want that in the Constitution, we want people who
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.50,0:37:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,renounce the futur power, first, then that they aren't professionals.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.03,0:38:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is there something about this that bothers you ?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.66,0:38:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It goes already too far and Venezuela has prooved that even with professionals of politics,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.94,0:38:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can still achieve something a lot better than what we have
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.41,0:38:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today in France. Even if it isn't real democracy,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.09,0:38:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they still have, through professionals who wrote the Constitution,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.33,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they still voted it in.\N- It's the people. They wrote it.