[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I would like to know your opinion or... what emerges from it... Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.00,0:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... about this small reading; that's going to be very short. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.00,0:00:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then: "Freedom of expression is applicable not only to information or ideas Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.00,0:00:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are favorably received or regarded as inoffensive or indifferent, Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.00,0:00:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to those that offend, shock or disturb. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... So goes with pluralism, tolerance and open-mindedness Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without which there is no democratic society." Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.00,0:00:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the European Court of Human Rights who wrote that in 1976. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.00,0:00:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does that inspire you? Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.00,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Eh, I go back in time... further, because... Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... I find this idea... in Athens, 2500 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.00,0:00:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Athenians cared about the isegoria, the right to speak for everyone, about every subject, Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.00,0:00:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at any time, the right to public speech. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.00,0:00:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They cared about it more than about the isonomia, equality before the law and... Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.00,0:01:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They cared about it because, in fact, it was as an hygienic measure, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.00,0:01:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a measure of protection, safeguarding democracy. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.00,0:01:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when we call on everyone... Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.00,0:01:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... we... it makes the citizens sentinels. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.00,0:01:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every citizen can become a ... a guardian of democracy Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.00,0:01:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a whistleblower of... drifts. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.00,0:01:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... the Athenians were well aware that... there were going to be... false alarms, Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.00,0:01:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dissident thoughts that would be... stupid or... hostile or ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.00,0:01:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... but it doesn't matter, it doesn't. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.00,0:01:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is better... As we don't know in advance what are the thoughts Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.00,0:01:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will be useful and those that will be harmful or... inappropriate, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.00,0:01:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as no one can say in advance what are the dissident thoughts Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.00,0:01:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are going to be useful or not, Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.00,0:01:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well then they are given... we call on everyone, they are allowed all. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.00,0:01:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.00,0:02:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... many great thinkers have... defended this freedom of expression as ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.00,0:02:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... a ... a base part of a free, pacified society. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.00,0:02:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... So on the one hand, this freedom of expression, Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.00,0:02:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it allows every citizen to become... a sentinel of democracy Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.00,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is not everything; there is also the will of... Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.00,0:02:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which... is in the background... which comes because a democracy ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.00,0:02:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... bets that we can, we all together, Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.00,0:02:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathered in an assembly, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.00,0:02:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not by officials but all of us directly. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.00,0:02:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So not all, because everyone doesn't come, but anyone who wants. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a democracy, necessarily direct... Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.00,0:02:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... indirect democracy is an oxymoron; democracy is mechanically Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.00,0:02:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by definition, direct, direct democracy, this is a pleonasm. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.00,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a direct democracy, we ... we bet that we are able Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make the right decisions for ourselves. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So of course, the oligarchs or representatives, ... elected officials... Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... claim that we are incompetent Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.00,0:03:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will make bad decisions. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the democrats know that... there is a risk of making bad decisions, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.00,0:03:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be... embedded by rhetoricians, ... speakers, Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.00,0:03:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who ... who, speaking well, will misguide us, will deceive us, Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.00,0:03:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will take us into the wrong... decisions. We know that: Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.00,0:03:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are rules to protect against demagogues. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.00,0:03:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we also know we can make mistakes. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.00,0:03:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there are procedures to change our mind, to... Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.00,0:03:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... make other decisions later, once we realize we made a mistake, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.00,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we... there are procedures for that. And above all... before making a decision, Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democrats, real democrats, who... organize direct democracy, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.00,0:04:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that of Athens, not even that of Switzerland, eh, it's more... Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.00,0:04:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... more generalized, more structurally... Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.00,0:04:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... popular, a real democracy, than Switzerland, eh. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.00,0:04:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland is the best we have on Earth at the moment but... Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.00,0:04:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... it's very very very flawed! Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.00,0:04:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,True democracy, therefore, as we decide our laws, Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.00,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly, without representatives - representatives do something else, they ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.00,0:04:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... but they don't make the laws - since we make our laws, Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is important, before making a decision, Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear all viewpoints. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.00,0:04:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the views we loathe. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.00,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Above all, Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.00,0:04:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially the views we loathe. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are plenty of moralists of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.00,0:04:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese philosophy, Japanese philosophy, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.00,0:04:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we find... aphorisms, ... proverbs, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.00,0:04:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all civilizations, almost, where... sages point out that ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.00,0:05:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... we'd better listen to people we don't want to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.00,0:05:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would be better, it is worthwhile to listen to people we don't want to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.00,0:05:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that often... those who... Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.00,0:05:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who speak ill of us, those who talk bad about us... Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.00,0:05:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,.. are those whom we have the most to draw to progress. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.00,0:05:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that those who flatter us and speak well of us are those who... Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.00,0:05:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... take us to the bad roads, bad habits. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, but then the democracy, by obliging us to listen publicly... Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.00,0:05:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... to people we don't want to listen, to people we hate, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.00,0:05:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people we would put in jail... Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.00,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I exaggerate, but just barely. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.00,0:05:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forcing us to it, it pacifies the group. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.00,0:05:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each individual doesn't want to hear such and such he hates, Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.00,0:05:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the group is going to benefit from the fact that conflicts are staged Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.00,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- this is an important word, that - in democracy ... Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The democracy stages the conflicts. It doesn't hide them, it doesn't overshadow them, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't put them under the rug. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A democracy gives voice to all dissident thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.00,0:06:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to enlighten the decisions so that the decisions are... Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.00,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... the least bad possible. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.00,0:06:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we don't seek perfection, we know we will make mistakes, it does not matter, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.00,0:06:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will be mistaken. We try to get it right, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.00,0:06:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if we're wrong, well we will change. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.00,0:06:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the elected officials representatives shall not try to persuade us that they don't make mistakes, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.00,0:06:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They make mistakes... as much as... Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.00,0:06:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... as we will make mistakes when... the people will decide. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I just interrupt... couple of seconds. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't you believe that today, there is a direction of.. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.00,0:06:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... there is a direction, first of all, which is made by the media? Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.00,0:06:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. But there, you think of manipulation. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A direction is not necessarily a manipulation. It is not necessarily a... Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.00,0:06:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... trickery. A direction, it can be... Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.00,0:06:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... a... Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.00,0:06:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... a decoration set, a... Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.00,0:07:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... an emphasis that is used to show something important. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.00,0:07:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not necessarily with an intention to lie. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.00,0:07:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be... Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the... Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.00,0:07:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the show in Athens, Greek tragedy, Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.00,0:07:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an educational tool to highlight, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.00,0:07:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a caricatural - but at the same moment clear - way, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.00,0:07:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the values defended by democracy. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.00,0:07:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... this is very important, it was not at all... Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.00,0:07:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that even today, the culture as... Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.00,0:07:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... folk art that serves to... Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.00,0:07:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... to show to children and young adults Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.00,0:07:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- and even to adults - the ... values that the City acknowledges, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.00,0:07:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this art is very important. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.00,0:07:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the... the ideology of management, Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.00,0:07:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our current ideology, there, the one of... merchants who can only count, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.00,0:07:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who only focus on that which is profitable, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.00,0:07:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only that which is profitable and... who destroy everything that is not profitable, Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything which is outside from... market logic, Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.00,0:08:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people are crazy! They are hemiplegic, they have only ... Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.00,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... half a brain, and yet... And when they destroy everything that is cultural Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is not profitable, it is madness. Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.00,0:08:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is called culture, according to you, today? Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.00,0:08:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you must see the work of Frank Lepage, which is really exciting in this field. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.00,0:08:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Culture should be political, Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.00,0:08:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it should be about the political education of young adults. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.00,0:08:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our grandparents, Franck... Franck explains that, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.00,0:08:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Franck Lepage explains that... our grandparents, at the end of the war,... Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.00,0:08:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... understood - the war had been a lesson - Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.00,0:08:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one could be extremely cultured Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.00,0:08:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Nazi. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.00,0:08:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the... democracy is... to save a democracy, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.00,0:08:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to preserve a free society, it was not enough to have a cultured elite, Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that... you could get cultured little rascals. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.00,0:08:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore, they deduced that it was necessary to educate children... Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not... to literature, to art but to politics. Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then possibly to art and literature but also... Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.48,0:09:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... especially to politics, to the values of democracy. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.00,0:09:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A bit like the Greek tragedy did. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.59,0:09:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He explains that Malraux and his successors depoliticized the culture, \N Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.68,0:09:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reduced - and it is a disaster - the culture in the art; Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.00,0:09:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that... depoliticizing the City, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.00,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's political. This is very conservative Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.00,0:09:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to depoliticize. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.00,0:09:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very interesting. So today, culture is ... it was reduced in ... Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... heavily in... intellectual tools that are not interesting Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.00,0:09:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the... in terms of social justice and resistance to... Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.00,0:09:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... the various projects of domination, the various ... various injustices. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.00,0:09:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is no fate, it is the popular universities... Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.00,0:10:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are still many of artists who fight on the political front. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.00,0:10:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But ... it's difficult, it is increasingly difficult for them today, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.00,0:10:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because ... merchants have colonized our imagination in taking the power, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.00,0:10:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because representative government empowers merchants, Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.00,0:10:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including money merchants who are the richest. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As they have power, they also have the power to suffocate... Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to suffocate... true culture, Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.00,0:10:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture worth the name, which would be a political culture.