WEBVTT 00:00:39.344 --> 00:00:41.916 I'm afraid that I'll forget to tell you, so I'll just tell you now; even if it's not 00:00:41.916 --> 00:00:46.160 the moment, it's alright. It hasn't been long since I'm in politics. 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:54.079 It's been 5 or 6 years, so I'm the new guy. I see the friends that I've been making in politics. 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.562 All these people that I meet from the left, center or right, 00:00:57.562 --> 00:01:06.386 All these people, they fight for the greater good. They're good people 00:01:06.386 --> 00:01:13.866 who seek the common interest, to best satisfy the common interest. They all fight against social injustice. 00:01:13.866 --> 00:01:19.065 They come from of all (political) sides... for example, some fight for Global Zero (nuclear weapons). 00:01:19.065 --> 00:01:23.847 For them, it's the most important. It's top priority, we're going to die! We have to fight against it. 00:01:23.847 --> 00:01:29.792 So that's what's most important for them. And for them, the guy who fights corruption, 00:01:29.792 --> 00:01:38.034 or the corruption of elected representatives, but who is for nuclear technology, he's the devil! 00:01:38.034 --> 00:01:43.956 It's a bit clumsy but alright. At the same time, others who fight against 00:01:43.956 --> 00:01:47.717 the destruction of schools. It's horrible, school are being destroyed, teachers put aside, 00:01:47.717 --> 00:01:51.665 hospitals are being all over the country, the country side is becoming a (clinical) desert 00:01:51.665 --> 00:01:55.519 Farmers are being ill treated. The country side is literally becoming a desert 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.863 and they are fighting on the subjet. Ok, Great! Others fight for the 00:01:58.863 --> 00:02:05.058 money and the creation of money and consider, they are right, that money creation is 00:02:05.058 --> 00:02:08.820 really important. That is that we have abandonned money creation, we have impoverish ourselves, 00:02:08.820 --> 00:02:16.139 all becomes hard for us because we are becoming poorer. We have put in place a scarity NOTE Paragraph 00:02:16.139 --> 00:02:21.488 that is chocking us. They are fighting on that subjet. They consider it essential. What I would like 00:02:21.488 --> 00:02:30.092 to tell you, is that I look at all this. I take part in the debats, I share them; 00:02:30.092 --> 00:02:36.927 It's not at all contradictory what I am about to say, it's complementary. It's seems to me that all these social struggles 00:02:36.927 --> 00:02:44.391 are solely fighting on "the branches", the consequences. 00:02:44.391 --> 00:02:50.167 Ecological catastrophy, it's not a cause - you know, 'Look for the root of causes' 00:02:50.167 --> 00:02:59.068 The ecological catastrophy, it's only made possible because of our political impotency. I am sure 00:02:59.068 --> 00:03:03.060 that if you ask people around you, even non-political people, they will tell you: 00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:07.728 "We should try to solve this problem. We should try to resist. We are all ready to resist, 00:03:07.728 --> 00:03:15.604 but we have no means to resist, we are politically powerless" And you will see 00:03:15.604 --> 00:03:19.568 that this policital impotency, so this is a cause. So to me it seems smarter to fight 00:03:19.568 --> 00:03:26.866 on this impotency than on the ecological catastrophy, the corruption of our representatives, work injustice 00:03:26.866 --> 00:03:32.867 in the companies, that extravagant "lordly" ownership on the people who work. 00:03:32.867 --> 00:03:38.804 It's a reason to fight, but it's just a consequence 00:03:38.804 --> 00:03:45.801 It's not the cause. The issues on water, and the ownership of water by multinationals, 00:03:45.801 --> 00:03:55.334 it's extravagant, we have to fight against it. But again, it's just consequences. And for all that, it seems to me that the cause... And after that, 00:03:55.334 --> 00:03:59.802 we should climb higher because the cause itself has yet another cause and that he has also another root. 00:03:59.802 --> 00:04:07.557 You have to find the root of causes. If we manage to escalate, if we manage to find 00:04:07.557 --> 00:04:13.349 a common cause, and to find from it the cause that makes it possible, 00:04:13.349 --> 00:04:18.906 and so on. We manage to find something that is central to all these social injustices 00:04:18.906 --> 00:04:26.830 and that is determining, that dertermins. I mean that if it exists, the social injustices are possible, 00:04:26.830 --> 00:04:31.400 and that if it doesn't exist, they will no longer be possible or they will be limited, then we have found 00:04:31.400 --> 00:04:36.801 something of very important because, at the same time, we have found the mean to really solve the problem; 00:04:36.801 --> 00:04:43.118 because you are not on ecology, you are on our political impotency, 00:04:43.118 --> 00:04:50.106 and you've made the link. If you fight less directly for ecology but more against our political impotency, 00:04:50.106 --> 00:04:53.799 you are still fighting for ecology. It's not incompatible ; we can fight 00:04:53.799 --> 00:04:58.873 on both fronts. But if now you are fighting against political impotency, because you have managed to realise the link 00:04:58.873 --> 00:05:02.946 you have then realised that if the multinational companies can hog so much 00:05:02.946 --> 00:05:09.183 while we are seeing them doing it. And we protest, and that's all we can do, since we have no political power. 00:05:09.183 --> 00:05:15.146 If you make the link and that you tell yourselves "OK, I'm looking for the root of causes and I'm building up 00:05:15.146 --> 00:05:22.037 against this root." You will realise that the guy who has done the same intellectual work than you: he works like... 00:05:22.037 --> 00:05:28.746 ... the two Pinçon-Charlot, he works on corruption... that the lifestyle of the rich 00:05:28.746 --> 00:05:34.225 and the way the rich manage to gather so much political power to 00:05:34.225 --> 00:05:40.844 finally be able to influence the making of laws and how favorably they are voted. So all this work on corruption of 00:05:40.844 --> 00:05:45.409 a groupe of resistants, added to their work - but it's very important to understand that they are fighting 00:05:45.409 --> 00:05:49.968 the consequences - but if they also start to fight against political impotency. 00:05:49.968 --> 00:05:53.746 And then you have the nuclear networks, etc. You will have all the resistants there 00:05:53.746 --> 00:06:01.780 who will say: "But finally, if we had political power, we would be able to resist!" 00:06:01.780 --> 00:06:07.466 Whereas all their lives... I see these old, these old resistants. They are much more valorous than I. 00:06:07.466 --> 00:06:11.227 They have spent their whole lives resisting while I was minding my own business. 00:06:11.227 --> 00:06:16.802 And they went on markets, giving out leaflets. Leaflets ! They had other things to do 00:06:16.802 --> 00:06:21.217 on a Wednesday than go on a market, but every Wednesday they went, giving out leaflets, 00:06:21.217 --> 00:06:28.339 organising meetings. They were fighters and they have that feeling that it's not bringing anything. 00:06:28.339 --> 00:06:35.615 They have the gut feeling that the score of our elected representatives that we want to see up there are becoming lower 00:06:35.615 --> 00:06:41.786 So when they hear me, when I say: "Wait, there's something better we can do here! If instead of fighting 00:06:41.786 --> 00:06:46.057 and splitting up because there are so many branches of social injustice that branch out of 00:06:46.057 --> 00:06:49.586 our political impotency, there are so many different consequences. Each of us 00:06:49.586 --> 00:06:53.528 who puts so much energy forth... We aren't many, ey; the guys who do politics, what's that ? 00:06:53.528 --> 00:06:59.729 It's 1% of the population. 2-3% it's not much. But if we are divided 00:06:59.729 --> 00:07:04.128 because each of us is fighting against consequences that are sincerly serious. And what he thinks serious, him, 00:07:04.158 --> 00:07:08.312 well it won't be what the next guy thinks is seriously worrysome. 00:07:08.312 --> 00:07:10.916 Not only are we just fighting the consequences, meaning that even if we manage to solve 00:07:10.916 --> 00:07:13.889 the problem, we won't have solved all the others. And it'll grow back 00:07:13.889 --> 00:07:21.113 because the root of the problem is still there. You cut the branch but it will carry on growing. So if you take 00:07:21.113 --> 00:07:26.871 the problem by its' root, if we were radical, by taking the issue at its' root, instead of cutting 00:07:26.871 --> 00:07:33.547 the branches, we take care of the root, and we get two birds with one stone. We have found 00:07:33.547 --> 00:07:38.762 the root of causes and we will be rid of all problems ! We even get three with one stone 00:07:38.762 --> 00:07:42.754 because in reality, since we have all made intellectual investigation by telling ourselves: 00:07:42.754 --> 00:07:46.042 "Let's take things logically, let's fight against the root 00:07:46.042 --> 00:07:50.031 like that we will have gotten all problems in one go, and we will have taken care of our political impotency." 00:07:50.031 --> 00:07:52.430 Where is our political impotency programmed ? I will come back to it later on, 00:07:52.430 --> 00:07:57.062 but you see me coming because we have already talked about it a little. With it, thirdly, we 00:07:57.062 --> 00:08:03.947 will be united ! There is a real stake here ! It's just a great idea, I beleive, 00:08:03.947 --> 00:08:10.653 to take the problem at its' root. I know, you're going to say, "Chouard, you're a nice guy, 00:08:10.653 --> 00:08:15.607 but it's your whim ! There ! Him, his whim, it's nuclear weapons. That guy, his wim is industrial corruption 00:08:15.607 --> 00:08:19.646 and you, it's the Constitution. Yes, well alright, maybe, it's true. It's maybe true that it's a whim. 00:08:19.646 --> 00:08:26.210 But it seems to me that it's logical. To me, I completly share the whim, that is of the priority of each; 00:08:26.210 --> 00:08:31.005 I beleive them to be beautiful these priorities. The guy fighting over money creation (debt money), 00:08:31.005 --> 00:08:35.602 he's working hard, clearing the way, he makes us understand what we could put there instead. 00:08:35.602 --> 00:08:40.163 When we'll have reconquered money creation, his work will be really useful. 00:08:40.163 --> 00:08:45.743 By the way, André-Jacques, we always talk about him, he agrees with me. He's actually integrated 00:08:45.743 --> 00:08:50.380 my piece of the puzzle like I have integrated his, and we become stronger. He hasn't become poorer because of it 00:08:50.380 --> 00:08:54.318 by giving me his idea and I haven't become poorer by giving him mine. That's what's great with ideas, 00:08:54.318 --> 00:08:57.450 it's that when we give them, we don't become poorer, we are mutually becoming richer. But what I want to say, 00:08:57.450 --> 00:09:09.943 is by concentrating on the root of causes, by applying the advice of Hippocrates, and by looking for 00:09:09.943 --> 00:09:17.027 the root of causes, all, with each of our actual priorities, by integrating the fact that... finally 00:09:17.027 --> 00:09:21.299 it's true that what stops us from getting rid of 00:09:21.299 --> 00:09:31.528 social injustices, is that we all, execpt our elected representatives and those who buy them off, 00:09:31.528 --> 00:09:40.505 we are politically powerless. Really, it's crucial 00:09:40.505 --> 00:09:44.739 to make social injustice possible and to keep it going on, living on and on. 00:09:44.739 --> 00:09:49.290 It's not because it's been that way for 200 years and even 2500 years, 00:09:49.290 --> 00:09:52.463 it's not because it has been that way for thousand of years that it will always be that way! 00:09:52.463 --> 00:09:57.186 It's a question of conscience. I have the dinstinct impression that we are in prehistorical politics here. 00:09:57.186 --> 00:10:01.655 That we are like children. Alright, maybe not children, at least unconscious, we haven't tought things through, 00:10:01.655 --> 00:10:06.717 but it's not a reason why we won't find a solution ! In my opinion, with the accumulated experience, 00:10:06.717 --> 00:10:11.441 with a Guillemin who explains. You can put things back in order, in the right place. 00:10:11.441 --> 00:10:15.309 And maybe, through modern tools that we didn't have before 00:10:15.309 --> 00:10:18.361 because they didn't have TV, they didn't have Internet. 00:10:18.361 --> 00:10:24.618 Internet is real important ! Internet is a technique, a piece of metal, 00:10:24.618 --> 00:10:30.344 but a piece of metal that gives us something that we have never had in the whole human history. 00:10:30.344 --> 00:10:40.061 Remember... out of all the human evolution... the invention of the pressing machine 00:10:40.061 --> 00:10:47.863 the invention of printing, it enabled the people, as a folk, to read and to discover knowledge 00:10:47.863 --> 00:10:52.600 therefore to progress, to make giant leapls in learning. We learn faster 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:57.569 because of printing, because we have the power to read, but we could only read 00:10:57.569 --> 00:11:08.272 what other had already written. And others...that was the elite. Elite in the sens, 00:11:08.272 --> 00:11:11.780 with or without quotes, that could be a true elite, good people. 00:11:11.780 --> 00:11:16.331 But we only had the right to read. Because to be able to write, you needed a VIP ticket 00:11:16.331 --> 00:11:22.573 that wasn't for us : for us, the masses. With Internet... it's probably as important 00:11:22.573 --> 00:11:26.104 than printing. In my eyes, it's really plausible. We don't know if they will 00:11:26.104 --> 00:11:33.699 maybe shut Internet down, but with it, we have the People, the normal folk. The 99% with Internet 00:11:33.699 --> 00:11:41.279 get access to writing. And therefore to short-circuit the elite, and eventually. 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:48.514 eventually the olgiarchic elite. That means to capture power and to use it for their own purpose, 00:11:48.514 --> 00:11:57.244 and for their interest against the common good. And so Internet, in that sens, is a tool 00:11:57.244 --> 00:12:02.912 an extraordinary tool to form ourselves, to self-educate, to educate the people ! And short-circuit 00:12:02.912 --> 00:12:09.670 our elites. By creating our own experts on this, experts on that and by teaching ourselves... 00:12:09.670 --> 00:12:15.192 It's incredible the number of things that has taught me André-Jacques, the work of André-Jacques Holbecq. 00:12:15.192 --> 00:12:21.718 I will show you his book; he has written many. This really good book, 00:12:21.718 --> 00:12:26.269 a good starting page, you'll see... He asked me to do it, it's great, 00:12:26.269 --> 00:12:29.354 I was proud. It's a really great book. A little book 00:12:29.354 --> 00:12:32.446 - easy to read - on the debt. And so André-Jacques 00:12:32.446 --> 00:12:39.740 the work he has done on money has made me move forward so much and without Internet 00:12:39.740 --> 00:12:46.210 I would have never discovered him. ...So where was I ? I was talking about 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:58.545 Hippocrates... I will take my notes, I made a small thread to follow. It's not a large thread, mind you... 00:12:58.545 --> 00:13:02.957 We should talk about... Well we have to start to set the word "Democracy" back in it's place 00:13:02.957 --> 00:13:11.554 We have to maybe put it correctly in it's set. So I'll start by chopping down... the election 00:13:11.554 --> 00:13:16.147 before talking about Athenian democracy. I will try to talk quickly about Athenian democracy, 00:13:16.147 --> 00:13:19.582 because, in truth, I can last on hour on that, maybe two on Athenian democray, but I shouldn't here. 00:13:19.582 --> 00:13:23.580 What we need, as I said, is that you can tell me what scares you in this. 00:13:23.580 --> 00:13:34.925 I will be able to reassure afterwards. The Election: why ? How come ... ah yes, 00:13:34.925 --> 00:13:41.057 now I have it, I found the thread again... How come that in every Constitution in the World is organised 00:13:41.057 --> 00:13:47.679 the impotency of the People ? Don't think of this as a conspiracy. The impotency of the people is written down 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:54.880 in these Constitutions, because the people who wrote them - all over the world, 00:13:54.880 --> 00:14:00.980 at all stages of history -, those who have written the Constitution, they were all professionals 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:07.435 of politics : parlementarians, ministers, judges, people of party, that is 00:14:07.435 --> 00:14:13.952 people who can project themselves in the future and that know that they will soon be in power NOTE Paragraph 00:14:13.952 --> 00:14:21.724 that they are now institutionalising. And that's really important ! I read a lot 00:14:21.724 --> 00:14:26.119 of Aristotle at Castoriadis, all the panel, all that... I don't read all but I read those 00:14:26.119 --> 00:14:29.986 who talk about power, abuse of power, of resistance to abuse of power. 00:14:29.986 --> 00:14:35.047 And in the literature that I have found for now, I haven't found this central idea. 00:14:35.047 --> 00:14:38.855 That's "chouardesc" (NT: that's him). At least, to make something central, 00:14:38.855 --> 00:14:42.750 to make it the back bone, something that will liberate us, 00:14:42.750 --> 00:14:46.286 that I found "chouardesc. I try to find something to support, to lean on some figures. 00:14:46.286 --> 00:14:51.208 There'd be a great man who said it, that would help. But I can't find it. 00:14:51.208 --> 00:14:57.153 At least I have logic on my side. I say that all the Constitutions of the world program 00:14:57.153 --> 00:15:00.502 our political impotency : so they don't write down citizens' initiative referendum 00:15:00.502 --> 00:15:04.059 they don't write down the seperation of powers, they don't program the accounting transparency, short office terms 00:15:04.059 --> 00:15:08.577 non-renewable, don't program respecting blank votes, and so on. 00:15:08.577 --> 00:15:13.596 You can count the principles with two hands, maybe even one hand. There aren't 10 great principles 00:15:13.596 --> 00:15:16.708 that you need, so it's easy to understand. We'll come back to it when we'll talk about 00:15:16.708 --> 00:15:23.809 Democracy, but you just can't find those great protections for people against power, you won't find 00:15:23.809 --> 00:15:29.150 institutionalising power of the people in all those Constitutions, because those who write them 00:15:29.150 --> 00:15:37.410 have a personal interest in the fact that it's Not written in the Constitution. That's my explanation. 00:15:37.410 --> 00:15:41.549 With one thought, an important thought that I need to add, these people 00:15:41.549 --> 00:15:45.357 are not corrupt, they aren't horrid... Well maybe they are horrid 00:15:45.357 --> 00:15:53.188 and corrupt as well, but ... Even good people, an honest parlementarian, 00:15:53.188 --> 00:16:01.472 when he is going to write a Constitution, he is in the situation that we must all know 00:16:01.472 --> 00:16:06.447 We must all know this expression, they are in conflict of interest. That doesn't mean NOTE Paragraph 00:16:06.447 --> 00:16:13.918 that they are rotten/corrupt, not at all! I'm not saying that. Conflict of interest means that, in that specific moment, 00:16:13.918 --> 00:16:18.084 in that precise situation, not elsewhere, there, in that situation, when they are writing 00:16:18.084 --> 00:16:25.342 a Constitution, they have a personal interest that is going to pollute the possibility of justice, to distance themselves 00:16:25.342 --> 00:16:31.054 and their detachment in regards to the common good. A little bit like... and this is an important image... 00:16:31.054 --> 00:16:35.361 for when you'll have to debate outside, if you'll help me 00:16:35.361 --> 00:16:40.098 make this idea viral. We must carry this idea otherwise we won't get anywhere. 00:16:40.098 --> 00:16:44.986 If I'm the only one saying it, it's like...wasting our time. It's interesting, it's amusing, 00:16:44.986 --> 00:16:49.398 but... we won't change anything. But if we start carrying this idea, all of us, we're going to change something. 00:16:49.398 --> 00:16:52.619 It will be like a snow ball, something that can really change everything. 00:16:52.619 --> 00:16:56.816 But you need to all become viruses. Well...not viruses, maybe more like white blood cells 00:16:56.816 --> 00:17:07.614 There are many expressions... and I'm forgetting my thread. What was I saying before ? 00:17:07.614 --> 00:17:14.243 - Conflict of Interest - Conflict of intest, yes, thank you. A judge... you'll understand... 00:17:14.243 --> 00:17:18.117 When you'll have to explain, you could use this image 00:17:18.117 --> 00:17:27.432 that's really expressive : Take a judge, a virtous judge ; I'm not talking about a horrid, or political, or crooked one. 00:17:27.432 --> 00:17:33.399 I'm talking about a good judge. Someone... that you've made sure to make completly independent 00:17:33.399 --> 00:17:39.646 To make sure that he is, you made sure he didn't need money, that he wasn't under any kind of external pressure 00:17:39.646 --> 00:17:44.136 You've made him independent so that he had all possible conditions to be a fair judge 00:17:44.136 --> 00:17:48.934 And he is effectivly a fair judge. More so, he knows shame, he has a sens of what it the common good, 00:17:48.934 --> 00:17:56.504 he makes efforts: there, a good judge. This guy, in his role, and in the planning of the court 00:17:56.504 --> 00:18:05.084 comes across his own child who's in a case. The child can be either a victim or an accused. 00:18:05.084 --> 00:18:13.024 No matter. There, his child is there. Everyone on eath will understand that there is a conflict of interest 00:18:13.024 --> 00:18:18.210 in that specific moment. That means that this judge, he's really good, but just for this case, 00:18:18.210 --> 00:18:25.436 we're going to challenge his authority. That doesn't mean that we'll dishonor him, that doesn't mean he's a crook, 00:18:25.436 --> 00:18:30.989 that he is a bad judge. It doesn't mean that at all. It means that in this case, 00:18:30.989 --> 00:18:38.163 this judge can not give justice. He's a judge and jury at the same time. He is in a conflict of interest. So, for that case, 00:18:38.163 --> 00:18:44.738 we will, you, judge, you very good judge, we will set you aside and place another one. We will put someone else, 00:18:44.738 --> 00:18:47.667 and then you'll take your job as judge again. Do you understand where I am getting at ? 00:18:47.667 --> 00:18:52.835 Conflict of interest doesn't mean corruption. It's a situation that we, as a whole, must know. 00:18:52.835 --> 00:18:58.594 We must be very watchful. Anglo-saxons know better this concept of conflic of interest 00:18:58.594 --> 00:19:01.659 than we, French, do. We, we're almost illiterate, we have no clue what it is ; 00:19:01.659 --> 00:19:09.418 or at least not well enough. And on this debat tonight, it's very Very important. 00:19:09.418 --> 00:19:13.692 So let's come back: when you're about to write... remember, you've understood, 00:19:13.692 --> 00:19:17.670 the people, the powers that write the law to sooth the people 00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:24.266 and to which the people submit themselves, the power that come as a benefit but can be dangerous, like double-edged sword 00:19:24.266 --> 00:19:31.289 It's the same people, they are both beneficial and harmful ; and so we place above them 00:19:31.289 --> 00:19:37.906 a superior text that they must fear ; they must fear the Constitution ! 00:19:37.906 --> 00:19:44.047 I am at risk to be punished, to be cast away, I, citizen, will be punished by what is in this text. 00:19:44.047 --> 00:19:50.504 They must fear the Constitution ! It must weaken them, this text. 00:19:50.504 --> 00:19:57.241 Do you understand that those writing the Constitution, even if they are virtuous, sweet, nice 00:19:57.241 --> 00:20:06.246 that they are good people, just when they are about to write that text, if it is them that we place to write the text 00:20:06.246 --> 00:20:13.379 that they must fear as futur men in power... You see the conflict of interest ? And that, I'm the only one defending this position 00:20:13.379 --> 00:20:16.745 It's surprising isn't it ? It seems to me that we should be more. 00:20:16.745 --> 00:20:24.744 I wish I would no longer remain the only one pointing to this conflict and that we become many saying: "Hang on a minute" 00:20:24.744 --> 00:20:30.330 Next time that we do what happened in Tunesia. They didn't say it in Tunesia, they didn't think it through before and they elected a Constitutional Assembly. 00:20:30.330 --> 00:20:35.689 They elected amongst imposed candidates by the parties. Imposed by who ? The political parties. 00:20:35.689 --> 00:20:38.612 They're the same ! Imagine : You have a Constitutional Assembly today. 00:20:38.612 --> 00:20:42.622 Who do you want amongst the candidates ? Who will you have ? 00:20:42.622 --> 00:20:45.748 You'll have the right wing who'll put forward their candidates and the left wing who'll present theirs. 00:20:45.748 --> 00:20:49.695 And the press will go on about it, talking about Dassault, of Lagardère, etc... 00:20:49.695 --> 00:20:53.816 And Bouygues or Bolloré, you'll see the TV channels, who are friends with all those guys 00:20:53.816 --> 00:20:58.708 who'll just keep talking about the candidates of political parties. They'll be elected ! So you'll have professionals 00:20:58.708 --> 00:21:06.042 of politics who are going to write the Constitution that they should fear. And it's like that everywhere 00:21:06.042 --> 00:21:10.689 in the world. - And in Iceland ? - In Iceland too. A little less though. In Iceland, 00:21:10.689 --> 00:21:16.075 there was a random draw between the two previous chambers, but chamber nonetheless. So they were politicians 00:21:16.075 --> 00:21:21.170 that put in place the regime, at least the procedure that happened in Iceland. It started with two chambers 00:21:21.170 --> 00:21:25.427 that were randomnly drawn. The first draw to say : what do we want ? And they said : we'll 00:21:25.427 --> 00:21:28.676 make another random draw chamber who'll say exactly what's in the Constitution and after that 00:21:28.676 --> 00:21:33.723 there will be another chamber that will be elected and who will write the Constitution. And that's what happened. 00:21:33.723 --> 00:21:37.933 So there was a second chamber randomnly drawn who said: "We would like that there be this and that 00:21:37.933 --> 00:21:41.014 in the Constitution" That's not bad ey ? It's not a bad starter but it's not the cure for all. NOTE Paragraph 00:21:41.014 --> 00:21:44.877 It's not what I was talking about earlier on. We could dream of better I'm sure. 00:21:44.877 --> 00:21:49.651 If we imposed a constitutional process that would be correct, it would be a lot better 00:21:49.651 --> 00:21:54.432 than in Iceland, I beleive. Because, in fact, they had the Constitutional Assembly afterwards. 00:21:54.432 --> 00:21:57.822 So it was a free election, better than the elections 00:21:57.822 --> 00:22:02.875 that we are used to. We're used to elections where we don't 00:22:02.875 --> 00:22:08.677 get to choose the set of candidates we have, and so we're left with, excuse me for saying so, 00:22:08.677 --> 00:22:15.301 imposed candidates who have interests contrary to the greater good. That are judge & jury at the same time. 00:22:15.301 --> 00:22:22.621 When it comes to electing Constituant Members, if the parties 00:22:22.621 --> 00:22:26.572 are imposing on us candidates, we'll end up with... 100% of the Constitutional Assembly that will be 00:22:26.572 --> 00:22:30.535 in Conflict of Interest. In Iceland, it didn't quite happen that way, 00:22:30.535 --> 00:22:34.206 because they had a free election. They had a trucker who went candidate, so anyone 00:22:34.206 --> 00:22:38.402 could be representative. But since it was an election, it's more the local leaders that were elected, 00:22:38.402 --> 00:22:43.612 and they're not very revolutionary. They won't just change everything and keep to what they know. 00:22:43.612 --> 00:22:48.925 So they'll just end up probably...Well we'll see, I hope they prove me wrong. It's interesting 00:22:48.925 --> 00:22:52.092 what's going on: The Constitution in Iceland is actually 00:22:52.092 --> 00:22:55.296 interacting with it's people via social neworks. 00:22:55.296 --> 00:22:57.339 They aren't many, they are 370 000 in Iceland, so 00:22:57.339 --> 00:23:00.643 they actually manage to do it and people write to the Members of the Constitutional Assemble to tell tem: 00:23:00.643 --> 00:23:04.909 "Think about this, think about that" So it's quite interactive and it's really interesting what's going on.