[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.34,0:00:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm afraid that I'll forget to tell you, so I'll just tell you now; even if it's not Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.92,0:00:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the moment, it's alright. It hasn't been long since I'm in politics. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.16,0:00:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been 5 or 6 years, so I'm the new guy. I see the friends that I've been making in politics. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.08,0:00:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these people that I meet from the left, center or right, Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.56,0:01:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these people, they fight for the greater good. They're good people Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.39,0:01:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who seek the common interest, to best satisfy the common interest. They all fight against social injustice. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.87,0:01:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They come from of all (political) sides... for example, some fight for Global Zero (nuclear weapons). Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.06,0:01:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For them, it's the most important. It's top priority, we're going to die! We have to fight against it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.85,0:01:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what's most important for them. And for them, the guy who fights corruption, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.79,0:01:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the corruption of elected representatives, but who is for nuclear technology, he's the devil! Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.03,0:01:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a bit clumsy but alright. At the same time, others who fight against Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.96,0:01:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the destruction of schools. It's horrible, school are being destroyed, teachers put aside, Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.72,0:01:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hospitals are being all over the country, the country side is becoming a (clinical) desert Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.66,0:01:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Farmers are being ill treated. The country side is literally becoming a desert Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.52,0:01:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are fighting on the subjet. Ok, Great! Others fight for the Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.86,0:02:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money and the creation of money and consider, they are right, that money creation is Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.06,0:02:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really important. That is that we have abandonned money creation, we have impoverish ourselves, Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.82,0:02:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all becomes hard for us because we are becoming poorer. We have put in place a scarity Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.14,0:02:21.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is chocking us. They are fighting on that subjet. They consider it essential. What I would like Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.49,0:02:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell you, is that I look at all this. I take part in the debats, I share them; Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.09,0:02:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not at all contradictory what I am about to say, it's complementary. It's seems to me that all these social struggles Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.93,0:02:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are solely fighting on "the branches", the consequences. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.39,0:02:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ecological catastrophy, it's not a cause - you know, 'Look for the root of causes' Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.17,0:02:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ecological catastrophy, it's only made possible because of our political impotency. I am sure Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.07,0:03:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you ask people around you, even non-political people, they will tell you: Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.06,0:03:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We should try to solve this problem. We should try to resist. We are all ready to resist, Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.73,0:03:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we have no means to resist, we are politically powerless" And you will see Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.60,0:03:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this policital impotency, so this is a cause. So to me it seems smarter to fight Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.57,0:03:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this impotency than on the ecological catastrophy, the corruption of our representatives, work injustice Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.87,0:03:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the companies, that extravagant "lordly" ownership on the people who work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.87,0:03:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a reason to fight, but it's just a consequence Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.80,0:03:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not the cause. The issues on water, and the ownership of water by multinationals, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.80,0:03:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's extravagant, we have to fight against it. But again, it's just consequences. And for all that, it seems to me that the cause... And after that, Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.33,0:03:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should climb higher because the cause itself has yet another cause and that he has also another root. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.80,0:04:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to find the root of causes. If we manage to escalate, if we manage to find Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.56,0:04:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a common cause, and to find from it the cause that makes it possible, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.35,0:04:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so on. We manage to find something that is central to all these social injustices Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.91,0:04:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that is determining, that dertermins. I mean that if it exists, the social injustices are possible, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.83,0:04:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that if it doesn't exist, they will no longer be possible or they will be limited, then we have found Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.40,0:04:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something of very important because, at the same time, we have found the mean to really solve the problem; Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.80,0:04:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are not on ecology, you are on our political impotency, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.12,0:04:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've made the link. \NIf you fight less directly for ecology but more against our political impotency, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.11,0:04:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are still fighting for ecology. It's not incompatible ; we can fight Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.80,0:04:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on both fronts. But if now you are fighting against political impotency, because you have managed to realise the link Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.87,0:05:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have then realised that if the multinational companies can hog so much Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.95,0:05:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while we are seeing them doing it. And we protest, and that's all we can do, since we have no political power. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.18,0:05:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you make the link and that you tell yourselves "OK, I'm looking for the root of causes and I'm building up Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.15,0:05:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against this root." You will realise that the guy who has done the same intellectual work than you: he works like... Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.04,0:05:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... the two Pinçon-Charlot, he works on corruption... that the lifestyle of the rich Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.75,0:05:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way the rich manage to gather so much political power to Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.22,0:05:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally be able to influence the making of laws and how favorably they are voted. So all this work on corruption of Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.84,0:05:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a groupe of resistants, added to their work - but it's very important to understand that they are fighting Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.41,0:05:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the consequences - but if they also start to fight against political impotency. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.97,0:05:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you have the nuclear networks, etc. You will have all the resistants there Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.75,0:06:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will say: "But finally, if we had political power, we would be able to resist!" Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.78,0:06:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas all their lives... I see these old, these old resistants. They are much more valorous than I. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.47,0:06:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have spent their whole lives resisting while I was minding my own business. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.23,0:06:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they went on markets, giving out leaflets. Leaflets ! They had other things to do Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.80,0:06:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a Wednesday than go on a market, but every Wednesday they went, giving out leaflets, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.22,0:06:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organising meetings. They were fighters and they have that feeling that it's not bringing anything. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.34,0:06:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have the gut feeling that the score of our elected representatives that we want to see up there are becoming lower Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.62,0:06:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when they hear me, when I say: "Wait, there's something better we can do here! If instead of fighting Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.79,0:06:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and splitting up because there are so many branches of social injustice that branch out of Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.06,0:06:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our political impotency, there are so many different consequences. Each of us Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.59,0:06:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who puts so much energy forth... We aren't many, ey; the guys who do politics, what's that ? Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.53,0:06:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's 1% of the population. 2-3% it's not much. But if we are divided Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.73,0:07:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because each of us is fighting against consequences that are sincerly serious. And what he thinks serious, him, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.16,0:07:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well it won't be what the next guy thinks is seriously worrysome. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.31,0:07:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only are we just fighting the consequences, meaning that even if we manage to solve Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.92,0:07:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem, we won't have solved all the others. And it'll grow back Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.89,0:07:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the root of the problem is still there. You cut the branch but it will carry on growing. So if you take Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.11,0:07:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem by its' root, if we were radical, by taking the issue at its' root, instead of cutting Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.87,0:07:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the branches, we take care of the root, and we get two birds with one stone. We have found Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.55,0:07:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root of causes and we will be rid of all problems ! We even get three with one stone Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.76,0:07:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in reality, since we have all made intellectual investigation by telling ourselves: Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.75,0:07:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's take things logically, let's fight against the root Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.04,0:07:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that we will have gotten all problems in one go, and we will have taken care of our political impotency." Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.03,0:07:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is our political impotency programmed ? I will come back to it later on, Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.43,0:07:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you see me coming because we have already talked about it a little. With it, thirdly, we Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.06,0:08:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be united ! There is a real stake here ! It's just a great idea, I beleive, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.95,0:08:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take the problem at its' root. I know, you're going to say, "Chouard, you're a nice guy, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.65,0:08:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's your whim ! There ! Him, his whim, it's nuclear weapons. That guy, his wim is industrial corruption Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.61,0:08:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you, it's the Constitution. Yes, well alright, maybe, it's true. It's maybe true that it's a whim. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.65,0:08:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it seems to me that it's logical. To me, I completly share the whim, that is of the priority of each; Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.21,0:08:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I beleive them to be beautiful these priorities. The guy fighting over money creation (debt money), Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.00,0:08:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's working hard, clearing the way, he makes us understand what we could put there instead. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.60,0:08:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we'll have reconquered money creation, his work will be really useful. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.16,0:08:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the way, André-Jacques, we always talk about him, he agrees with me. He's actually integrated Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.74,0:08:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my piece of the puzzle like I have integrated his, and we become stronger. He hasn't become poorer because of it Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.38,0:08:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by giving me his idea and I haven't become poorer by giving him mine. That's what's great with ideas, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.32,0:08:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's that when we give them, we don't become poorer, we are mutually becoming richer. But what I want to say, Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.45,0:09:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is by concentrating on the root of causes, by applying the advice of Hippocrates, and by looking for Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.94,0:09:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root of causes, all, with each of our actual priorities, by integrating the fact that... finally Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.03,0:09:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's true that what stops us from getting rid of Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.30,0:09:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social injustices, is that we all, execpt our elected representatives and those who buy them off, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.53,0:09:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are politically powerless. Really, it's crucial Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.50,0:09:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make social injustice possible and to keep it going on, living on and on. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.74,0:09:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not because it's been that way for 200 years and even 2500 years, Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.29,0:09:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not because it has been that way for thousand of years that it will always be that way! Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.46,0:09:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a question of conscience. I have the dinstinct impression that we are in prehistorical politics here. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.19,0:10:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we are like children. Alright, maybe not children, at least unconscious, we haven't tought things through, Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.66,0:10:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not a reason why we won't find a solution ! In my opinion, with the accumulated experience, Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.72,0:10:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a Guillemin who explains. You can put things back in order, in the right place. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.44,0:10:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe, through modern tools that we didn't have before Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.31,0:10:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they didn't have TV, they didn't have Internet. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.36,0:10:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Internet is real important ! Internet is a technique, a piece of metal, Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.62,0:10:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a piece of metal that gives us something that we have never had in the whole human history. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.34,0:10:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember... out of all the human evolution... the invention of the pressing machine Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.06,0:10:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the invention of printing, it enabled the people, as a folk, to read and to discover knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.86,0:10:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore to progress, to make giant leapls in learning. We learn faster Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.60,0:10:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of printing, because we have the power to read, but we could only read Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.57,0:11:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what other had already written. And others...that was the elite. Elite in the sens, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.27,0:11:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with or without quotes, that could be a true elite, good people. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.78,0:11:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we only had the right to read. Because to be able to write, you needed a VIP ticket Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.33,0:11:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wasn't for us : for us, the masses. With Internet... it's probably as important Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.57,0:11:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than printing. In my eyes, it's really plausible. We don't know if they will Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.10,0:11:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe shut Internet down, but with it, we have the People, the normal folk. The 99% with Internet Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.70,0:11:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get access to writing. And therefore to short-circuit the elite, and eventually. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.28,0:11:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eventually the olgiarchic elite. That means to capture power and to use it for their own purpose, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.51,0:11:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for their interest against the common good. And so Internet, in that sens, is a tool Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.24,0:12:02.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an extraordinary tool to form ourselves, to self-educate, to educate the people ! And short-circuit Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.91,0:12:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our elites. By creating our own experts on this, experts on that and by teaching ourselves... Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.67,0:12:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's incredible the number of things that has taught me André-Jacques, the work of André-Jacques Holbecq. Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.19,0:12:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will show you his book; he has written many. This really good book, Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.72,0:12:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good starting page, you'll see... He asked me to do it, it's great, Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.27,0:12:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was proud. It's a really great book. A little book Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.35,0:12:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- easy to read - on the debt. And so André-Jacques Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.45,0:12:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work he has done on money has made me move forward so much and without Internet Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.74,0:12:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would have never discovered him. ...So where was I ? I was talking about Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.21,0:12:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hippocrates... I will take my notes, I made a small thread to follow. It's not a large thread, mind you... Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.54,0:13:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should talk about... Well we have to start to set the word "Democracy" back in it's place Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.96,0:13:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to maybe put it correctly in it's set. So I'll start by chopping down... the election Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.55,0:13:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before talking about Athenian democracy. I will try to talk quickly about Athenian democracy, Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.15,0:13:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, in truth, I can last on hour on that, maybe two on Athenian democray, but I shouldn't here. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.58,0:13:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we need, as I said, is that you can tell me what scares you in this. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.58,0:13:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will be able to reassure afterwards. The Election: why ? How come ... ah yes, Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.92,0:13:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now I have it, I found the thread again... How come that in every Constitution in the World is organised Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.06,0:13:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the impotency of the People ? Don't think of this as a conspiracy. The impotency of the people is written down Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.68,0:13:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these Constitutions, because the people who wrote them - all over the world, Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.88,0:14:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at all stages of history -, those who have written the Constitution, they were all professionals Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.98,0:14:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of politics : parlementarians, ministers, judges, people of party, that is Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.44,0:14:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who can project themselves in the future and that know that they will soon be in power Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.95,0:14:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are now institutionalising. And that's really important ! I read a lot Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.72,0:14:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Aristotle at Castoriadis, all the panel, all that... I don't read all but I read those Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.12,0:14:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who talk about power, abuse of power, of resistance to abuse of power. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.99,0:14:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the literature that I have found for now, I haven't found this central idea. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.05,0:14:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's "chouardesc" (NT: that's him). At least, to make something central, Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.86,0:14:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it the back bone, something that will liberate us, Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.75,0:14:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I found "chouardesc. I try to find something to support, to lean on some figures. Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.29,0:14:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There'd be a great man who said it, that would help. But I can't find it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.21,0:14:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least I have logic on my side. I say that all the Constitutions of the world program Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.15,0:15:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our political impotency : so they don't write down citizens' initiative referendum Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.50,0:15:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't write down the seperation of powers, they don't program the accounting transparency, short office terms Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.06,0:15:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-renewable, don't program respecting blank votes, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.58,0:15:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can count the principles with two hands, maybe even one hand. There aren't 10 great principles Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.60,0:15:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you need, so it's easy to understand. We'll come back to it when we'll talk about Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.71,0:15:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Democracy, but you just can't find those great protections for people against power, you won't find Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.81,0:15:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,institutionalising power of the people in all those Constitutions, because those who write them Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.15,0:15:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a personal interest in the fact that it's Not written in the Constitution. That's my explanation. Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.41,0:15:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With one thought, an important thought that I need to add, these people Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.55,0:15:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not corrupt, they aren't horrid... Well maybe they are horrid Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.36,0:15:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and corrupt as well, but ... Even good people, an honest parlementarian, Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.19,0:16:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he is going to write a Constitution, he is in the situation that we must all know Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.47,0:16:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must all know this expression, they are in conflict of interest. That doesn't mean Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.45,0:16:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are rotten/corrupt, not at all! I'm not saying that. Conflict of interest means that, in that specific moment, Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.92,0:16:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that precise situation, not elsewhere, there, in that situation, when they are writing Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.08,0:16:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Constitution, they have a personal interest that is going to pollute the possibility of justice, to distance themselves Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.34,0:16:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their detachment in regards to the common good. A little bit like... and this is an important image... Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.05,0:16:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for when you'll have to debate outside, if you'll help me Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.36,0:16:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make this idea viral. We must carry this idea otherwise we won't get anywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.10,0:16:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I'm the only one saying it, it's like...wasting our time. It's interesting, it's amusing, Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.99,0:16:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but... we won't change anything. But if we start carrying this idea, all of us, we're going to change something. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.40,0:16:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be like a snow ball, something that can really change everything. Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.62,0:16:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you need to all become viruses. Well...not viruses, maybe more like white blood cells Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.82,0:17:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many expressions... and I'm forgetting my thread. What was I saying before ? Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.61,0:17:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Conflict of Interest - Conflict of intest, yes, thank you. A judge... you'll understand... Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.24,0:17:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you'll have to explain, you could use this image Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.12,0:17:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really expressive : Take a judge, a virtous judge ; I'm not talking about a horrid, or political, or crooked one. Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.43,0:17:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about a good judge. Someone... that you've made sure to make completly independent Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.40,0:17:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make sure that he is, you made sure he didn't need money, that he wasn't under any kind of external pressure Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.65,0:17:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've made him independent so that he had all possible conditions to be a fair judge Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.14,0:17:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he is effectivly a fair judge. More so, he knows shame, he has a sens of what it the common good, Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.93,0:17:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he makes efforts: there, a good judge. This guy, in his role, and in the planning of the court Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.50,0:18:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes across his own child who's in a case. The child can be either a victim or an accused. Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.08,0:18:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No matter. There, his child is there. Everyone on eath will understand that there is a conflict of interest Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.02,0:18:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that specific moment. That means that this judge, he's really good, but just for this case, Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.21,0:18:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to challenge his authority. That doesn't mean that we'll dishonor him, that doesn't mean he's a crook, Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.44,0:18:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he is a bad judge. It doesn't mean that at all. It means that in this case, Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.99,0:18:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this judge can not give justice. He's a judge and jury at the same time. He is in a conflict of interest. So, for that case, Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.16,0:18:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will, you, judge, you very good judge, we will set you aside and place another one. We will put someone else, Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.74,0:18:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you'll take your job as judge again. Do you understand where I am getting at ? Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.67,0:18:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conflict of interest doesn't mean corruption. It's a situation that we, as a whole, must know. Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.84,0:18:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must be very watchful. Anglo-saxons know better this concept of conflic of interest Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.59,0:19:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than we, French, do. We, we're almost illiterate, we have no clue what it is ; Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.66,0:19:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at least not well enough. And on this debat tonight, it's very Very important. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.42,0:19:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's come back: when you're about to write... remember, you've understood, Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.69,0:19:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people, the powers that write the law to sooth the people Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.67,0:19:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to which the people submit themselves, the power that come as a benefit but can be dangerous, like double-edged sword Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.27,0:19:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the same people, they are both beneficial and harmful ; and so we place above them Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.29,0:19:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a superior text that they must fear ; they must fear the Constitution ! Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.91,0:19:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am at risk to be punished, to be cast away, I, citizen, will be punished by what is in this text. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.05,0:19:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They must fear the Constitution ! It must weaken them, this text. Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.50,0:19:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you understand that those writing the Constitution, even if they are virtuous, sweet, nice Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.24,0:20:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are good people, just when they are about to write that text, if it is them that we place to write the text Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.25,0:20:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they must fear as futur men in power... You see the conflict of interest ? And that, I'm the only one defending this position Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.38,0:20:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's surprising isn't it ? It seems to me that we should be more. Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.74,0:20:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish I would no longer remain the only one pointing to this conflict and that we become many saying: "Hang on a minute" Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.74,0:20:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next time that we do what happened in Tunesia. They didn't say it in Tunesia, they didn't think it through before and they elected a Constitutional Assembly. Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.33,0:20:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They elected amongst imposed candidates by the parties. Imposed by who ? The political parties. Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.69,0:20:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the same ! Imagine : You have a Constitutional Assembly today. Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.61,0:20:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who do you want amongst the candidates ? Who will you have ? Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.62,0:20:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll have the right wing who'll put forward their candidates and the left wing who'll present theirs. Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.75,0:20:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the press will go on about it, talking about Dassault, of Lagardère, etc... Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.70,0:20:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Bouygues or Bolloré, you'll see the TV channels, who are friends with all those guys Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.82,0:20:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who'll just keep talking about the candidates of political parties. They'll be elected ! So you'll have professionals Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.71,0:21:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of politics who are going to write the Constitution that they should fear. And it's like that everywhere Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.04,0:21:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the world. - And in Iceland ? - In Iceland too. A little less though. In Iceland, Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.69,0:21:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a random draw between the two previous chambers, but chamber nonetheless. So they were politicians Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.08,0:21:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that put in place the regime, at least the procedure that happened in Iceland. It started with two chambers Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.17,0:21:25.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were randomnly drawn. The first draw to say : what do we want ? And they said : we'll Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.43,0:21:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make another random draw chamber who'll say exactly what's in the Constitution and after that Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.68,0:21:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be another chamber that will be elected and who will write the Constitution. And that's what happened. Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.72,0:21:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there was a second chamber randomnly drawn who said: "We would like that there be this and that Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.93,0:21:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Constitution" That's not bad ey ? It's not a bad starter but it's not the cure for all. Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.01,0:21:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not what I was talking about earlier on. We could dream of better I'm sure. Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.88,0:21:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we imposed a constitutional process that would be correct, it would be a lot better Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.65,0:21:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than in Iceland, I beleive. Because, in fact, they had the Constitutional Assembly afterwards. Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.43,0:21:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a free election, better than the elections Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.82,0:22:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are used to. We're used to elections where we don't Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.88,0:22:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to choose the set of candidates we have, and so we're left with, excuse me for saying so, Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.68,0:22:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imposed candidates who have interests contrary to the greater good. That are judge & jury at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.30,0:22:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it comes to electing Constituant Members, if the parties Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.62,0:22:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are imposing on us candidates, we'll end up with... 100% of the Constitutional Assembly that will be Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.57,0:22:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Conflict of Interest. In Iceland, it didn't quite happen that way, Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.54,0:22:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they had a free election. They had a trucker who went candidate, so anyone Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.21,0:22:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be representative. But since it was an election, it's more the local leaders that were elected, Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.40,0:22:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're not very revolutionary. They won't just change everything and keep to what they know. Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.61,0:22:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they'll just end up probably...Well we'll see, I hope they prove me wrong. It's interesting Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.92,0:22:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on: The Constitution in Iceland is actually Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.09,0:22:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interacting with it's people via social neworks. Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.30,0:22:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They aren't many, they are 370 000 in Iceland, so Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.34,0:23:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they actually manage to do it and people write to the Members of the Constitutional Assemble to tell tem: Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.64,0:23:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Think about this, think about that" So it's quite interactive and it's really interesting what's going on.