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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.32,0:00:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes I do, Charlie, but let me tell you,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.55,0:00:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the wrong question.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.14,0:00:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] OK What's the right question?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.50,0:00:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Morrison] How do you feel?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.75,0:00:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not you, Charlie Rose,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.13,0:00:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't you understand
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.57,0:00:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the people who do this thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.73,0:00:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who practice racism,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.67,0:00:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are bereft, there is something distorted about the psyche?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.96,0:00:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a huge waste, and it's a corruption
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.92,0:00:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a distortion.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.86,0:00:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like it's a profound neurosis
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.57,0:00:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that nobody examines for what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.80,0:00:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It {\i1}feels{\i0} crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.03,0:00:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It {\i1}is{\i0} crazy.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.70,0:00:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it leaves,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.39,0:00:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has just as much of a deliterious effect on white people;
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.37,0:00:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and possibly equal as it does black people.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.01,0:00:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always knew that I had the moral high ground.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.35,0:00:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.20,0:00:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought those people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.59,0:00:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said I couldn't come in the drugstore,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.29,0:00:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to sit in this funny place,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.90,0:00:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't go in the park...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.13,0:00:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose cuts in] You felt morally superior to them from day one.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.43,0:01:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Morrison] I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.44,0:01:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought they knew that I knew that they were inferior to me, morally.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.18,0:01:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.43,0:01:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my parents always thought that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.14,0:01:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] You said your your father was racist cause he always felt like he was superior...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.67,0:01:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Mossison] That's right, he always felt superior,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.86,0:01:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was a form, you know, of defensive racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.43,0:01:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if the racist white person -
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.67,0:01:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't mean a person who is examining his consciousness and so on
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.20,0:01:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- doesn't understand that he or she is also a race,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.57,0:01:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also constructed,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.42,0:01:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also made,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.67,0:01:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it also has some kind of serviceability,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.03,0:01:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when you take it away,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.17,0:01:39.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like take your race away,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.100,0:01:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there you are all strung out,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.76,0:01:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all you got is your little self,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.13,0:01:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.07,0:01:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are you without racism?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.51,0:01:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are ya any good?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.33,0:01:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are ya still strong?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.57,0:01:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still smart?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.90,0:01:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You still like yourself?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.90,0:01:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, these are the questions,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.00,0:02:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of it is, "yes, the victim, how terrible it's been for black people..."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.77,0:02:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a victim.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.17,0:02:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I refuse to be one.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.60,0:02:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] And the victim is the other person who is morally inferior...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.03,0:02:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Morrison] That's a serious question... of course! ...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.73,0:02:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] ...& who has to hold onto racism to somehow for his or her own self esteem & definition
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.50,0:02:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Morrison] If you can only be tall because somebody's on their knees,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.60,0:02:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you have a serious problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.60,0:02:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my feeling is, white people have a very very serious problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.87,0:02:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And {\i1}they{\i0} should start thinking about what {\i1}they{\i0} can do about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.00,0:02:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take me out of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.27,0:02:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] Then give white people some free advice.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.40,0:02:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Toni Morrison] They're all in my books [both laughing].
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.60,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charlie Rose] And the advice is... [cuts off]