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Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.07,0:00:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On pourrait dire qu'une chanson est heavy à cause de la façon dont elle sonne
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.06,0:00:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pour moi cela vient plus de l'expérience des personnes qui la composent
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.02,0:00:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"je préfèrerai planer ou mourir", ce genre de trucs
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.10,0:00:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On peut n'avoir qu'une guitare acoustique et une voix
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.10,0:00:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,et avoir la chose la plus heavy au monde
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.03,0:00:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Etre heavy c'est être énervé, être un seigneur de guerre
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.10,0:01:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comme quelqu'un en pleine bataille
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.09,0:01:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,qui aurait une hache et couperait la tête d'un gars
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.09,0:01:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,si vous avez un riff qui sonne comme ça, c'est ça être heavy
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.01,0:01:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,La première fois que les Beatles sont venus en Amérique
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.03,0:01:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ils avaient ces amplis minuscules, on n'entendait rien d'autre que les filles qui hurlaient
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.03,0:01:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tout ça a changé quand Marshall, Laney et Orange
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.01,0:01:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ont commencé à faire ces énormes amplis
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.03,0:01:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,d'un coup on n'entendait plus la foule
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.07,0:01:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pour les premiers groupes de hard rock,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.05,0:01:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,le principal était de trouver quoi faire de toute cette distorsion et ce volume
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.09,0:01:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On peut faire des choses avec un son clean et un peu de réverb
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.07,0:01:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,qui sont si sombres qu'elles feraient passer Black Sabbath pour Peggy Lee
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.05,0:02:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving away from that idea
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.03,0:02:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just being like headbanging whatever devil horn heavy rock we're making weird shit
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.08,0:02:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"comment on pourrait avoir ce son ?"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.05,0:02:21.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"on pourrait le mettre dans un placard, ou dans un endroit confiné"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.03,0:02:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"allez, on va le mettre dans un cercueil et voir quelle genre de performance vocale on peut avoir"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.08,0:02:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,une quinte diminuée est beaucoup plus heavy que...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.05,0:02:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tu vois ce que je veux dire ?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.07,0:02:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,c'est terre à terre, c'est souvent brut
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.03,0:02:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,et c'est réel
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.03,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whan you get really technically proficient, that sucks the soul out of rock'n'roll
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when somebody really has something to say
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.08,0:03:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i'm not saying verbally necessarily but emotionally
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.06,0:03:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it comes out of the music and it just hits you
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.06,0:03:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's heavy music to me, ti doesn't necessarily has to be all about loud guitars
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.03,0:03:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though i love loud guitars !
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.01,0:03:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems like, heavy, the modern idiom is always like something with distortion and a lot of volume
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.06,0:03:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some sort of reference to the first heavy bands you know
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.01,0:03:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Black Sabbath, Blue Cheer and Led Zeppelin
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.01,0:04:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole experience of coming of age in the early 1970s
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.04,0:04:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very tense and rife with problems that mainsteam enterntainment was'nt adressing
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.09,0:04:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and definitely not even mainstream pop music
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.08,0:04:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would love to go back to the 70s and relive it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.06,0:04:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, i mean, you had Black Sabbath at their peak
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.02,0:04:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had captain beyond, you had , you had Deep Purple in rock
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.06,0:04:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had Mountain, you had, you had the stooges, you had atomic rooster, dust, groundhog, stray
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.07,0:04:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these incredible bands
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.05,0:04:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since 72 it's actually been done - downhill - yeah, after volume 4 was released
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.08,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sabbath, unnecessary to point the discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.00,0:05:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i keep referring back to hawkwind because they were a really really big influence on me back in the day
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.01,0:05:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone in the green river days discovered hawkwind and i've been in love with those
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.05,0:05:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four or five records ever since
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.04,0:05:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,zeppeling, free
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.08,0:05:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like all kids our age i mean, kiss
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.00,0:05:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had all of dick taylor's records
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.02,0:05:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,james gang
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.02,0:05:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neil young
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.00,0:05:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leafhound or
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.04,0:05:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mahavishnu orchestra
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.02,0:05:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alioce cooper, aloice cooper was like the first cool record i ever got
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.00,0:05:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course i like sabbath, i mean, that's the obvious
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.08,0:05:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they know sabbath nand it's great, but sabbath is played out
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.04,0:05:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of bands we were into bobby and i specifically were into
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.03,0:05:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what i call like, b level bands or c level bands, like
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.03,0:05:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dust, baltimore
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.03,0:05:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,baltimore i mean i did'nt know these until a couple years ago and i heard it
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.00,0:05:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i juste started cracking up cause it's fucking gnarly
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.06,0:05:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you play these recorrds
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.00,0:06:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not barracuda it's not supertramp
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.04,0:06:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way, black sabbath was nzever on the radio, but people went to gigs,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.09,0:06:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i think thats' why there was more moeny for these bands touring
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.07,0:06:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making platinum without getting on the radio
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.03,0:06:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 70s there was a lot more regional hard rock
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.03,0:06:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were bands like pentagram in washington dc that were a part of the major label system
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.05,0:06:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pentagram formed in the late 71
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.01,0:06:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bobby was the first
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.05,0:06:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would tell you that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.07,0:06:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bobby liebling was the first
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.01,0:06:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally, one night bobby and i were sitting at a frined's house
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.03,0:06:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting stoned like we did, just about every night
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.01,0:07:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we said you know, why don't we put together a band that does exactly what we both wanna do
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.10,0:07:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the time i was in the band, 71 to 76, i'd say we were a hard rock band
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.08,0:07:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe a heavy hard rock band, but we weren't a heavy metal band
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.06,0:07:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't wanna play clubs, because clubs didn't want us to play them
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.07,0:07:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we doidn't do covers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.03,0:07:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you listen to bobby's songs, they werecreative, incredibly inventive songs,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.05,0:07:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with weird beat changes, weird chord progressions, weird time signtures and stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.10,0:07:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the labels would say this isn't radio , we can't sell this, we don't hear a single
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.03,0:07:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we waned to just, record our own material and og straight to getting signed
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.01,0:07:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we had various managerswho stuck with us for various perdios time
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.05,0:08:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would take us to the studio, pay for the stessions, and try to get us a record label deal
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.06,0:08:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and each time they failed
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.05,0:08:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crabs in columbia, the wanted bobby
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.09,0:08:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's were bobby got some kind of big audition in new york city at a big studio
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.05,0:08:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thats was the straw that definitely caused a lot of damage to the camel's back
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.03,0:08:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, bobby basically blew our columbia record deal
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.07,0:08:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we wanted to do better vocals, but the guy paying for our session, columbia records,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.08,0:08:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said don't worry about it and that should be the end of the subject
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.02,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bobby wanted his way and so there you go, that was the end of columbia records
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.00,0:08:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem really became the drugs
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.06,0:09:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bobby got
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.09,0:09:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bobby sat on the edge of being a fucking legendary rockstar his entire life
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.07,0:09:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pentagram i missed the first time around
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.07,0:09:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i thing their records were almost impossible to find
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.08,0:09:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i didnt even hear about pentagram until the records started getting reissued
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.09,0:09:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bobby had all this stuff and believe it or not even back then
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.03,0:09:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this stuff was even of those 8 tracks sometimes 4 tracks, it was amazing quality
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.01,0:09:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bobby worked out a deal with relapse
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.03,0:09:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they wanted to pull out a compilation of a lot of our 70s demo
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.04,0:09:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the studio demoes we had done we several managers
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.06,0:09:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i loved it, i loved the pentagram stuff of the 80s
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.06,0:10:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i'm really proud of bobby for keeping pentagram going for all these years
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.03,0:10:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becauseif he hadnt kept the band going
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.06,0:11:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you wouldnt be talking to me roight now
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.05,0:11:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just got like a basic structure
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.08,0:11:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we got the skeleton but then theres so much space
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.06,0:11:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know those parts lasts maybe 5-10 minutes in a run
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.02,0:11:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we just like go off for 20 minutesand its always gonna be different
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.07,0:11:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its always playing off each other
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.09,0:11:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i always call it the cosmic nod
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.09,0:11:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think that its a very spiritual thing
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.07,0:11:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially i mean like for us when we play definitely at length
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.03,0:12:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that way we can maybe ride a note for 5 minutes
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.10,0:12:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just kinda noodle over it
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.04,0:12:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does give you to think
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.08,0:12:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just kinda explore whats in your head whenyou drift off
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.06,0:12:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we talk about it and we were like "shoulod we try to write some songs or should weget a singer"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.09,0:15:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just kinda said "we kinda like it how it is"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.02,0:15:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metal in the 80s became very formula (?)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.00,0:15:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lokk at judas priest turbo album
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.00,0:15:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and compare that to things like stain glass or sin after sin and you cans see what happened to music
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.03,0:15:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 80s
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.06,0:15:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early psychedelic hard rock
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.00,0:15:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ened when the drug of choice became cocaine
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.04,0:15:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the negative aspects of studio recording
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.09,0:15:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are amplified by cocaine used by the engineers the musicians the producers
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.05,0:15:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i wanna be hinged on production sounding just exactly like in the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.00,0:15:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you had your weird underground stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.04,0:15:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,venom, metallica was kinda stradling the pumpkin metal thing
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.08,0:15:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i wasnt really part of the wholde ozzy osbourne
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.09,0:16:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judas priest crap
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.04,0:16:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you didnt really have punks going to metal shows
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.03,0:16:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and metal people going to punk shows
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.06,0:16:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then around84 85
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.09,0:16:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the line started to get blurred a litlle bit
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.03,0:16:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was actually a defining moment
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.05,0:16:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the obsessed was accepted by the punk community
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.09,0:16:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its like when, we play ths little bar and the pa went out
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.05,0:16:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and instead of stopping we just played the whole set without pa
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.06,0:16:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screaming in ,playing things like twice as fast
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.08,0:16:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afer that, sam said"ok, i gotta throw up"
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.04,0:16:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i thuink a lot of the dc hardcore bands
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.02,0:16:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were kind of what got me into doing
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.08,0:16:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bands like sping, void ,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.06,0:16:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody told me if you think is fast, you should check dri and coc
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.05,0:16:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardcore bands from the early 80s
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.08,0:17:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the very first time we saw the melvins
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.03,0:17:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i realised a band could completely clear a room
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.09,0:17:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or completely change somebody's life
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.08,0:17:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faster faser faster, and then the melvins came along
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.08,0:17:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were like "awesome"
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.09,0:17:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,motorhyead doesnt get enough credit i would say that
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.06,0:17:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were the real first punk metal hybrdi
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.02,0:17:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was na perfect exemple of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.05,0:17:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even black flag was so popular fans were willing to go anywhee
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.10,0:17:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just sit nhere
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.02,0:17:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,black flag played in the desert
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.04,0:17:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably like in 1981
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.05,0:17:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ou konw the desrert, even so now, but more so 15 20 years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.04,0:17:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was primarilly a retirement community
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.09,0:18:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its like a vaccum of like you know musiuc culture
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.04,0:18:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was no question of going to la
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.08,0:18:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i never went to la
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.04,0:18:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i mean if i went to palm springs it was like a day thing
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.07,0:18:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was no record store
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.04,0:18:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was all about the desert and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.10,0:18:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasnt something we cdlebrated
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.06,0:18:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe like it might be today
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.05,0:18:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the desert is a place for the newly wed and the nearly dead
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.09,0:18:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i mean its that place
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.10,0:18:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bands were coming and they were like punk rocj bands
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.02,0:18:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were developing out there
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.08,0:18:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the earlier ones were like dead issue
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.06,0:18:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and skabies babies
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.00,0:18:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a band called dead issue i was a paret of
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.04,0:18:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that became across the river with marlow raollali
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.08,0:18:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alfredo hernandez was also in tha band
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.06,0:18:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he played in kyuss for a xwhile
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.00,0:19:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,queens of the stone age
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.10,0:19:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were few other people but
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.10,0:19:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would say like
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.06,0:19:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the earliest if you wanna say across the river
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.00,0:19:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was klike one of the ones that
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.00,0:19:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i just remeber so vividly that was like a moment of change
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.08,0:19:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole sstc that was like our idols
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.04,0:19:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,black flag, meat puppets, minute me,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.06,0:19:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,october faction
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.02,0:19:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here are hot pepper sear
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.04,0:19:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are some bana pepper saer
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.02,0:19:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are ta mere dragons
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.08,0:19:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when these turn red these are hotterthan hekll
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.01,0:19:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is doom
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.06,0:19:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first of all, what ly understanding of the styke of music
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.02,0:19:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we want to call doom
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.04,0:20:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is kinda jut like i said before a gut, a real visceral
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.05,0:20:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotional
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.01,0:20:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pull
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.03,0:20:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that will make you cry
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.03,0:20:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i think
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when i really moved into like a concrete form of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm in a doom band
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely the same
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we played a few shows with st vitus
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they had their old singer, scott
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they got the new guy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wino
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his first show was on ly 21st birthday in 1986
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this little community center in palm desert
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dri, st vitus and across the river
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it always felt like across the river was onto something really special
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have albums by, everything from mountin to black sabbath
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early metallica
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all kinds of stuff
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were kinda combining that swith the feelings we got from punk rock
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soeakers just fucking melting in front of you
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love that sound
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we started going back and instead of (poum poum tchak tchakl prrllrllrll)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was just slower, slow down, voilume, saturation, blues
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they like, just alienated themselvres from that whole game of like
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,playing fast and riffing around, the whole punk metal thing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just bypassed that straight to nrock
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noone was really dpoing i
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards the end of across the river
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soundgarden was starting to make waes in seattle
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were actually part of sst
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same kind of stuff was brewing up there that was brewing out here
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody... everybody knew me as the singer of st vitus
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but nobody knew i played guitar
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of interesting situation where i think it aws
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scott mars from band across he river
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we jammed at a partu near ventura, by the beach
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was playing drums, he was playing guitar
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i didnt know he could play guitar
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mario lally was playing bass
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we did this crazy jam
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afterwards it was like "man what kind of fucking band is this"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caught up scott, and we agreed to forge ahaed as the obsessed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thats what we did it was me, scott reeder and greg rogers
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after struggling a little bit here and there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scott reeder left to join kyuss
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thats when kyuss basically exploded
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were like the only band in the desert touring
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were the ones, they were the ones that basically stared perpetuated our univers out there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like a blueprint for desert rock i guess it would be it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guys like mario lally and kyuss really took it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the next step by not only saying
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know were ? so maybe we dont know what the hip thing is
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they actually embraced that instead
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only "were gonna reject the hip thing" but "were gonna reject tje lmasses at the same time"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i mean i hate to say it but a lot of it had to do with we just started smoking grass
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you tzke a group of kids
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,digging aggressive music and certainly like hardcore punk
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they start smoking dub, interesting things happen
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thats an interesting music
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened with the obessed was thrash it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slayer and that type of music is just too big
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was it thats what the 80s became
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either you were a hair band
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you were a thrash band
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody deserve to be a rock star, be that guy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its like heaven
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,youre cursed to be the underdog, theres no way out
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just gotta be there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but people love you because you stayed that way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you stuck to your guns
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and never stopped playing what you play
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we formed comets in 1999
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ben machin and i formed the group in santa cruz california
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,youn know he and i were in the just like anthemic rock lmusic
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grand funk and some punk rock
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just kinda old favorites and stuff like that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were just getting in further out stuff like
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coltrane and free jazz stuff
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its not just a synth that makes fun sound
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no it s a
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so tyou can put the scene effects on your