WEBVTT 00:00:00.534 --> 00:00:08.208 ...they came as slaves, white slaves, that's all I know. 00:00:08.208 --> 00:00:10.417 They were in plantations. 00:00:10.417 --> 00:00:12.500 My own grandfather, 00:00:12.500 --> 00:00:14.489 they work in the land, 00:00:14.489 --> 00:00:21.625 they work in the land, my father work in the land, in the factory, making sugar. 00:00:21.625 --> 00:00:25.449 Well, they had to put them all under shelter 00:00:25.449 --> 00:00:27.952 because they couldn't stand the heat. 00:00:28.746 --> 00:00:32.083 I work in the plantation overseas, 00:00:32.083 --> 00:00:37.429 I work the fields, and do the boats_ 00:00:39.208 --> 00:00:40.681 [narrator] What is it you love about Barbados? 00:00:40.681 --> 00:00:43.083 What I love about it, were born here. 00:00:43.083 --> 00:00:45.627 Born here, this my little island. 00:00:47.090 --> 00:00:49.298 [narrator] So you're complete Barbadian, you're not Scottish, you're Barbadian? 00:00:50.292 --> 00:00:52.750 Well, I born in Barbados. 00:00:52.750 --> 00:00:57.542 Am I Scottish, maybe great great great great grandfathers, 00:00:57.542 --> 00:00:59.517 that's al I could tell you. 00:00:59.625 --> 00:01:03.750 I understand my family came here by slave ship. 00:01:03.750 --> 00:01:06.708 And they was workin' as slaves, 00:01:06.708 --> 00:01:10.958 and then from there... 00:01:10.958 --> 00:01:14.250 went on, you know the skin couldn't take the sun, 00:01:14.250 --> 00:01:17.910 so they had coloured people then came. 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.875 But all my family ... growing up was with the land. 00:01:23.875 --> 00:01:26.703 They work the land, they prepare food, 00:01:26.703 --> 00:01:31.208 but they never went to the supermarkets and thing 00:01:31.208 --> 00:01:35.667 for everything they want to eat they'll grow it theyself. 00:01:35.667 --> 00:01:37.144 _almighty. 00:01:37.958 --> 00:01:39.604 [narrator] Where are we in Barbados here? 00:01:40.042 --> 00:01:43.123 This is, eh, New Castle, close to Martin's Bay. 00:01:44.583 --> 00:01:46.167 [narrator-- can't hear question] 00:01:46.167 --> 00:01:49.917 Yeah,.... it look like it fit under the hill... 00:01:49.917 --> 00:01:51.792 if you stand you see it... 00:01:51.792 --> 00:01:54.152 under the property... 00:01:57.168 --> 00:02:00.167 I go Sister Margaret's church. 00:02:00.167 --> 00:02:03.708 St. John sometimes. 00:02:03.708 --> 00:02:07.917 Or sometimes I go to different religion. 00:02:07.917 --> 00:02:10.868 I don't keep one religion. 00:02:10.868 --> 00:02:15.405 I keep everybody that connect with the almighty. 00:02:16.533 --> 00:02:23.555 I understand that my father, his parents from Scotland, 00:02:26.917 --> 00:02:30.708 what part of Scotland, I don't know. 00:02:30.708 --> 00:02:36.375 Because, you know, people today talkin' about slavery, 00:02:36.375 --> 00:02:39.289 the __ 00:02:39.289 --> 00:02:44.042 we all _ white people, some of us, was in slavery too, 00:02:44.042 --> 00:02:53.292 but they never, at least, _ the history or my education is not that good. 00:02:53.292 --> 00:02:57.458 My life story as far as I can remember 00:02:57.458 --> 00:03:06.038 I born in a place such as like a jungle, the woods, crept all woods, 00:03:06.038 --> 00:03:10.775 and my father and mother was pretty poor, 00:03:10.775 --> 00:03:15.000 raised up in a small 18' x 10' wooden house 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.958 which we call a chattal house. 00:03:18.958 --> 00:03:20.625 When I was a youngster, 00:03:20.625 --> 00:03:23.458 I used to go __ Clifton Hall, 00:03:23.458 --> 00:03:26.638 00:03:26.638 --> 00:03:29.125 and has sprouts come up, 00:03:29.125 --> 00:03:32.463 as a boy I dig some... 00:03:32.463 --> 00:03:35.375 was hungry 00:03:35.375 --> 00:03:37.250 I had to eat some of them raw 00:03:37.250 --> 00:03:42.792 I had to eat them kinda things to survive. 00:03:42.792 --> 00:03:46.083 __didn't get education. 00:03:46.083 --> 00:03:53.083 I got it from trying to read newspapers and comic books, and I start to get educated... 00:03:53.083 --> 00:04:00.750 workin... a cash machine, givin' back change and everything like that. 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:03.798 I got the education I have. 00:04:05.458 --> 00:04:12.208 But I just relax at home now, enjoy a little pension from the government, 00:04:12.208 --> 00:04:16.821 it ain't a big lot, but..._ 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:21.708 [narrator] The streets of modern Scottish cities 00:04:21.708 --> 00:04:26.625 are closer to the chattel houses of Martin's Bay than maybe we like to think. 00:04:26.625 --> 00:04:29.750 Those old tobacco lords aren't ancient history. 00:04:29.750 --> 00:04:32.875 Our relationship with the West Indies carries on. 00:04:32.875 --> 00:04:35.304 Tom Divine reckons it's time we understood it better. [/narrator] 00:04:37.333 --> 00:04:39.375 It's my belief that a mature nation, 00:04:39.375 --> 00:04:43.292 and I think Scotlad is a lot more mature than it was 20 to 30 years ago, 00:04:43.292 --> 00:04:45.583 a mature nation with a devolved parliament, 00:04:45.583 --> 00:04:48.125 with a greater sense of national self confidence, 00:04:48.125 --> 00:04:51.458 should be able to look at its past directly in the face, 00:04:51.458 --> 00:04:53.480 and come to terms with these issues. 00:04:56.250 --> 00:05:00.002 [narrator] Judith Martin is one woman who's making sense of her own past. 00:05:00.002 --> 00:05:03.083 Judith's ancestors are Barbadian on her father's side. 00:05:03.083 --> 00:05:08.733 An ancestor of his, was most likely William Bruce, who arrived on the island in 1746, 00:05:08.733 --> 00:05:11.846 surely a Jacobite, Barbados'd after the '45. 00:05:13.144 --> 00:05:18.625 Martin and Bruce, the family names couldn't be more Scottish, or more Redleg. 00:05:18.625 --> 00:05:20.417 And they turned full circle. 00:05:20.417 --> 00:05:22.292 Judith now lives in Glasgow, 00:05:22.292 --> 00:05:25.263 her father brought the family back from the West Indies in search of work. [/narrator] 00:05:27.726 --> 00:05:32.825 While we were here, he found out that there was a Scottish connection, 00:05:34.118 --> 00:05:38.292 and one day he said "I think that we have Scottish blood", 00:05:38.292 --> 00:05:42.021 that, ehm, Scots went to Barbados. 00:05:43.542 --> 00:05:46.667 I had my grandmother's birth certificate, 00:05:46.667 --> 00:05:51.208 her name was Ada Beaufort on the birth certificate, 00:05:51.208 --> 00:05:56.500 but later, later papers that I have, name her as Bruce. 00:05:56.500 --> 00:05:59.292 And I reckon she was born on the plantation. 00:05:59.292 --> 00:06:04.542 And her mother was a worker on the plantation, 00:06:04.542 --> 00:06:11.625 and I would think that her father would have been also a worker on the plantation. 00:06:11.625 --> 00:06:16.083 Her mother was a slave, quite simply. 00:06:16.083 --> 00:06:24.058 And that her father was also a slave, or white indentured labourer. 00:06:24.058 --> 00:06:26.250 I want to write about it somehow. 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:29.934 I, I think my grandmother deserves that. 00:06:31.250 --> 00:06:38.708 You see that big building in the middle, here, that's the plantation house. 00:06:38.708 --> 00:06:43.292 And it's a beautiful, lush place. 00:06:43.292 --> 00:06:45.952 It's still there. 00:06:48.583 --> 00:06:50.398 Living history. 00:06:50.667 --> 00:06:55.875 We stood on the hill, looked down on that, and I'm emotional now, [voice cracking] 00:06:55.875 --> 00:06:58.069 at the thought of my gran. 00:07:06.958 --> 00:07:11.250 [narrator] Washed up by history, there's little doubt that for 200 years and more, 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:16.250 the tradewinds of Atlantic commerce blew the descendents of Scots indentured workers 00:07:16.250 --> 00:07:19.917 into a cultural no man's land. 00:07:19.917 --> 00:07:23.583 To the black Bajan majority the Redlegs are a ghost people, 00:07:23.583 --> 00:07:26.042 they know very little about their white neighbours, 00:07:26.042 --> 00:07:28.958 nothing of their extraordinary story. 00:07:28.958 --> 00:07:33.904 Redlegs are mistaken for all-drinks-included package tourists. 00:07:33.904 --> 00:07:38.792 It's partly the fault of their forefathers who chose race over class. 00:07:38.792 --> 00:07:41.333 They won't make that mistake again. 00:07:41.333 --> 00:07:46.000 How easy it is to lose an identity, how hard to forge a new one. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.866 If the Redlegs as an ethnic group are in danger of disappearing, it's for positive reasons. 00:07:52.155 --> 00:07:56.659 The great great grandsons and daughters of highland and lowland Scots 00:07:56.659 --> 00:07:59.904 are at last becoming fully fledged Barbadians. [/narrator] 00:08:00.958 --> 00:08:04.125 I don't remember where the lady came from, 00:08:04.125 --> 00:08:06.830 but I remember she looked at me and she asked me 00:08:07.630 --> 00:08:09.802 "You from Barbados?". 00:08:09.802 --> 00:08:11.292 I say "yes, I was born here", 00:08:11.292 --> 00:08:15.958 she say "you know, it's strange, you don't look so, you don't soud like a Bajan" 00:08:15.958 --> 00:08:19.583 I say well, I can't _ that. 00:08:19.583 --> 00:08:22.542 Cause I'm a Bajan by birth. 00:08:22.542 --> 00:08:29.044 We are all white, we are all one, and I don't think colour should really be a discrimination. 00:08:29.817 --> 00:08:32.833 [narrator] You're family's a great example, could you tell us about your own family now, 00:08:32.833 --> 00:08:34.633 your husband and your children and you're, all that? [/narrator] 00:08:35.855 --> 00:08:39.458 00:08:39.458 --> 00:08:42.917 We were married November is 40 years. 00:08:42.917 --> 00:08:48.000 At first, some of my family from my father's side, 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.667 they didn't like the idea of me getting married to him, 00:08:51.667 --> 00:08:56.000 but I had to let them know, it is me, 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:02.280 and I think, if it is my happiness, then, it should be ok, and so far no regrets. 00:09:05.625 --> 00:09:08.192 [narrator] How do you think for yer children and yer grandchildren, will it get easier? [/narrator] 00:09:09.042 --> 00:09:11.083 I'm hopin' it would for them. 00:09:11.083 --> 00:09:14.250 My oldest granddaughter, and she's headin' on to university. 00:09:14.250 --> 00:09:16.250 But all she's tellin' me is "granny not to worry, 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:19.560 one good day there you're going to be out of this. I'm gonna help you" 00:09:19.560 --> 00:09:22.337 That's all she's tellin' me, that's my oldest gran. 00:09:22.798 --> 00:09:24.931 [narrator] Is she the first in your family to go to university? [/narrator] 00:09:26.311 --> 00:09:27.792 Yeah, first one in the family. 00:09:27.792 --> 00:09:30.250 And I'm very proud of her. 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:32.070 And I feel good that's for sure. 00:09:32.070 --> 00:09:35.871 I don't mind what people think, I feel good. And I feel proud of who I am.