1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:08,208 ...they came as slaves, white slaves, that's all I know. 2 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:10,417 They were in plantations. 3 00:00:10,417 --> 00:00:12,500 My own grandfather, 4 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,489 they work in the land, 5 00:00:14,489 --> 00:00:21,625 they work in the land, my father work in the land, in the factory, making sugar. 6 00:00:21,625 --> 00:00:25,449 Well, they had to put them all under shelter 7 00:00:25,449 --> 00:00:27,952 because they couldn't stand the heat. 8 00:00:28,746 --> 00:00:32,083 I work in the plantation overseas, 9 00:00:32,083 --> 00:00:37,429 I work the fields, and do the boats_ 10 00:00:39,208 --> 00:00:40,681 [narrator] What is it you love about Barbados? 11 00:00:40,681 --> 00:00:43,083 What I love about it, were born here. 12 00:00:43,083 --> 00:00:45,627 Born here, this my little island. 13 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:49,298 [narrator] So you're complete Barbadian, you're not Scottish, you're Barbadian? 14 00:00:50,292 --> 00:00:52,750 Well, I born in Barbados. 15 00:00:52,750 --> 00:00:57,542 Am I Scottish, maybe great great great great grandfathers, 16 00:00:57,542 --> 00:00:59,517 that's al I could tell you. 17 00:00:59,625 --> 00:01:03,750 I understand my family came here by slave ship. 18 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:06,708 And they was workin' as slaves, 19 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:10,958 and then from there... 20 00:01:10,958 --> 00:01:14,250 went on, you know the skin couldn't take the sun, 21 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:17,910 so they had coloured people then came. 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,875 But all my family ... growing up was with the land. 23 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:26,703 They work the land, they prepare food, 24 00:01:26,703 --> 00:01:31,208 but they never went to the supermarkets and thing 25 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:35,667 for everything they want to eat they'll grow it theyself. 26 00:01:35,667 --> 00:01:37,144 _almighty. 27 00:01:37,958 --> 00:01:39,604 [narrator] Where are we in Barbados here? 28 00:01:40,042 --> 00:01:43,123 This is, eh, New Castle, close to Martin's Bay. 29 00:01:44,583 --> 00:01:46,167 [narrator-- can't hear question] 30 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:49,917 Yeah,.... it look like it fit under the hill... 31 00:01:49,917 --> 00:01:51,792 if you stand you see it... 32 00:01:51,792 --> 00:01:54,152 under the property... 33 00:01:57,168 --> 00:02:00,167 I go Sister Margaret's church. 34 00:02:00,167 --> 00:02:03,708 St. John sometimes. 35 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:07,917 Or sometimes I go to different religion. 36 00:02:07,917 --> 00:02:10,868 I don't keep one religion. 37 00:02:10,868 --> 00:02:15,405 I keep everybody that connect with the almighty. 38 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:23,555 I understand that my father, his parents from Scotland, 39 00:02:26,917 --> 00:02:30,708 what part of Scotland, I don't know. 40 00:02:30,708 --> 00:02:36,375 Because, you know, people today talkin' about slavery, 41 00:02:36,375 --> 00:02:39,289 the __ 42 00:02:39,289 --> 00:02:44,042 we all _ white people, some of us, was in slavery too, 43 00:02:44,042 --> 00:02:53,292 but they never, at least, _ the history or my education is not that good. 44 00:02:53,292 --> 00:02:57,458 My life story as far as I can remember 45 00:02:57,458 --> 00:03:06,038 I born in a place such as like a jungle, the woods, crept all woods, 46 00:03:06,038 --> 00:03:10,775 and my father and mother was pretty poor, 47 00:03:10,775 --> 00:03:15,000 raised up in a small 18' x 10' wooden house 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,958 which we call a chattal house. 49 00:03:18,958 --> 00:03:20,625 When I was a youngster, 50 00:03:20,625 --> 00:03:23,458 I used to go __ Clifton Hall, 51 00:03:23,458 --> 00:03:26,638 52 00:03:26,638 --> 00:03:29,125 and has sprouts come up, 53 00:03:29,125 --> 00:03:32,463 as a boy I dig some... 54 00:03:32,463 --> 00:03:35,375 was hungry 55 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:37,250 I had to eat some of them raw 56 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:42,792 I had to eat them kinda things to survive. 57 00:03:42,792 --> 00:03:46,083 __didn't get education. 58 00:03:46,083 --> 00:03:53,083 I got it from trying to read newspapers and comic books, and I start to get educated... 59 00:03:53,083 --> 00:04:00,750 workin... a cash machine, givin' back change and everything like that. 60 00:04:00,750 --> 00:04:03,798 I got the education I have. 61 00:04:05,458 --> 00:04:12,208 But I just relax at home now, enjoy a little pension from the government, 62 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:16,821 it ain't a big lot, but..._ 63 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,708 [narrator] The streets of modern Scottish cities 64 00:04:21,708 --> 00:04:26,625 are closer to the chattel houses of Martin's Bay than maybe we like to think. 65 00:04:26,625 --> 00:04:29,750 Those old tobacco lords aren't ancient history. 66 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:32,875 Our relationship with the West Indies carries on. 67 00:04:32,875 --> 00:04:35,304 Tom Divine reckons it's time we understood it better. [/narrator] 68 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:39,375 It's my belief that a mature nation, 69 00:04:39,375 --> 00:04:43,292 and I think Scotlad is a lot more mature than it was 20 to 30 years ago, 70 00:04:43,292 --> 00:04:45,583 a mature nation with a devolved parliament, 71 00:04:45,583 --> 00:04:48,125 with a greater sense of national self confidence, 72 00:04:48,125 --> 00:04:51,458 should be able to look at its past directly in the face, 73 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,480 and come to terms with these issues. 74 00:04:56,250 --> 00:05:00,002 [narrator] Judith Martin is one woman who's making sense of her own past. 75 00:05:00,002 --> 00:05:03,083 Judith's ancestors are Barbadian on her father's side. 76 00:05:03,083 --> 00:05:08,733 An ancestor of his, was most likely William Bruce, who arrived on the island in 1746, 77 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:11,846 surely a Jacobite, Barbados'd after the '45. 78 00:05:13,144 --> 00:05:18,625 Martin and Bruce, the family names couldn't be more Scottish, or more Redleg. 79 00:05:18,625 --> 00:05:20,417 And they turned full circle. 80 00:05:20,417 --> 00:05:22,292 Judith now lives in Glasgow, 81 00:05:22,292 --> 00:05:25,263 her father brought the family back from the West Indies in search of work. [/narrator] 82 00:05:27,726 --> 00:05:32,825 While we were here, he found out that there was a Scottish connection, 83 00:05:34,118 --> 00:05:38,292 and one day he said "I think that we have Scottish blood", 84 00:05:38,292 --> 00:05:42,021 that, ehm, Scots went to Barbados. 85 00:05:43,542 --> 00:05:46,667 I had my grandmother's birth certificate, 86 00:05:46,667 --> 00:05:51,208 her name was Ada Beaufort on the birth certificate, 87 00:05:51,208 --> 00:05:56,500 but later, later papers that I have, name her as Bruce. 88 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,292 And I reckon she was born on the plantation. 89 00:05:59,292 --> 00:06:04,542 And her mother was a worker on the plantation, 90 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:11,625 and I would think that her father would have been also a worker on the plantation. 91 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:16,083 Her mother was a slave, quite simply. 92 00:06:16,083 --> 00:06:24,058 And that her father was also a slave, or white indentured labourer. 93 00:06:24,058 --> 00:06:26,250 I want to write about it somehow. 94 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:29,934 I, I think my grandmother deserves that. 95 00:06:31,250 --> 00:06:38,708 You see that big building in the middle, here, that's the plantation house. 96 00:06:38,708 --> 00:06:43,292 And it's a beautiful, lush place. 97 00:06:43,292 --> 00:06:45,952 It's still there. 98 00:06:48,583 --> 00:06:50,398 Living history. 99 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:55,875 We stood on the hill, looked down on that, and I'm emotional now, [voice cracking] 100 00:06:55,875 --> 00:06:58,069 at the thought of my gran. 101 00:07:06,958 --> 00:07:11,250 [narrator] Washed up by history, there's little doubt that for 200 years and more, 102 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:16,250 the tradewinds of Atlantic commerce blew the descendents of Scots indentured workers 103 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,917 into a cultural no man's land. 104 00:07:19,917 --> 00:07:23,583 To the black Bajan majority the Redlegs are a ghost people, 105 00:07:23,583 --> 00:07:26,042 they know very little about their white neighbours, 106 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,958 nothing of their extraordinary story. 107 00:07:28,958 --> 00:07:33,904 Redlegs are mistaken for all-drinks-included package tourists. 108 00:07:33,904 --> 00:07:38,792 It's partly the fault of their forefathers who chose race over class. 109 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:41,333 They won't make that mistake again. 110 00:07:41,333 --> 00:07:46,000 How easy it is to lose an identity, how hard to forge a new one. 111 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,866 If the Redlegs as an ethnic group are in danger of disappearing, it's for positive reasons. 112 00:07:52,155 --> 00:07:56,659 The great great grandsons and daughters of highland and lowland Scots 113 00:07:56,659 --> 00:07:59,904 are at last becoming fully fledged Barbadians. [/narrator] 114 00:08:00,958 --> 00:08:04,125 I don't remember where the lady came from, 115 00:08:04,125 --> 00:08:06,830 but I remember she looked at me and she asked me 116 00:08:07,630 --> 00:08:09,802 "You from Barbados?". 117 00:08:09,802 --> 00:08:11,292 I say "yes, I was born here", 118 00:08:11,292 --> 00:08:15,958 she say "you know, it's strange, you don't look so, you don't soud like a Bajan" 119 00:08:15,958 --> 00:08:19,583 I say well, I can't _ that. 120 00:08:19,583 --> 00:08:22,542 Cause I'm a Bajan by birth. 121 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:29,044 We are all white, we are all one, and I don't think colour should really be a discrimination. 122 00:08:29,817 --> 00:08:32,833 [narrator] You're family's a great example, could you tell us about your own family now, 123 00:08:32,833 --> 00:08:34,633 your husband and your children and you're, all that? [/narrator] 124 00:08:35,855 --> 00:08:39,458 125 00:08:39,458 --> 00:08:42,917 We were married November is 40 years. 126 00:08:42,917 --> 00:08:48,000 At first, some of my family from my father's side, 127 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,667 they didn't like the idea of me getting married to him, 128 00:08:51,667 --> 00:08:56,000 but I had to let them know, it is me, 129 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,280 and I think, if it is my happiness, then, it should be ok, and so far no regrets. 130 00:09:05,625 --> 00:09:08,192 [narrator] How do you think for yer children and yer grandchildren, will it get easier? [/narrator] 131 00:09:09,042 --> 00:09:11,083 I'm hopin' it would for them. 132 00:09:11,083 --> 00:09:14,250 My oldest granddaughter, and she's headin' on to university. 133 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:16,250 But all she's tellin' me is "granny not to worry, 134 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:19,560 one good day there you're going to be out of this. I'm gonna help you" 135 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,337 That's all she's tellin' me, that's my oldest gran. 136 00:09:22,798 --> 00:09:24,931 [narrator] Is she the first in your family to go to university? [/narrator] 137 00:09:26,311 --> 00:09:27,792 Yeah, first one in the family. 138 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:30,250 And I'm very proud of her. 139 00:09:30,250 --> 00:09:32,070 And I feel good that's for sure. 140 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:35,871 I don't mind what people think, I feel good. And I feel proud of who I am.