0:00:00.047,0:00:03.820 (Hangouts Google+) 0:00:03.820,0:00:06.842 (amara - Amara Town Hall [up to 0:01:38]) 0:01:37.834,0:01:40.455 (main screen shows Jules Rincón) 0:01:40.455,0:01:46.212 (amara - Amara Town Hall [up to 0:04:17]) 0:04:16.793,0:04:17.948 (Subpage of Jules Rincón's Google+ page) 0:04:17.948,0:04:20.080 (Jules Rincón's Google+ page) 0:04:20.080,0:04:24.134 (Dean Jansen, mute [up to 0:04:35]) 0:04:34.589,0:04:39.194 (Main screen: CART with CART testing texts [up to 0:05:13]) 0:05:12.863,0:05:19.066 [Metallic voices, lots of static] 0:05:19.066,0:05:30.601 (Main screen: CART with CART testing texts) 0:05:30.601,0:05:33.043 [Dean Jansen] Hey everyone! We're just about to get started here. 0:05:33.043,0:05:41.738 This is Dean. We're trying to get some CART online for folks who are deaf or [audio stops] 0:05:47.602,0:05:51.000 [Dean Jansen] And I just had the YouTube video open in the other screen, 0:05:51.000,0:05:52.577 so I started hearing my own voice. 0:05:52.577,0:05:58.854 Hem, let's see: Michael Lockrey is having us get CART working 0:05:58.854,0:06:02.776 and you can see his screen right now, so hopefully we're going to start getting that - 0:06:02.776,0:06:04.307 Ah, there it goes, I think. 0:06:07.476,0:06:10.946 Hem, and then we've just got a couple other things to get going. 0:06:10.946,0:06:14.413 Jules has her sound working, she's in a bit of a noisy environment, 0:06:14.413,0:06:20.627 so I'll be doing much of the - much of the talking, 0:06:20.627,0:06:25.566 but we'll definitely want to hear a little bit from Jules, as long as things don't get to loud there. 0:06:25.566,0:06:34.989 I'm being told that my microphone is a bit low. Can folks hear me OK? 0:06:36.804,0:06:43.852 And you should definitely set the capt- errh, the comments in the YouTube video 0:06:43.852,0:06:45.798 to display automatic updates. 0:06:45.798,0:06:50.031 There is - I see already a lot of folks in there commenting, 0:06:50.892,0:06:57.054 Darren, Claude, Seelan, Burgertester (?), lots of different folks. 0:06:57.946,0:07:01.927 We have 17 people who are watching right now. 0:07:05.778,0:07:07.009 OK. 0:07:08.190,0:07:11.275 And Jules, do you - are you able to say hi now? 0:07:12.722,0:07:15.100 You've got your - your - you've got your [inaudibe] 0:07:15.100,0:07:26.460 [Jules Rincón] Hello, hi. I'm [inaudible] I'm Jules [inaudible] 0:07:26.460,0:07:34.771 for answering your e-mail [inaudible] 0:07:35.786,0:07:38.471 [Dean Jansen] OK. That was a bit choppy. 0:07:39.671,0:07:47.038 Let's see. OK, well, let me pull up a quick - 0:07:47.038,0:07:50.748 sorry that we're not totally running: we are just coming, getting all the technology going, 0:07:50.748,0:07:53.079 this is still pretty new for all of us. 0:07:53.079,0:08:02.701 Is the CART in full - in full effect now?[br]Still can't tell. 0:08:05.655,0:08:10.526 And can other folks in the, in - Jules was mentioning that the volume's a bit low. 0:08:10.526,0:08:13.318 Are people on YouTube able to hear me OK? 0:08:17.462,0:08:21.443 OK. I see a lot of people saying they can hear me OK. 0:08:24.443,0:08:27.600 Now I think we just need to get this CART going and we're going to be ready to go. 0:08:29.948,0:08:31.086 Hem - 0:08:36.333,0:08:40.959 And is that - is the CART the main thing that's showing on the YouTube screen right now? 0:08:40.959,0:08:41.859 Yes, it is. 0:08:42.552,0:08:46.082 I mean to get the presentation pulled up and I will show a link to everyone 0:08:46.082,0:08:51.042 so that you can have multiple windows open in case you want to watch the CART 0:08:51.042,0:08:54.628 and also follow along the presentations at the same time. 0:08:55.331,0:09:02.944 Hem, actually, maybe Darren - Darren, could you show that link in - can you share that link 0:09:02.944,0:09:06.355 in the YouTube video - in the YouTube comments? 0:09:06.355,0:09:11.198 Now there is a published link I believe. OK, cool, thanks. 0:09:11.198,0:09:16.570 We've got that coming, I'm going to get it up on my screen now. 0:09:17.123,0:09:21.769 I have, like, more screens than I think I've ever had going at one time here, so - 0:09:21.769,0:09:25.087 [inaudible: bear with us?] and once we get the CART going, 0:09:25.087,0:09:29.385 I think we'll be ready to do some introductions and be ready to take off here. 0:09:31.924,0:09:34.672 And for anyone who is able to listen in 0:09:34.672,0:09:38.614 and can relay some of this information in the comments, that's really helpful. 0:09:38.614,0:09:40.129 Much appreciated.[br][clicking noises up to 0:10:04] 0:10:03.883,0:10:08.880 OK, let's see: I believe we're getting closer and closer.[br][clicking noises up to 0:10:19] 0:10:19.096,0:10:22.501 I'm in a message (?) Michael is speaking on the CART right now. 0:10:22.501,0:10:24.201 Let's see how that's going. 0:10:24.201,0:10:29.831 [Typing noises up to 0:10:37][br](CART: Caption screen share test screen. Further testing of caption reseizing) 0:10:37.234,0:10:40.912 OK We're doing caption sizing testing right now[br](CART: testing words) 0:10:40.912,0:10:48.386 (CART: "further testing of caption sizing resizing caption screen to fit viewing window") 0:10:49.291,0:10:55.150 [typing noises up to 0:10:17][br](CART: testing words) 0:11:17.223,0:11:22.465 [Dean Jansen] OK. Alright, so we just have the - 0:11:22.465,0:11:28.673 the CART operator has joined the - the hangout 0:11:28.673,0:11:34.592 and so now he should have the audio feed. 0:11:37.284,0:11:45.254 [typing noises up to 0:12:05][br](CART: testing words) 0:12:05.221,0:12:06.867 [Dean Jansen] OK 0:12:07.694,0:12:18.456 typing noises][br](CART: testing words) 0:12:18.506,0:12:21.570 (Beginning of CC subs based on the CART transcript: the CC subs are sync'd with the audio )[br][Dean Jansen] Thanks, everyone for bearing with us here. 0:12:22.293,0:12:24.362 [br]We have 11 viewers right now. 0:12:24.362,0:12:31.062 Darren and Jules, If you want to update the banner on the website 0:12:31.062,0:12:34.746 - [inaudible] this is happening right now - that might be worthwhile 0:12:34.746,0:12:39.492 and just update it with the direct link to the you tube video. 0:12:45.661,0:12:50.207 [Dean Jansen] OK, I think I'm starting to see some of the CART text showing up. 0:12:50.207,0:12:54.007 (onscreen: previous CART text showing)[br][typing noises up to 0:14:34] 0:14:34.126,0:14:36.141 [Dean Jansen]: I think we're ready to go. 0:14:44.302,0:14:49.460 I am going to wait until I see the CART update to really get started. 0:14:50.466,0:14:56.068 Darren is putting the announcement up on the Amara website right now 0:14:56.068,0:14:59.453 so folks can join in if they are free. 0:15:01.007,0:15:05.821 Okay. I see some text coming up. Which seems like good news. 0:15:06.273,0:15:11.253 So, thank you, all, for joining. Right now we have 13 folks watching. 0:15:12.499,0:15:18.252 And I wanted to start this out. Let me pull up my agenda real quick. 0:15:18.252,0:15:19.796 I just wanted to start this out. 0:15:19.796,0:15:22.954 Actually Jules was going to be starting this out for us. 0:15:22.954,0:15:28.073 She is - you can see her thumbnail in the bottom section of the screeen 0:15:28.073,0:15:34.873 She - her internet connection has been going on and off - she is a very noisy coffee house, still helping out. 0:15:34.873,0:15:37.157 She is going to be in the comments along with Darren. 0:15:37.157,0:15:41.238 So, I wanted to start out by saying thanks to all of the folks 0:15:41.238,0:15:45.732 who have helped make this possible, including Michael Lockrey, 0:15:45.732,0:15:51.750 who is - his is the screen showing the cart text right now, which is fantastic. 0:15:51.750,0:15:54.920 Jules helped get this whole thing organized. 0:15:54.920,0:15:56.974 Darren has been involved from the beginning. 0:15:56.974,0:16:02.648 And then, even a bigger thanks goes out to the community and volunteers, 0:16:02.648,0:16:04.486 the people who are here right now 0:16:04.486,0:16:07.451 as well as the folks who are - weren't able to make it, 0:16:07.455,0:16:11.550 who are on Amara doing captions, translations, subtitles. 0:16:12.223,0:16:14.619 Some folks are promoting and sharing, 0:16:14.619,0:16:19.619 we have people on the Captions Requested and the Music Captioning teams 0:16:19.619,0:16:23.852 doing a lot of great work and translation happening all over‑the‑board. 0:16:23.852,0:16:24.982 Really exciting stuff. 0:16:24.982,0:16:27.447 So I think that - that's how we wanted to open this, 0:16:27.447,0:16:31.136 just by saying thank you to everyone who has been involved 0:16:31.136,0:16:33.764 in making Amara such a success. 0:16:35.579,0:16:39.819 Jules was going to introduce herself but again since it's so noisy 0:16:39.819,0:16:42.586 I'll do a quick introduction for Jules. 0:16:42.586,0:16:45.826 She has been doing a fantastic job of community advocacy 0:16:45.826,0:16:51.481 and support for Amara for - I don't know - getting close to a year now 0:16:51.481,0:16:58.604 ‑ probably a little less than that ‑ but she has been, you know, working from South America 0:16:58.604,0:17:03.805 and now she's here in the US with us and has been doing a great job on that. 0:17:03.821,0:17:07.642 Darren has also been doing a lot in the community advocacy 0:17:07.642,0:17:11.076 and support side of things 0:17:11.076,0:17:14.701 and has also been working with me on some of the business stuff 0:17:14.701,0:17:17.059 which I'm going to talk very briefly about. 0:17:17.580,0:17:21.208 And then, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Dean. 0:17:21.208,0:17:27.223 I'm one of the co-founders of Amara and my title is Outreach and Business Development director, 0:17:27.223,0:17:33.806 which in the context of a non-profit organization, because Amara is built by a non-profit, 0:17:33.806,0:17:39.846 the Participatory Culture Foundation, business development really means 0:17:39.846,0:17:46.629 finding a way to make this nonprofit and mission-driven project and piece of software sustainable 0:17:46.629,0:17:51.386 so that we can support our developers as they build the tools out 0:17:51.386,0:17:54.801 and make sure that we are able to keep the servers on and everything. 0:17:56.416,0:18:00.902 So, moving forward I will give a quick overview of the meeting, 0:18:00.902,0:18:04.917 where we'll start getting more and more interactive as it goes on. 0:18:05.532,0:18:08.612 But at the beginning, I'¨d like to do a brief slide presentation 0:18:08.612,0:18:11.954 that I hope people are excited about, because it's - 0:18:11.954,0:18:15.646 We'll share just a few pieces of what is to come in Amara 0:18:15.646,0:18:18.603 which I think will answer a lot of outstanding questions 0:18:18.619,0:18:23.327 and hopefully get people excited about the future of Amara. We certainly are. 0:18:23.373,0:18:26.137 The other thing that I wanted to do 0:18:26.137,0:18:29.434 before we went to a full open question and answer 0:18:29.434,0:18:34.756 is that we asked people to talk about their big questions, 0:18:34.756,0:18:36.311 some of the features they would like to see, 0:18:36.311,0:18:41.059 some of the issues they were facing in the forum posts. 0:18:41.059,0:18:44.975 And so there are a couple of highlights there we'd like to go over. 0:18:46.913,0:18:52.085 And once we do that, then I think it would be great to do a full open Q‑A 0:18:52.085,0:18:56.733 over the comments in the YouTube video. 0:18:56.733,0:18:59.452 And then once we do that, we'll wrap it up. 0:19:00.113,0:19:04.012 So we are expecting to be done ‑ 0:19:04.012,0:19:06.803 we should probably finish in the next 40 minutes. 0:19:06.803,0:19:09.945 So we've had an hour schedule for the full meeting. 0:19:09.945,0:19:13.979 So let's start into that slide presentation and for anyone - 0:19:13.979,0:19:19.933 I'm going to spell this out so folks can join this URL in case they don't see it in the comments. 0:19:19.933,0:19:43.443 It's http://goo.gl/gPdZe . That's a shortened Google URL and it's also in the comments 0:19:43.443,0:19:46.933 That's probably the easiest way to get to it, but I just wanted to spell it out there. 0:19:49.672,0:19:52.723 OK, so I'm going to switch my screen 0:19:52.723,0:19:57.650 and so you will be able to see which slide I'm looking at, at the bottom of the YouTube video. 0:19:57.650,0:20:00.807 I'm also just going to say every time I switch a page, 0:20:02.038,0:20:08.163 but I just wanted to make sure that if anyone is watching the CART, they're able to easily stick with that. 0:20:08.532,0:20:14.225 So I'm going to give everyone just a second to make sure they can load up that slide show, 0:20:14.225,0:20:18.788 and if anyone is having trouble, please just comment in the YouTube comments. 0:20:18.788,0:20:23.695 and if you turn on automatic commenting, then you'll see that updates in real time: 0:20:23.695,0:20:25.983 it's basically just like a chat. 0:20:25.983,0:20:33.430 And so it should say "Amara Town Hall" and have the big green Amara logo in the center of it. 0:20:33.430,0:20:38.915 That's the first slide and I'm actually just going to check the - the chat window 0:20:38.915,0:20:40.929 to make sure that folks are able to get in. 0:20:43.175,0:20:45.919 Someone is saying that my audio is screwed up. 0:20:48.466,0:20:53.671 Did someone have that link? I'm just going to [inaudible] that google link 0:20:53.671,0:20:55.929 I'm just going to send that to you in case you want it. 0:21:03.621,0:21:04.990 Sorry.[br][clicking noises up to 0:21:23] 0:21:23.298,0:21:24.913 [Dean Jansen] OK. Here it comes.[br][clicking noises up to 0:21:45] 0:21:45.790,0:21:49.986 [Dean Jansen] Hem, I can't tell if the comments are frozen or not. 0:21:49.986,0:21:51.255 There it goes. 0:21:57.532,0:22:05.593 Darren or Jules, are either of you able to put that link into the - into the YouTube video comments?[br][clicking noises up to 0:22:18] 0:22:18.085,0:22:22.417 [Dean Jansen] Now I'm noticing that the CART is - is not showing up as well. 0:22:23.417,0:22:24.555 Oh oh. 0:22:25.463,0:22:28.860 Darren is saying it doesn't - ah URLs, my goodness. 0:22:28.860,0:22:34.357 OK. So, this is a bit of an oversight. Let me just do something real quick 0:22:34.357,0:22:40.904 to show the URL to folks. Hem, give me half a moment. 0:22:40.904,0:22:49.646 It's funny, when you test these things, it's the small little piece that's going to catch you by surprise. 0:22:49.646,0:22:55.691 So - I've almost got this up and we'll be able to put this on the screen.[br][typing noises up to 0:23:15] [br](onscreen: http::goo.gl/gPdZe) 0:23:15.230,0:23:17.961 [Dean Jansen] OK. Can everyone see this? 0:23:21.146,0:23:25.852 This is the - this is the shortened link that I mentioned, 0:23:25.852,0:23:32.444 and apparently, it's not possible to share these links inside of - inside of a YouTube comment. 0:23:32.444,0:23:34.450 So we are doing it here. 0:23:38.034,0:23:44.785 And Michael, are we able to get the CART showing up again? I'm going to leave you a chat message. 0:23:53.077,0:24:02.469 OK. Then I want to also check comments. Can someone in the comments with their thumbs up 0:24:02.469,0:24:06.938 if they're able to get into that - that Google short URL just so that I know 0:24:06.938,0:24:13.986 that folks are starting to see the - starting to see the slide deck? 0:24:24.170,0:24:32.203 OK, I just got a note that we're - we're switching from the - the CART screen showing 0:24:32.203,0:24:35.248 to a CART screen for Google Hangout. 0:24:35.294,0:24:39.235 Hem - something more direct that should have less legs. 0:24:41.004,0:24:42.535 And it should be up any moment. 0:24:47.638,0:24:50.815 OK. I think we are back on with the CART now.[br](some clicking up to 0:25:11) 0:25:11.661,0:25:15.901 OK, I see a bunch of people saying they see the slides. This is great. 0:25:17.593,0:25:21.632 [Echo from video] OK, I see a bunch of people saying they see the slides. This is great.[br][Clicking noises up to 0:25:44) 0:25:44.354,0:25:52.308 [Dean Jansen] OK. Now that cart appears to be back online, I think we are going to be ready to go again.[br][Clicking noises up to 0:26:18.5) 0:26:18.908,0:26:21.298 Excellent. OK. Thank you. 0:26:21.298,0:26:24.451 So let's all start on slide number 1. 0:26:25.297,0:26:29.798 And if anyone needs that URL please just ask in the comments if you don't have it 0:26:29.798,0:26:31.851 and we will figure out a way to share it with you. 0:26:32.959,0:26:35.916 That was a big oversight on our part, I'm sorry. 0:26:36.723,0:26:40.547 OK, so, slide number 1, which - actually, I'm going to switch - 0:26:41.593,0:26:47.865 I'm going to switch - I'm going to switch my screen - screen share back to that quickly. 0:26:52.803,0:26:54.102 Here we go. 0:26:54.102,0:26:57.561 So if we go on to slide 2, there are a couple of important notes. 0:26:58.638,0:27:00.200 They are about the mock ups. 0:27:00.200,0:27:06.420 And the slide deck is maybe 10 slides long. So it's sure - it's almost purely visual. 0:27:06.420,0:27:10.181 This is the only text slide, but it's really important to say upfront: 0:27:10.181,0:27:14.921 these aren't 100 per cent final. They are mixed representations. 0:27:14.937,0:27:17.862 We were trying to show the most functionality 0:27:17.862,0:27:20.046 in the fewest number of screens possible. 0:27:20.046,0:27:25.442 So, in other words, you may see some features from a fully moderated, like a team video – 0:27:25.442,0:27:29.184 in the exact same screen as features that would normally be exclusive 0:27:29.184,0:27:33.192 to an openly translated video that wasn't on any team. 0:27:34.007,0:27:37.932 So there's - we're not going to be forcing every video to be on a team or anything like that. 0:27:37.932,0:27:40.896 It's just an artefact of us trying to get 0:27:40.896,0:27:43.431 as much functionality into the slides as possible. 0:27:44.800,0:27:52.158 So if we skip to the third slide, it's a TED screen that says "let's get started". 0:27:52.158,0:27:58.484 And you'll see in the section below that - it shows kind of a dashboard view of videos that need your help. 0:27:59.422,0:28:05.976 Now - right now, I think people are used to seeing tasks in video's tabs. 0:28:05.976,0:28:08.494 We're going to try and be simplifying here. 0:28:08.494,0:28:12.626 And just to give a bit more context before I dive into the specifics here, 0:28:13.626,0:28:20.749 I'm going to kind of tell a story about a new type of work flow and a new type of collaboration 0:28:20.749,0:28:24.938 that we're envisioning for Amara in the future. 0:28:24.938,0:28:27.383 This is something that we've just started building now. 0:28:27.383,0:28:31.860 So it's not going to be ready tomorrow but we do want to release this stuff soon. 0:28:31.860,0:28:38.345 And - and the reason we are share it now is so we can start to get feedback ahead of time, 0:28:38.345,0:28:40.803 because we think it's very important to ‑ 0:28:42.049,0:28:46.411 I know folks in the community have asked for increased transparency 0:28:46.411,0:28:49.711 and we think that's really important. So this is part of that: 0:28:49.711,0:28:52.594 just hearing what you guys have to say, 0:28:52.594,0:28:54.509 sharing some of what we have been working on 0:28:54.509,0:29:01.768 and trying to kind of get all - get you guys' opinions, your thoughts, your feedback ahead of time. 0:29:02.568,0:29:07.468 So I'm going to start by just sort of painting this picture of what we're envisioning 0:29:07.468,0:29:10.285 for the future of the collaboration on Amara. 0:29:11.316,0:29:13.924 I think a lot of questions will be answered or at least 0:29:13.924,0:29:16.438 I hope a lot of the questions that were open will be answered. 0:29:16.438,0:29:19.853 We will go ahead and answer some more questions that we had 0:29:19.853,0:29:23.291 that we don't think are addressed by this and then we will do some live Q and A 0:29:23.291,0:29:27.051 for any other things that get missed from this presentation. 0:29:27.928,0:29:30.106 So this first screen, again, is the dashboard. 0:29:30.106,0:29:34.039 The idea is that as soon as a person comes to ‑ 0:29:34.824,0:29:38.516 whether it's a team that's moderated like the way TED is 0:29:38.516,0:29:40.262 or whether it's a more open team 0:29:40.262,0:29:45.993 the way that the Music Captioning team is, or the NewsHour team. 0:29:46.993,0:29:49.128 The idea is that when we are doing teams 0:29:49.128,0:29:53.792 we want people to easily be able to find projects quickly that they can work on. 0:29:54.700,0:30:02.741 If you go to the next slide, which is slide 4, the only thing that has changed is there is a little bit of a help hover. 0:30:02.741,0:30:08.550 The question mark that is near the "my projects" header. 0:30:08.550,0:30:14.056 I mean, the idea here is that we want to start building some of that documentation 0:30:14.056,0:30:17.859 and help into the interface so you don't have to go elsewhere to learn, 0:30:17.859,0:30:20.062 what does it mean to sign off on something 0:30:20.062,0:30:23.586 or what does it mean to create subtitles 0:30:23.586,0:30:25.726 or make a peer review or something like that. 0:30:27.695,0:30:31.436 The three languages needed hover down below just shows 0:30:31.436,0:30:37.400 that this particular video still hasn't had three languages completed on it. 0:30:38.585,0:30:43.863 If we go to the next slide, slide 5, this is where we show 0:30:43.863,0:30:46.058 some of the past work that someone has done. 0:30:46.058,0:30:48.289 This view shows an individual team, 0:30:48.289,0:30:51.948 but you can imagine this being a list of everything 0:30:51.948,0:30:57.553 that someone has worked on in the open Amara as well as everything you've done in different teams 0:30:57.553,0:31:01.464 and just sort of their overall profile of "What have I collaborated on?" 0:31:01.464,0:31:05.534 "What is still going on that other people are working on?" 0:31:05.534,0:31:09.433 "What have I done in the past?" and just giving people a better overview 0:31:09.433,0:31:12.587 of how they have contributed to different projects. 0:31:19.785,0:31:25.006 Let's see. I'm going - are we still ‑ we still have CART. I wanted to double check, 0:31:25.006,0:31:30.397 as I'm just - I've got the ‑ I going to scoot this over to the side. Sorry: a lot of windows here. 0:31:30.397,0:31:35.814 OK. So we're on slide 6 right now. This is another - another team view. 0:31:36.414,0:31:39.967 And this is just the videos' tab showing ‑ 0:31:39.967,0:31:44.846 so basic filters and generally trying to put work 0:31:44.846,0:31:48.315 that matches someone's language abilities and I realize 0:31:48.315,0:31:51.710 that the languages up the top don't necessarily match in this mock‑up. 0:31:51.710,0:31:55.922 But the idea is that where it says "select your languages" 0:31:56.706,0:31:59.924 that's going to be the filter for what is shown below 0:31:59.924,0:32:03.649 when you have the videos' tab filtered by "all of my languages" 0:32:03.649,0:32:07.523 you would see the things that you had selected, a combination of those things. 0:32:08.293,0:32:11.166 So for translation, that's going to be very helpful. 0:32:12.966,0:32:17.656 And - and I think the other important thing is here is that 0:32:17.656,0:32:24.090 the TED paradigm right now is a very - it's an individual person coming in 0:32:24.090,0:32:26.897 and creating subtitles and peer reviewing. 0:32:26.897,0:32:31.063 And we've taken that model and made it something flexible 0:32:31.063,0:32:33.264 so that when TED does things 0:32:33.264,0:32:37.843 they can have that individual person or translator voice 0:32:37.843,0:32:42.563 that they think is very important and that we want to support them doing, 0:32:42.563,0:32:45.839 but then, when there is a team that needs to be more open 0:32:45.839,0:32:51.208 and more sort of collaborative and dynamic, like the Music Captioning, 0:32:51.208,0:32:53.442 like the Captions Requested team, 0:32:53.442,0:32:58.590 we want to do something that still allows people to do peer review 0:32:58.590,0:33:01.493 but has a more flexible approach 0:33:01.493,0:33:05.246 so you can have multiple people kind of collaborating at the same time. 0:33:05.246,0:33:10.537 A little bit more overlap, but still enough structure so that people can say, 0:33:10.537,0:33:17.684 "Well, this captions still - or this video still needs captions [br]so let's make sure we get that done" 0:33:17.684,0:33:23.578 and then once the captions are actually built for the video, then it kind of disappears for the list. 0:33:23.578,0:33:28.458 And other things that need work and need collaboration go up to the top. 0:33:28.471,0:33:34.439 So the idea is to have a flexible model that can work really well with a more - 0:33:34.439,0:33:40.566 a more individualistic sort of approach, as well as a group approach. 0:33:41.597,0:33:50.879 And so if we go to the next slide, slide 7 ‑ this is a new - a mock up of the video page. 0:33:52.217,0:33:59.186 And this, again, is sort of a little bit of an amalgam of different - different things here. 0:33:59.186,0:34:03.020 So you can see, up the top, it says media from TED team. 0:34:03.020,0:34:07.642 So if this was not associated with a team it wouldn't have that button. 0:34:08.335,0:34:15.043 If it weren't a video that were being actively translated or let's say, wasn't part of a team, 0:34:15.043,0:34:19.382 you can see on this side, to the side of the video thumbnail, it says 0:34:19.382,0:34:21.617 subtitles needed in your languages, 0:34:21.617,0:34:25.689 subtitle in French, subtitle in Spanish, apply to team. 0:34:25.689,0:34:27.543 That would be adjusted based on 0:34:28.897,0:34:32.009 you know, whether or not that video was part of a team, 0:34:32.009,0:34:35.701 if it was just open and had been added to Amara as an individual video, 0:34:35.701,0:34:40.760 it may only have the, you know, If there were things in progress, 0:34:40.760,0:34:44.401 how you could help finish those pieces in progress. 0:34:45.217,0:34:49.902 Down below you can see there is a little bit more information around the status of things, 0:34:51.010,0:34:56.130 and again, some things may - may not ever have official review or peer review 0:34:56.130,0:34:59.228 they may just have a couple of different subtitle creators. 0:35:00.336,0:35:04.359 So, it's - we're really working on trying to make the team model 0:35:04.359,0:35:09.840 and the open model work a lot closer together and in concert together. 0:35:10.702,0:35:17.712 If we go to the next slide, which is slide 8, I believe this is just another view ‑ 0:35:17.712,0:35:23.785 the original ‑ the slide 7 had subtitles in the bottom just showing the transcript. 0:35:23.785,0:35:26.582 This next one is the activity and chat window. 0:35:26.582,0:35:33.458 So you can see you have a quick overview of who has done what, who has sort of said what, 0:35:33.458,0:35:36.972 and we're combining all of this stuff into a collaboration view 0:35:36.972,0:35:41.331 so you should see you can quickly see who made different revisions, 0:35:41.331,0:35:43.980 who has left comments, et cetera, et cetera. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If we go to the next slide, slide 9, you will see the revisions tab, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and that's similar to what we have right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We are working on a new diff view 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that will make things easier to compare together 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but that's still under development. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If we go to the next slide, which is slide 10, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is something that I actually wished I had Craig, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who is our product director, here to discuss, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because he is the one who has been driving ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the driving force behind this new interface. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I will do my best to talk about it. Some of these things have been updated. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let's say you weren't on a video that was part of the team, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you might not have that sign‑off button. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Or it may be "add thumbs up" to say these captions or subtitles look great. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But generally this shows a translation in progress. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But the idea is that we are moving from having a different translation interface 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and different timing interface 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and having these steps to a more fluid way of working 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where someone is guided through 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 based on if we think you are going to be translating 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from English to German because that's how you came in, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we will give you the right pieces and right tools from the get go 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with some instructions on how to do it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But we're going to give you the ability to change your timing dynamically. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Slide 7 ‑ that's a closer up‑view of the new layout here. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 One thing that isn't in this mock up but I think is worth mentioning 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is the save button. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We are working to make saving a little more explicit and automatic. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have definitely gotten feedback that save something tricky right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If we go to slide 12 ‑ this is another closer‑up view 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 showing some more timing information in the side bar 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you can see for this particular piece it's showing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are 21 characters at 5.25 characters per second. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 A lot of people who have come from the subtitling and captioning worlds 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have requested this feature. That was slide 12. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm realizing we don't have the new timing interface mock ups. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That is still something that is fairly raw. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Jules just mentioned there is a chat. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Paul is asking about the smallest screen size. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're talking about having the ability to zip up the video 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you could just see the lower third of the video 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and have all of the timing and translation stuff show below 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in order to save space. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This particular lay out will be something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that you can close some of the side bars. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you want to close things down so there is no horizontal scrolling, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can do that. If you're on a screen that's smaller. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But this is still fairly early. It's not built in HTML yet. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We haven't gotten down to the nuts and bolts 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of what exact screen resolutions will be supported, et cetera. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So let's see, before we get too off ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 before we start doing too many question and answers, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I want to clarify that the other piece of this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that I don't have here to share you but I think is going to be really exciting 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is right now we're in a place where you can create captions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and time captions and subtitles and translate. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But if you want to change the timing of the new translated set of subtitles ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I will get to this. We're going to re-enable that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's a question that will come up. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We want to make it so ‑ so right now if you edit the timing on that translation, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then you will no longer have a translation, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are out of the translation interface 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and solely in the creating subtitles interface. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This new system will allow us to compare side by side 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 differently timed translations and subtitles. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you have English to start with, and you translate into Spanish, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then you want to change ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you want to add a couple of lines in the Spanish side 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you want to shorten some of the subtitles, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are actually able to still compare English and Spanish next to one another. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's one of the things that I think 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will be incredibly powerful about this new system. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's one of the things I'm most excited about. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't think it comes across in this presentation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but that is something that we're working towards supporting 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is really important and really adds a lot of flexibility 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to the experience of translation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Slide 13 is just the end cap. That's the basic presentation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And I did have a number of different questions that came up in the forums. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And I'm really sorry that Jules isn't able to join me on this piece, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because this has been me talking and talking and talking. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't want to bore folks and sound like I'm the only person talking here, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but I do think these questions are important to get to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and we have ‑ we really read carefully and ... yes? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm in the Mozilla offices right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And there is there is something ringing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I will answer some of the questions in the forum. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I will mention who asked them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There may be other people who are curious about them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But this is in broad strokes trying to answer 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some of the questions that came up 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that I don't think were addressed in the slide show. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We can come back and address other things in realtime. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There was a question from Booger Bender, Vivian and Claude 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about messaging and outreach. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Some folks were saying it would be great to highlight 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the nonprofit nature of our project, the open source nature of our project. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Some other folks were suggesting we did more outreach to deaf communities. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We think those are both great ideas. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Our focus right now really is getting this new technology going. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will obviously be ‑ we will be doing some ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we will be starting an email newsletter soon, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and that might be a good place to start highlighting this stuff. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We would like to tighten up our website 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because I know there are a lot of loose ends 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it could be better at explaining our mission 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and how the participatory culture foundation works 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and how Amara is totally volunteer driven. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And up our outreach to deaf communities. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In the meantime, if there are any folks here who can help us with this, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we would be more than thrilled to work with you. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Jules will be very active in the forums. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you're not a registered member, please do join. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We would love to discuss how we can better work together 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to highlight some of these things and outreach to different communities 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and keep stepping up those efforts. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Another question was about video management, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which ‑ this is a technical question about the platform. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Someone was asking about the primary URL, being able to switch away. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We may have just done a release that actually allows you to see 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the history of what the primary URL was and to switch that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That used to be more ‑ I think that was just a minor bug or hiccup in our development 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and that we're back online about that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I would like to double check on that before we confirm that one 100 per cent. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 One other technical thing I can confirm 100 per cent, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it's about editing and timing of subtitle bubbles. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 They are asking about ending a caption. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So you press the down arrow to lay down a caption 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the caption is on the screen, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you press the down arrow and next one appears immediately 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where the last one left out. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The secret is the up arrow will cut off the current subtitle being laid down, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you want to do a quick caption that says "music playing" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you would press down when you wanted it to show, press the up arrow 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then it would stop right there. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let me know that that's the right question you were asking. I think it is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 People consistently ask about full screen. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Will the widget, the embeddable tab that goes on the bottom of the video ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the majority of these videos, they may be MP4 videos 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but they are playing through a flash player 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it's taking over the entire experience. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can't do HTML overlay or Java on top of that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're working some of the major video hosts 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to provide syncing that can link subtitles directly into their video player 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or display the subtitles through their video player. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The problem being that you have to be the original uploader 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to enable that syncing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will see if we can figure out a technical work around 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to do some near full screen overlay. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But bear in mind that's just a tough technical problem. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm sorry I don't have a more exciting and uplifting answer for that one. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Another question we had was the original and primary language of video ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we're working to improve the support for changing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what language a video is spoken in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So there is spoken dialogue in a video. That's coming up fairly soon. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There were a couple of features that had existed before 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that people wanted to know about. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Subtitling directly to a video, pasting in a transcript. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Uploading new subtitles over existing subtitles ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 these are things that our current system, we have hit some different hurdles. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're working on getting these features re‑established. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But they will likely be re‑established in the newer system, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the stuff I have just shown in the slides. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I have two more things left and then we can go to open questions. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Jules mentioned there was a question from Jim Tobias 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that I can try to answer really quickly. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Will there be a user-focused interface 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that shows teams and videos I have worked on. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So Jim asked if we're going to be doing a user-focused interface 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that shows ‑ let's say a user dashboard. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You log in and you see the videos you have worked on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and videos you have completed. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm not remembering the number of the slide. I think it was like 3 or 4. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Slide number 5 shows past collaborations in the context of a team. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But we do want to do something similar that goes across teams. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you log in and you have contributed to three teams 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and different videos on three different teams 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 plus you have contributed to 20 various videos that are videos on Amara, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we would like to compile all those things together 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you can see that all in one place. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm seeing another question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Is there any place to add Mozilla to the presently available sign in methods? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't think we have immediate plans to add Mozilla. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm assuming we could potentially do that through MoOff. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm at the Mozilla offices today so I can see if that's a possibility. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It hadn't come up on our radar yet but we can check into it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Another question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Can we fix the original language if we set it wrongly at first? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It happened to me once and I struggled in fixing it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Paula, firstly, I apologize that it's not easier in the current system to do this. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes, we definitely want to make that simpler. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Because it's one of those tricky things where the data model 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that we're working on right now 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is something that we created roughly two years ago. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Of course it's not the ideal thing for where we are at with the project right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's the first thing that we're working on. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're very close to having something out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that will be more flexible in that respect. Thanks for that question. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Feel free to keep asking questions about anything that I have talked about, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 any of the slides, anything that has been missing from the presentation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or anything you would like to hear about. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Another question was about the different timing in the differences ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a question about editing timing in different languages. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's coming back now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Ultimately we're excited about that ability to remain 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in the translation interface even if you have changed the timing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let's see, we have gotten a lot of good suggestions on the product front. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm not sure if I'm saying this name right 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but Diomides had good suggestions for hot keys and functionality 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I have passed on to the development team. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 One suggestion that was put forth 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 was the ability to change the speed in the video play back. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Right now that's difficult with our system 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because we aren't hosting the videos 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it's all done through the HTML and Java script. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There may come a time when we are able to start doing that, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 specially as HTML5 becomes more powerful and that technology grows. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But right now that is going to be a tough one. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But some of the other things ‑ there is a suggestion for a hot key 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to skip to lines that haven't been translated yet. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's a really great suggestion. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will definitely try to get that in there 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and a couple of those other things too. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have another question coming in. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This name is very difficult. I won't be able to say it without butchering it. I 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 t says: Has there been any thought to providing interactive transcripts? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's the kind of thing where you see the video. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes, TED dotcom has an example. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have been working on this. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I wish we could enable link sharing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We need to look into whether we can enable links in the you tube comments. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We do have a sample of that. An interactive transcript player. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You're watching the video and see the transcripts in a text box. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can scroll down it and click on the word 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the video will jump to that word and start playing immediately. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can search through and look for key phrases. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have something like that that is just coming out of the lab. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Maybe in the forum we can post a link to it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Darren, can you get that link if you have it? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Do we have other questions? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm coming to the end of the questions from the forum posts. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There may have been a couple that I missed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so if there is anything on the forum that you left and I didn't get to it, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 please just chime in on the you tube comments. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will continue to keep an eye on the YouTube comments, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 even after we're done with this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so if there is anything we missed we can follow up on it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ... it sounds like we're getting closer and closer to the conclusion of this event. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This has been really exciting. I will check the window. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Here is another question. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The launch date for the new embedder? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We don't have a solid date yet. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There are so many things that are hard to predict in what we're doing right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let me see. I'm getting more information on and that question. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That was Joshua. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The new embedder and whether there is a specific launch date. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's the embedder with the interactive transcripts. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's out in Beta form right now. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will share on the forums how to use that. I 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 t's still experimental so it's not perfect 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but it's not anything that will ever mess up subtitle data or anything like that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's a piece of code that we're comfortable share 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 being folks saying use this in situations that are not mission-critical 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and check it out, see what people think. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So we will get that up in the forum and also try to mention 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 once we do in the YouTube comments. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let's see. Another question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 A very important feature missing, a kind of guideline conflict or warnings 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 like sentences larger than 70 characters, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 smaller than 1.5 seconds, et cetera. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's a really great idea. If I understand it right, we should ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 let's continue that thread in the forums so we can develop that idea further. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Just so that I know and our team knows exactly what you're suggesting here. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But I think the idea sounds good, something that gives some highlights 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if maybe you have things that seem like 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they may be less than optimal for captions or subtitles. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's a really good idea. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Dumovney asks another question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Has there been thought given to providing video description? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have definitely talked about it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It's something that, you know, with this new system that we're building, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 once we're there we will be in a much better position 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to start think being both video description as well as dubbing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or voiceover translation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Both of which we think could be exciting, important pieces 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to the puzzle for greater accessibility 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 both for folks who are blind or have visual impairments 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or people who, let's say, don't read ‑ they speak a different language 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 than the video is in and also don't read their primary language particularly well, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this could be really great for increasing accessibility there as well. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Okay. Let's see. There was another question. Another question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Why was it kept a secret the way the up arrow was a way to cut the subtitle 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 instead of using the down carry key. It wasn't really a secret. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It was a lack of time to update the documentation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have been crazy busy with a lot of different projects 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and hadn't had time to update the instructions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on the interface on the side bar. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We're not trying to keep secrets or leave Easter eggs lying around, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it was just that that didn't get as widely published as it should have. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 My apologies for that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will try to make sure we have a comprehensive list 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of all of the keyboard short cuts. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 All right. We're getting close to the hour. Let's see. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Do we have any other questions before we cap this discussion? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Let's see, just so ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't know if it says how many was the largest number of viewers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but I have seen that we have had between 16 and 17 viewers, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is pretty cool. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Okay. We have one more. From Lavney: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It says on video description adds deaf blind people would benefit 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from seeing video description as text rather than as audio. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Ah, yes, I think I was misunderstanding you. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think sometimes video and audio description terminology 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is confusing for me, my apologies, I may have been mixing that up. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think there are a lot of different things that we can do f 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from the perspective of accessibility, that we should ‑ we would like to ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think a lot of this just needs to be unpacked for us. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We put a lot of effort and time into trying to figure out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what the best approach is to accomplish ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to keep a simple interface that is something that is approachable 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by people who are both young and old 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in order to start creating subtitles and start creating captions and translate things. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We also want to make sure that we're being as inclusive as possible 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with the interfaces, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with the things that people are creating through the interfaces. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And to be honest, it's a big, big job to understand 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what the universe of accessibility means. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This is a really good opportunity to ask you guys to help us learn more 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and understand better how we can support 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 all of these different uses and use cases. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think a lot of this conversation that we're having right now, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 these sorts of seeds, could really blossom on the forum. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm hoping we can continue these conversations so we can learn more 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about what folks are thinking might be the most effective sort of approach 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to some of these issues. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I totally appreciate everyone's time and effort and thought 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on helping us walk through these. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Two more and then we will cap it after that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So Claude asks: Could you talk about the future chat feature, please? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think I will need more clarification on that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Maybe we could just take care of that in the forum as well. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And discuss that one in the comments or the forum. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Okay, Alex asks: We Chinese need double subtitling display on team. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Could you implement that? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Double means showing both English and Chinese subs 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in two lines simultaneously. Alex Mo. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's another thing that there are ‑ that is another piece 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 outside of the accessibility thing that I was just talking about. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 This is something that I think we should definitely discuss 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so that we can better understand how something like this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 might work in the system, given all of the different ‑ 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the challenges that we're facing of keeping the software usable and simple 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from the perspective of it has to work on as many languages as possible, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how can we accomplish what you're asking about with Amara. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think we can definitely find a way to do it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But I don't have an answer off the top of my head. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Partly because I'm not someone who speaks English and Chinese 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so figuring out exactly how ‑ what the expectation is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and how something like that would work, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we definitely just need to get a little bit more information 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and I think we can and should be able to figure out something. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I will answer one last question: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Seelan: are there plans to auto-sync subs to videos on YouTube. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We have created many of these 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but people can't up load them on and to YouTube sourced. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm not sure I totally understand that one. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Right now we're sync one direction from Amara. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We do grab subtitles and captions from YouTube 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and we're just now starting to sync them back to YouTube, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 as long as you're the creator of the video on YouTube you can do that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think we're on the right track there. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If I'm not understanding that correctly we should also 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 carry that discussion forward in the forum as well. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 (pause) 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 okay. Sorry, I'm just seeing people typing things 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and want to make sure I have got this all down correctly. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 All right. I think we should make sure to just continue these conversations 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and I know there are a couple at the end that I semi‑dodged 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but I want to ensure we are able to address those 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and have conversations about how we can expand on those different pieces 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and make sure that we're serving as many different communities 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 as best as we possibly can. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think that the new editor, the new collaboration model, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 all of the stuff that we have shared and that we're working on right now, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think that will be a major step in that direction. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And that there will still be obviously a lot of room for improvement 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and room to grow. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I think there are probably a lot of things that we didn't discuss today 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that have to do with how do we ‑ how do we best represent 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what volunteers have done, how do we show, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is a set of captions done primarily by this user but also this user helped. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's a big question and thing we have started to think about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but that is so huge that we want to make sure 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we have the communities' voice and support and heart in 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 as we move forward on it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That's another big thing and maybe that's a topic for the next town hall meeting. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you so much to everyone who participated. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I see that our viewership has dropped off a little bit. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you to Michael for bringing CART into the ‑ into the picture. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you to the CART operator for actually providing CART, totally amazing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Jules and Darren, thank you for helping DJ the comments 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and get this whole thing off the ground. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And of course thanks to everyone who is here right now 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and who wasn't able to make it, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who has been helping us to make Amara such an amazing project and tool. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And everything that it has become. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, thank you, all. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We will do this again ‑ I'm not sure exactly when. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But let's talk about it in the forums and discuss 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when we do want to do it again and what we thought worked 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and what we thought didn't and how we can improve on this process. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So thank you, all. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 (town hall ends)