…I don’t know… I don’t know what you’re searching No no, that’s true really because… nobody who… who has to tell us that yes. Go? Yes, go. Well, the project of airport arrived in the region, it was annonced in the journal, people discovered it by reading the journal one morning that they wanted build an airport here and it was in 70s… or 69 perhaps even and so that project has around 40 years now, it was an exagerated project then, they imaginated that air transport would become like… there will be… everybody would move everytime by plane, by helicopter, that one would link very near cities by the air, and… they always had a lot of arguments to explain it was a good idea. And so, since 40 years, this region is threatened by this project At the time, the firsts to mobilize themselves against this project it was peasants, and they created an association that is called ADECA Their main aim was to maintain an agricultural activity on the zone, because the State propaganda was it was deserted area and that one can do what one wants. They, they said "well, no, here there is life, there are working peasants" And so, it was mainly this and at the time of the 70s, in the region, it is movements of working peasants and in fact it is peasants who have an awareness of the class conflict. They didn’t think… they didn’t struggle just only for their own tool to work But they really saw there were links with the working class, that their situation wasn’t so different of that and they endorse the struggles there were in the factories. And so, that, it was a quite strong movement at the time and another… At the time also, what was quite strong were anti-nuclear struggles, and in the region there were many victories about that, where many projects of nuclear plants aborded and were abandonned after quite difficult struggles. What happened after was they declared this area as a Area of deffered building It’s the ZAD We, we still use this word today but as a Zone To Defend (ZAD) or for them area to destroy But at the time, it enabled them, each time, to be first on the list to buy a land. As soon as something was sold They had priority and the Department bought the land And they did that during many years. Mainly in the 70s, people didn’t believe anymore in the farming, they said "it’s all over, we can no more live from farming". And so, since 70s, there was that purchase of the land but, also, the project, they didn’t speak about more concretely. It wasn’t anymore… neither the institutions, neither the medias spoke about. And during a long time, they continued to buy the land whithout it was really clear the project will happen. Because they didn’t ended this project… Because they have… It was probably also because of the economical crisis in the 70s, that made up it was a bit… it gives the impression they abandonned the project they didn’t speak anymore, and in fact during all that time they bought the land and so, with the time, they became owner of the a big part of the area I don’t remember was is… the totality of… Who is there into? It’s the department, the region who bought during all that time and what happened then memories gradually forgot people were no more vigilant about that story because nobody spoke about that And it is only in 2001 that the project appeared again. Government said it will build an airport here. And at this time was created an citizen opposition where there is an association called ACIPA ACIPA? Yep. The Association of Citizens Impacted by the Project of Airport I think, I’m not very sure. They worked about a lot of different schemes, a lot of juridical claims to ask the abrogation of the project. They also worked a lot with the elected people to make up there are more and more political people opposed to the project, and to do that gradually it arrived in the government Also, a lot, they made big information campaigns I think they were quite active during a moment also about… to these and these actions but always with a symbolic spirit at the time. And during drillings, the first land studies happened, the drillings, it began there were more outsiders who joined the movement But perhaps, what I forget to say, is that during the 2000s, at the government level, at the level of institutions, they made a bill about a declaration of public utility to say that the airport was recognized as useful for the population and from this moment they opened the possibility of performing the project. It was in 2008. And in 2009 they began land studies And from that moment some people came from outside and simultaneously local people perceived the need of more people there because during the first resistances against the drills they react by bringing more policemen and soldiers on the ground to enable to achieve the studies And since there was like that something… the number of present opponents was important there was a sort of appeal to exterior to join the struggle Because before… they said citizens endorsed the projects before even to know if the project was… achievable, that we could do it? Yep. Before making the studies, they said the citizens… They acted as if they asked the citizens to say the project was ok for them but in fact, that enquiry say nothing Even if everybody is against, it’s them who decide if it is of public utility. And at the time, this step if really important because it’s like… it’s the concrete realization of the project and during that time associations thought they could give their opinions say "us, we think this project is not interessant and we don’t want give our land for that" and they came toward institutions that say that but they were not heared whereas for instance in other struggles against nuclear plants for instance in Plogoff in the peak of the Brittany from the start inhabitants were opposed to this project and from the start they said "we will not leave the enquiry happen" but here it was accepted citizens associations said themselves they could give their opinion about that, and they realized after that, even if they said they were against the project, it didn’t changed anything and they were not heared. And, why is it important to be here and what would you to tell to the people to mobilize, then to come? I, I don’t know if… During a long time we called to occupy here and it was in order to be more people to squatter here on this area and presently we are quite… in a sort of dilemna because to oppose to the project we need to be more people and at the same time, to be a bit organized, and efficient, we need more dense links between us. And so I don’t know if I want to say, you see, you ask me if… I don’t know if I want to say "Really really come here to fight with us" I, I think… I’m happy to know there are people who fight in other places also and this, for me, it’s really worth to know and perhaps to create a link but I don’t want at any cost to say people to come here to join us and… we, we arrived after the first drillings, in fact during the first drillings, the associations began to understand it needs more people here and they called, they asked to some people to organized a camp, it was an Action Climate Camp and after this Action Climate Camp we launched an appeal to occupy And from this time there was this… we supported during a long time this call to occupy. Today people begin to know this site and they come by themselves try to support and sometimes to imply or inhabit and join the way we are organized here. But the Occupy movement became stronger since two years Today we are in the time of evinctions and, I, I’ve the sensation that if there are people who want participate in this struggle with us they are welcome, but I don’t want to do propaganda like "really, people have to come here, it’s the more important thing in the world" No, it’s not the more important. Capitalism and State, we have to step down it anywhere in the world we have to fight against State and capitalism anywhere in the world no more here than anywhere else. Could you tell about the nature here like… About the Nature… like… you protect… In fact, what is special here is that this project was announced 40 years ago, and during these 40 years they bought land and so they prohibit building of new locations, new houses, because each time they bought they bought also houses the one they didn’t like, they destroyed them and so, this space, in some way, this project… this space had been protected because… there is no urbanization here, people could’t access the ground, didn’t have access to houses here, because the department bought it systematically and so although it is a region of intensive farming there are a lot of meadows for milk cows… different… but anyhow it is big farms it’s intensive farming and into that there are some pieces of land which are abandonned which are forgotten in fact and there is bocage. And there are places where there is also we are in very damp soils there are uncultivable land, but… it’s some paradox they wanted to build an urbanization project and they still want realise this enormous urbanization project but in fact, since it is during since 40 years, it last 40 years that the land are more quiet than elsewhere And how many inhabitants are here? I don’t know the answer for this question In the… In neighbourhoods? Yes. It depends because there are different villages and we are between three villages And how many people should leave their houses? Leave their houses? I don’t know exactly… About? I would say 80, but… It’s a lot of people because they empty the area gradually There are not a lot of people who have to leave But anyhow they are people Anyhow they are people… Yes… who have their lives here Would you like to [??]? Or not, I don’t know. I don’t know… that the struggle continue, well. Merci (thank you).