0:00:00.000,0:00:03.000 - Another thing that we were stolen, it is the currency. 0:00:03.000,0:00:06.000 So, I'm going to read an extremely known sentence for you: 0:00:06.000,0:00:09.000 "Give me control of a nation's currency and I laugh 0:00:09.000,0:00:12.000 at whom makes its laws." This is Rothschild who said that. 0:00:12.000,0:00:15.000 - So I read it that a lot, I haven't sourced it; 0:00:15.000,0:00:18.000 I didn't go to verify. I would have to find the book of Rothschild. 0:00:19.000,0:00:21.000 It would be good to find the source to be sure that he said it. 0:00:22.000,0:00:24.000 It needs to be verified because on the web, there is all the same... 0:00:25.000,0:00:28.000 There is still a lot of... lies lying around. 0:00:28.000,0:00:31.000 Therefore we have to watch the quotations. I... I take it back because ... 0:00:32.000,0:00:36.000 I find it plausible but at the same time, I'm suspicious, I pay attention. 0:00:37.000,0:00:40.000 I would like... I would like to source it. We really need to find... 0:00:40.000,0:00:42.000 - It is in "Secrets of the Federal Reserve." 0:00:43.000,0:00:45.000 - 0K, but that's Mullins who says... 0:00:45.000,0:00:49.000 Be aware that Mullins was anti-Semitic, in any event that he has become anti-Semitic. 0:00:49.000,0:00:52.000 I think, I don't know if he was when he wrote his book. 0:00:53.000,0:00:55.000 But the fact that he is anti-Semitic or he became 0:00:56.000,0:00:59.000 has to drive us to caution with regard to the quotations which he makes of Rothschild. 0:01:00.000,0:01:04.000 I... I don't say that it is false, I say that it's necessary to distrust, it's necessary to cross-check. 0:01:04.000,0:01:06.000 Needs to look... But it is enough to find the books of Rothschild 0:01:07.000,0:01:09.000 or reports in newspapers of what he said ... 0:01:09.000,0:01:11.000 Sources must be found, what, that's it. 0:01:11.000,0:01:13.000 - Thus my question was: "how the drawing lots 0:01:13.000,0:01:16.000 can allow us to recover our monetary independence? 0:01:19.000,0:01:22.000 - Great question. The... Money creation... 0:01:23.000,0:01:25.000 The right of public money creation, 0:01:26.000,0:01:29.000 The monopoly of monetary creation by the public power 0:01:30.000,0:01:35.000 is the only way to go to recover 0:01:35.000,0:01:38.000 our political sovereignty. We must first recover monetary sovereignty 0:01:39.000,0:01:43.000 so that... we may have a chance to recover the real political sovereignty. 0:01:43.000,0:01:46.000 One who holds the currency, holds political power, that's for sure; 0:01:47.000,0:01:51.000 May Rothschild have said it or not, anyway, that's for sure. 0:01:53.000,0:01:58.000 And in my opinion... the universal suffrage, that is... 0:02:02.000,0:02:04.000 Renunciation, our renunciation, the renunciation of the people 0:02:04.000,0:02:06.000 to exert itself political power 0:02:07.000,0:02:09.000 and the abandonment of political power to the rich 0:02:10.000,0:02:12.000 through the financing of election campaigns. 0:02:13.000,0:02:15.000 This representative government 0:02:17.000,0:02:23.000 makes it possible for bankers total surrender by the States 0:02:23.000,0:02:25.000 of money creation, which is what happened everywhere 0:02:26.000,0:02:30.000 and their absolute control over 100% of political power. 0:02:31.000,0:02:33.000 And therefore it is the representative government 0:02:33.000,0:02:35.000 which makes this whole shit possible. 0:02:36.000,0:02:42.000 It is... For me, cause of the causes, it is this iniquitous constitution. 0:02:45.000,0:02:48.000 This constitution that is found everywhere, all the constitutions of the world, 0:02:48.000,0:02:51.000 except that of Athens, are built like that, on representative government. 0:02:52.000,0:02:58.000 And... in all these constitutions, there are all the procedures... 0:03:01.000,0:03:08.000 and absence of control of elected representatives, the legal rules 0:03:08.000,0:03:13.000 that protect the notables... There's a whole network of iniquitous rules 0:03:14.000,0:03:19.000 that are in the constitutions ... and we can't understand, I think ... 0:03:20.000,0:03:23.000 because it is in all countries and at all times, so there is still 0:03:23.000,0:03:26.000 a... a common core, there is still a common force. 0:03:28.000,0:03:30.000 And it's not a conspiracy. These people have not come to an agreement, 0:03:30.000,0:03:32.000 they have not spoken, it's not that at all. 0:03:33.000,0:03:36.000 What makes that all these Constitutions are so bad 0:03:37.000,0:03:41.000 for the people and always so good for "people's representatives", 0:03:41.000,0:03:44.000 in quotation marks, which are actually ... the servants of the rich, the political servants, 0:03:44.000,0:03:45.000 the political puppets of the rich. 0:03:46.000,0:03:48.000 How is it that all the constitutions of the world 0:03:48.000,0:03:51.000 come to plutocratic oligarchies? 0:03:52.000,0:03:57.000 This is obviously not a conspiracy. It would be stupid to even think about, that's not it. 0:04:01.000,0:04:04.000 The common cause and the cause of causes... The primary cause, 0:04:04.000,0:04:06.000 making all this shit possible... 0:04:10.000,0:04:12.000 is... Who writes the Constitutions? 0:04:14.000,0:04:16.000 It is the poor quality of the process of writing the constitution 0:04:16.000,0:04:19.000 And this poor quality, it comes from the indifference of the people, 0:04:20.000,0:04:22.000 the ignorance of the people, the laziness of the people, 0:04:23.000,0:04:28.000 from... the negligence of the people. This is because we don't give a damn about the Constitution 0:04:28.000,0:04:32.000 and the process of writing the constitution, it is because instead... 0:04:35.000,0:04:38.000 Instead of writing the constitution ourselves or paying attention to what... 0:04:38.000,0:04:40.000 those who write the Constitution to be disinterested, 0:04:40.000,0:04:42.000 don't write rules for themselves. 0:04:42.000,0:04:45.000 Instead of doing that, we let the Constitutions be written by... elected officials, 0:04:46.000,0:04:49.000 or by the ministers, or by the men of parties. 0:04:53.000,0:04:55.000 If people are writing rules for themselves, 0:04:56.000,0:04:58.000 they don't write the rules for the public interest. 0:04:59.000,0:05:01.000 And that's the rule, that's the explanation, I think. 0:05:02.000,0:05:05.000 And formulating a problem is half the solution. 0:05:07.000,0:05:11.000 Having understood this, I think, basically, between us, despite the... 0:05:13.000,0:05:17.000 ... the threats that the elected representatives are certainly going to wear against us 0:05:17.000,0:05:20.000 and the rich which make them elected. They are going to hate us, 0:05:21.000,0:05:24.000 they will speak ill of us, they will, they will try to discredit us, 0:05:25.000,0:05:28.000 they are going to try to make us dirty, to say that we are I don't know which... 0:05:29.000,0:05:31.000 ... submarine of I do not know who. 0:05:33.000,0:05:36.000 In spite of these slanders, we will have between us... 0:05:40.000,0:05:42.000 ... we do that the main part... 0:05:43.000,0:05:46.000 .. we understand and we do understand other people that the main part 0:05:47.000,0:05:49.000 takes place at the time of the process of writing the constitution. 0:05:50.000,0:05:53.000 Because our best protection against abuse of power, it is the Constitution, 0:05:54.000,0:05:57.000 provided... provided that those who write it 0:05:59.000,0:06:02.000 do not write the rules for themselves and they are not judges and judged. 0:06:03.000,0:06:05.000 So it must not be men of parties. 0:06:08.000,0:06:12.000 So here, so I think, a disinterested assembly 0:06:13.000,0:06:15.000 it can not be done except by drawing lots. 0:06:16.000,0:06:18.000 If it is made by election... 0:06:19.000,0:06:21.000 ... who will nominate candidates? 0:06:22.000,0:06:23.000 Parties? 0:06:24.000,0:06:27.000 So they will impose their candidates? 0:06:28.000,0:06:31.000 Well, if our parliamentarians find themselves writing the constitution, 0:06:32.000,0:06:34.000 you can well imagine that the Constitution that they are going to write, 0:06:34.000,0:06:36.000 it will be the same as today, we shall not go out of it. 0:06:37.000,0:06:41.000 Therefore, an elected constituent assembly won't fix any problem. 0:06:42.000,0:06:46.000 I repeat, my deep, well-argued conviction... 0:06:49.000,0:06:52.000 I ask only to be denied, if I'm wrong, let it be shown to me. 0:06:54.000,0:06:56.000 And no one succeeded for now. Yet they try, huh. 0:06:57.000,0:06:59.000 They argue a lot, huh. It's very interesting, 0:06:59.000,0:07:02.000 controversy is fascinating; from leftists, rightists, 0:07:02.000,0:07:05.000 many people try to show that my idea of drawing lots is not... 0:07:06.000,0:07:09.000 ... is irrelevant, but they're wrong, here, their arguments are not strong. 0:07:11.000,0:07:14.000 I think that as long as people... 0:07:17.000,0:07:20.000 ... judge and judged, at the same time judge and judged, will write the constitution, 0:07:22.000,0:07:24.000 we shall not go out from this muck-up. 0:07:25.000,0:07:29.000 This is because politicians write the rules for themselves 0:07:30.000,0:07:32.000 that they become the prey of the richest, thus bankers, 0:07:32.000,0:07:35.000 and that it comes after a few dozen, few hundred years, 0:07:36.000,0:07:40.000 after 200 years, we arrive at the strict government of banks, we are there, now. 0:07:41.000,0:07:43.000 If you don't see this, you are blind, anyway. 0:07:44.000,0:07:47.000 And thus the drawing lots appear to be the only solution. Then, that frightens people. 0:07:48.000,0:07:51.000 We say ourselves: "drawing lots of a constituent Assembly? You will... 0:07:53.000,0:07:55.000 ... you will draw lots of incompetent people." 0:07:57.000,0:07:59.000 We frighten people with that. 0:07:59.000,0:08:02.000 And I think that's hogwash. 0:08:03.000,0:08:06.000 I think that there is no need to be competent to write a constitution. 0:08:07.000,0:08:13.000 I think anyone in two weeks of discussions, thoughts, exchanges, 0:08:14.000,0:08:16.000 will understand that... 0:08:17.000,0:08:20.000 ... a constitution serves to protect everyone against the abuse of power. 0:08:21.000,0:08:23.000 That, I think anyone can understand, 0:08:23.000,0:08:25.000 no need to be a genius to understand this: 0:08:26.000,0:08:31.000 that to protect against abuse of power, we must control the powers. 0:08:32.000,0:08:35.000 And not every five years, the powers must be controlled every day. 0:08:36.000,0:08:40.000 that popular initiative must be a real popular independent initiative. 0:08:40.000,0:08:43.000 That there must be initiatives of popular referendums 0:08:43.000,0:08:45.000 which can short-circuit institutions. 0:08:46.000,0:08:50.000 Any normally intelligent individual; it is sure that somebody... 0:08:51.000,0:08:55.000 ... a simple-minded or a patient, OK, no, but I speak about normal people. 0:08:56.000,0:08:58.000 So the multitude. Anyone normally constituted 0:08:58.000,0:09:02.000 is able to understand that... to weaken the powers... 0:09:02.000,0:09:04.000 ... that to protect us from powers, it is necessary to weaken them, 0:09:04.000,0:09:06.000 that to weaken them, it is necessary to divide them. 0:09:06.000,0:09:08.000 Anyone can understand the division of powers. 0:09:08.000,0:09:10.000 All those who think about the problem fall on the division of powers, 0:09:10.000,0:09:13.000 on accountability, on the non multiple office-holding, 0:09:13.000,0:09:17.000 the non multiple office-holding. Anyone who falls on it naturally. 0:09:17.000,0:09:23.000 No need to be competent for that. And the constituent assembly randomly chosen 0:09:23.000,0:09:27.000 have highlighted these... I don't know. It should perhaps be ten... ten principles. 0:09:28.000,0:09:30.000 Maybe even not, five would be enough. 0:09:31.000,0:09:33.000 After that, it can let write the rules by lawyers 0:09:34.000,0:09:38.000 so that it is well-written. And then verify that this is really what was meant. 0:09:38.000,0:09:41.000 And if we are a hundred to think about it, 0:09:42.000,0:09:45.000 if lawyers are trying to deceive us, there are two or three 0:09:45.000,0:09:49.000 who are going to notice the trickery, and then who will call us ... alert us. 0:09:51.000,0:09:55.000 So I think either way it will not be perfect, but it will be much better 0:09:56.000,0:10:00.000 than a constituent assembly made up of people who cheat, 0:10:01.000,0:10:03.000 because they write for themselves, because they have a personal interest 0:10:03.000,0:10:05.000 against the public interest; in this occurrence. 0:10:06.000,0:10:10.000 I don't say that... I don't say that the elected representatives always have -it is in no way what I say- 0:10:10.000,0:10:13.000 I'm not saying that politicians always have an interest contrary to the public interest. 0:10:14.000,0:10:17.000 It is not at all what I say. I say that elected officials and party men 0:10:17.000,0:10:21.000 have, at the time of the process of writing the constitution, that is to say at the time to write the rules 0:10:21.000,0:10:24.000 which are going to bother them when they are going to exercise the power. 0:10:25.000,0:10:28.000 Huh, at that time, in the process of writing the constitution, they have a personal interest 0:10:29.000,0:10:32.000 contrary to the public interest. And therefore, like in any trial 0:10:32.000,0:10:34.000 where we reject a judge... 0:10:35.000,0:10:38.000 ... who is of the family of the victim or the family of the defendant, 0:10:39.000,0:10:43.000 this judge, we dismizz. We say: "No, but you cannot judge, you're judge and judged, 0:10:43.000,0:10:47.000 you... we dismiss you. We will put in another. And it doesn't mean you are dishonest: 0:10:47.000,0:10:49.000 it means just for this case then, for this particular work, 0:10:50.000,0:10:54.000 you can not do. "Well, elected officials and party members, governments, 0:10:54.000,0:10:57.000 all professional politicians should be put away, 0:10:58.000,0:11:01.000 not because they are corrupt or perverse, not at all, 0:11:01.000,0:11:03.000 but just because it is not them who have to write the constitution. 0:11:04.000,0:11:07.000 It is not up to them to write the text they should fear. 0:11:09.000,0:11:13.000 And so that's why the draw is... I think the only procedure 0:11:13.000,0:11:15.000 that will allow us to recover money creation. 0:11:16.000,0:11:18.000 This is because... We shall get back money creation 0:11:18.000,0:11:21.000 only if we get back the process of writing the constitution, that is... 0:11:22.000,0:11:26.000 ... the control of the text which is the only one which can protect us... durably. 0:11:30.000,0:11:32.000 And I see no other way than to randomly select the Constituent Assembly. 0:11:33.000,0:11:37.000 So, to reassure people, I can, we can imagine to amend the draw... 0:11:40.000,0:11:41.000 ... to... 0:11:43.000,0:11:45.000 ... how to say, to... 0:11:50.000,0:11:54.000 ... to fit out it; to fit out the draw so that it less frightens us. 0:11:55.000,0:11:59.000 One could, for example, organize a free election before the draw, 0:12:00.000,0:12:03.000 an election without candidate: each of us could... 0:12:05.000,0:12:07.000 ... appoint one, two, three, the number should be considered, 0:12:08.000,0:12:10.000 one, two, three people he considers to be honest, 0:12:10.000,0:12:12.000 people who would do well for the constitution, 0:12:12.000,0:12:14.000 people who would do the job well. 0:12:16.000,0:12:19.000 People, I would say, I would try to choose people... 0:12:20.000,0:12:22.000 ... who are able to listen to others without becoming angry, 0:12:23.000,0:12:25.000 who can change their mind, 0:12:26.000,0:12:28.000 people who read a little. 0:12:28.000,0:12:31.000 I think it would be better if we took people 0:12:31.000,0:12:35.000 who can still read; to read mementos, summaries, 0:12:36.000,0:12:38.000 the explanations that will be given to them about the constituent assembly, but hey, 0:12:39.000,0:12:41.000 others may consider that it is not useful. 0:12:41.000,0:12:44.000 Thus everyone is going to decide on these criteria. I... It seems to me that it would be good 0:12:44.000,0:12:47.000 there is in the constituent assembly people who are able 0:12:47.000,0:12:50.000 to reconcile points of view, who pacify an assembly, 0:12:50.000,0:12:53.000 who act as ambassadors, matchmakers, people who... 0:12:55.000,0:12:57.000 ... who reconcile those who have just quarrelled. 0:12:57.000,0:13:01.000 So it would be nice to have people like that in the constituent assembly. 0:13:03.000,0:13:06.000 There might be people who have already thought about the constitution. 0:13:08.000,0:13:12.000 Not necessarily, not necessarily in my opinion, so then everyone is going to appoint freely, 0:13:13.000,0:13:17.000 to elect, without parties, non-professional politicians. 0:13:18.000,0:13:21.000 There should be a prohibition. We can elect whoever we want but... 0:13:23.000,0:13:27.000 It could be prohibited, I think we should ban political professionals. 0:13:28.000,0:13:31.000 And then... Well, but that can be discussed that, perhaps there may be 0:13:31.000,0:13:33.000 few professional politicians who hang in there, eh, 0:13:33.000,0:13:35.000 in the constituent assembly. 0:13:36.000,0:13:39.000 I think it's dangerous because the professional politicians speak well. 0:13:39.000,0:13:41.000 This is... They are speakers, good speakers 0:13:41.000,0:13:45.000 and a good speaker can deceive an assembly, eh. 0:13:47.000,0:13:49.000 Well, there it is easy to say "the political professionals 0:13:49.000,0:13:52.000 are not allowed in the ... in the Constituent Assembly." 0:13:52.000,0:13:54.000 You can elect who you want, but not pros, whatever. 0:13:55.000,0:13:58.000 And then perhaps we could also put away the... 0:14:00.000,0:14:03.000 ... all television speakers, all well-known people ... 0:14:04.000,0:14:09.000 ... to avoid the bias of media: people who don't know who to appoint, 0:14:10.000,0:14:13.000 and then nominate someone who they see every day on TV. 0:14:14.000,0:14:17.000 Well, you can ... It is not required to eliminate. Well, need to think about it. 0:14:17.000,0:14:20.000 Do we put a filter or not on these free elections? 0:14:20.000,0:14:22.000 Needs to be thought about. I have no ... I have no fixed ideas on this. 0:14:23.000,0:14:26.000 But in any case we would designate, in this case, this proposal 0:14:27.000,0:14:29.000 we would appoint... 0:14:30.000,0:14:33.000 ... people who are not candidates and that we find brave; 0:14:34.000,0:14:37.000 that we find nice... freely. We appoint them freely. 0:14:38.000,0:14:40.640 And it is among these people that we would draw lots. 0:14:43.000,0:14:44.480 That... 0:14:44.510,0:14:47.000 And then there are people who will be nominated several times and who will... 0:14:47.000,0:14:49.410 ... who are recognized around them as having these qualities, 0:14:50.000,0:14:52.630 who will be nominated several times, freely, without being ... 0:14:52.630,0:14:55.000 They are not even candidates, so they can refuse. 0:14:55.000,0:14:57.000 Maybe they will refuse, too bad. 0:14:57.000,0:15:00.000 But we don't need that all agree: we will have so many people ... 0:15:00.000,0:15:02.000 Well, they refuse, too bad; we shall take others. 0:15:03.000,0:15:06.720 There are plenty of good people on ... There are plenty of good people on Earth, plenty, plenty, plenty. 0:15:07.000,0:15:09.000 So, if there are some who do not want, well it is not required. 0:15:09.000,0:15:12.000 We shall do without them. 0:15:12.118,0:15:17.318 We could as well, I had the idea recently in a conference whilst discussing with people, 0:15:17.392,0:15:21.522 We could as well do as they do in the... 0:15:21.522,0:15:28.532 ... in the martial art competitions : we do a lot of rounds. 0:15:28.606,0:15:32.076 We win, we win, we loose, we loose, we win, we win , we loose. 0:15:32.146,0:15:34.357 And each time, there are points, 0:15:34.395,0:15:36.925 we win points, not points, points, not points. 0:15:36.942,0:15:40.943 And what will do the rules, there are rule, I guess it's in judo, I don't know, 0:15:40.943,0:15:43.433 or in karate, I don't remember, which.... 0:15:44.083,0:15:48.173 ... we take off the best performance and the worst.... 0:15:48.608,0:15:51.948 ... because we consider they are accidents. 0:15:52.568,0:15:55.428 We take off the worst, but we also take off the best. 0:15:55.428,0:15:57.750 And we keep the... the other performances. 0:15:58.103,0:16:02.611 And we could do that, we could... The ones who are... 0:16:02.611,0:16:06.401 very often freely designated, the ones that are often elected: 0:16:06.469,0:16:10.320 we could say it is a media effect: they, they should be the people who are always in TV 0:16:10.320,0:16:13.367 or that we saw a lot on the internet or... 0:16:13.367,0:16:16.191 These ones, we won't allow them in the Constituent. 0:16:16.191,0:16:19.487 It seems like they are professionals... We can't admit them in the Constituent. 0:16:19.487,0:16:22.168 And there are the ones that are never nominated, once or twice... 0:16:22.168,0:16:25.398 I don't know, we could take the fifth which have been nominated very often, 0:16:25.412,0:16:29.832 we don't take them, and the fifth which have not been nominated, or very few times, 0:16:29.832,0:16:32.933 we won't take them either. And we would take the third fifth in the middle, 0:16:32.933,0:16:36.533 which have been quite enough, but not too much, fairly enough... 0:16:36.561,0:16:39.121 ... designated freely by the others. 0:16:39.130,0:16:42.964 And that's there, in the middle of these people that we would draw lots. 0:16:42.964,0:16:45.502 This would give you an uninteressed assembly 0:16:45.502,0:16:48.503 as you have never seen on Hearth... never. 0:16:48.503,0:16:53.803 This process... I am formal, in the actual state of my reflexion anyway, 0:16:53.803,0:16:58.164 I am sure it would give an assembly which would write 0:16:58.164,0:17:02.433 the first real democracy.... Athenes was a real democraty; 0:17:02.433,0:17:07.083 but furthermore, the one we would make, us, today, 0:17:07.102,0:17:12.334 would be... At the opposite of what was doing Athenes, it would integrate women, 0:17:12.334,0:17:15.444 there wouldn't be slaves, it would surely give rights to the foreigners; 0:17:15.444,0:17:19.150 not necessarily all the rights but some political rights to the foreigners, 0:17:19.168,0:17:22.527 and finally there is a lot.... 0:17:22.527,0:17:25.209 .... of wrong or bad sides in the athenian democracy 0:17:25.209,0:17:29.399 which were part of the time, and that would be anachronical to misjudge today... 0:17:29.477,0:17:33.977 ... which are not necessary, so some sides of it we wouldn't reproduce. 0:17:34.151,0:17:38.303 And we could do today a real modern democracy, but a democracy: 0:17:38.303,0:17:42.043 I don't speak of the representative government which is a treason. 0:17:42.043,0:17:43.858 I speak about a real democracy 0:17:43.858,0:17:45.617 with local assemblies in every city. 0:17:45.617,0:17:47.437 In 36 000 cities, 36 000 local assemblies 0:17:47.437,0:17:49.527 in which people would decide themselves for their businesses. 0:17:49.637,0:17:54.161 And rises to national level, only the Assembly of federation of the cities.... 0:17:54.161,0:17:57.377 There could be two or three steps, you know; 0:17:57.377,0:17:59.877 we need to think of the number of steps which would be necessary 0:17:59.901,0:18:03.971 to reach the national level. But which wouldn't delegate, the citizen would not delegate 0:18:03.972,0:18:06.152 only the mini, mini, minimum. Only. 0:18:06.152,0:18:08.325 We wouldn't let others than ourselves vote 0:18:08.325,0:18:12.305 only what can not be voted by us. 0:18:12.305,0:18:15.786 But, for school, we could decide by ourselves, 0:18:15.786,0:18:18.976 Maybe to a part of the school we could considerate that it would be nice if 0:18:19.003,0:18:21.763 there was a common program which would be decided by a federal assembly... 0:18:21.786,0:18:25.890 It needs to be discussed. It needs to be discussed what we give to the federal assembly. 0:18:25.890,0:18:27.510 But it's not, it's not impossible at all; it is completely... 0:18:27.569,0:18:30.369 It is not utopian. We need to stop letting others 0:18:30.372,0:18:32.412 write the constitution for us. 0:18:32.472,0:18:35.432 - So, I would have two questions after that. 0:18:35.465,0:18:38.648 First, they are two questions which I'm wondering personally, it is : 0:18:38.648,0:18:41.459 Does the people want to get their freedom back? That's the first question 0:18:41.459,0:18:42.859 - This is not sure at all. 0:18:42.859,0:18:47.177 - And the second question is : the fact that we are in a society 0:18:47.177,0:18:49.625 where... It is very materialist, there is a lot of TV, 0:18:49.625,0:18:52.029 we are very much brainwashed. 0:18:52.029,0:18:56.347 Our desires wouldn't be, in the end... to have a bigger TV, 0:18:56.347,0:19:01.097 to have ... more things, more beautiful, bigger? 0:19:01.349,0:19:05.509 Is it not too late in fact? This is the question. 0:19:05.574,0:19:08.808 - Well, I am fighting because I believe it is not too late. 0:19:08.808,0:19:11.748 But maybe I am wrong. It is true that it perhaps is too late, I know that. 0:19:11.783,0:19:15.363 There is a very beautiful quote from Rousseau which I don't remember by heart, but.... 0:19:15.434,0:19:19.251 A sentence where he says that.... 0:19:19.251,0:19:21.322 Once someone has been a slave, he doesn't want to get out of this state, 0:19:21.322,0:19:23.352 he starts liking his state of slavery and... 0:19:23.359,0:19:27.391 ... he doesn't want anymore, he doesn't even imagine what would be freedom. 0:19:27.971,0:19:31.391 When I am upset, I think this is true. 0:19:32.394,0:19:35.044 And then, when I am happy, I think not but... 0:19:35.096,0:19:39.269 Look at what happened, in 2005, you open the windows to humans... 0:19:39.269,0:19:42.108 They are all closed for now. 0:19:42.108,0:19:45.258 You can vote left, right, you can protest, rant and rave, 0:19:45.258,0:19:49.353 get in the street by the million, it doesn't change nothing, nothing ever. 0:19:49.353,0:19:54.353 So it is... this is completely demotivating. I think, this is what shuts down people. 0:19:54.353,0:19:58.591 It is the fact that the institutions are closed. 0:19:58.591,0:20:02.262 Open institutions would give people the wish of doing politics, 0:20:02.262,0:20:05.822 because when you do politics , it allows to change the world. It allows... 0:20:05.888,0:20:08.913 It would show that all these people who looks extinguish 0:20:08.913,0:20:13.828 are in fact ambers smoldering. And you remember in 2005, they said : 0:20:13.828,0:20:18.510 "Don't go bother people with the european Constitution. 0:20:18.510,0:20:21.815 The Constitution, a dusty and boring text, 0:20:21.815,0:20:24.885 everybody will be annoyed, they will not... care about it." 0:20:24.939,0:20:28.466 Look, we were hundreds of thousand peeling article by article. 0:20:28.466,0:20:31.476 Because there was going to be a referendum; they had open the windows. 0:20:31.488,0:20:35.368 And we knew that we could change something: we could say "yes", we could say "no". 0:20:35.368,0:20:40.029 And we believes that if we said "no", it would change. 0:20:40.029,0:20:43.089 Yes, we got raped a few years later 0:20:43.092,0:20:47.502 by our own "representative" between brackets, absolute traitors, traitors. 0:20:47.702,0:20:51.892 Traitors who enforced by parliamentary means 0:20:51.892,0:20:54.738 everything that had been refused by referendum. This is.... 0:20:54.738,0:20:58.843 One day, they should pay the bill. These people will have to be judged. 0:20:58.843,0:21:02.638 If we don't arrive too late : they will maybe be dead. It will be that late that... 0:21:02.638,0:21:05.548 But it's really treason, this. 0:21:05.614,0:21:09.314 To enforce by parliamentary means what we refused by referendum, 0:21:09.320,0:21:12.390 when it was exactly the same texte, strictly. 0:21:12.419,0:21:16.459 It can be proved article by article. 0:21:16.459,0:21:20.249 Article by article. And the activists who have done the job. A real hard job : 0:21:20.300,0:21:24.560 they took every aticle of the Lisbon treaty, everyone, one by one, 0:21:24.591,0:21:27.360 There were hundreds and hundreds, you know. 0:21:27.360,0:21:31.718 And they found them in the treaty of 2005. They are the same, the same, 0:21:31.718,0:21:36.295 the same words, in another order, loose, but everything is there. 0:21:36.295,0:21:41.043 It is scientifically proved, conclusively. 0:21:41.043,0:21:44.623 Treason, treason what happened in 2008 too. 0:21:44.632,0:21:48.409 Included the socialists, you know. The socialists by abstaining.... 0:21:48.409,0:21:52.464 It's really chafouins, huh. It really. They really are hypocrits, huh. 0:21:52.464,0:21:55.443 Hypocritical bastard, huh. Because they.... 0:21:55.443,0:21:58.143 They participated actively to the treason when they did this. 0:21:58.182,0:22:04.411 Without assuming their betrayal. It is unforgivable. It is unforgivable. 0:22:04.411,0:22:07.190 And us, we are so nice, we forget. 0:22:07.190,0:22:13.490 So... You are right : it is true that we forget, that we are nice 0:22:13.490,0:22:17.574 and that, in the end, we are very materialists; we are happy with our destiny.... 0:22:17.574,0:22:21.264 ... as long as we have bread and games, huh; it's an old story... 0:22:23.818,0:22:27.806 I hope not. So, what is possible anyway, is that... 0:22:27.806,0:22:31.976 ... the rich are so greedy... 0:22:32.213,0:22:36.293 and they are insatiable. You need to read Thorstein Veblen, here, 0:22:36.618,0:22:39.888 who studies ostentatious consumption, 0:22:39.938,0:22:44.098 the manners of rich people are childish manners, like in the school yard. 0:22:44.492,0:22:48.391 Who has the biggest one, you know. 0:22:48.391,0:22:51.989 It is neverending. The one with the biggest car, 0:22:51.989,0:22:56.739 the one with the biggest toy, the more... And it is neverending, it is ostentatious rivalry. 0:22:57.401,0:23:02.213 When we are adult, we thing : "it's a childish behavious." 0:23:02.213,0:23:04.682 But it is exactly the rich's behavious; 0:23:04.682,0:23:06.679 Riche people work like that, like kids. 0:23:06.679,0:23:09.429 And Velben show it very well. 0:23:09.813,0:23:14.343 So... They are insatiable: they will never stop robbing us, stealing us. 0:23:14.655,0:23:19.305 However they have, they have moutains of gold. It is never enough. 0:23:19.653,0:23:23.933 There is an african saying : "More evil there is, more Evil wants" 0:23:24.430,0:23:28.430 We shouldn't wait for them to stop wanting : it's neverending. 0:23:29.342,0:23:32.452 What we need, is to put a limit. 0:23:32.983,0:23:36.151 We grease only the squeaky axle. 0:23:36.151,0:23:39.251 As we say nothing, they go, thoroughly, thoroughly. 0:23:39.251,0:23:42.845 They destroy everything there, they break everything. Everything our parents try to build. 0:23:42.845,0:23:45.885 All the program of the National Council of the Resistance : the pensions, the social security, 0:23:45.907,0:23:49.929 the public services, everything... We are going to loose it all if we don't step accross. 0:23:49.929,0:23:52.779 Everything we are doing at the moment is... 0:23:52.826,0:23:56.013 Bad protests where we... Well I am in the protests but... 0:23:56.013,0:24:00.103 We laugh, we are... We sing, we are not scary. 0:24:00.519,0:24:04.571 We are a few; everytime the same person, it is always the same 0:24:04.571,0:24:07.713 who goes in the street. It's always the same banners. 0:24:07.713,0:24:10.093 We are pathetic, we are so nice. 0:24:12.212,0:24:14.742 - So in fact, how... - We cannot scare them, huh. 0:24:15.016,0:24:19.071 - How can we concretely succeed to... to what you suggest? 0:24:19.071,0:24:22.319 - Well, my idea... And I think we can play it. 0:24:22.319,0:24:24.999 But, I think if you are right when you say : 0:24:26.031,0:24:29.387 " perhaps the people does not want to be free" 0:24:29.387,0:24:31.657 If you are right, here, my idea will not work 0:24:32.835,0:24:37.145 But if you are wrong, and if the people, in fact, starts to be so mistreated 0:24:37.242,0:24:41.502 that he aspires to be free, he will look out for a solution... 0:24:41.711,0:24:45.251 I, what I see in my conferences is... people eyes shining, 0:24:45.251,0:24:47.281 there is something new, here. 0:24:47.661,0:24:52.031 Understanding what is democracy.... There are... 0:24:52.365,0:24:56.741 ... hundreds of books on democracy. really, there are lots, 0:24:56.741,0:24:59.802 lots of books on democracy and always on the wrong one pratically. 0:24:59.802,0:25:03.223 Except few books on Athenes, we speak about democracy 0:25:03.223,0:25:06.943 talking about representative government. It is the same in the media. 0:25:06.971,0:25:09.141 In the medias, when we talk about democracy, it is never... 0:25:09.238,0:25:12.408 We never speak about democracy; we talk about representative government. 0:25:12.431,0:25:13.241 So.... 0:25:13.348,0:25:16.052 Here, when I talk in my conferences of democracy 0:25:16.052,0:25:18.592 and I talk about somehting really... new. 0:25:18.620,0:25:20.809 Well... new, very old in fact but.... 0:25:20.809,0:25:25.239 ... original... never, we never describe democracy like that. 0:25:25.607,0:25:29.401 There is Rancière, some philosophes... There is Castoriadis. 0:25:29.401,0:25:33.581 Important people, specialists but who have no.... 0:25:34.479,0:25:38.569 no mediatic space: we don't hear them in TV... 0:25:38.620,0:25:42.650 Most of the people talk about democracy.... 0:25:43.365,0:25:46.259 and do not open any window, they let us in the trap 0:25:46.259,0:25:49.842 of the representative government. And me, in my conferences, 0:25:49.842,0:25:55.141 I talk about real democracy... I say we need to make a strike of the word democracy, 0:25:55.141,0:25:58.045 to stop calling "democracy" a representative government, 0:25:58.045,0:26:00.545 we have to call it "representative government", that's all. 0:26:00.593,0:26:02.823 and that we.... 0:26:02.927,0:26:06.839 So, it's my idea, it's a suggestion, but you know, I will not do anything alone. 0:26:06.839,0:26:11.024 I need others to be with me. It's necessary for the thing to be understood, 0:26:11.024,0:26:13.464 It needs the idea to be simple and strong so that it can circulate to everyone. 0:26:13.498,0:26:16.708 It needs us to get viral; we should have a viral activity, 0:26:16.758,0:26:19.958 that each one of us, we contaminate one another at first. 0:26:20.060,0:26:24.212 Despite the slander of the elected, despite all the bad things they'll tell us, the elected, 0:26:24.212,0:26:26.872 the richs and all the fascists of all kinds. 0:26:27.220,0:26:31.470 Fascists, even the fascists that call them self antifascists"... 0:26:31.623,0:26:35.793 Well, despite them all, we should pass the word on. 0:26:37.671,0:26:42.161 To establish a social justice. 0:26:42.800,0:26:47.300 To reestablish, to establish a proper prosperity because we will have taken back the control 0:26:47.880,0:26:52.390 of monetary creation and of rights' production. 0:26:52.450,0:26:56.573 Which means we will take back control over the Constitution... 0:26:56.573,0:27:00.213 ... by this simple idea that it isn't to the men in power 0:27:00.213,0:27:03.693 to write the rules and so everything that count, what count most... 0:27:03.928,0:27:06.958 and we stop dividing on : "For me, it's about ecology", 0:27:06.975,0:27:09.951 "for me, it is about justice in the companies", "for me, it is about unemployment", "for me it is...." 0:27:09.951,0:27:13.584 We stop to have each one our pet subject. We start thinking "the cause of all causes 0:27:13.584,0:27:16.164 of all that mess, these social injustices, is... 0:27:16.740,0:27:20.610 It is necessary that they stop to right themselves the Constitution. 0:27:20.610,0:27:25.160 It is necessary that the constituant Assembly would be disinteressed. So Assembly should be drawn" 0:27:25.240,0:27:28.660 Drawn from non candidate or drawn simply; 0:27:28.660,0:27:32.660 but drawn. If we manage to concentrate on this... 0:27:33.108,0:27:37.308 ... and to become viral. It means that... Well, it's understood, 0:27:37.308,0:27:41.308 but it is not enough to understand, we need to explain it to 0:27:41.312,0:27:46.652 5, 10, 20 people... more... We do what we can to explain to others. 0:27:48.215,0:27:52.787 Because it is easy to understand. It is a simple and strong idea. 0:27:52.787,0:27:57.257 If you look for the problem at the base, you look for the evil roots, 0:27:57.257,0:28:01.257 You take the evil at its roots, you look for the cause of all causes and you end up on... 0:28:02.177,0:28:05.803 "But who wrote these iniquitious rules?" 0:28:05.803,0:28:08.907 And you end up on the Constitution and the constituant process, 0:28:08.907,0:28:11.487 so who wrote, who participate to the constituant Assembly. 0:28:11.487,0:28:15.557 And then you realise : "But here it is ! From here comes all the shit!" 0:28:16.138,0:28:20.437 So, problem identified, problem formulated, problem solved, at least half of it. 0:28:20.437,0:28:24.857 Now we just need to set up the solution for the cause of all causes. 0:28:25.557,0:28:28.637 And if we do that between us, if we pass on the word... 0:28:29.412,0:28:33.612 How long does it take for us to be millions? 0:28:34.833,0:28:39.573 If anyone of us appoint , manage to convince two people. 0:28:39.833,0:28:43.247 Not only convince them that the cause of causes 0:28:43.247,0:28:45.837 is the bad quality of the constituant process 0:28:46.119,0:28:50.079 and the fact that the politics are the ones writing the Constitution... 0:28:50.085,0:28:52.845 So, in fact, the solution is... A constituant Assembly 0:28:52.903,0:28:56.030 that is not composed by politics : which would be disinteressed. 0:28:56.030,0:28:59.700 It needs to be anybody who is part of the Constituant. 0:28:59.790,0:29:04.030 Not only he understood, but he managed to pass on the virus, 0:29:04.102,0:29:08.512 which means, he has understood that he needed to start explaining to others. 0:29:08.512,0:29:12.887 We need to explain two things : 1) Where is the cause of causes 0:29:12.887,0:29:17.490 therefore, the solution; and 2) That the solution is to pass it on. 0:29:17.490,0:29:21.024 There are two things, and if you don't reproduce you die : the virus, the idea dies. 0:29:21.024,0:29:26.024 If we manage to pass the message like this, with these two points: 1) The simple idea 0:29:26.225,0:29:30.575 and 2) It is our role to reproduce without staying passive. 0:29:30.735,0:29:33.398 Which means we need to manage to convince. 0:29:33.398,0:29:36.348 Then, at the beginning, there will be resistancies, people will not... 0:29:36.348,0:29:39.108 They won't believe us, there will be objections. 0:29:39.158,0:29:42.228 Well, I'll go back to look the conferences, the discussions, 0:29:42.285,0:29:44.755 and then, after some discussions, I'll get better at convincing. 0:29:44.784,0:29:46.484 I become a good virus. 0:29:46.484,0:29:49.904 A nice virus, a virus of social justice. 0:29:49.904,0:29:52.064 A virus is not only bad, you know. 0:29:52.365,0:29:56.365 Me, I imagine a positive virus. A virus.... 0:29:56.365,0:29:59.124 of concord... 0:29:59.124,0:30:01.204 ... of social justice. 0:30:01.258,0:30:06.148 and it looks like that to me... So, if everyone of us manages to convince two, 0:30:06.148,0:30:10.971 well... it depends how long it takes. If... two, they take one week 0:30:10.971,0:30:15.181 to convince two, then they stop... It is not going to be very quick. 0:30:15.260,0:30:21.880 But if anyone... convince three or four people every week. 0:30:21.880,0:30:25.607 So, in one month, he convinced a dozen of people. 0:30:26.052,0:30:30.142 or ten. If every month he manages to convince ten people, 0:30:30.689,0:30:34.839 And ten people which become themselves viruses, 0:30:34.973,0:30:38.683 It can go very very fast. We will quickly be millions. It's an idea... 0:30:38.754,0:30:41.924 I think it can change everything in a pacific way. 0:30:42.125,0:30:46.745 They won't let it do face to face, but if we are millions... 0:30:46.880,0:30:50.321 ... wanting one simple thing without dividing.... 0:30:50.321,0:30:53.925 without treating us mutually, one and an another of fascists, 0:30:53.925,0:30:57.645 focusing on the essential, forgetting the quarrels about details. 0:30:57.673,0:31:00.933 We will see then, when real democracy is put in place... 0:31:00.977,0:31:03.507 We will see the details : what will we do about abortion? 0:31:03.585,0:31:06.565 What will we do about nuclear? What about GMO? 0:31:06.701,0:31:10.011 What we do about... We will see it all point by point in our popular assembly. 0:31:10.102,0:31:14.204 With a real universal suffrage... with referendums if we want to. 0:31:14.204,0:31:17.723 But the time to reestablish democracy, we need to focus on the essential : 0:31:17.723,0:31:20.429 honnest constituant process, disinterested. 0:31:20.429,0:31:24.629 If we manage to do that... If we are millions to want it, it will happen. 0:31:24.985,0:31:28.573 It would be enough to get out in the street, by millions, it will happen. 0:31:28.573,0:31:30.428 They won't shoot in... They won't shoot... 0:31:30.428,0:31:34.438 They won't shoot on millions of people. 0:31:36.239,0:31:38.717 It seems doable to me that thing, and it's original, and it can work.