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Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.30,0:00:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I would like to start the second session, \Nthe afternoon session.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.34,0:00:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have two sessions in the afternoon.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.72,0:00:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, we have the second session
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.29,0:00:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the theme of \N"Ownership and Public Participation".
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.00,0:00:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we would like to have a keynote \Nfor 20 minutes by Mr. Stefan Gsänger
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.33,0:00:24.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is the Secretary General of \Nthe World Wind Energy Association.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.100,0:00:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, we are going to have \Na panel discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.02,0:00:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with panelists like the previous session.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.03,0:00:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I would like to introduce Stefan briefly.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.04,0:00:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stefan is the Secretary General of the World Wind Energy Association
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.71,0:00:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has been playing the leader role of the development
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.77,0:00:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of wind power penetration in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.56,0:00:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,World Wind Energy Association holds \Nthe wind power conference every year
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.93,0:01:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is an important session \Nor a working group
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.97,0:01:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is to increase the renewable energy
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.42,0:01:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democratically in the region from now on
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.37,0:01:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing experiences and achievements
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.84,0:01:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the communities around the world
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.26,0:01:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the theme of "Community Power".
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.42,0:01:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has been committing this group \Nwhere they have discussed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.29,0:01:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to achieve it and what \Nconcept we should have.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.95,0:01:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please welcome the speaker, \NMr. Stephan Gsänger.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.49,0:22:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we are going to start the panel discussion.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.90,0:22:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we would like to have the panelists on stage.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.67,0:22:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We enter the panel discussion \Nof the second session.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.39,0:22:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am the moderator, Noriaki Yamashita, \NSenior Research Fellow
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.63,0:22:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Institute for Sustainable \NEnergy Policies.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.06,0:23:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am also enrolled doctoral program at \Nthe Free University of Berlin in Berlin
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.08,0:23:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although I live in Japan.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.58,0:23:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Stefan and I might speak in German
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.57,0:23:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I will do my best \Nso that it might not happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.30,0:23:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The theme of the second session is \N"Ownership and Public Participation".
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.27,0:23:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have asked him to speak as a keynote
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.65,0:23:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the community power movement \Nas seen from wind power.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.47,0:23:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to have a discussion focused \Non "Ownership and Public Participation"
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.13,0:23:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the people who have involved \Nvarious projects
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.50,0:23:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in various positions and in various \Nareas not limited to wind power.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.15,0:23:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we have audience of about 85 \Nat this conference today.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.58,0:23:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are broadcasting this conference \Non Ustream.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.01,0:23:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have anyone who wants to look \Nat today's conference later,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.57,0:23:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please inform him or her \Nto check the home page of
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.62,0:23:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ISEP (Institute for \NSustainable Energy Policies).
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.19,0:24:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The video of this conference \Nwill be archived
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.80,0:24:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the past Ustream casts.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.13,0:24:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go into the discussion \Nin the second session.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.89,0:24:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I want each panelist \Nto do self-introduction
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.77,0:24:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning what he or she involves \Nin each region first.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.68,0:24:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have panelists from \Nvarious regions in Japan.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.19,0:24:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Hara of the Ohisama Shimpo Energy \Nis from Nagano Prefecture,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.80,0:24:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Professor Maruyama \Nwho came from Nagoya today
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.21,0:24:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved in the project \Nin Aomori Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.34,0:24:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also have a Mayor, Mr. Hosaka \Nof Setagaya-ku in Tokyo.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.55,0:24:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have Mis Tamiya \Nfrom Akita Prefecture
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.55,0:24:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is a planner and has launched \Na group called Kasane-Tsumugu.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.01,0:24:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we would like to have panelists \Nto introduce themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.30,0:24:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they have been doing. \NAnd after that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.46,0:24:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to discuss from the viewpoint \Nof "Ownership and Public Participation".
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.08,0:24:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, we would like to have Mr. Hara.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.06,0:24:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello everyone.\NThank you for the introduction.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.69,0:25:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Hara of \NOhisama Shimpo Energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.66,0:25:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am from Iida City \Nin Nagano Prefecture,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.62,0:25:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the south of the Shinshu.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.36,0:25:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The living area of Iida City is populated \Nby more than 105,000 people
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.13,0:25:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and located around 500 meters above sea level.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.55,0:25:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an area of approximately \N170,000 people
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.71,0:25:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of 1920 square kilometers
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.34,0:25:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including neighboring towns and villages
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.19,0:25:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we have 170,000 people approximately
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.87,0:25:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same area as Osaka Prefecture \Nor Kagawa Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.85,0:25:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fiscal 2004, in effect we might have \Nentered the fiscal year 2005,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.00,0:25:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we started the business in \Nthe mechanism called citizen investment
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.11,0:25:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raising funds and investing it to \Nprojects to reduce CO2 emissions
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.09,0:25:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reduce to the investors \Nthe profit produced from the projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.40,0:26:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have used the mechanism of \Nthe citizen windmill and citizen investment
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.33,0:26:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were launched \Nby Mr. Suzuki in Hokkaido
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.47,0:26:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has paneled in the previous \Nsession in the morning
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.68,0:26:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have raised five funds so far \Nby using these knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.62,0:26:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been 840 million yen approximately.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.60,0:26:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have projects mainly of solar power
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.37,0:26:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including energy conservation \Nand biomass so far
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.28,0:26:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have installed solar power
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.37,0:26:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of close to 1,440 kW at 210 sites \Nexcluding ones under construction now.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.33,0:26:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The projects have been distributed \Nin various areas to reduce CO2 emissions
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.14,0:26:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to distribute the profit to \Nthe people who have invested.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.28,0:26:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been promoting citizen investors \Nto come on the places
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.71,0:26:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than simply investing
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.21,0:27:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the business is working together \Nwith local stakeholders and citizens
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.18,0:27:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are doing business such that \Nlocal government is involved properly.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.47,0:27:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.\NNext, Professor Maruyama, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.02,0:27:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Maruyama.\NThank you for inviting me today.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.68,0:27:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As profession I have been involved \Nin research and teaching of sociology
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.70,0:27:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Graduate School \Nof Nagoya University.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.74,0:27:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My theme of research is \Nhow to have renewable energy
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.40,0:27:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rooted better in the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.45,0:27:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beside the research as profession \NI aim to increase
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.71,0:27:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best practices of it \Nproperly in Japan.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.18,0:27:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, this is as important \Nas the research as profession.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.72,0:28:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not primarily because of this, \NI am the board chairman of an NPO
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.21,0:28:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which have built a so-called citizen windmill \Nin Aomori Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.20,0:28:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I am a director of \Npower producer formally
Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.57,0:28:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I am a sole social scientist in the world, I guess,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.39,0:28:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is at the same time a director \Nof power producer.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.75,0:28:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just mentioned the best practices \Nand good practices, im my opinion,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.72,0:28:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to satisfy a lot of and \Na wider variety of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.25,0:28:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually wind power is not \Na terribly profitable business.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.82,0:28:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course it is possible \Nto earn a stable course.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.25,0:28:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is not yet incredibly lucrative.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.60,0:29:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we focus on how to \Nproduce value-added
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.75,0:29:06.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,besides a direct economic effect.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.81,0:29:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our case of wind power in Aomori,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.43,0:29:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roughly half of the investment is local \Npublic investment in terms of prefecture-level.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.32,0:29:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The remaining 50% is from large cities \Nsuch as Tokyo or Osaka.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.80,0:29:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that sense it is half and half and \Nmakes connections well among people.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.52,0:29:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only to return simply \Nthe money of investment,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.01,0:29:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have activities focused on \Nan effort to create a ripple effect
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.22,0:29:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,triggered by the windmill such as \Nthe sale of agricultural products
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.68,0:29:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the region where windmill is located.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.71,0:30:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much.\NNext, Mayor Hosaka please.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.21,0:30:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to explain it \Nusing some of the powerpoint.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.87,0:30:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am Nobuto Hosaka, \NMayor of Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.84,0:30:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could you show the fifth page.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.29,0:30:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I became the mayor in April (2011)
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.87,0:30:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the accident of Fukushima \NDaiichi Nuclear Power Station
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.20,0:30:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Tokyo Electric Power Company
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.62,0:30:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when power saving has been \Nsaid to be crucial.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.96,0:30:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see it? \NIt is something strange a little.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.13,0:30:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sorry, I will fix it.\NYes, I continue disregarding it.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.68,0:30:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been said that \Nthe power saving is crucial
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.80,0:30:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and power outage might \Nhappen at any time.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.88,0:30:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted to know the actual usage \Nat a moment in Setagaya-ku
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.27,0:31:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the amount of electricity \NTEOCO was able to supply.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.88,0:31:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just tried to show people \Nso-called electricity forecast
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.19,0:31:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which TEPCO is still doing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.11,0:31:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and can be seen on a computer screen \Nor on a smartphone .
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.87,0:31:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We asked TEPCO to inform us \Nhow much electricity
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.08,0:31:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were actually using in Setagaya-ku \Nin the electricity forecast.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.02,0:31:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did various interactions \Nand they finally decided to give us
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.77,0:31:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the total data of 23 wards of Tokyo and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.75,0:31:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we put it up to the home page \Nof Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.99,0:31:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This means that, oh, this is it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.67,0:31:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you show the next page?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.15,0:31:55.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the data sent from TEPCO \Nto Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.50,0:31:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is August 31 last year \Nat the height of summer.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.62,0:32:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was pretty hot though.\NThis is the peak of 13.36 million kW
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.57,0:32:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reduction target is the green line \Nand the blue line here is the actual usage.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.16,0:32:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was clealy found in July already \Nthat there was much room
Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.51,0:32:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even with the data of a fairly \Nwider district of 23 wards.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.72,0:32:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Known these above, \NSetagaya-ku began considering
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.14,0:32:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the introduction of PPS. \NAnd page 9, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.62,0:32:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made proposals to Mr. Edano, \Nthe Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.99,0:32:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We decided to change \Nthe electricity company to PPS fromTEPCO
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.52,0:33:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sum of the electricity \Nwas 670 million yen.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.59,0:33:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were reactions from the residents
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.53,0:33:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying they wanted to do the same thing at home \Nand wondered how they could do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.27,0:33:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I proposed to Ministar Edano that there must be \Nthe reform of the so-called system
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.22,0:33:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that generated electricity is distributed to homes
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.19,0:33:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the transmission line.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.67,0:33:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also proposed him to expand \Nretail market liberalization
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.81,0:33:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on which debate must continue \Nat this very moment
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.78,0:33:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to assist the affected areas \Nby means of renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.04,0:33:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Setagaya-ku has interchange with Minami-Sanriku Town \Nand Minami-Soma City, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.36,0:33:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was determined to seek such institutional reform. \NThese are activities so far.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.15,0:33:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something like that at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.57,0:33:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, Mayor Hosaka.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.96,0:33:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the last panelist, we would like Mis Tamiya \Nto introduce herself
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.29,0:34:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to tell us about activities these days.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:01.03,0:34:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Mayumi Tamiya and \NI came from Akita Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.38,0:34:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for inviting me.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.44,0:34:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, I would like to introduce the situation \Nregarding renewable energy in Akita Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.05,0:34:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I tried to arrange all prefectures in the country
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.41,0:34:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in abundance or potential of renewable energy,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.25,0:34:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found potential of renewable energy of Akita Prefecture
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.64,0:34:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so big that it was the second place excluding Hokkaido.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.14,0:34:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly it includes wind because very strong wind blows
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.15,0:34:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the coast of Akita Prefecture, and geothermal.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.23,0:34:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also contains biomass of abundant forest resources
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.25,0:34:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other biomass such as rice straw \Nand rice husk because
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.23,0:34:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agriculture is also very popular \Nin Akita Prefecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.90,0:34:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although winter is long actually, \Nthe sun shines strongly in summer.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.95,0:35:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So solar PV has a very big potential. It is said at the prefectural level
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.62,0:35:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they consider to send electricity generated by renewables
Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.13,0:35:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly to Tokyo in inter-regional cooperation.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.59,0:35:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will talk about the situation of the region's population.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.39,0:35:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I've looked at look at the numbers at hand,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.99,0:35:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the population of Akita Prefecture was 1.1 million in 2008.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.24,0:35:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost 10,000 people are declining every year.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.76,0:35:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Increasing decline of population has continued,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.54,0:35:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as one municipality disappears every year.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.20,0:35:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rapid decline of population \Nand aging are progressing.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.12,0:35:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, There are some people who are very worried
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.92,0:35:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the survival of the village.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.22,0:35:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I returned to Akita two years ago after working in Tokyo
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.37,0:35:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the environment-related sector.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.87,0:35:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the big reason that young people \Nare not able to return is the fact that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.85,0:35:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there aren't sufficient jobs for young people \Neven if they want to do so.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.10,0:36:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I would like to talk about \Nmy energy-related business activities.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.85,0:36:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to connect the regional industries \Nwith consumers,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.96,0:36:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are trying to make proposals \Nwith original products of new design
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.84,0:36:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using regional resources \Nsuch as food or forestry resources
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.11,0:36:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in cooperation with designers and creators.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.03,0:36:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sake industry in Tohoku area as a whole
Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.19,0:36:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was severely impacted \Nafter the earthquake of March 11 last year.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.75,0:36:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were a lot of 'kuramoto', sake breweries,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.67,0:36:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were threatened to be out of business
Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.35,0:36:47.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the influence of the accident of Fukushima nuclear plant.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.89,0:36:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In these circumstances, there was an idea
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.99,0:36:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among the people especially among kuramoto \Nin Akita Prefecture
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.92,0:36:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to organize an event to talk about sake
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.59,0:37:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to hear from kuramoto.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.53,0:37:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some kuramoto wanted to talk \Nabount energy as well as sake.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.69,0:37:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was happy to coordinate \Nto ask Mr. Tetsunari Iida of the ISEP
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.95,0:37:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to appear at the talk event.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.88,0:37:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think many people are quite interested \Nboth in sake and in such things
Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.78,0:37:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like survival of sake and renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.65,0:37:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By combining them together, \Nwe managed to create a place
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.19,0:37:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where sake lovers could think about \Nrenewable energy and also
Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.33,0:37:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people interested in renewable energy \Ncould drink sake for the first time.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.17,0:37:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might have contributed to it a bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.25,0:37:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this kind of relationships \Nwe started the seminar last month
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.11,0:37:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mainly in Akita City in Akita Prefecture to learn
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.17,0:37:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to expand the regional ownership \Nof renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.91,0:37:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has just begun. It really has.\NThis is the situation right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.90,0:38:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.99,0:38:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to have some comments \Nfrom Mr. Gsänger
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.00,0:38:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the four stories up to now.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.67,0:38:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He mentioned earlier that there were \Nalso various types of citizen windmills.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.05,0:38:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could you comment on this as well?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.59,0:40:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go further into discussion.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.56,0:40:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was mentioned in the first session today \Nthat it was a matter of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.67,0:40:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The theme of the first session was \N"Vision and Realization".
Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.10,0:40:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to think something and to achieve it, we have to think
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.68,0:41:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who and how to do it and how to involve people.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.82,0:41:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The theme of this session is \N"Ownership and Public Participation".
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.46,0:41:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think however that there is \Nconsiderable overlap between the two.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.57,0:41:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is still quite worthwhile to hear \Nabout each and every case.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.18,0:41:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to do so \Neven if we have to repeat.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.47,0:41:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to present these three \Nas the themes of today.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.02,0:41:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, difficulty and significance \Nof public participation
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.26,0:41:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has been discussed \Nmuch in the first session.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.02,0:41:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is prone to talk a beautiful story \Nwhen we mention public participation however,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.55,0:41:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to share their experience in \Nvarious processes until it will be achieved.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.61,0:41:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secondly, the importance of \Nhuman resources and networks
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.02,0:41:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were also discussed \Nin the first session.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.18,0:41:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you show the power point?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.94,0:41:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk with a lot of people at various \Nmeetings in different places like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.87,0:41:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In every successful case there was \Nalways the person at the very front,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.69,0:41:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the one who is standing in front \Nof all the rest in this figure
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.19,0:42:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is dedicating 100% of time and \Npassion of life of his or her own.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.63,0:42:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there must be the ones
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.87,0:42:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have been helping him or her \Nfrom behind
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.00,0:42:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as bankers, for example, \Nwho are not in front.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.58,0:42:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People of municipality does not come in front either
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.93,0:42:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and does not do with 100% \Nbut support from behind.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.45,0:42:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there are others further behind \Nwho help him or her with 10%,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.88,0:42:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the ones who have \Ndifferent professions
Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.04,0:42:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the domestic workers
Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.60,0:42:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who help him or her in their spare time.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.77,0:42:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And much further behind, come also the ones
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.27,0:42:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are using 1% of \Ntheir own time and money.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.12,0:42:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the connection like this \Nis also very important.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.57,0:42:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully I want to hear about \Nnot only the ones in front
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.28,0:42:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also the human resources \Nbehind the scene,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.92,0:42:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like such a person was \Nunexpectedly helpful.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.68,0:42:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thirdly, it can not be done \Nonly by the strength of will.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.54,0:42:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be probably done with \Nthe strength of will in most cases
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.99,0:42:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a certain extent, \Nbut not in some cases.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.46,0:43:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we need mechanisms to help people \Nwho are willing to make it done.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.68,0:43:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what can be done by the government \Nor how can the government help?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.45,0:43:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to hear on these three points.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.18,0:43:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please turn off the powerpoint.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.27,0:43:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, the significance and \Nthe difficulty of public participation.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.08,0:43:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are different perceptions \Ntowards public participation.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.01,0:43:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So tell us your thought \Nabout public participation
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.90,0:43:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,followed by the significance \Nand the difficulty.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.38,0:43:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to hear about raw experience \Nas much as possible
Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.82,0:43:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is much appreciated if it is \Na lively and compelling story.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.20,0:43:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you inform us about it briefly \Nin about a couple of minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.35,0:43:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A difficult question, though, \Nbut as mentioned earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.88,0:43:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a hundred people think in a hundred \Ndifferent way, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.77,0:43:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is absolutely so.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.21,0:43:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though we share the same goal \Nto spread the renewable energy,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.98,0:44:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think each and every person \Nsurely thinks differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.96,0:44:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think renewable energy is also \Nan important regional public goods.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.52,0:44:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tons of people in the region, \Nlocal citizens,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.56,0:44:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not only aware of it. \NIt is really not.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.09,0:44:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I happen to be the one in front,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.76,0:44:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I think I have to do by doing this
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.42,0:44:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to have them know it and notice
Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.39,0:44:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it is to exploit the important \Nresources of their own.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.90,0:44:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I have to do that but \Nthey are not quite aware of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.79,0:44:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I have found difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.08,0:44:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professor Maruyama, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.52,0:45:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of the difficulties \Nof public participation,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.12,0:45:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is terribly time-consuming.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.35,0:45:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to form a consensus, \Nor before that,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.20,0:45:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what people are thinking \Nfor example basically?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.06,0:45:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a time-consuming process \Nto know it itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.27,0:45:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is a terribly difficult point.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.10,0:45:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course people are \Nnot always favorable to us
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.77,0:45:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are difficulties \Nin that sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.98,0:45:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Difficulty and significance \Nare two sides of coin.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.83,0:45:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can not to tell what people think important \Nwithout asking them directly.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.63,0:45:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my previous case, our aim \Nis to help the promotion
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.64,0:45:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the area with a windmill.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.24,0:45:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may not know what they really want
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.40,0:46:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without listening to them \Nover a decent time and effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.64,0:46:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally I found that they are \Nhappy with windmills
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.39,0:46:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only if it does help their agriculture
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.95,0:46:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though windmills \Nmean nothing to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.79,0:46:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would not have known that \Nwithout doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.70,0:46:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the network \Nmentioned earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.04,0:46:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the part of 50%, in other words,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.66,0:46:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mechanisms that support \Noperations such as
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.78,0:46:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the finance, the maintenance \Nor the development,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.40,0:46:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they are very important. \NThose who are supposed
Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.93,0:46:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support the business \Nare often doing it by themselves actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.73,0:46:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather than helping the person in front
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.85,0:46:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are trying to promote \Nthe region from behind,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.29,0:46:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they themselves are doing the business.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.06,0:46:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that such projects \Nare increasing,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.63,0:46:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is quite a difficult problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.32,0:46:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will talk it later.\NThank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.35,0:47:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to Mr. Takemoto \Nfrom Bizen City
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.89,0:47:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who paneled in the first session,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.43,0:47:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were people who listen to him \Nby no means.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.90,0:47:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that case, all he did was \Njust to listen to anything they say.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.32,0:47:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You would find the path \Nto follow by doing so, he said.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.72,0:47:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that what \NProfessor Maruyama said
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.79,0:47:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was meant to be exactly the same thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.38,0:47:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next, Mayor Hosaka, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.97,0:47:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Setagaya-ku has a population \Nof 880,000 people,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.98,0:47:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it now probably \Nexceeds 90 million.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.13,0:47:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very populous, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.24,0:47:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a large power consumption area.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.58,0:47:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its residents' awareness \Nof the electricity is very high.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.29,0:47:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We decided to buy electricity from PPS
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.96,0:47:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slightly cheaper than from \NTokyo Electric Power Company.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.63,0:47:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are also a considerable number \Nof such people in this area
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.62,0:47:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who want to buy renewable \Nenergy power in their houses
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.38,0:48:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in apartments as a whole \Nwhere he or she lives
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.62,0:48:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or wanted to buy in the joint \Npurchase if possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.80,0:48:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The strength we think we have \Nas a municipality is trust.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.96,0:48:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm willing to open a window \Nof opportunities
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.39,0:48:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking advantage of this trust.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.76,0:48:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have launched a regional forum
Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.46,0:48:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that promotes the use \Nof renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.87,0:48:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a framework which includes \Nall financial institutions,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.22,0:48:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all universities, which present \Nin the wards,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.31,0:48:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agricultural cooperative which \Nwe actually have in Setagaya-ku
Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.34,0:48:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and various co-ops as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.50,0:48:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On one hand, there are people
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.40,0:49:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who want to do the business \Nof renewable energy
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.83,0:49:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which might be mainly solar PV panels \Nand solar thermal panels in Setagaya-ku
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.22,0:49:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or might be in the form \Nof bulk purchase to spread it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.94,0:49:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, we would like to \Nsupport and cheer up the disaster areas
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.98,0:49:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as Akita Prefecture or \NNagano Prefecture, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.62,0:49:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are trying to launch \Nrenewable energy power business
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.78,0:49:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as employment measures as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.30,0:49:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by purchasing their \Nelectricity selectively.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.80,0:49:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think these two are our \Nmainstream at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.30,0:49:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The local government should rather \Nprovide the precise information
Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.15,0:49:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than become a business principal.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.42,0:49:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think information is very important \Nat this moment
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.75,0:49:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's not obvious yet actual and
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.97,0:49:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly detailed condition \Nof feed-in tariffs.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.16,0:49:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think from the government's \Nperspective that we will support
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.48,0:49:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the spread of renewable energy \Nas a whole
Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.32,0:50:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while holding forums or \Nsymposiums frequently
Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.01,0:50:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which citizens can access freely.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.80,0:50:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.99,0:50:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think only the cases of small \Nmunicipalities are often discussed
Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.80,0:50:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a symposium like this \Nto promote renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.64,0:50:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that you have been \Nreally motivated to hear Søren
Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.15,0:50:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first session.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.81,0:50:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you might not be able \Nto find what to do
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.33,0:50:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you come home in Tokyo.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.17,0:50:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that was often \Nthe case up to now.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.14,0:50:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think a lot of things are \Nvisible recently what you can do
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.29,0:50:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even you live in urban areas \Nas Mayor Hosaka mentioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.63,0:50:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said they propose those things \Nplaying a modest role
Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.34,0:50:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behind the scene in a decent manner
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.57,0:50:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than playing the lead, I think.\NThank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.08,0:50:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, Ms Tamiya, please.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.58,0:51:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will talk a very fresh story.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.94,0:51:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We began learning the concept \Nof "Community Power" in Akita
Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.86,0:51:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receiving lectures by people from ISEP.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.04,0:51:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We learned that benefit of projects of \Nrenewable energy would rather go
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.91,0:51:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to companies of large capital
Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.52,0:51:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headquartered in Tokyo or overseas \Nthan fall in the local communities
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.93,0:51:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without this concept of community power \Neven if there is potential much.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.32,0:51:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We noticed that large companies \Nwithdraw if economy worsens
Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.22,0:51:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we loose employment \Neven we have attracted them.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.28,0:51:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We began noticing that \Nthe same thing would happen
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.35,0:51:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without implementing the concept of \N"Community Power"
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.88,0:51:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we need local ownership.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.56,0:51:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This kind of discussion begins \Nto come out especially on wind power
Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.34,0:51:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the leaders of the discussion \Nare often much larger senior
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.34,0:51:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps because the whole \Ncommunit is aging.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.30,0:52:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assuming that the average age \Nof the team are the age of 60's now,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.54,0:52:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I consider that the main leaders \Nwould be in their 70's
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.63,0:52:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the business starts successfully \Nin something like ten years time.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.17,0:52:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a sense of crisis that \Nthe 30's would have to work
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.97,0:52:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I imagine the year 2050.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.83,0:52:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people have been increasingly \Ncoming back strangely in sync
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.51,0:52:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whom I can share \Nthis sense of crisis with.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.97,0:52:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't know much \Nabout renewable energy first
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.72,0:52:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I find their motivation is high
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.10,0:52:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we have the study session \Nor town planning.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.07,0:52:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not know what can be \Ndone right now
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.69,0:52:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I am trying to involve people \Nyounger than me as many as possible
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.85,0:52:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while learning and sharing \Ninformation with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.89,0:52:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a big concern \Nthat the form of community power
Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.55,0:52:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be completely different\Nand that it would be determined
Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.79,0:53:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the direction in which \Nthe leaders choose.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.04,0:53:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am very grateful to receive \Nthis opportunity like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.55,0:53:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the best and newest models \Nin the world
Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.44,0:53:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would not perhaps work and \Neven could not to be imitated as they are.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.40,0:53:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there must be a lot of discussions \Nand twists and turns,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.21,0:53:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even conflicts, which I \Nreally don't want to call them so.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.68,0:53:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we have to take our time
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.90,0:53:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there are various people \Nwith various opinions.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.57,0:53:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.46,0:53:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like Stefan to introduce \Ngood examples overseas
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.76,0:53:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of public participation regardless \Nof the size of municipalities.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.98,0:57:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I want to talk about human resources \Nand the network as second question.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.39,0:57:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who panel here might be in front \Nand speak out in various places.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.08,0:57:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Among their supporters there might be someone \Nwhom they found unexpectedly important
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.92,0:57:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whose help had been very grateful.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.75,0:57:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like them to talk about these people \Nwithout mentioning their personal names.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.58,0:57:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the business entity doing 100% and the local \Ngovernment are the two important actors, of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.13,0:57:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who comes up in addition? This might be \Nthe key people in the administration of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.72,0:57:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it can be organized into two.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.60,0:58:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, this might be a very local story.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.41,0:58:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I tried to launch the business \Nwith the assistance of many people, I remember,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.71,0:58:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were much more people of the opposition \Nincluding the municipality than those in favor of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.91,0:58:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was advised to quit it and was \Ninformed that it would be impossible.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.72,0:58:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there were several people of the region or among \Nmy drinking buddy entirely unrelated to this business,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.48,0:58:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who kindly told me that they would support me if I did it.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.32,0:58:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think these words of them boosted my feelings.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.52,0:59:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secondly, it is natural that people of the business \Nregion work hard when you start it
Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.12,0:59:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Is there anybody who has a wealth of knowledge \Nof renewable energy in the city of 100,000 people?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.92,0:59:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is anyone with such knowledge of legal issues \Nwhen you try to raise the investment or civil investment?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.12,0:59:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am afraid there aren't unfortunately.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.93,0:59:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person with such knowledge is \Nor should be always, but in Japan.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.92,0:59:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have got the cooperation of those people \Nto be allowed to use their knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.100,0:59:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that these two above were very important
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.93,0:59:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they might be the big factors \Nthat I might be able to stand in front.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.11,0:59:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. When speaking about town revitalization, \Nit is often said that there must be 'Three Actors'.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.81,0:59:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outsiders, Young People and a Fool.\NI am afraid that Mr. Hara might be a Fool in this context.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.66,0:59:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would do it despite the opposite of all, it is a Fool.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.71,0:59:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There must be also those who support \Nfrom outside like us, Outsiders.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.56,1:00:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that people with young heart in the region would \Nalso satisfy the condition of young people above,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.84,1:00:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually people are helping him in his office now.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.51,1:00:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This can be applied to renewable energy projects \Nas to town revitalization. I thought it to hear him.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.44,1:00:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professor Maruyama, please.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.75,1:00:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I am going to tell you overlaps with the previous story.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.42,1:00:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who are expected to play supporting roles \Nof business are very important, I think,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.77,1:00:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they often play the lead in Japan \Nrather than supporting roles.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.78,1:00:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it is one of the circumstances \Nthat makes the situation has become so difficult.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.98,1:00:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might be the case in biomass \Nor small hydro or wind power,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.14,1:00:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is often well done up to \Nconstruction phase,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.57,1:00:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not in the following phase, especiall the maintenance \Nand business decision making
Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.27,1:01:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as managing business risks \Nare often surprisingly neglected.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.20,1:01:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think those things are important.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.77,1:01:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I will talk about network and human resources.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.23,1:01:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Hara has been doing business locally \Nwhere he lives in his native town.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:24.15,1:01:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was born in Tokyo and happened to live in \NAomori City at the time I stated the project.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.04,1:01:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The project was in a place called Ajigasawa \Nwhile I lived in Aomori City away from the site.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.24,1:01:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Human resources in the regional core city \Nlike the prefectural capital are important,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.67,1:01:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those networks are being maintained well also \Nin Aomori Prefecture like in Akita Prefecture, I think.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.82,1:02:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it is applicable without exception to all areas\Nthat there surely exists such people
Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.10,1:02:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can work for the region focusing on the future \Nof the region rather than self-interest.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.38,1:02:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably it is important to support them \Ncreating mechanisms
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.99,1:02:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in terms of practical business matters.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.73,1:02:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the roles of citizens living in the prefectural capital \Nor universities they are considerably important.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.90,1:02:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are described as \Nlocal public human resources recently.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.76,1:02:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people who can still help \Nin the local community.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.54,1:02:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Suzuki of Hokkaido mentioned \Nearlier in the first session
Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.98,1:02:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you should do it anyway,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.82,1:02:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but those people are surely necessary \Nin business perspective
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.66,1:02:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if there are the one who dares to do it.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.99,1:03:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is desirable this can be done in the region.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.39,1:03:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next, Mayor Hosaka, please.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:04.38,1:03:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you are going to start now, \Nso I would like you to comment
Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.38,1:03:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also on the type of human resources you are seeking \Nor on the kind of people you want to find.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.14,1:03:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not yet obvious that the Japanese society \Nis either changed at a first glance
Dialogue: 0,1:03:20.80,1:03:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the nuclear accident \Nand the earthquake of March 11
Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.65,1:03:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it is because the next thing \Nhas not come in the clear form.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.10,1:03:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel the sign of change from the ground up.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.27,1:03:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because attention to the regional forum of \Nrenewable energy I mentioned earlier is very high.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.43,1:03:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since I have been active as a politician \Nclose to NPOs or civic movements,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.99,1:03:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the achievements of people \Nwho have come to open up
Dialogue: 0,1:03:59.21,1:04:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in tough conditions in NPOs \Nor civic movements are quite large.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.89,1:04:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Among 880,000 residents of Setagaya-ku, \Nthere are several kind of people.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.13,1:04:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the economic community of \Nthe district, for example,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.84,1:04:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those whose ancestors had actually \Nlived in Setagaya in the Edo era
Dialogue: 0,1:04:22.93,1:04:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are influential men representing economic \Norganizations or agricultural cooperatives.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:30.46,1:04:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that sense, there are influential people \Nin the old region of Setagaya.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:39.46,1:04:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interest to renewable energy is high \Neven among those people.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:43.33,1:04:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Compared with those mentioned above,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:46.99,1:04:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are new business entities \Nsuch as co-op, NPOs or citizen businesses,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.01,1:04:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while some of them lives in Setagaya-ku \Nfor thirty or forty years
Dialogue: 0,1:04:58.09,1:05:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even they are said to be new,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.86,1:05:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each of these two are doing business in different shapes \Nsharing the same goal or cooperating each other.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.72,1:05:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As human resources, those who can surely \Ntalk to the people of different positions
Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.46,1:05:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not having someone monopolize the information
Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.89,1:05:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but providing information fairly \Nare very important.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.07,1:05:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the viewpoint of government, \Nin order to provide information impartially
Dialogue: 0,1:05:43.20,1:05:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those of citizen business or of pure business,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:47.89,1:05:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,government could by no means provide \Nexclusive information to a certain company.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.96,1:06:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is a huge opportunity \Nregarding the market size.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.98,1:06:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that sense those \Nwho can connect government
Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.04,1:06:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the business entities \Nand can properly communicate
Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.40,1:06:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people of different social position \Nare fairly important.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.51,1:06:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps one of the reasons \Nwhy Mr. Hara could have done the business until today
Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.34,1:06:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the fact that he lives in Iida City,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.51,1:06:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are a lot of people who say good things \Nwaving the flag and do not process practical matters.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.83,1:06:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there are some who could do both of them \Nand do not seek self-interest,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:36.28,1:06:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our society might change drastically.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.82,1:06:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Mentioned in the first session \Nwhen talking how to spread renewables,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:46.73,1:06:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are opinion leaders even among this audience.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:49.60,1:06:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There must be about five opinion leaders among \Na hundred people today. Søren Hermansen said so.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.92,1:06:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that it is also important to find such people \Nregardless of the scale, if it is small or big.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:59.77,1:07:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he mentioned public mind.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.49,1:07:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our director, Mr. Iida writes recently observing \NMr. Hara about three requirements of the leader.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.43,1:07:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First comes the public mind, \Nnot to seek self-interest,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.71,1:07:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next comes a certain \Nproper sense of business
Dialogue: 0,1:07:16.80,1:07:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and third comes the confidence \Nearned in the region.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.67,1:07:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think these are also important, how to find it. \NWe talk while drinking with something in mind.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:31.50,1:07:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we have it spread through briefings in various forms.\NThen Ms Tamiya, please.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:34.77,1:07:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You talk about what people you want \Nor you can recruit through Ustream.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.84,1:08:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want help from outside among the three which are \Ntrust, business sense and public mind is business sense.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.46,1:08:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a practical matter. But I guess a practical matter
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.12,1:08:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can supplement in the business base, \Nso it in fact does not come first.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.63,1:08:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that I want someone who could run with us\Nregardless from which region he or she is.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.67,1:08:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can be connected a lot through social networks \Nand it is desirable to spread such a circle, I think.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.34,1:08:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a figure of followers \Nbehind their leader shown earlier.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:49.66,1:08:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the reasons I was invited here, I believe, \Nwas that there were greater leaders in the region.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:58.06,1:09:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have been continuously appealing the potential \Nof renewable energies since before 311.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:10.23,1:09:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are three citizen windmills even in Akita Prefecture \Nand they are said to be increasing.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.84,1:09:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are those who have been doing such things \Nby very small number of people.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.67,1:09:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been frequently consulting them or talking \Nwith them about various dreams such as
Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.98,1:09:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,building at least one 100% citizen invested windmill \Neven in Akita City since about two years before
Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.57,1:09:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact I can follow them as their followers along \Nwith other younger people, I owe it to them much.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:52.15,1:09:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe such people are important.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.17,1:10:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am running a seminar with a help from young \Npeople voluntarily who say it is very interesting.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:04.58,1:10:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are much interested in being connected \Nwith the world with the concept of "Community Power"
Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.18,1:10:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they find so-called frontier of knowledge.\NThere are people who are frustrated with daily routine work
Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.06,1:10:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are unhappy with their daily life in Akita\Nand have an intention to go out if they had a chance.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.55,1:10:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They come and help us. \NI find they are very much helpful.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:30.38,1:10:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:32.38,1:10:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a phrase "Think Globally, Act Locally".
Dialogue: 0,1:10:39.13,1:10:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand Søren says "Think Locally, Act Locally" \Nand I think they are all linked.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.43,1:10:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have about twenty minutes remaining, \Nso we would like to talk about mechanisms.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:51.94,1:10:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Besides the business risks \Nwhich you have to take by yourselves,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:57.81,1:11:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there must have been, among \Nthe business activities until now,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.22,1:11:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,various problems or obstacles related to the rules \Nof administrative rules both in local and national level.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.62,1:11:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that they have the experience so far \Nin overcoming those above.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:09.94,1:11:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there must be a wall and \Nthere are many ways to overcome
Dialogue: 0,1:11:17.04,1:11:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as smashing from the front \Nor taking a detour.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.31,1:11:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In addition to these above, I would like to hear about \Nsuch mechanisms which make things easier
Dialogue: 0,1:11:24.49,1:11:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or about mechanisms without which things might be easier.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:26.96,1:11:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have heard much about \Nthe role of local governments.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.78,1:11:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have something to add, \Nwe are happy to hear that.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:38.65,1:11:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to hear from Stefan \Nafter hearing from every panelist around.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.57,1:11:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First we would like to have Mr. Hara.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:49.96,1:11:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think collaboration with the local \Ngovernment is absolutely necessary.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:54.95,1:11:59.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our case, for example, I think there must have been\Na lot of discussions in Iida City
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.09,1:12:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the local government \Ngives us the first permission
Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.92,1:12:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use roofs of public properties \Nfor the purpose outside.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.08,1:12:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government have permitted us the long-term \Noutside purpose use for twenty years
Dialogue: 0,1:12:25.77,1:12:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the business plan of our fund. \NI think this was very large.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:30.60,1:12:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Iida City did not spend any money actually\Nbut supported the citizen business
Dialogue: 0,1:12:35.42,1:12:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by such a mechanism. That was pretty significant.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:41.94,1:12:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to continue working on \Nsimilar renewable energy projects,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.68,1:12:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to extract business risks \Nand take measures to them
Dialogue: 0,1:12:58.42,1:13:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are known risks which cannot be \Nmeasured in business base.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.98,1:13:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also very important for the government
Dialogue: 0,1:13:08.71,1:13:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to make mechanisms to support \Nthe business on such risks.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.59,1:13:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like Mayor Hosaka to comment on this.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.48,1:13:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of the case of Iida City, \Nwe often mention this long-term permission
Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.93,1:13:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for twenty years which is the first case.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:24.06,1:13:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have experienced \Nthe bureaucracy so-called vertical wall?
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.38,1:13:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a lot.\NIt will be a concrete example.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.56,1:13:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seven years after installation of solar panels,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:38.91,1:13:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unexpected re-roofing became necessary \Nwhich was not originally planned.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:48.17,1:13:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had an agreement to cope with \Nthese things like re-roofing
Dialogue: 0,1:13:54.83,1:14:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including prior discussions. But that has often \Nnot been shared within the municipality.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:00.37,1:14:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The department in charge of the building and \Ntechnical department such as construction department
Dialogue: 0,1:14:07.100,1:14:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arbitrarily discussed and informed us \Nright before removing panels.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:20.04,1:14:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The new roofing they planned made \Nre-installing of solar panels impossible.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:27.57,1:14:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talk with the government of Iida City \Nto share such information.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.46,1:14:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Next, Professor Maruyama please
Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.00,1:14:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most important rule, I think, \Nthe government have to follow,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:41.38,1:14:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it will not do its own energy business.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:45.94,1:14:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With respect to the business like this,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:53.02,1:15:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of know-how on the local natural \Nconditions should be accumulated.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:00.96,1:15:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not only technically but also socially.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:06.73,1:15:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should not do it because officials in charge \Nare reassigned too often.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:15.02,1:15:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mechanisms to encourage competition to promote \Nsocially good business widely is another point.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:26.05,1:15:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regarding wind power, impact \Non the environment, for example,
Dialogue: 0,1:15:31.81,1:15:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be reduced as close to zero as possible \Nif you spend time and money infinitely.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:36.67,1:15:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, wind power business is no longer viable \Nas a business if you spend time and money infinitely.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:41.62,1:15:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There exists a mechanism at the moment
Dialogue: 0,1:15:44.78,1:15:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the business would become profitable \Nif you ease up environmental measures.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:49.32,1:15:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is important to make mechanisms such that \Nmaking agreement carefully and investigating carefully
Dialogue: 0,1:15:55.82,1:16:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the business more profitable.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:00.19,1:16:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example in Denmark, they ranks each area \Nbased on the data present in public.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:09.53,1:16:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The area of a certain rank where the assessment is unnecessary
Dialogue: 0,1:16:14.16,1:16:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that of another rank where one can venture \Nbut might be opposed.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:21.89,1:16:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A decent business entity selects \Nthe area of less impact.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:27.18,1:16:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very important to implement \Na mechanism to promote good business.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:33.77,1:16:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess it is also important to support a good energy \Nfrom the market side such that, for example,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:39.70,1:16:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Setagaya-ku won't buy even the renewable energy \Nfrom the business entity who ignore the region.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:55.73,1:17:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a certain sense Japan has accumulated \Nthe experiences of organic farming or thereabouts
Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.85,1:17:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those can be applied quite a lot actually to renewable energies.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:08.58,1:17:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.\NThe local government rather support
Dialogue: 0,1:17:11.70,1:17:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from behind by providing information, \Nfor example, than do their own business.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:15.64,1:17:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can support by selecting the good one.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:19.82,1:17:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mayor Hosaka, please.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:22.77,1:17:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How disastrous results the local government had \Nbrought so far by doing their own businesses,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:30.63,1:17:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I often heard it from Mr. Iida.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:36.11,1:17:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Subsidy of 100,000 yen for \Ninstalling one solar panel unit
Dialogue: 0,1:17:41.35,1:17:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was actually abolished \Nfrom this year in Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:45.72,1:17:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people might think that we take one \Nstep backwards from viewpoint of budget.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:56.27,1:18:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I said earlier, we will try not to loose trust\Nby always providing accurate and timely information
Dialogue: 0,1:18:08.95,1:18:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by holding regional forums of renewable energy \Nto share such information and by continuing these above.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:21.27,1:18:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will be various deployments \Nquite probably after this coming summer
Dialogue: 0,1:18:31.98,1:18:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as specialty shops of solar panels \Nadvertising loudly opened by various companies
Dialogue: 0,1:18:36.33,1:18:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who think the opportunities are coming.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:39.04,1:18:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people say they don't know at all \Nhow to determine when and where to buy.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:45.74,1:18:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are some places like a consumer information \Ncenter in Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:52.43,1:19:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for now, they don't have such knowledge \Nto be able to provide fair information
Dialogue: 0,1:19:00.54,1:19:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such as what to see to know good and bad points.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.100,1:19:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to train them so that \Nthey could point out the check point
Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.26,1:19:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the problem on the time of purchase \Nfrom consumers' perspective.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:12.84,1:19:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From now on we should offer rather space to \Nambitious people or businesses than subsidies.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:18.53,1:19:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should also offer space to venture companies \Nof energy conservation even it is not of renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:34.93,1:19:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Space is crucial for companies in the launch phase, \Nespecially in the location like Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:41.70,1:19:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if they could do this as an industrial policy \Nand for the utilization of vacant store or vacant house.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:49.94,1:19:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is already a certain activity called \NTown Planning Trust Fund
Dialogue: 0,1:19:55.11,1:20:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this raises funds for other \Nambitious businesses or citizens.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:01.87,1:20:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we can consider a fund to support \Nsuch citizen businesses in this field.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:12.63,1:20:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The administratives mechanism \Nto cover at the time of such disaster
Dialogue: 0,1:20:20.99,1:20:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be built-in in the stage like now.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:25.86,1:20:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is absolutely impossible to cover only a certain field \Nwhen something disastrous has happened.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.70,1:20:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are happy to hear you from the field and \Nwe will have to find a way in various means.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:38.48,1:20:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:39.58,1:20:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of information, I am also \Na part-time lecturer at a university.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:43.36,1:20:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked to students for ideas of mechanisms \Nto promote renewable energy,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:48.11,1:20:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the ideas was a renewable energy electricity \Nversion of "Kakaku.com (a price comparison site)."
Dialogue: 0,1:20:53.31,1:20:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is still important to organize information.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:55.69,1:21:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What mentioned at the end might become \Nthe renewable-energy-related town planning.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:03.90,1:21:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very important because it could become \Nthe opportunity to remove the vertical wall.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:08.58,1:21:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lastly, Ms Tamiya, please.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:11.51,1:21:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have a direct relationship much \Nwith local governments yet.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.40,1:21:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it might be a challenge in the future \Nwe have to accept.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:23.32,1:21:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think municipalities which happen to have \Nmayors like the mayor of Setagaya-ku
Dialogue: 0,1:21:29.07,1:21:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can lead the people in the area \Ncould make much progress.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:38.91,1:21:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are many municipalities \Nwhich don't have such leaders.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:48.70,1:21:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to seek good ideas from a variety of people \Nto approach the latter municipalities.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:57.79,1:22:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have spoken as Mayor of Setagaya-ku while ago \Nbut I forgot to say something.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.66,1:22:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe there must be many municipalities throughout \Nthe country which are preparing something in this field
Dialogue: 0,1:22:08.74,1:22:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people of ISEP are supposed to know the best \Nwhich municipalities are preparing what.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:14.78,1:22:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basic municipalities have to work \Ntogether to exchange ideas
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.49,1:22:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from both power producers and \Nconsumer sides which are different.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:27.48,1:22:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think a so-called exchange forum \Ncould be fairly helpful.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:35.32,1:22:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we take it as our homework.\NThank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:38.61,1:22:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to hear from Stefan in response to \Nthe efforts we have heard until now.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.95,1:22:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are mechanisms which support renewable \Nenergy projects in the region, for example,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:48.64,1:22:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a condition of investments in Denmark that investors \Nmust be from local municipalities.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:55.74,1:22:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could you comment on such mechanisms \Nor a role of local governments
Dialogue: 0,1:23:00.05,1:23:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to promote local renewable energy projects if any?
Dialogue: 0,1:26:43.40,1:26:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. We have only five minutes remaining.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:48.77,1:26:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please alIow me to cancel the questions \Nfrom the floor in this session.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:52.94,1:26:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lastly, we have been doing this session \Nwith the theme of "Ownership and Public Participation".
Dialogue: 0,1:26:59.73,1:27:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to hear someone who have \Nsomething else to do from now on,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:03.79,1:27:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something in terms of public participation. \NIs there anyone to speak up?
Dialogue: 0,1:27:10.60,1:27:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a future outlook.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:12.76,1:27:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This might be a plan you want to do, \Nor the next business or project.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:17.59,1:27:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this too difficult all of a sudden?
Dialogue: 0,1:27:21.12,1:27:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have anything, Mr. Hara?
Dialogue: 0,1:27:27.69,1:27:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this fiscal year, we have expanded so-called \Nzero yen system a little beyond Iida City
Dialogue: 0,1:27:39.70,1:27:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hope we could promote this across \Nthe region of south Shinshu.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:45.11,1:27:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until now in case with subsidies or using \Nso-called zero yen systems with no subsidies,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:50.48,1:27:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has been limited to individual housing.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:53.88,1:27:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After this coming July when feed-in tariffs begins,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:58.61,1:28:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are going to try so-called \Ndistributed megawatts system
Dialogue: 0,1:28:08.53,1:28:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which several sites collectively generate megawatts \Nin cooperation with the leading companies of the region.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:18.58,1:28:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the goal at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:33.23,1:28:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the start of feed-in tariffs finally, \NI think we will try a lot of things
Dialogue: 0,1:28:47.00,1:28:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to increase momentum taking advantage \Nof the timing at least in Setagaya-ku.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:54.34,1:28:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes Symposiums held by the private sector.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:59.35,1:29:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, what we are talking here is quite hard \Nfor general residents to grasp precisely.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:06.62,1:29:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most obvious point is the fact \Nthat the municipal office is connected
Dialogue: 0,1:29:11.26,1:29:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the electricity company other than \NTokyo Electric Power Company.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:15.03,1:29:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This made people think whether they \Nmight be able to do the same.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:19.10,1:29:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are just asking the Ministry \Nof Economy, Trade and Industry
Dialogue: 0,1:29:25.18,1:29:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to let us do the test model case of \Njoint purchasing of renewable energy
Dialogue: 0,1:29:30.97,1:29:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which might be just an experimental project ahead of schedule.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:37.30,1:29:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it becomes visible that general households elaborate \Nhow to choose electricity
Dialogue: 0,1:29:44.37,1:29:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually choose green power, it would spreads out fast.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:51.85,1:29:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will do our best because I think \Nthat wall is also a little thick.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:00.24,1:30:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this session we have received feedback from a variety of \Npositions in a variety of information about cases.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:12.42,1:30:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the figure shown at the beginning of the session, \Nthere are people like Mr. Hara and Professor Maruyama
Dialogue: 0,1:30:15.81,1:30:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who dedicate a hundred percent.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:18.94,1:30:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are also those who support from behind \Nand there were a wide variety of positions,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:24.10,1:30:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of various professions in a variety of relationships.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:28.76,1:30:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is possible not because they \Nare in smaller municipalities.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:32.59,1:30:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also have difficulties to some extent
Dialogue: 0,1:30:35.16,1:30:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have been done amazingly.\NOn the other hand,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:38.94,1:30:44.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does not mean that there is nothing we can do \Nbecause we live in the city.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:44.27,1:30:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that we could have shown the fact that \Nwe have a variety of choice using various information
Dialogue: 0,1:30:49.12,1:30:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that we can participate in various proportion \Nof renewable energy projects in this regard.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:53.71,1:31:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stefan has demonstrated the global trend, \Nthen that "Ownership and Public Participation"
Dialogue: 0,1:31:00.88,1:31:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affect much not only the flow of money \Nbut also that of feeling,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:09.20,1:31:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that the community is very important \Nfor the project of renewable energy.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:15.28,1:31:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to end this session now.\NI hope the applause for the participants, please.