0:00:08.343,0:00:13.922 State and banks, hidden aspects of a historical hold up 0:00:13.922,0:00:17.636 Conference by Myret Zaki and Etienne Chouard 0:00:17.636,0:00:21.021 Moderation: fabio Lo Verso (La cité) 0:00:21.021,0:00:22.052 First conference 0:00:22.052,0:00:24.016 "The State, Hostage of the financial sector" 0:00:24.016,0:00:26.999 By Myret Zaki 0:00:28.091,0:00:30.043 I'll stay here taking notes 0:00:30.043,0:00:34.044 because there will be an article about this topic in the next issue of newspaper "La Cité" 0:00:34.044,0:00:36.091 coming out next week 0:00:36.091,0:00:41.092 we'll come back on tonight's discussion 0:00:41.092,0:00:45.006 Thank you very much Fabio, and good evening to all of you 0:00:45.006,0:00:48.030 I am delighted to be here with professor Chouard 0:00:48.030,0:00:56.032 and to discover "l'usine Kugler" and to work in collaboration with "la cité" newspaper 0:00:56.032,0:00:59.037 I personally work for an economics magazine called "Bilan" 0:00:59.037,0:01:03.005 I've written a few books denouncing the 0:01:03.005,0:01:07.048 drift of the financial sector these last years[br]I've been following the evolution of finance the last 15 years 0:01:15.062,0:01:19.085 and I've seen how they played a central role in what we now call "the crisis" 0:01:19.085,0:01:24.009 so we are in the middle of a crisis as you probably noticed 0:01:24.009,0:01:27.012 But we don't really know why ? why now ? 0:01:27.012,0:01:29.062 we suddenly said that Greece was in crisis 0:01:29.062,0:01:33.093 Can anyone tell me why, according to them, 0:01:33.093,0:01:38.097 what triggered the "Greek crisis" 0:01:38.097,0:01:45.095 that is a enormous crisis since end of 2009 0:01:46.586,0:01:48.077 What started all of that in the first place 0:01:48.077,0:01:51.001 if you tell me it is because of its debt 0:01:51.001,0:01:54.087 I will tell you that Greece has the same debt level since several years 0:01:58.013,0:02:02.078 who decided there is a crisis? does anyone know? Nicolas, who knows all the answers :-) 0:02:02.078,0:02:07.008 The bad advices of Goldman Sachs and the way they've hidden, [br][br]a part of their debt has contributed greatly 0:02:07.008,0:02:12.016 ok good thread. The advices of Goldman sachs contributed to the crisis. I agree 0:02:12.016,0:02:17.077 everything started when at the end of 2009 the notation agencies 0:02:17.077,0:02:23.071 have said that Greece was having little financial difficulties 0:02:23.071,0:02:27.029 as several countries of western Europe 0:02:27.029,0:02:31.027 Their debt rate had slightly declined lately 0:02:31.027,0:02:33.039 and that they needed to improve the way they manage their finance 0:02:33.039,0:02:34.097 that's all 0:02:34.097,0:02:37.006 rating agencies never said that Greece was in bankrupt 0:02:37.006,0:02:41.009 All they said ...(sorry I am speaking too loud in this mic) 0:02:45.021,0:02:49.027 In the coming years Greece should try to have a better management of its finances 0:02:49.027,0:02:51.074 and that was in 2009 0:02:51.074,0:02:54.046 what did really trigger the crisis is that 0:02:54.046,0:02:59.081 there was a meeting between 5 hedge funds 0:03:03.041,0:03:06.057 in a restaurant in new York 0:03:06.057,0:03:07.556 an american newspaper told that story 0:03:07.556,0:03:09.056 this is not a fiction 0:03:09.056,0:03:12.266 one of the speculator present that day was Georges Soros 0:03:12.266,0:03:14.622 the man who hit the bank of england several years ago 0:03:14.622,0:03:17.025 and earned 2 billion dollars on an operation to devaluate 0:03:17.025,0:03:22.053 the british pound.