1 00:00:02,012 --> 00:00:06,081 Today is 13 May, Sunday, 2012, Jacque Fresco Seminar 2 00:00:07,079 --> 00:00:12,000 This discussion is about questions and answers. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,058 Sometimes a person asks a question, and i feel that they know very little about. 4 00:00:19,012 --> 00:00:24,039 In other words, if a person is enough familiar with electronics at all, says what if a machine breaks out, 5 00:00:26,069 --> 00:00:30,000 an electronics person doesn't know what is he talking about. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,090 Is it the transistors? are capacitors? circuit? welding? 7 00:00:33,090 --> 00:00:37,026 when you're not talking with specifics, you're not communicating. 8 00:00:37,026 --> 00:00:40,000 When a person says to me you can't protect the behaviour of people 9 00:00:42,053 --> 00:00:46,039 telling me that they don't know behave of people, and this is a subject that i can't do anything well. 10 00:00:50,015 --> 00:00:54,000 And let's say you do about people that insist that they're right? 11 00:00:55,013 --> 00:00:58,016 In other words, that is a specific question. A specific question as: how do you arrive in your decision? 12 00:01:01,032 --> 00:01:05,083 and why is your decision any better than any other decision? 13 00:01:05,083 --> 00:01:09,000 Now, a person that answers that question may or may not understanding the answer. 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,041 The assumption that people understands the answer you give them, is an assumption and a projection. 15 00:01:18,086 --> 00:01:24,073 So, in order to check out, if you have the time and few people, you would say what do you say i mean by that? 16 00:01:27,086 --> 00:01:33,021 come over something that attention 17 00:01:33,021 --> 00:01:39,061 So, people work automobile say automobile engineers, not mechanics. 18 00:01:39,061 --> 00:01:43,086 Mechanics are a little different than engineers Engineers understands the efficiency ratios of the parts. 19 00:01:48,018 --> 00:01:51,000 How much long you get per gallon, how few how fuel and the technician understands of all parts of the car. 20 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,092 It will say automobiles are unsafe, with conviction. 21 00:02:00,092 --> 00:02:04,012 That doesn't tell you have make him safer. And doesn't tell you anything 22 00:02:07,036 --> 00:02:12,040 Unless you say, if you make a break, Something that you can use. 23 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,062 Another unanswerable question is: how can you control the population? 24 00:02:18,062 --> 00:02:22,026 You can't control the population, it goes on and multiply. 25 00:02:22,026 --> 00:02:25,061 The question is how do you can control the population. 26 00:02:26,024 --> 00:02:30,038 Now, you can't control population, right on, and, does not give you alternatives. 27 00:02:33,056 --> 00:02:37,047 When a person says you can't make airplanes absolutely safe. 28 00:02:37,047 --> 00:02:40,098 Well, what the hell that tells you? nothing. Except that persons limited hability to participate. 29 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:49,090 A man would say if you made airplanes safer, that wouldn't say anything that you can use, 30 00:02:52,078 --> 00:02:55,072 so you have to discredit that, government has been corrupt even since begin, 31 00:02:59,050 --> 00:03:02,036 that doesn't tell you how to make them uncorrupt. 32 00:03:02,036 --> 00:03:05,046 So you tell that person that they have nothing to offer, unless you show a method to make a government work. 33 00:03:09,066 --> 00:03:15,038 Unless you say, i would like to know what your view is on this, 34 00:03:15,083 --> 00:03:20,088 have a problem comes up and they say what is your view on automobile safety, 35 00:03:20,088 --> 00:03:23,094 i said you know anything about automobiles. mechanisms of what are they for, 36 00:03:27,034 --> 00:03:30,068 and you can talk about the anatomy of the automobile. 37 00:03:30,068 --> 00:03:35,013 If you don't know anything about the human body, you can't talk about anatomy. 38 00:03:35,013 --> 00:03:38,013 sick people did say that we don't always go live collapsed something that you can do anything with it 39 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:44,086 if you say the soil is exhausted the plan so i'm going you've offered nothing retain sadness food 40 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:52,098 grounded in the florida coast the accident which is full 41 00:03:55,014 --> 00:03:57,049 if the plans consumer it needs water not just nutrient arkansas 42 00:04:01,036 --> 00:04:03,022 so what is the conveyor of the substitute plan previously 43 00:04:06,034 --> 00:04:11,002 we already have topshop what any suggestion that flash to that person 44 00:04:11,002 --> 00:04:12,079 caterpillar ahead of time what do you suggest 45 00:04:14,026 --> 00:04:16,062 well i don't know that shut up the industry in a timely manner do you think 46 00:04:19,083 --> 00:04:25,064 people can dance questions unless they know thirty-eight happening as such he got that is the same thing 47 00:04:28,026 --> 00:04:33,066 which you said that he wanted to have planned for what reason automobile move usually 48 00:04:34,090 --> 00:04:37,019 many different things fueled conducted changes so that wheeled transmission what we want no specific 49 00:04:43,089 --> 00:04:47,016 many things involved in the movement of a car 50 00:04:47,016 --> 00:04:51,087 refuge a huge everyday human beings to all come from different environments 51 00:04:51,087 --> 00:04:54,053 and in many different and you can't baseball react the same way attitude 52 00:04:58,022 --> 00:05:00,050 accepted persons limitations potential well a lot of people that are committed to talk to you today 53 00:05:05,041 --> 00:05:09,091 in the future they won't be now would you be coming to a medical conference 54 00:05:09,091 --> 00:05:13,056 negative about the jungle you think this concept that this matter 55 00:05:13,056 --> 00:05:15,000 what do you think about it interviewed justin outside mama oppression 56 00:05:18,074 --> 00:05:21,002 they don't say what do you think so i don't have a confirmation that the people 57 00:05:24,007 --> 00:05:26,050 and then there are no conference and a lot of people 58 00:05:28,029 --> 00:05:30,033 so it kind of question is a year are related to the flying machine only 59 00:05:34,006 --> 00:05:35,093 located discussion other airport safety than we h ave fha people here at work is done 60 00:05:41,097 --> 00:05:45,061 and you say well it's a matter of the runway well and the rest of the plane 61 00:05:45,061 --> 00:05:47,081 lands around lake cracks ellipses standard recommendations thinkers 62 00:05:50,061 --> 00:05:52,082 and reinforcement of ground why do you need me barcelona where they were great hotwire 63 00:05:57,029 --> 00:06:01,008 so the concrete crack it doesn't change elevation if you have wires and there 64 00:06:02,081 --> 00:06:05,011 hickey says the same location even though it's cracked 65 00:06:06,068 --> 00:06:10,077 if you're not equipped to understand the engine he can ask questions 66 00:06:10,077 --> 00:06:15,018 who organizes in electronic could fail to path participation but often dot 67 00:06:19,037 --> 00:06:22,050 sometimes i would not engage impression if i feel that i'm not talking about the subject 68 00:06:25,065 --> 00:06:29,041 they say you can't predicted predate human behavior 69 00:06:29,041 --> 00:06:32,082 it could get him to have contributed to tell us to 70 00:06:32,082 --> 00:06:34,037 giving a different view 71 00:06:34,037 --> 00:06:36,060 let me know only ten stories high 72 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:37,070 the senate floor 73 00:06:37,070 --> 00:06:39,019 why do you want to do that 74 00:06:39,019 --> 00:06:40,094 to talk about studying 75 00:06:40,094 --> 00:06:41,093 division 76 00:06:41,093 --> 00:06:44,099 you can make more than he was absolutely sick 77 00:06:44,099 --> 00:06:47,034 what do you feel a limitation 78 00:06:47,034 --> 00:06:52,077 well the drive may be distracted ponnu one patient in 79 00:06:52,077 --> 00:06:53,056 affection 80 00:06:53,056 --> 00:06:55,014 the distraction of dieting 81 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:56,093 it is a cell phone 82 00:06:56,093 --> 00:06:58,097 and that diving into a p 83 00:06:58,097 --> 00:07:02,081 and the kids are fighting in the bag does the distractions 84 00:07:02,081 --> 00:07:06,045 to anyone caught up in cincinnati to distraction 85 00:07:06,045 --> 00:07:08,047 how did you do that right now 86 00:07:08,047 --> 00:07:10,020 and he said 87 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:14,006 all you want soldiers who do is operated sheena 88 00:07:14,006 --> 00:07:15,035 a twenty-one 89 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:18,070 york could talk discuss philosophy 90 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:19,087 on the trenches 91 00:07:19,087 --> 00:07:21,025 because discussed 92 00:07:21,025 --> 00:07:23,072 portrayed as they get somebody else 93 00:07:23,072 --> 00:07:26,063 but that would be relevant to the war 94 00:07:26,063 --> 00:07:31,093 what they do say blindfolded assaulted needs to take its gonna pipeline for the 95 00:07:31,093 --> 00:07:33,051 cutest even 96 00:07:33,051 --> 00:07:37,028 and he has to assembly blindfolded 97 00:07:37,028 --> 00:07:40,033 candy case you don't have a lawyer in the country 98 00:07:40,033 --> 00:07:42,000 the machine gun jams 99 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,095 and want to know how the undo the gem 100 00:07:44,095 --> 00:07:46,078 but if you talk about velocity 101 00:07:46,078 --> 00:07:48,043 and the history of guns 102 00:07:48,043 --> 00:07:50,089 that does not undo the gem 103 00:07:50,089 --> 00:07:52,008 let you go 104 00:07:52,008 --> 00:07:54,045 very familiar with the taking the time 105 00:07:54,045 --> 00:07:57,041 the machine everynight conferences 106 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,038 are all the characteristics 107 00:07:59,038 --> 00:08:00,094 of different hair 108 00:08:00,094 --> 00:08:04,082 they try to follow that your government during the war 109 00:08:04,082 --> 00:08:06,006 because they show 110 00:08:06,006 --> 00:08:07,086 that they can't make it turn 111 00:08:07,086 --> 00:08:10,056 has faeces american friends can 112 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:12,012 therefore take advantage 113 00:08:12,012 --> 00:08:13,065 of that uncertainty 114 00:08:13,065 --> 00:08:15,036 of the internet 115 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:18,069 when the german pilot lands on an american irish 116 00:08:18,069 --> 00:08:20,077 has surrendered sierra lane 117 00:08:20,077 --> 00:08:21,084 they take it up 118 00:08:21,084 --> 00:08:24,043 to study extern characteristics 119 00:08:24,043 --> 00:08:26,022 had to write a report 120 00:08:26,022 --> 00:08:29,052 on what they can do and one of the cases 121 00:08:29,052 --> 00:08:31,081 that gives you a veteran pilot 122 00:08:32,091 --> 00:08:34,092 detainee of knowing the rate of crime of that era 123 00:08:36,029 --> 00:08:40,062 you don't know that and you just want to rely on your own ability 124 00:08:40,062 --> 00:08:43,066 killer had predicted a dire report although both forms of the andrea 125 00:08:47,041 --> 00:08:50,074 protesters leek and potato 126 00:08:50,074 --> 00:08:52,060 until you can't refrain 127 00:08:52,060 --> 00:08:54,079 courses you must have to fight 128 00:08:54,079 --> 00:08:57,017 so you offer a foreign power 129 00:08:57,017 --> 00:08:58,076 fifty thousand dollars 130 00:08:58,076 --> 00:09:00,054 whose defiance in cash 131 00:09:00,054 --> 00:09:02,028 he do it every after 132 00:09:02,028 --> 00:09:04,004 to get them to make 133 00:09:04,004 --> 00:09:06,044 they say you can get it can happen 134 00:09:06,044 --> 00:09:10,053 that doesn't anything one of the method of getting internet 135 00:09:10,053 --> 00:09:12,042 people come up with ideas 136 00:09:12,042 --> 00:09:16,071 whether or i don't know and a good detective work he is 137 00:09:16,071 --> 00:09:18,088 if the passenger's sentence dot 138 00:09:18,088 --> 00:09:22,019 so remember this is is that they have hidden 139 00:09:22,019 --> 00:09:25,062 people will talk about all kinds of things 140 00:09:26,090 --> 00:09:30,023 but not when their cooperation be taken to the book 141 00:09:30,023 --> 00:09:34,048 on the air conditioning breaks down they could take you to enter conditioning 142 00:09:34,048 --> 00:09:35,037 mechanic you can go to the bank 143 00:09:36,090 --> 00:09:38,037 he could say well i don't know 144 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:43,033 check the inquiry downplayed he doesn't know 145 00:09:43,033 --> 00:09:46,032 so everybody likes to feel comp 146 00:09:46,032 --> 00:09:47,098 everybody likes to feel 147 00:09:47,098 --> 00:09:51,038 they want to participate the question is 148 00:09:51,038 --> 00:09:54,009 the only way to participate anything 149 00:09:54,009 --> 00:09:58,028 is offering any tangible referential prescription 150 00:09:58,028 --> 00:09:59,030 if you believe 151 00:09:59,030 --> 00:10:02,050 they're all things are affected by other things 152 00:10:02,050 --> 00:10:05,062 means that humanity if there's a predictable 153 00:10:05,062 --> 00:10:10,032 if you believe that day digi conditioning chafee cake 154 00:10:10,032 --> 00:10:12,007 if you think it's a belong 155 00:10:12,007 --> 00:10:13,062 he can't take that 156 00:10:13,062 --> 00:10:16,080 the leader in human behavior is immoral 157 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,025 you can't predict 158 00:10:18,025 --> 00:10:19,061 who the hell no 159 00:10:19,061 --> 00:10:22,062 working in a wonderful he's going to be 160 00:10:22,062 --> 00:10:26,095 of the candidate that you can think but if you believe that he was fascinated 161 00:10:26,095 --> 00:10:28,021 because it is 162 00:10:28,021 --> 00:10:29,075 well they think 163 00:10:29,075 --> 00:10:32,035 that's alright as long as you know what works 164 00:10:32,035 --> 00:10:33,024 henrietta 165 00:10:33,024 --> 00:10:35,013 impression jessica less 166 00:10:35,013 --> 00:10:37,032 in the city appreicate if they have 167 00:10:37,032 --> 00:10:41,005 well division is not good addresses too low 168 00:10:41,005 --> 00:10:42,021 in louisville 169 00:10:42,021 --> 00:10:44,074 you have to have swine flu 170 00:10:44,074 --> 00:10:46,002 even take guests 171 00:10:46,002 --> 00:10:48,080 but that's not likely move it 172 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,016 if you believe in human behavior 173 00:10:51,016 --> 00:10:55,015 the state of corn which congressional floors reinforced 174 00:10:55,015 --> 00:10:58,000 he says people will do anything 175 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,011 if you really important 176 00:11:01,011 --> 00:11:02,055 if you want to know 177 00:11:02,055 --> 00:11:04,019 config truthfully 178 00:11:04,019 --> 00:11:08,020 i think the cadets who treat you said that was very nice of you to do that 179 00:11:08,020 --> 00:11:13,003 and you trade what would you like to do is it that you're going to go in america 180 00:11:13,003 --> 00:11:15,062 can be taken longer reinforcement 181 00:11:15,062 --> 00:11:16,097 alaina does 182 00:11:16,097 --> 00:11:19,038 you will get back to work every day 183 00:11:19,038 --> 00:11:23,077 if you say that we give negative reinforcing to certain behavior 184 00:11:23,077 --> 00:11:28,062 and will stop at a caveat only when you're a but when you're not there 185 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:30,057 okay maybe have another conversion 186 00:11:30,057 --> 00:11:31,082 the swimming pool 187 00:11:31,082 --> 00:11:33,009 if you're not there 188 00:11:33,009 --> 00:11:34,074 some of the impression 189 00:11:34,074 --> 00:11:37,016 they said they'd leave a certain way 190 00:11:37,016 --> 00:11:40,068 only when you're up liberty jewish uh... classroom 191 00:11:40,068 --> 00:11:42,097 salon relational 192 00:11:42,097 --> 00:11:43,089 the keys to that 193 00:11:43,089 --> 00:11:46,005 everybody's scientific 194 00:11:46,005 --> 00:11:47,076 because they're not read more 195 00:11:47,076 --> 00:11:48,049 talking 196 00:11:48,049 --> 00:11:50,039 when teachers 197 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:53,025 diamonds is eh... just shot down two 198 00:11:53,025 --> 00:11:55,039 or three german car 199 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:56,086 the captain says 200 00:11:56,086 --> 00:11:58,094 what method did you use 201 00:11:58,094 --> 00:12:01,059 because i want to talk to the new i was 202 00:12:01,059 --> 00:12:03,053 but the method you used 203 00:12:03,053 --> 00:12:05,067 out of the information 204 00:12:05,067 --> 00:12:06,062 got 205 00:12:06,062 --> 00:12:10,062 develop the era really know how to find out that you really have a 206 00:12:10,062 --> 00:12:12,026 that has to take 207 00:12:12,026 --> 00:12:16,030 although it's not sincere never outmaneuver the unique you gotta be 208 00:12:16,030 --> 00:12:18,001 given to the punch 209 00:12:18,001 --> 00:12:19,065 sound into the attic 210 00:12:19,065 --> 00:12:21,051 had taken his 211 00:12:21,051 --> 00:12:24,061 outpacing the ability to defy conference 212 00:12:24,061 --> 00:12:26,015 toddlers okay 213 00:12:26,015 --> 00:12:28,003 how to save lives here 214 00:12:28,003 --> 00:12:31,005 he let go yet myself singer 215 00:12:31,005 --> 00:12:33,017 if you don't know all those things 216 00:12:33,017 --> 00:12:35,020 it's hard to communicate and the president 217 00:12:36,066 --> 00:12:40,095 you didn't answer my question it would be you didn't answer my question in terms i didn't understand 218 00:12:42,089 --> 00:12:45,004 because you don't know that unit mike and he said electronic gravestones 219 00:12:48,054 --> 00:12:50,075 the guy in the field of electronics really investigating 220 00:12:52,090 --> 00:12:54,062 they say the capacitor 221 00:12:54,062 --> 00:12:58,015 overwhelmed brooke undecided copper wire 222 00:12:58,015 --> 00:13:00,060 going into pretentious 223 00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:02,073 here's a guy who had a look 224 00:13:02,073 --> 00:13:06,000 but he does not let let me just say eight broke down 225 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,028 internal dot net it hurts 226 00:13:08,028 --> 00:13:09,078 he knows that he has restate my uni kaha me 227 00:13:13,055 --> 00:13:18,000 on the bottom attorney he's got a little more who work for 228 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,079 hearsay if for example over 229 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:22,095 what's permissible 230 00:13:22,095 --> 00:13:24,065 he can do it 231 00:13:24,065 --> 00:13:27,025 john and i think that we could do anything with 232 00:13:27,025 --> 00:13:30,083 his the happier if he had the option b 233 00:13:30,083 --> 00:13:33,020 handled case had conducted 234 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:35,045 a liability is eating food 235 00:13:35,045 --> 00:13:37,012 introduce our guest 236 00:13:37,012 --> 00:13:38,090 or emotional stress 237 00:13:38,090 --> 00:13:40,040 he's going to hang up 238 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,074 someone usually michael continues the all day long 239 00:13:43,074 --> 00:13:45,044 i can't stop laughing 240 00:13:45,044 --> 00:13:48,021 he might take out his hand doesn't like that 241 00:13:48,021 --> 00:13:51,029 and compare it to other doctors 242 00:13:51,029 --> 00:13:52,094 he can't do that 243 00:13:52,094 --> 00:13:54,022 except unfair the every question 244 00:13:55,036 --> 00:13:58,077 does not compare mechanical systems 245 00:13:58,077 --> 00:14:03,022 nor can they talk about kisses on the city's if you say 246 00:14:03,022 --> 00:14:06,088 many people requiring different kinds of cities 247 00:14:06,088 --> 00:14:08,094 and different kinds of house 248 00:14:08,094 --> 00:14:14,047 now if they do if anybody would like to go on their own car individual cough for 249 00:14:14,047 --> 00:14:15,048 everybody 250 00:14:15,048 --> 00:14:17,058 it will cost a million dollars apiece 251 00:14:17,058 --> 00:14:19,047 if you make donaldson sample 252 00:14:19,047 --> 00:14:21,087 a hundred shed a tear look-alike 253 00:14:21,087 --> 00:14:24,012 much cheaper he understand them 254 00:14:24,012 --> 00:14:25,062 tomas carnage 255 00:14:25,062 --> 00:14:27,057 most forward volkswagens rather than a look-alike 256 00:14:29,038 --> 00:14:34,082 who make each one different there would be out of the range because 257 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:38,082 do you allow for individuality in that society 258 00:14:38,082 --> 00:14:41,091 idiotic individually to meet means 259 00:14:41,091 --> 00:14:44,020 differences in delhi 260 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:46,099 by different aspects of the culture 261 00:14:46,099 --> 00:14:50,078 we can afford all kinds of individuals 262 00:14:50,078 --> 00:14:52,088 guy i want to listen 263 00:14:52,088 --> 00:14:54,029 three creases 264 00:14:54,029 --> 00:14:59,014 less individual latitude obscene individual 265 00:14:59,014 --> 00:15:02,036 on the same as into the individually is when 266 00:15:02,036 --> 00:15:05,039 p was a right now and then to excess 267 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:07,002 feel the 268 00:15:07,002 --> 00:15:08,050 boston individuals 269 00:15:08,050 --> 00:15:11,055 but that this doesn't do anything for the people 270 00:15:11,055 --> 00:15:17,010 convincing them of that do they want to know what do you think this type it 271 00:15:17,010 --> 00:15:21,037 florida state is no different than the 272 00:15:21,037 --> 00:15:23,048 than existing 273 00:15:23,048 --> 00:15:24,057 i can't deal with 274 00:15:24,057 --> 00:15:28,034 in fact not device agencies that nothing thing 275 00:15:28,034 --> 00:15:31,007 and what does it contribute 276 00:15:31,007 --> 00:15:34,083 contributes to the well being of people they feel good energy 277 00:15:34,083 --> 00:15:36,013 is an important 278 00:15:36,013 --> 00:15:39,012 well if they want to see a bull flag they feel good 279 00:15:39,012 --> 00:15:40,032 watching the bulls 280 00:15:40,032 --> 00:15:42,097 feel good about the ultimate answer 281 00:15:42,097 --> 00:15:45,078 it's a collective utility area 282 00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:47,025 and i would go 283 00:15:47,025 --> 00:15:49,015 what will benefit people marsh 284 00:15:49,015 --> 00:15:53,057 to melancholic basic things how they work on special alert 285 00:15:53,057 --> 00:15:55,073 however the oh so they disconnected 286 00:15:55,073 --> 00:15:58,003 i would agree to the environment 287 00:15:58,003 --> 00:16:05,003 husain as part of nature without food being constructed life discrimination 288 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:12,051 at the class of two thousand years he will die kathy sanctions won't make it 289 00:16:12,051 --> 00:16:14,009 cushy cushion 290 00:16:14,009 --> 00:16:16,021 that we depend on ninety jim 291 00:16:16,021 --> 00:16:19,024 lightning finishes at nineteen feet in the soil 292 00:16:19,024 --> 00:16:21,084 it makes it available blanche 293 00:16:21,084 --> 00:16:25,014 deceptive practice writing now latvian current 294 00:16:25,014 --> 00:16:27,000 meant by should be cut 295 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,067 mock looked like he is not their model 296 00:16:29,067 --> 00:16:30,097 five matches 297 00:16:32,045 --> 00:16:36,047 you could tell by valued would be electricity would flow only in the ground bonafide 298 00:16:38,041 --> 00:16:40,051 would go to the atmosphere tree 299 00:16:41,087 --> 00:16:44,005 a little girl on the bicycle 300 00:16:44,005 --> 00:16:49,037 and that means it wasn't designed for her 301 00:16:49,037 --> 00:16:52,802 i swear to the provision when basic give us a change in season 302 00:16:52,802 --> 00:16:58,326 we need to change or people in this topic here apparently type to the board 303 00:16:58,326 --> 00:17:04,658 they would know what you're talking about. And they say it was a way before to 304 00:17:04,658 --> 00:17:09,108 If you give us a change in season, the average person not mean 305 00:17:09,108 --> 00:17:12,019 i'm meteorologist resistant to weather 306 00:17:12,019 --> 00:17:14,650 personal questions are asked. 307 00:17:14,650 --> 00:17:17,897 But there are other kids that would love until our case it would love to participate 308 00:17:17,897 --> 00:17:21,043 so they'll say part of it has a lot of evidence in that city? 309 00:17:21,043 --> 00:17:23,677 They are looking for participation 310 00:17:23,677 --> 00:17:29,258 If you say the water supply has not yet been all the houses 311 00:17:29,258 --> 00:17:34,057 can you make it even shut the whole he'd get whatever they want to know. 312 00:17:34,057 --> 00:17:37,391 But you can say what if i behind our lives 313 00:17:37,391 --> 00:17:42,583 that helps keep bringing up anarchy argument, the recognition of participation 314 00:17:42,583 --> 00:17:49,228 So, a real participation is a how would you acclimate people to just assign? 315 00:17:49,228 --> 00:17:53,030 if they were will grow to believe in individual housing? 316 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:58,174 You can't do that, unless you now to tell where people get their values from. 317 00:17:58,174 --> 00:18:05,168 If you live in the icu work touched on it, or week long, those become normal to you. 318 00:18:05,168 --> 00:18:14,114 And if you said oh i i one of the legal your predecessor president bringing up contradiction, or no other reason than participating. 319 00:18:14,114 --> 00:18:15,495 Do you understand that? 320 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:21,141 What is real participation when the brain cell what we do? Gee, you crash. 321 00:18:21,141 --> 00:18:26,049 who can you make brakes less apt to fail? No, i’m sure you not. 322 00:18:26,049 --> 00:18:28,050 playlists atrophic 323 00:18:28,050 --> 00:18:31,083 So, your assumption reception argumentative questions questions 324 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:33,041 Is it this is an assumption 325 00:18:33,041 --> 00:18:36,323 Unless you ask what you think i mean? 326 00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:38,075 And they come up with some intermediate 327 00:18:38,075 --> 00:18:41,091 say, apparently i was unable to answer 328 00:18:41,091 --> 00:18:48,166 or they don't have the background to understand what went wrong with the electronics. 329 00:18:48,166 --> 00:18:53,082 if you tell them kidney purposefully not working properly 330 00:18:53,082 --> 00:18:56,106 cliches old potato colony 331 00:18:56,106 --> 00:19:00,090 an orthodox and if you have to get the book handbook of the for me 332 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:06,003 and uh... of the anatomy opted to go and how they work what they do 333 00:19:06,003 --> 00:19:09,092 to the organs were going on today control by abortion 334 00:19:09,092 --> 00:19:13,060 all of a study of motions and the effect on mortgage 335 00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:16,003 which is another string celtic 336 00:19:16,003 --> 00:19:17,038 psychology opulence 337 00:19:18,044 --> 00:19:21,051 this is an always the failure of the kidney 338 00:19:21,051 --> 00:19:22,095 he could be a failure 339 00:19:22,095 --> 00:19:24,094 of love of life for you 340 00:19:24,094 --> 00:19:27,077 if your whole family is killed one of the election 341 00:19:27,077 --> 00:19:29,078 it may not want to live a day 342 00:19:29,078 --> 00:19:32,019 they call at the will to die 343 00:19:32,019 --> 00:19:34,028 that should be deleted will death 344 00:19:34,028 --> 00:19:37,051 i know it seems strange that they go to bed at night 345 00:19:37,051 --> 00:19:39,044 and they don't feel alive 346 00:19:39,044 --> 00:19:41,023 they don't sleep well 347 00:19:41,023 --> 00:19:42,094 they've been see other people 348 00:19:42,094 --> 00:19:46,096 for their life has been cut what they called 349 00:19:46,096 --> 00:19:50,029 if people live in a world where everybody friendly 350 00:19:50,029 --> 00:19:53,003 everybody's concerned about you will be would you 351 00:19:53,095 --> 00:19:57,025 culture friend dollars you've got left alone 352 00:19:57,025 --> 00:19:58,079 home either pay the rent obligated eat 353 00:20:00,054 --> 00:20:03,056 upheaval liberal old today 354 00:20:03,056 --> 00:20:06,097 and i would say that if everybody tried to work 355 00:20:06,097 --> 00:20:09,048 to enhance a lot of everybody else 356 00:20:09,048 --> 00:20:14,009 you would be desperate when somebody dies give him a television boy drea 357 00:20:14,009 --> 00:20:15,048 jennings thank you 358 00:20:15,048 --> 00:20:19,071 how do you know what i mean by answering questions you can't let the patient 359 00:20:19,071 --> 00:20:21,090 isn't that discipline represent 360 00:20:22,081 --> 00:20:27,019 to human eighty keeps changing that's why you can't dictate what people do 361 00:20:27,019 --> 00:20:28,083 say he's telling you 362 00:20:28,083 --> 00:20:30,085 that he hasn't already method of predicting behavior 363 00:20:32,056 --> 00:20:35,051 now you know what to do lane jobs 364 00:20:35,051 --> 00:20:37,055 they have good communication if they do 365 00:20:38,073 --> 00:20:41,079 wanted the loop with the ruling does too big of the loop 366 00:20:43,007 --> 00:20:46,096 to me is that brown development correctly may do that at the end of the way 367 00:20:49,033 --> 00:20:51,048 the pilot the main guy has a lobbyist uh 368 00:20:53,036 --> 00:20:58,053 prenatal are trained to follow the puck 369 00:20:58,053 --> 00:21:01,028 the pilot makes it harder on his decision that you know 370 00:21:02,041 --> 00:21:05,072 thank you for allowing us to collect it worked out alright he kicked ass 371 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:10,032 because as all the way people have not knowing things 372 00:21:12,025 --> 00:21:16,079 is that the x_-ray in the field knows more about it that you do it's true 373 00:21:17,086 --> 00:21:19,098 their refrigerators engineer 374 00:21:19,098 --> 00:21:21,055 might be able to make use his radio worked well 375 00:21:24,019 --> 00:21:27,049 but he knows more about it that the breakdown 376 00:21:27,049 --> 00:21:29,076 killing you call upon expiry 377 00:21:29,076 --> 00:21:31,038 they're not always accurate 378 00:21:31,038 --> 00:21:34,011 but they're more likely that you are 379 00:21:34,011 --> 00:21:36,022 and that's all we go away 380 00:21:36,022 --> 00:21:38,058 half of the largest tells me 381 00:21:38,058 --> 00:21:41,026 we expect a very stormy winter 382 00:21:41,026 --> 00:21:45,072 he has more methods of the arriving at that prediction couldn't be long yet 383 00:21:47,044 --> 00:21:48,088 but cardio many times munition 384 00:21:53,019 --> 00:21:55,031 so we go quiet diameters 385 00:21:55,031 --> 00:21:57,005 the best place to catch fish 386 00:21:57,005 --> 00:21:58,039 this bureau grief 387 00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:01,017 how long you've been fishing sixty five years 388 00:22:01,017 --> 00:22:02,055 how many fish he caught four thousand toms 389 00:22:04,098 --> 00:22:06,046 you've been listening to him 390 00:22:06,046 --> 00:22:09,044 at the time they still had cooled to a great day 391 00:22:09,044 --> 00:22:12,029 will he be could he be long yes he could 392 00:22:12,029 --> 00:22:14,047 but now they want to hear trish 393 00:22:14,047 --> 00:22:16,025 as this is a perfect now 394 00:22:16,025 --> 00:22:18,059 the worker who cares about me 395 00:22:18,059 --> 00:22:21,036 and leaders of the operation that city 396 00:22:21,036 --> 00:22:25,063 for the benefit of all people in that city all the time 397 00:22:25,063 --> 00:22:27,001 pierce's novel productions 398 00:22:28,063 --> 00:22:32,047 if you could recommend a method to make it more substantial 399 00:22:32,047 --> 00:22:34,011 recommend that night 400 00:22:34,011 --> 00:22:36,077 do you understand that communication 401 00:22:36,077 --> 00:22:38,058 there is no communication 402 00:22:38,058 --> 00:22:42,043 with people so not schooled in in that 403 00:22:42,043 --> 00:22:44,038 so if you have to do it he can 404 00:22:44,038 --> 00:22:46,041 that discipline first 405 00:22:46,041 --> 00:22:48,037 that'd be eight is not their own 406 00:22:48,037 --> 00:22:49,090 that shaped by culture 407 00:22:49,090 --> 00:22:51,039 giving him vision 408 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:53,000 do that first 409 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,039 and then go off an engineer and you're better off. 410 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:01,158 They believe that every president in individual and individuality is within the parish 411 00:23:01,158 --> 00:23:05,038 If you can't disprove that deducted mistake 412 00:23:05,038 --> 00:23:07,034 because he can take it anywhere. 413 00:23:07,034 --> 00:23:12,039 if you believe yesterday did you see dust to dawn placing thank you 414 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:16,045 the guy told me she says no then testability 415 00:23:16,045 --> 00:23:19,032 He gave me for me 416 00:23:19,032 --> 00:23:25,095 But if you think that those same goal of a case that feed it fresh food data dog likes 417 00:23:25,095 --> 00:23:30,046 at a time again comes over two daughters left us 418 00:23:30,046 --> 00:23:33,997 who died in say wooden shack, less apt to snap 419 00:23:34,001 --> 00:23:36,079 If people are exceptional for one 420 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:42,099 bus and i love you i need you i want to you need or need anything in the world 421 00:23:42,099 --> 00:23:47,347 if they don't need any way they can't just have a conference in the other person. 422 00:23:47,347 --> 00:23:50,528 If the person has confidence in another person 423 00:23:50,528 --> 00:23:55,129 you really can't do that as you know more about the subject of the other person. 424 00:23:55,129 --> 00:24:00,494 The (?) conference in the laptop into the pilot flying a plane, and i can fly as well as him, 425 00:24:00,494 --> 00:24:03,444 I’ve flown with him a lot, and he gets me down. 426 00:24:03,444 --> 00:24:07,012 That is all i have come the fact that he got me there. 427 00:24:07,012 --> 00:24:11,641 Is it a confident fizzy accompanying pilot? I don't know under what condition she's confident 428 00:24:11,641 --> 00:24:14,433 and under other conditions he is not. 429 00:24:14,433 --> 00:24:20,046 I think i told some of you here about the has a lot of people 430 00:24:20,046 --> 00:24:22,039 it wouldn't have time 431 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:28,502 and the pilot said he (?) smoke, and went back to me if i don't want he doesn fire on the floor, they up the tea. 432 00:24:28,502 --> 00:24:34,051 Obviously, they don't understand the significance of that to people that do that. 433 00:24:34,051 --> 00:24:37,796 But they always understand that fire he see, 434 00:24:37,796 --> 00:24:43,234 for making the final flaw they did not able to understand that. 435 00:24:43,234 --> 00:24:48,074 I’m sure they did make a plan yes they do that but i wanted to be 436 00:24:48,074 --> 00:24:50,024 I don’t think they did. 437 00:24:50,024 --> 00:24:56,070 security to mac copulating may define india eked t 438 00:24:56,070 --> 00:25:03,098 Are they dumb? No. They don’t understand to the relationship of fire to the inside the airplane. 439 00:25:03,098 --> 00:25:09,108 specially at high altitude, where they have air circulating and limited oxygen. 440 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:14,161 If you open a window at an airplane, all the air will be sucked out. 441 00:25:14,161 --> 00:25:17,000 And some people would say i would like a little ventilation. 442 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,047 If the windows were open global could be a lot of dead people requested 443 00:25:21,047 --> 00:25:23,003 And you wouldn’t know why. 444 00:25:23,003 --> 00:25:27,091 Unless they know i must say how much what would that work unchanged that broken parts. 445 00:25:27,091 --> 00:25:33,045 How do you know this? When the plane crashes, the FHA takes you to know hanger 446 00:25:33,045 --> 00:25:38,088 lays out the windows and the door of the land here, and they look at everything. 447 00:25:38,088 --> 00:25:45,002 there was an air pressure problem, profusely diploma windows blown out, 448 00:25:45,027 --> 00:25:47,032 and they know what love for. 449 00:25:47,032 --> 00:25:52,533 FHA are they perfect? No. But you know better what to look for than the average person. 450 00:25:52,533 --> 00:25:58,141 So, when the FHA says, they do a list of probable cause of that crash. 451 00:25:58,141 --> 00:26:04,584 Now, if you say the man assassinated another person, because he was brought up in Italy, 452 00:26:04,584 --> 00:26:10,600 or the value system that differences that with people who don’t assassinate people that they disagree with. 453 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,355 But if a person’s condition to beat up on another guy, 454 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:20,917 that looks as tended to his wife sexually, is he bad, or is he a victim of the culture? That is what i mean. 455 00:26:20,917 --> 00:26:25,768 So, if you get mad at somebody, it means you really don’t understand this subject. 456 00:26:25,768 --> 00:26:28,970 So if a guy says “you want to fight?” 457 00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:32,471 He believes that beat you in a fight is right. 458 00:26:32,471 --> 00:26:37,028 He may be better at fighting than you are, but it doesn’t make him right. 459 00:26:37,028 --> 00:26:43,047 Normal, all of the normal people believe that a guy who is better in fighting is right. 460 00:26:43,047 --> 00:26:46,205 Right is might (?). You heard that shit. 461 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:50,282 And so, if you are right, you get the shit to get outer here. 462 00:26:50,282 --> 00:26:56,325 So, if they say, why wouldn’t you explain your ideas to a lot of people, and see how they feel about it? 463 00:26:56,325 --> 00:27:02,111 If you explain, if you have an atheist lecture to a group of catholics, they could revoke him out. 464 00:27:02,111 --> 00:27:07,042 If you lose a debate, say you are in a debating team, and there is a debate. 465 00:27:07,042 --> 00:27:11,144 The guys like the guy that wanted to pay. Does it mean he is right? No. 466 00:27:11,144 --> 00:27:17,887 It just meant that the people are listening to, or is familiar with that point of view, or under another point of view. 467 00:27:17,887 --> 00:27:21,329 So if you win a debate it doesn’t mean you’re right. 468 00:27:21,329 --> 00:27:26,884 If say god may all listen and can come about in another way. Most people will shake their heads. 469 00:27:26,884 --> 00:27:29,009 That doesn’t make him right. 470 00:27:29,009 --> 00:27:33,016 So, when you get into a debate, you don’t enter to win. 471 00:27:33,016 --> 00:27:38,287 You enter to see how many people you can primarily affect in the discussion. 472 00:27:38,287 --> 00:27:42,729 And if you are “poopooed”, you know what it mean? It says, that guy is falling into shit. 473 00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:49,186 And you will walk out, that means you would have no relevant approaches to those people. 474 00:27:49,186 --> 00:27:52,545 Do you understand the questions and the answers? There are no answers. 475 00:27:52,545 --> 00:27:56,096 Answer is, can we answer this question? 476 00:27:56,096 --> 00:28:00,015 What makes war, like this one answer, this is the answer. 477 00:28:00,015 --> 00:28:04,194 It is a whole study of kingdoms and habits of thought, 478 00:28:04,194 --> 00:28:07,749 and this nation is different to the other nation, 479 00:28:07,749 --> 00:28:12,007 and believes their way is the right way, so they try too kill the other nation. 480 00:28:12,007 --> 00:28:15,642 Are they bad? No. Are they murderers? No. 481 00:28:15,642 --> 00:28:18,097 They are victims of a different culture. 482 00:28:18,097 --> 00:28:22,450 So, if you can’t get to people, instead of saying they are dumb, 483 00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:26,480 and that you don’t have the time to build the referential language, 484 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,081 or they don't have the background to understand you. That is possible. 485 00:28:31,081 --> 00:28:35,014 I wanted you to get that (?), so you don’t waste your time. 486 00:28:35,014 --> 00:28:43,262 I don’t talk to people that raises questions like you can't predict your own behavior. I can’t do anything with that. 487 00:28:43,262 --> 00:28:47,405 You mentioned if you want to go over intellectual traps. 488 00:28:47,405 --> 00:28:53,214 Intellectual traps is the habits. You picked up a habit as an intellectual trap. 489 00:28:53,214 --> 00:28:59,146 You revert back to that, say, somebody has make all this. That is the individual trap. 490 00:28:59,146 --> 00:29:05,088 If you trained in religion first, then the intellectual trap is assuming god made all of this. 491 00:29:05,088 --> 00:29:11,114 And if you behaved badly, they say that devil (?) into you. That is an intellectual trap. 492 00:29:11,114 --> 00:29:14,011 You have the free will and kick the devil out of here. 493 00:29:14,011 --> 00:29:20,131 There are people tended to grow on that section to get out he said the track 494 00:29:20,131 --> 00:29:22,880 keep her off right now test 495 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:30,090 That is an intellectual trap. That means at his school if indeed he isn't sure if i A pretended like to attract that is an intellectual trap. 496 00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:33,732 A habit, established habit, is an intellectual trap. 497 00:29:33,732 --> 00:29:37,068 Yes. Staying up all is an alternative in the problem. 498 00:29:37,068 --> 00:29:39,152 review 499 00:29:39,152 --> 00:29:42,019 Very difficultly. You can’t.. It's almost impossible 500 00:29:42,019 --> 00:29:48,023 Because of a guy diet pluck a whole bunch electronic equipment sound cooking, everything. 501 00:29:48,023 --> 00:29:50,025 And he knows something about electronics, sound equipment, erything. 502 00:29:50,025 --> 00:29:53,935 he said my system isn't working, it’s all you can say. 503 00:29:53,935 --> 00:30:01,159 But you can say it's a transistors capacitors, circuitry, he can’t say that. She doesn't know that. 504 00:30:01,159 --> 00:30:04,085 places is not working to explain 505 00:30:04,085 --> 00:30:08,164 there's a guy in terms of the violence doesn't go up he hooks inside 506 00:30:08,164 --> 00:30:11,044 he sees it worked out to insisted he dealt with a look 507 00:30:13,007 --> 00:30:16,044 but the average price of my car isn't working right 508 00:30:16,044 --> 00:30:20,004 it tends to be until the last right chuck 509 00:30:20,096 --> 00:30:23,088 those words that you'd like i was working on 510 00:30:23,088 --> 00:30:25,057 he took a little volunteers has a right 511 00:30:27,004 --> 00:30:29,067 he thinks in terms of time 512 00:30:29,067 --> 00:30:32,059 the world's he enters a new strategy 513 00:30:32,059 --> 00:30:33,063 but it doesn't happen 514 00:30:33,063 --> 00:30:35,001 the average person unless they don't panic four times and that any stated that 515 00:30:39,091 --> 00:30:42,068 committed by pediatrician lifetime chump change here 516 00:30:44,044 --> 00:30:46,052 only active you know per person can 517 00:30:47,060 --> 00:30:49,035 no if she had oppression can't know 518 00:30:51,009 --> 00:30:54,077 the to humanity it p humidity in the year 519 00:30:54,077 --> 00:30:56,099 that carries the health care whatever changes 520 00:30:58,069 --> 00:31:00,021 unless they know about transferring out 521 00:31:02,017 --> 00:31:04,978 So you think totally insane even talk to people. 522 00:31:04,978 --> 00:31:08,043 That’s why it's good to have to go through what you majoring 523 00:31:08,043 --> 00:31:10,059 And the guy says conscious electronic. 524 00:31:10,059 --> 00:31:13,935 And, what else you should he would be here? Human behaviour. 525 00:31:13,935 --> 00:31:17,382 How much of human behavior have you worked with? 526 00:31:17,382 --> 00:31:22,143 Well, i like Charles Gordon’s concepts of behaviour. 527 00:31:22,143 --> 00:31:25,018 Or i like the (?), you know? 528 00:31:25,018 --> 00:31:30,768 Then you know what areas of behaviour they are endoctrinated in. Or in which ways. 529 00:31:30,768 --> 00:31:34,106 Can a guy be a mechanistic basically 530 00:31:34,106 --> 00:31:38,642 I would say no because a mechanist listen a lot of people says, 531 00:31:38,642 --> 00:31:41,042 but then put it to test and see if it works. 532 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:45,125 And if works, they are not victims of habituation. 533 00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:48,033 Now, let me give you an example of a statement on 534 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:52,098 only and they can gentile impressions 535 00:31:52,098 --> 00:31:55,025 When a person says my refrigerator doesn't work 536 00:31:55,025 --> 00:32:01,186 well, they don’t know whether if it gets as cool as it should, as it turned off, they don’t know. 537 00:32:01,186 --> 00:32:07,123 They are experts, as a guy that knows the anatomy of the refrigerator. You can talk to them. 538 00:32:07,123 --> 00:32:12,005 But you can’t talk to a person that knows nothing about refrigerator. 539 00:32:12,005 --> 00:32:18,165 A person that knows nothing, about to say, airplanes. They can't say what makes it stable. 540 00:32:18,165 --> 00:32:24,026 He doesn't know what you said that he'd like to see. He doesn’t know what that means. 541 00:32:24,026 --> 00:32:26,090 How much (?), how do you determine that. 542 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:30,161 In aeronautics indian army you're getting the message the economy 543 00:32:30,161 --> 00:32:35,085 In automotive science you're shaking his love of the oakland hills. 544 00:32:35,085 --> 00:32:38,009 And you have a person that says yes. 545 00:32:38,009 --> 00:32:42,115 can't find a health forty five degrees too much 546 00:32:42,115 --> 00:32:46,135 if i can handle camera work 547 00:32:46,135 --> 00:32:49,091 so if you have a table india water 548 00:32:49,091 --> 00:32:51,082 do not try to climb hills 549 00:32:51,082 --> 00:32:57,058 except affordability that's how to use a mechanism. 550 00:32:57,058 --> 00:33:02,069 Don't try to do upside-down flying in a nonstop flight 551 00:33:02,071 --> 00:33:06,197 has stopped playing shops the fuels products outside 552 00:33:06,197 --> 00:33:09,025 lawyers for the whole plan 553 00:33:09,025 --> 00:33:12,074 so stunt kite has a bypass mechanism 554 00:33:12,074 --> 00:33:15,014 shuts up you'll when the temperature 555 00:33:15,014 --> 00:33:18,032 but if you say the plane discipline to study 556 00:33:18,032 --> 00:33:21,058 that means people took here 557 00:33:21,058 --> 00:33:23,049 so when you talk about giving stuff 558 00:33:23,049 --> 00:33:29,693 architecture structural, bridges, the way that the structures are arranged, even talk to people. 559 00:33:29,693 --> 00:33:32,741 But if they said, what makes the bridge stand-up? 560 00:33:32,741 --> 00:33:36,080 You say, have you got three days. No, i haven’t. 561 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,652 Then come back when you have more time. 562 00:33:38,652 --> 00:33:42,159 Because there are many little things you can discuss. 563 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:46,123 But things are not subject to questions and answers. 564 00:33:46,123 --> 00:33:51,035 In school, they say there is a question-and-answer period. We didn't talk about it. 565 00:33:51,035 --> 00:33:54,044 But you really can't have questions and answers. 566 00:33:54,044 --> 00:33:59,155 Even he did have kindly inform tech precious pal entitlement to health care what technology is. 567 00:33:59,155 --> 00:34:09,057 And how technicians arrive at decisions today not arrival decisions outside their field, maybe not. You have to find that out. 568 00:34:09,057 --> 00:34:13,526 An electronic expert doesn’t know how to check behaviiour. 569 00:34:13,526 --> 00:34:18,042 he says don't feed on itself templates natural 570 00:34:18,042 --> 00:34:23,243 the wrong assumptions, even though we don't electrons for agency 571 00:34:23,243 --> 00:34:26,251 he can transfer that to another field. 572 00:34:26,251 --> 00:34:29,006 So, questions and answers and really, 573 00:34:29,006 --> 00:34:32,097 in the future about the what was your background 574 00:34:32,097 --> 00:34:34,014 networking stuff 575 00:34:34,014 --> 00:34:37,067 when you talk to the intern 576 00:34:37,067 --> 00:34:40,081 there aren't going to change question 577 00:34:40,081 --> 00:34:42,064 well even though i knew that 578 00:34:42,064 --> 00:34:43,087 any questions 579 00:34:43,087 --> 00:34:45,079 and i think you don't understand 580 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,052 patel questions but his statements 581 00:34:49,052 --> 00:34:53,015 feeling all he's permitted to talk to spectacular 582 00:34:53,015 --> 00:34:56,069 how of his vision 583 00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:58,054 but don't communicate 584 00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:02,070 guilty tells people without limitation like chico 585 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:06,096 do you understand what that means is not just saying his questions and answers 586 00:35:06,096 --> 00:35:08,055 he can sit back 587 00:35:08,055 --> 00:35:10,073 hinting to electronic 588 00:35:10,073 --> 00:35:16,410 uneven teeth about two characteristics of technology, how one point six with another, 589 00:35:16,410 --> 00:35:21,069 there is because the cold usually in automobiles ordeal tell you what to do. 590 00:35:21,069 --> 00:35:26,090 Without that columbia interaction the average person drives a car into the great until it breaks down. This is what they do. 591 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:28,717 They drive it until don't include cuts out. 592 00:35:28,717 --> 00:35:34,102 Because they can afford to take a ten anna jarvis like that slight differencies. And always have the money. 593 00:35:34,102 --> 00:35:38,054 So, the word democracy cannot be enough meta fist (?). 594 00:35:38,054 --> 00:35:45,048 If you can afford to take a call in or your wife to the doctor what she had chronic headaches, 595 00:35:45,048 --> 00:35:48,030 and take taper into an mri just over a thousand dollars, 596 00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:52,611 to bucket last don't stuff your best buy guts on somebody. 597 00:35:52,611 --> 00:35:55,715 He is fine roundabouts isn't review board you are poor. 598 00:35:55,715 --> 00:36:00,604 So, the word democracy does not permit you to behave democratically. 599 00:36:00,604 --> 00:36:03,019 Unless you have the purchasing power to do so. 600 00:36:03,019 --> 00:36:10,765 So i don't understand what it's like freedom, democracy, individuality, because they're not telling me anything. 601 00:36:10,765 --> 00:36:14,864 Something about the persons limitations is all things go they told me. 602 00:36:14,864 --> 00:36:17,355 not what society believed purposes i believe in individual that way. 603 00:36:17,355 --> 00:36:24,268 I don’t have to make a painting that makes sense to you as long it makes sense to me. That is not sharing ideas. 604 00:36:24,268 --> 00:36:26,026 If you make a painting that makes can maintain that means a lot to you, 605 00:36:26,026 --> 00:36:32,263 lover flashes cabrini yellow crossing he's just read 606 00:36:32,263 --> 00:36:35,591 All of that is projection. I can’t deal with that. 607 00:36:35,591 --> 00:36:40,028 Because they will go go unpaid if you enjoy it. That make you feel good. 608 00:36:40,028 --> 00:36:45,815 But don't come at me and said, with you frame my paintings in exhibitional. 609 00:36:45,815 --> 00:36:52,949 Because the painting you do gives everybody a different value system, i can’t see the benefit of it. 610 00:36:52,949 --> 00:36:58,845 If you tell that the world water means anything, that is a lost of communication. 611 00:36:58,845 --> 00:37:01,024 It means subject to interpretation. 612 00:37:01,024 --> 00:37:10,989 before he reached out to you doing contaminated uncontaminated water salt water, passages and water, that means something. 613 00:37:10,989 --> 00:37:18,699 But if you just talk about water, in one-way, and everybody interpreted the wrong way, you have a divided civilization. 614 00:37:18,699 --> 00:37:22,030 Why do we have if we have it in one way? We don't have that one way. 615 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:31,031 We have to have a verifiable way, not any one way. One way is god makes everything. 616 00:37:31,044 --> 00:37:35,070 A verifiable way is whose principal below if you don't wanna will keep the soil 617 00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:40,067 apiece and insects tracking down the, that is a verifiable way. 618 00:37:40,067 --> 00:37:47,154 So language has to do with verifiability. That is why they can't communicate with anybody. 619 00:37:47,154 --> 00:37:53,127 You only communicate with those people that are relevant. Conversant jk trying to be. 620 00:37:53,127 --> 00:38:00,107 If your mother says a person that oppressions guilty, i knowing that i could see in this case. 621 00:38:00,107 --> 00:38:05,194 Well, nobody is ever guilty of anything. They just have different methods that you have. 622 00:38:05,194 --> 00:38:10,159 That is very hard to accept the person is a disturber of the present. 623 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:15,307 If i had a person that was a continuist which is dead to heaven, i might say and i actually have to leave. 624 00:38:15,307 --> 00:38:19,815 I said this because i have to consider everybody there. 625 00:38:19,815 --> 00:38:22,625 A disturbing senses says that this terrorist senses an organization i don’t mean by anything you said. 626 00:38:22,625 --> 00:38:27,130 i believe i have free will know what to expect geographically i say, and i said you have to leave. 627 00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:30,027 You're avoiding my question, no i’m not. 628 00:38:30,027 --> 00:38:34,035 I have to consider, or i will consider the majority of the people. 629 00:38:34,035 --> 00:38:40,875 I would let a person eleven percent or that this is sincere, but birthday using is getting but if i don't think is agreeing with you. 630 00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:44,015 That is bringing up the oposition, as they say i don’t agree that you are building a stronger, 631 00:38:44,015 --> 00:38:49,226 i don't believe that if you build it will be stronger if you're interested queue to get it 632 00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:52,653 and how much they will show me reputable 633 00:38:52,653 --> 00:38:56,636 But they say i don't agree with him at one twenty ish shall participation 634 00:38:56,636 --> 00:39:02,062 So, participation means fundamental referential criticism. 635 00:39:02,062 --> 00:39:07,739 People don't talk about the subject, they talk about their feelings, regarding to a subject. 636 00:39:07,739 --> 00:39:09,049 Do you know how it is different? 637 00:39:09,049 --> 00:39:11,096 I don't want to get around to be live in a round city. 638 00:39:11,096 --> 00:39:14,073 But if i want to miss class today square city? 639 00:39:14,073 --> 00:39:18,073 Well, they would say mentioned one of the benefits and how do you arrive at that. 640 00:39:18,073 --> 00:39:20,044 That would be inquiry. 641 00:39:20,044 --> 00:39:24,225 When you ask questions, you have to say tell what the question is. 642 00:39:24,225 --> 00:39:29,167 Does it have a record tested question could mean anything 643 00:39:29,167 --> 00:39:37,263 So, participatory democracy is ridiculous statement. It cannot be. You can’t participate in democracy. 644 00:39:37,263 --> 00:39:40,916 But you define that term. What do you mean by that? 645 00:39:40,916 --> 00:39:45,551 And you agree with participatory democracy? And i said yes i do. 646 00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:51,295 And why don’t you take your car and go away from here? Unless you take into a budget? That would help to fix your car. 647 00:39:51,295 --> 00:39:56,044 Or that chicken that raises out, they increased the chicken to the right person feeding 648 00:39:56,044 --> 00:39:58,596 because the wrong person can participate 649 00:39:58,596 --> 00:40:04,192 now when they talk about this participatory democracy question, how would you grow more food. 650 00:40:04,192 --> 00:40:11,067 I want to participate, they don't know if the study agriculture and come back to the big time antwort 651 00:40:11,067 --> 00:40:13,426 or try something, work at it. 652 00:40:13,426 --> 00:40:19,196 I don't see anything detrimental on that, but if you do that when you talk to people. 653 00:40:19,196 --> 00:40:22,835 hit television ministry question is 654 00:40:22,835 --> 00:40:26,167 I have to, you seee? They don't even know that. 655 00:40:26,167 --> 00:40:35,077 so he's a liar finishing up a new book on semantic they've gotten there yet that language is subject to an interpretation, 656 00:40:35,077 --> 00:40:40,066 because if it is, and i fear it but you don't understand it says i want you to che had to give 657 00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:47,718 So you have to live in the bases that enables you to make more appropriate decisions. 658 00:40:47,718 --> 00:40:53,942 I would outposts the questions to Jacque and Roxanne right now. 659 00:40:53,942 --> 00:40:59,055 Okay, thanks Shawn. First question. Do you have a transitional solution for technological unemployment 660 00:40:59,055 --> 00:41:02,795 before a resource based economy can be attained? 661 00:41:02,795 --> 00:41:09,004 Have you considered the importance of getting governments on board with such a transitional idea? 662 00:41:09,004 --> 00:41:14,809 For example, decreasing working hours? Do you have a plan for a transitional government? 663 00:41:14,809 --> 00:41:21,081 No, we only have a plan for transitional resource based economy. 664 00:41:21,081 --> 00:41:25,068 Not within the system? Not within the system. 665 00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:32,226 Jack Catran stated that you grew up around four or five other intellectuals as a young man. 666 00:41:32,226 --> 00:41:35,837 What happened to these other men? 667 00:41:35,837 --> 00:41:42,713 Did they ever become socially aware or help you towards the resource based economy direction? 668 00:41:42,713 --> 00:41:51,158 To whatever extent they could, they are all now deceased. Yes. 669 00:41:51,158 --> 00:41:57,722 Well, Jacque did it for several books, trying to introduce what he could, Jack Catran. 670 00:41:57,722 --> 00:42:02,017 You surrounded yourself with some interesting individuals, like Catran, 671 00:42:02,017 --> 00:42:07,528 why did they stop being part of Sociocyberneering and the resource based economy idea? 672 00:42:07,528 --> 00:42:12,984 They never stopped, they worked at it all their lives. Yes, Jack Catran did. 673 00:42:12,984 --> 00:42:17,843 The people that Jacque really spent a lot of time with when he was younger 674 00:42:17,843 --> 00:42:25,501 are kids that he really introduced to science and aviation too. They all went into aviation, most, didn't they? 675 00:42:25,501 --> 00:42:30,011 And they worked with you in building the Trend Home, didn’t they? Yes. 676 00:42:30,011 --> 00:42:34,611 The first aluminum pre-fabricated home after WW2. Yes. 677 00:42:34,611 --> 00:42:42,485 And weren't they going to go to, at one time, you asked them all to meet you in the motto, 678 00:42:42,485 --> 00:42:47,078 That was South Pacific islands. Yes, and you thought a war was going to happen in there. 679 00:42:47,078 --> 00:42:55,086 And as I remember you asked them all to meet you there, because after the war you wanted to start a new-direction society. 680 00:42:55,086 --> 00:42:59,094 But you were the only one that showed up there, is that right? 681 00:42:59,094 --> 00:43:10,084 Yes, that is true. They weren't able to carry that out, they didn't have the money to travel out there. 682 00:43:10,084 --> 00:43:16,256 I see. In the collapse, do you think the government will use the army in the streets to keep their power, 683 00:43:16,256 --> 00:43:20,564 or do you think the army will protect the public? 684 00:43:20,564 --> 00:43:27,002 No, the army will protect the government, because that's the way they're brought up. 685 00:43:27,009 --> 00:43:33,497 The army is to serve the interests of the establishment, not the majority of people. 686 00:43:34,021 --> 00:43:43,323 As witnessed, the police spraying mace or some other object into people's eyes when they were not fighting back. 687 00:43:43,323 --> 00:43:50,002 The police serve the interests of the establishment, not the public. 688 00:43:50,002 --> 00:43:58,365 In the past, i read in an old newspaper advertisement on your website that you identified yourself as a behaviorist, 689 00:43:58,365 --> 00:44:04,020 when attending public lectures back in the 1960/1970s. 690 00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:08,027 Would you still identify yourself as a behaviorist today? 691 00:44:08,027 --> 00:44:14,122 A behaviorist? I would say it's greatly modified today. 692 00:44:14,122 --> 00:44:18,001 Yes, i believe environment shapes behavior, 693 00:44:18,001 --> 00:44:26,059 but i'm interested in the specific aspects of the environment that shape particular kinds of behavior, 694 00:44:26,059 --> 00:44:33,051 whether it be serial killers, gangsters, whatever people are, they're shaped by their sub-culture, 695 00:44:33,052 --> 00:44:36,006 the culture they're exposed to, 696 00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:40,036 and the conditions and they're exposed to. 697 00:44:40,036 --> 00:44:48,091 How useful is evolutionary psychology? Do you think there's such a thing as "evolved behaviours," 698 00:44:48,091 --> 00:44:52,065 particularly in non-verbal animals? 699 00:44:52,065 --> 00:44:57,128 I would say that that's a very difficult subject to the answer. 700 00:44:57,128 --> 00:45:06,190 I can only say that animals behave with their limited receptors to whatever extent they're receptors tell them, 701 00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:13,005 they're receptors are not sophisticated and that's why they're called primitive. 702 00:45:13,005 --> 00:45:22,069 Human being is capable of a wide range of receptors or instruments to improve their ability to function, 703 00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:32,074 such as microscopes which extend their sensitivity into realms that they themselves cannot perceive visually. 704 00:45:32,074 --> 00:45:38,797 They can use instruments. And the instruments serve as extensional devices, 705 00:45:38,797 --> 00:45:46,056 But human beings, without instruments, would be very primitive indeed. 706 00:45:46,056 --> 00:45:54,631 Also in terms of "evolved behaviors", animals really react to their environment whatever receptors they have, 707 00:45:54,631 --> 00:45:57,975 if it doesn't work well within their environment, 708 00:45:57,975 --> 00:46:00,082 whether you call them evolved or whatever, what other, whatever 709 00:46:00,082 --> 00:46:05,116 changed mechanisms or apparatus that they have, 710 00:46:05,116 --> 00:46:09,040 if it doesn't work well in their environment they die out. 711 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:15,113 So "evolved" is kind of a strange word, evolved behaviours. 712 00:46:15,113 --> 00:46:22,397 You have often said in the future the field of psychology will be replaced with behavioral science. 713 00:46:22,397 --> 00:46:29,035 That means the study of the effects of environment upon behaviour. 714 00:46:29,035 --> 00:46:34,123 To find the mechanisms that are the 715 00:46:34,123 --> 00:46:39,122 primary mechanism responsible for certain types of behavior. 716 00:46:39,122 --> 00:46:47,043 If you're brought up in a society where people have ten or fifteen wives that would be normal to your upbringing. 717 00:46:47,043 --> 00:46:50,172 If you're brought up in a society where a person has one wife, 718 00:46:50,172 --> 00:46:54,166 or if you're brought where religion dominates 719 00:46:54,166 --> 00:46:59,011 that will affect the value system of that society. 720 00:46:59,011 --> 00:47:05,027 So I'm a great believer in the effects of environment on human behaviour, 721 00:47:05,027 --> 00:47:09,152 I don't think there's a republican gene or a democratic gene. 722 00:47:09,152 --> 00:47:17,917 I think all of the genes deliver is the color of the eyes, the shape of the head, and the certain propensity, reflexes. 723 00:47:17,917 --> 00:47:23,172 Yes, all that's controlled by genes, but values are learned. 724 00:47:23,172 --> 00:47:33,090 The rest of this question is Isn't this very similar to behaviorism because behaviorism identifies the conditions which generate behavior? 725 00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:38,074 If it does that, then I'm all for it. 726 00:47:38,074 --> 00:47:43,144 Is it true that psychologists referred their patients/subjects 727 00:47:43,144 --> 00:47:46,064 to you to work on? 728 00:47:46,064 --> 00:47:51,047 Not all psychologists, some psychologists. 729 00:47:51,047 --> 00:47:52,068 also didn't 730 00:47:52,068 --> 00:47:56,029 When lawyers started coming to some of Jacque's lectures 731 00:47:56,029 --> 00:47:59,063 in the nineteen sixties or seventies, wasn't it? 732 00:47:59,063 --> 00:48:00,071 Then they brought judges 733 00:48:01,098 --> 00:48:03,099 and then the judges, 734 00:48:03,099 --> 00:48:08,041 there was one judge who worked with juveniles and instead of sending 735 00:48:08,041 --> 00:48:10,073 them to juvenile home they would send them 736 00:48:10,073 --> 00:48:13,076 to Jacque's lectures. 737 00:48:13,076 --> 00:48:16,088 Yes, that's true. 738 00:48:16,088 --> 00:48:18,059 In the book i've read, 739 00:48:18,059 --> 00:48:25,160 a New York Times reporter attended your lectures in the 70's, he then went on to commit suicide, 740 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:32,194 is that because he could not handle this information, became depressed, etc.? 741 00:48:32,194 --> 00:48:38,140 No. Some newspaper reporter came to a couple of my seminars 742 00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:43,341 and he said, "What you say makes sense, if I can't get that out I'll kill myself. 743 00:48:43,341 --> 00:48:46,025 I believe I can get that out; 744 00:48:46,025 --> 00:48:51,099 I believe that what you say makes so much sense that people can be turned around." 745 00:48:51,099 --> 00:48:55,167 Well, he was turned around, but he was unable to turn people around. 746 00:48:55,167 --> 00:49:02,267 and he killed himself because he really believed that i had the answers to questions 747 00:49:02,267 --> 00:49:09,171 and that all he had to do is write about it, and people would understand it. But it's not that simple. 748 00:49:09,171 --> 00:49:12,046 right in there are other reasons why did that i couldn't imagine i'll be working 749 00:49:12,046 --> 00:49:18,154 He was not well enough equipped to handle that problem. 750 00:49:18,154 --> 00:49:25,047 Have you ever read B.F. Skinner's novel called 'Walden Two', and if so what are your thoughts on it? 751 00:49:25,047 --> 00:49:28,045 It was insufficient because the methods 752 00:49:28,078 --> 00:49:32,043 of building cities, the methods of dealing with problems 753 00:49:32,043 --> 00:49:37,179 were are not sufficient, or sophisticated enough. 754 00:49:37,179 --> 00:49:41,083 There's another book that Jack Catran 755 00:49:41,096 --> 00:49:45,008 yet when it is our patrons one of the 756 00:49:45,008 --> 00:49:49,075 guys that uh... one are not the book training here 757 00:49:49,075 --> 00:49:52,002 that you tried to talk about resource based economy 758 00:49:52,002 --> 00:49:54,092 wrote called 'Walden Three' 759 00:49:54,092 --> 00:49:57,034 which was kind of chaotic but 760 00:49:57,034 --> 00:49:58,063 had a lot of 761 00:49:58,063 --> 00:50:00,074 references to Jacque's work and the 762 00:50:00,074 --> 00:50:06,092 main character was taken after Jacque and talked about a city in the future. 763 00:50:06,092 --> 00:50:10,086 I have heard that you have produced some books for publications for sociocyberneering 764 00:50:10,086 --> 00:50:14,002 members back in the 1970's. 765 00:50:14,002 --> 00:50:18,061 Would it be possible for you to make these freely available online 766 00:50:18,061 --> 00:50:21,013 for us to read, please? 767 00:50:21,013 --> 00:50:25,007 I would say that the book 'The Best That Money Can't Buy' 768 00:50:25,007 --> 00:50:27,052 is an updated version 769 00:50:27,052 --> 00:50:28,071 of those books. 770 00:50:28,071 --> 00:50:35,013 Yes, it took some of that information in there and added more. 771 00:50:35,013 --> 00:50:37,046 Is there anymore news on when 772 00:50:37,046 --> 00:50:42,044 there may be new lecture audio material from the 1970's available 773 00:50:42,044 --> 00:50:44,048 at your online store, 774 00:50:44,048 --> 00:50:48,059 we've been waiting a little while for this? 775 00:50:48,059 --> 00:50:52,006 We just got forty tapes from 776 00:50:52,006 --> 00:50:53,027 Karl Geisler 777 00:50:53,027 --> 00:50:57,008 who used to go to the lectures, you'll hear him with a german accent. 778 00:50:57,008 --> 00:51:02,053 He found forty more tapes; so for the last several weeks we've been pulling them in. 779 00:51:02,053 --> 00:51:03,089 Today, we're just 780 00:51:03,089 --> 00:51:07,062 changing the tapes because several of them that broke. 781 00:51:07,062 --> 00:51:12,051 We're working on those now, 782 00:51:12,051 --> 00:51:16,016 we're pulling them into new cases and putting them into the computer. So we've pulled in about 783 00:51:16,016 --> 00:51:19,085 forty hours, so that's the first step. We have to put it all into the 784 00:51:19,085 --> 00:51:21,086 computer, but we are working on it. 785 00:51:21,086 --> 00:51:24,033 I can't say when exactly we'll have it, 786 00:51:24,033 --> 00:51:28,013 but maybe we'll make them into mp3s or something more accessible I'm not 787 00:51:28,013 --> 00:51:31,010 sure. 788 00:51:31,010 --> 00:51:36,033 Have you ever been tempted to change the system from within? 789 00:51:36,033 --> 00:51:37,053 No, I never have been 790 00:51:37,053 --> 00:51:39,082 tempted to change the system 791 00:51:39,082 --> 00:51:41,099 from within. 792 00:51:41,099 --> 00:51:43,030 I attempt to 793 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:44,088 inform people 794 00:51:44,088 --> 00:51:46,043 as to the effects, 795 00:51:46,043 --> 00:51:49,002 the prime factors of our society 796 00:51:49,002 --> 00:51:51,060 and the harmful effects 797 00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:55,060 of the free enterprise system. 798 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:57,003 I don't think there is a step 799 00:51:57,003 --> 00:52:00,010 within this system to bring it 800 00:52:00,010 --> 00:52:04,059 without problems into a resource based economy. There's no openings for that 801 00:52:04,059 --> 00:52:08,083 within this system. It requires a different value system, 802 00:52:08,083 --> 00:52:10,097 a different approach. 803 00:52:10,097 --> 00:52:12,050 This system will forever 804 00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:15,037 uphold this system until it just crashes 805 00:52:15,037 --> 00:52:19,034 and the examples of that are all over. 806 00:52:19,034 --> 00:52:24,058 Yes, all over the world not just America. 807 00:52:24,058 --> 00:52:26,098 Please explain why socialism 808 00:52:26,098 --> 00:52:30,060 is not a good transitional tool. 809 00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:33,062 I never said it was not a good translation tool, 810 00:52:33,062 --> 00:52:36,051 it's not the best, it's not updated. 811 00:52:36,051 --> 00:52:38,013 Socialism was great 812 00:52:38,013 --> 00:52:39,071 when it was designed, 813 00:52:39,071 --> 00:52:43,041 but today we have much better systems, 814 00:52:43,041 --> 00:52:45,017 much more effective 815 00:52:45,017 --> 00:52:49,046 to enhance the lives of people in a much faster way 816 00:52:49,046 --> 00:52:51,092 then the old-time socialist. 817 00:52:51,092 --> 00:52:54,098 Socialism was concerned with the working class. 818 00:52:54,098 --> 00:52:57,034 We're concerned with knowledge, 819 00:52:57,034 --> 00:52:59,000 and who were concerned with 820 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,046 surpassing the need for work, 821 00:53:01,046 --> 00:53:02,028 in other words, 822 00:53:02,028 --> 00:53:06,078 we think machines could replace jobs that are monotonous and boring or 823 00:53:06,078 --> 00:53:08,006 dangerous 824 00:53:08,006 --> 00:53:12,026 that people think in terms of what to earn a living 825 00:53:12,026 --> 00:53:15,059 in the future you don't need to think in terms of work 826 00:53:15,059 --> 00:53:18,015 you'll be provided for 827 00:53:18,015 --> 00:53:19,028 and you can study 828 00:53:19,028 --> 00:53:22,076 anything you want to study in school. 829 00:53:22,076 --> 00:53:25,013 So i would say that most jobs 830 00:53:25,013 --> 00:53:28,028 will be phased out, 831 00:53:28,028 --> 00:53:30,047 maturity um... 832 00:53:30,047 --> 00:53:32,017 who'll be fatal 833 00:53:32,017 --> 00:53:33,092 neglecting her abilities are 834 00:53:33,092 --> 00:53:39,030 most of the early professions will be phased out. 835 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:42,067 Why didn't you take the opportunity to make money 836 00:53:42,067 --> 00:53:44,084 and then change the world 837 00:53:44,084 --> 00:53:46,083 with that money? 838 00:53:46,083 --> 00:53:48,001 Because then they would say, 839 00:53:48,001 --> 00:53:50,031 "Well, that guy's a son of a bitch! 840 00:53:50,031 --> 00:53:52,032 He became a millionaire 841 00:53:52,032 --> 00:53:55,000 and then now he talks against the system. 842 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,049 I don't trust him." 843 00:53:57,049 --> 00:54:00,026 Actually, Jacque did work within the system 844 00:54:00,026 --> 00:54:04,042 a lot when he was younger had many different inventions and ideas and 845 00:54:04,042 --> 00:54:07,080 just because you have good ideas that are better than what's out there does 846 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,023 not mean it will take-on and make a lot of money with them. 847 00:54:11,023 --> 00:54:13,087 There's a lot of tremendous inventors 848 00:54:13,087 --> 00:54:17,091 that didn't get anywhere in the system for various reasons 849 00:54:17,091 --> 00:54:20,002 but whatever money Jacque did make 850 00:54:20,002 --> 00:54:23,042 we always turned it back into making more products and making 851 00:54:23,042 --> 00:54:25,011 the research center and 852 00:54:25,011 --> 00:54:30,020 perpetuating these ideas and introducing them others. 853 00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:35,045 Why could you not turn your own brother to these ideas? Why did he go into acting 854 00:54:35,045 --> 00:54:37,013 instead? 855 00:54:37,013 --> 00:54:41,010 Because i wasn't skilled enough to reach him. 856 00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:45,091 In those days, you know that we're talking about forty, fifty, sixty 857 00:54:45,091 --> 00:54:46,089 years ago, 858 00:54:46,089 --> 00:54:50,026 i was not able to reach him 859 00:54:50,026 --> 00:54:52,034 i really tried 860 00:54:52,034 --> 00:54:54,065 i could not reach him at the time 861 00:54:54,065 --> 00:54:59,036 i was not as skilled. You were the younger brother too. How much older was him to you? 862 00:54:59,036 --> 00:55:06,036 About five, six years older. 863 00:55:06,057 --> 00:55:10,021 What's the relation between Jacque and Roxanne? 864 00:55:10,021 --> 00:55:13,028 We've been living together and working for 865 00:55:13,028 --> 00:55:15,090 since 1976. 866 00:55:15,090 --> 00:55:17,009 Yes. 867 00:55:17,009 --> 00:55:18,007 We relate 868 00:55:18,007 --> 00:55:20,085 fairly well in most areas, 869 00:55:20,085 --> 00:55:23,096 and i would say if that continues, 870 00:55:23,096 --> 00:55:25,087 which it will. 871 00:55:25,087 --> 00:55:29,071 And i'm glad that Roxanne has been an enormous help. 872 00:55:29,071 --> 00:55:31,082 Without Roxanne, i don't think 873 00:55:31,082 --> 00:55:34,028 we could have gotten our books published 874 00:55:34,028 --> 00:55:36,061 or most of our films made. 875 00:55:36,061 --> 00:55:39,036 She's very good at film production 876 00:55:39,036 --> 00:55:41,000 and she's very good at 877 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,096 translating. 878 00:55:42,096 --> 00:55:46,034 We pretty much worked on just about everything together 879 00:55:46,034 --> 00:55:49,064 and mostly it was a learning process for me learning 880 00:55:49,064 --> 00:55:54,013 how to make models. Jacque taught me how to do technical illustration 881 00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:55,059 which transferred to 882 00:55:55,059 --> 00:55:59,090 fine arts, taught me how to do model making and i learned on his designs which was really fascinating. 883 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,010 Then i help make a living with that to help support this project 884 00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:11,019 and then i worked on them with everything else that i could help with. 885 00:56:11,019 --> 00:56:17,032 When people ask if we're married i say, "We're as good as or better than married." 886 00:56:17,032 --> 00:56:19,098 Looking backwards in time, 887 00:56:19,098 --> 00:56:24,026 if you could change certain paths you made in life, 888 00:56:24,026 --> 00:56:25,093 what are some of the things 889 00:56:25,093 --> 00:56:29,031 that you would have done differently? 890 00:56:29,031 --> 00:56:30,069 I can't answer that, 891 00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:33,045 i don't know. 892 00:56:33,045 --> 00:56:36,087 Is there anything you regret? 893 00:56:36,087 --> 00:56:39,032 No, nothing, everything i learned 894 00:56:39,032 --> 00:56:41,096 from all of my experiences 895 00:56:41,096 --> 00:56:45,097 i've learned something useful. 896 00:56:45,097 --> 00:56:50,034 In your lectures you questioned the role of emotions and machines, emotions 897 00:56:50,034 --> 00:56:56,034 may be used in machines 898 00:56:56,034 --> 00:56:57,046 for their algorithm 899 00:56:57,046 --> 00:56:59,046 to process more 900 00:56:59,046 --> 00:57:00,087 variants 901 00:57:00,087 --> 00:57:02,021 in its 902 00:57:02,021 --> 00:57:03,023 evolving 903 00:57:03,023 --> 00:57:05,007 intelligence? 904 00:57:05,007 --> 00:57:05,060 I would say 905 00:57:05,060 --> 00:57:07,000 emotions 906 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,042 are the feelings you have about things. 907 00:57:11,042 --> 00:57:14,092 It's what you do about it that counts. 908 00:57:14,092 --> 00:57:17,025 If you feel that war is terrible 909 00:57:17,025 --> 00:57:20,072 and you do nothing to try to put and end to it, 910 00:57:20,072 --> 00:57:24,051 i would say it's useless. 911 00:57:24,051 --> 00:57:29,014 We don't put emotions in machines because we don't know how. 912 00:57:29,014 --> 00:57:31,050 No machines have 913 00:57:31,050 --> 00:57:33,010 ambition. 914 00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:35,080 No machines feel good. 915 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,098 They just produce a lot of goods and services 916 00:57:38,098 --> 00:57:40,081 and they have no feelings 917 00:57:40,081 --> 00:57:42,065 nor are they concerned 918 00:57:42,065 --> 00:57:46,079 whether they produce cannons, submarines, bombers, 919 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,041 or respiratory systems. 920 00:57:49,041 --> 00:57:51,078 The machines has no feelings 921 00:57:51,078 --> 00:57:54,046 and the machines cannot have feelings, 922 00:57:54,046 --> 00:57:57,045 they don't even know how to put feelings into the machines. 923 00:57:57,045 --> 00:57:59,074 Although you can make the machine 924 00:57:59,074 --> 00:58:05,038 that would verbalize as though it had feelings, it would be like a movie actor 925 00:58:05,038 --> 00:58:10,040 acting the part but it really don't feel. 926 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,036 We don't really want 927 00:58:11,036 --> 00:58:15,073 machines to have emotions, we want them to take on action pattern. 928 00:58:15,073 --> 00:58:18,044 We don't want people sitting there emoting 929 00:58:18,044 --> 00:58:19,009 and being emotional 930 00:58:19,009 --> 00:58:23,076 without doing something about it. 931 00:58:23,076 --> 00:58:25,001 Jacque, have you ever read 932 00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:30,016 Jack Catran's book 'Is They're Intelligent Life on Earth?' 933 00:58:30,016 --> 00:58:32,016 Yes i have. 934 00:58:32,016 --> 00:58:36,014 I think it's sort of a round-about way of talking about things, 935 00:58:36,014 --> 00:58:39,082 i would be more direct than Catran would. 936 00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:41,068 Catran always kept up, 937 00:58:41,068 --> 00:58:45,035 he spoke with Jacque quite regularly and always sent Jacque 938 00:58:45,035 --> 00:58:49,054 his new books and things. 939 00:58:49,054 --> 00:58:52,013 How do you increase interest toward life, 940 00:58:52,013 --> 00:58:56,093 towards some activity, towards learning and researching? 941 00:58:56,093 --> 00:59:00,005 Well, you have to understand the person you're working with. 942 00:59:00,005 --> 00:59:01,001 Then you have to 943 00:59:01,001 --> 00:59:02,053 design the system 944 00:59:02,053 --> 00:59:06,011 so it fits their background. 945 00:59:06,011 --> 00:59:12,045 You have a design the approach to that person based on their background. 946 00:59:12,045 --> 00:59:16,026 This person might be talking about himself or herself, 947 00:59:16,026 --> 00:59:17,042 i don't know if it's 948 00:59:17,042 --> 00:59:20,078 within oneself. 949 00:59:20,078 --> 00:59:24,000 What age do you hope to live to? 950 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,016 I don't think about that. 951 00:59:26,016 --> 00:59:29,010 I just go on living. 952 00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:32,056 I may die tomorrow, but I don't know. 953 00:59:32,056 --> 00:59:35,058 I don't concern myself with that. 954 00:59:35,058 --> 00:59:40,023 This questions, how do you justify the fancy sprinkler in the water? 955 00:59:40,023 --> 00:59:45,003 i think this person might be talking about the, 956 00:59:45,003 --> 00:59:48,000 this is the only place i can think of a fancy sprinkler, 957 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000 one of the house computer rendering drawings, 958 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,024 there's a jet of water in the front of the house? 959 00:59:54,024 --> 00:59:57,000 Oh, that will be a filtering system. 960 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:03,003 Some filtering now found water filters 961 01:00:03,003 --> 01:00:08,044 there are no fountains for just luxury or to amuse people. 962 01:00:08,044 --> 01:00:11,042 Everything in the future will have a function. 963 01:00:11,042 --> 01:00:15,000 So, if you see a waterfall, it's part of the water treatment plant. 964 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,000 help fish on there too, yes, 965 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000 the water, yes 966 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,073 Have you ever turned around a fundamentalist Christian and how? 967 01:00:26,086 --> 01:00:31,078 Well, first of all, I approached them with the Bible. 968 01:00:31,078 --> 01:00:35,068 By approaching them with the Bible it says in the Bible, 969 01:00:35,068 --> 01:00:40,063 at least the ten commandments, "Thou shall not kill. 970 01:00:40,063 --> 01:00:45,000 You shall not judge other people otherwise you will be judged," 971 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,000 and i point out all the statements 972 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,059 of the Ten Commandments and how far we've come from it. 973 01:00:51,059 --> 01:00:54,000 When we get mad at another country, 974 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,000 we bomb the hell out of them, 975 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,072 and we kill and we all join in that. 976 01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:03,000 And the churches bless the armies and they bless war tanks. 977 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,081 Particularly the Catholic Church sprinkles holy water on the war tanks, 978 01:01:07,081 --> 01:01:13,013 and the Catholics in Italy bless the war tanks fighting Americans, 979 01:01:13,013 --> 01:01:18,000 and the Catholics in America bless the war tanks in America. 980 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,000 I would say that the church seems to conform 981 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000 to social institutions 982 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,041 if they did not conform they would be poorly attended, 983 01:01:28,041 --> 01:01:31,072 and the church do not conform 984 01:01:31,072 --> 01:01:35,073 is not advocated as a method of social deliverance. 985 01:01:35,073 --> 01:01:39,000 And what method do you used to turn around fundamentalists? 986 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:44,078 The Bible itself. Show them that it's almost impossible to live 987 01:01:44,078 --> 01:01:49,093 according to the teachings of Christ in the monetary system. 988 01:01:51,081 --> 01:01:55,015 Ok, so in the monetary system, I had my finger off it for a minute 989 01:01:58,007 --> 01:02:00,001 And the fat man on the left book, he said 990 01:02:00,001 --> 01:02:03,029 in love grandma pins 991 01:02:03,029 --> 01:02:08,074 we actually never read the fat man on the left book 992 01:02:08,074 --> 01:02:11,063 when they is a tremendous researcher 993 01:02:11,063 --> 01:02:12,090 worden shocks 994 01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:15,066 wiki page and he found that 995 01:02:15,066 --> 01:02:19,053 but anyway it said your love grandma pins this is true i have no i can't help 996 01:02:19,053 --> 01:02:21,013 i have read about them 997 01:02:21,013 --> 01:02:23,050 and i'm starting to do with me 998 01:02:23,050 --> 01:02:26,035 yet i think that we have the grandmother recipients 999 01:02:26,035 --> 01:02:29,003 we are not going 1000 01:02:29,003 --> 01:02:35,053 do you think the government banks will forgive the debt 1001 01:02:35,053 --> 01:02:37,063 mickey kantor operate mostly create 1002 01:02:41,004 --> 01:02:45,034 what shocks primordial stew 1003 01:02:45,034 --> 01:02:48,076 you know we always talk about the people come into in bringing pipe primordial 1004 01:02:48,076 --> 01:02:52,021 slime wyndham logs and let me know 1005 01:02:52,021 --> 01:02:54,077 qualcomm up on on your son 1006 01:02:54,077 --> 01:02:57,004 they drank some of the slime with them 1007 01:02:57,004 --> 01:03:01,054 meaning that background than expected 1008 01:03:01,054 --> 01:03:06,088 persons asking what your primordial slime 1009 01:03:06,088 --> 01:03:12,044 company conquerors initially 1010 01:03:12,044 --> 01:03:16,091 delusions of prime motivators for social change 1011 01:03:16,091 --> 01:03:20,090 human suffering com 1012 01:03:24,063 --> 01:03:26,032 okay i guess that's it for now 1013 01:03:26,032 --> 01:03:27,002 thank you very 1014 01:03:27,002 --> 01:03:29,041 too much for the opportunity to express steve's 1015 01:03:31,059 --> 01:03:35,027 you know we appreciate your questions and really good 1016 01:03:35,027 --> 01:03:41,026 next week if all goes well we will talk to you then thanks everyone pre-trial 1017 01:03:42,066 --> 01:03:47,052 thank you all doing a yes banks the gamut from on my hand for 1018 01:03:47,052 --> 01:03:49,076 for everything everybody else is doing tremendous help 1019 01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:57,005 okay except in the room 1020 01:03:57,005 --> 01:03:59,053 okay so instead of the seminar 1021 01:03:59,053 --> 01:04:01,088 sunday recuperated doesn't grow