[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For years Carter hesitated to\Ncompose a work, a concerto, Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.00,0:00:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for flute because he believed the flute Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.00,0:00:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could not 'bring out the sharp attacks'\Nhe favoured in his compositions. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.00,0:00:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, he's written a flute concerto after all. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.00,0:00:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Emmanuel Pahud gave the\Nwork its world premiere Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance in September 2008 Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Jerusalem Chamber Music Festival. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.00,0:00:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Emmanuel Pahud, what kind\Nof a work did Carter Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.00,0:00:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compose for you? Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.07,0:00:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, when one is confronted\Nwith a composition that in 13 minutes Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.00,0:00:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,summarizes 100 years Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.00,0:00:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus perspectives looking\Nback as well as forwards, Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.00,0:00:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the point of view of Elliott Carter. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.00,0:00:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a daunting task one is faced with Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.00,0:01:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and looking at such music scores\Nopens incredible worlds. Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.00,0:01:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's unbelievable how much one can define\Nas a performer while sitting at a desk Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.00,0:01:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just by trying out the piece Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.00,0:01:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on one's instrument and\Nreading the score Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.00,0:01:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but far more in the\Ndialogue, the connection, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.00,0:01:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between the solo instrument\Nand the orchestra Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.00,0:01:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what worlds get opened up there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.00,0:01:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this concerto, you recognize\Nright at the start Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.03,0:01:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the flute suddenly fills the room Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.08,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an entire cloud of\Nsounds, like sequins in the air. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These sounds are then\Nrepeated by the orchestra Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.00,0:01:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and alternately by different\Ngroups of instruments Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.00,0:01:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that react to each other and I too am Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.00,0:01:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved at this point and\Noccasionally play sounds Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.00,0:01:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, in contrast to the sounds\Nbeing played by other instruments Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.00,0:02:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are picked up and\Nemphasized by the orchestra. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.04,0:02:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, the notes played\Nby the solo instrument, Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.00,0:02:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the flute, are then\Nsustained by the orchestra Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.05,0:02:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a kind of sound relief\Nand from these sounds a harmony builds Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.00,0:02:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and over and above this harmony,\Na solo flute voice develops Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.00,0:02:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which leads to a wonderful Cantilena\Nin the second part of the piece. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.06,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The piece is called a concerto\Nfor flute and orchestra, Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.00,0:02:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I would prefer to\Ndescribe it as a nocturne Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.00,0:02:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although it has the form of a concerto. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.00,0:02:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's one long piece of music\Nthat's clearly divided Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.00,0:02:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,structurally into four\Ndifferent movements. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.00,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as with a symphony,\Nwith the first part Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then a middle, slower part, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.00,0:02:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you could say is more of a song Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.00,0:02:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then a third part where\Nthe cadence is free Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.00,0:02:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the flute starts out alone Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.00,0:02:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is joined by other instruments,\Nmainly the drum group Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.00,0:03:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in the end a finale marked\Nby a great deal of virtuosity Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.08,0:03:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only from the flute Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.05,0:03:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also from the violins\Nand the other instruments of the orchestra. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What Elliott Carter borrowed\Nfrom Stravinsky Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.00,0:03:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was his decades-long intensive\Npreoccupation with rhythm. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.00,0:03:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He not only wrote essays\Non the subject but Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.00,0:03:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of his work reflects\Nthis focus on rhythm. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.00,0:03:23.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it like in the Flute Concerto? Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.09,0:03:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It isn't nearly so difficult from\Nthe point of view of rhythm Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.04,0:03:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in his earlier works Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.00,0:03:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works from the 1970s and 80s when\Nhe's already well over 70 years of age. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.00,0:03:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The works are marked\Nby an enormous level of complexity Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.00,0:03:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with age he seems to have\Nacquired a certain wisdom Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.00,0:03:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inasmuch as he played with\Ncomplex rhythms a lot Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, for example a duet\Nfor flute and clarinet, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.00,0:03:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called 'Esprit Rude, Esprit Doux' Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.00,0:04:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning 'Rough Spirit, Kind Spirit' Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.00,0:04:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this piece was composed for\NPierre Boulez sixtieth birthday. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.00,0:04:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this piece there are\Njust the two instruments Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.00,0:04:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they may never play together. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.00,0:04:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The piece is very very fast, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.06,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when the clarinet plays\Nfive notes in a row Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.00,0:04:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the flute only plays four... or six and Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.00,0:04:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other way around as\Nwell, the entire time Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.00,0:04:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and during a performance\Nif you hear two sounds Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.00,0:04:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,played together then the\Nperformance has failed. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.09,0:04:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's entirely different than playing Mozart Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.03,0:04:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Beethoven, where\Nyou hear immediately Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.01,0:04:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a mistake has been\Nmade when it's not together. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.08,0:04:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case it's just the opposite,\Nwhich offers an interesting perspective Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.01,0:04:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it leads to the oddity that\Nwhen a sound finally comes together Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.00,0:04:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the audience or the\Nmusicians playing think Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.00,0:04:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'finally' it's alright after all Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.00,0:04:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but no, it's actually wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.00,0:05:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of that in the Flute Concerto\Nnor in the Piano Concerto, the Dialogues. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.00,0:05:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's well defined who has the lead role,\Nthe piano or the flute, Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.00,0:05:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the orchestra is in constant dialogue, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.00,0:05:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is, we react to one\Nanother using the same material. Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.00,0:05:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rhythmic complexity is there during\Nthe entire development of the piece. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.08,0:05:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It appears in many different forms. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.00,0:05:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Elliott Carter, unlike many other\Ncomposers of the younger generation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.00,0:05:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely rejects special effects. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.00,0:05:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you can get a very\Nsweet tone from the flute Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.00,0:05:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also very ugly sounds. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:05:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or very windy or a very pizzicato-like sound\Nusing the tongue to make a popping sound. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.00,0:05:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or a clapping type of sound,\Na percussive effect. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.00,0:06:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have a lot of possibilities for effects Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.03,0:06:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can breathe or\Nblow into the instrument Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that create other kinds noises,\Nnot to mention sounds. Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.02,0:06:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's none of that with Elliott Carter. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.04,0:06:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He uses the flute... after\Nthe opening of the concerto Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.00,0:06:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is quite scattered almost chaotic Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.00,0:06:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this chaos slowly\Norganizes itself into a kind of Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.00,0:06:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,musical language for all\Nthe performers on the stage. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.00,0:06:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And afterward there comes an almost\Nneo-impressionistic musical language, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.00,0:06:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is very suited to the flute, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.05,0:06:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially since Debussy's\Norchestral works Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.06,0:06:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Ravel's orchestral works\Nwhich have helped audiences Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.62,0:06:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognize the flute as\Nthat type of instrument. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.04,0:06:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the intermission, we will hear the Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.00,0:06:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Concerto for Piano and\NEnsemble, 'Dialogues'. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.00,0:06:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was premiered in\NLondon in January 2004 Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.00,0:07:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this evening's soloist also\Nperformed that world premiere. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.00,0:07:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will be performing with the\Norchestra, playing the flute, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.00,0:07:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you are familiar with the work. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.00,0:07:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The works are very similar in\Nlength and have a similar Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.00,0:07:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ensemble of instruments,\Nperhaps a little smaller. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.00,0:07:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What other similarities do\Nyou see in these two pieces? Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.00,0:07:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These pieces are.....\Nimmediately recognizable Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.00,0:07:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as works by the same composer...A. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and B. - they are in the same musical style. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.00,0:07:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Elliott Carter doesn't use any exotic Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.10,0:07:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instruments such as\Ndrums, harp or keyboards Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.06,0:07:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the piano piece... because\Nhe already has a wonderful Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.00,0:07:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,percussion instrument, the piano itself. Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.09,0:07:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After all, it is hammers that\Nmake the sound on the strings, Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.00,0:07:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and depending how softly\Nor strongly the notes Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.06,0:07:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are struck an unbelievable\Npalette of sounds unfolds. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes it sounds like Chopin\Nand sometimes it sounds like Bernstein. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.00,0:08:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a Cantilena, but it\Nisn't heard so much in the Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.00,0:08:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solo Flute voice but rather\Nfrom the English Horn Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.00,0:08:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performed beautifully by Albrecht Mayer. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.06,0:08:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this Dialogue takes place\Nbetween Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.00,0:08:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a solo instrument and the orchestra Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.00,0:08:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but naturally with other ingredients. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.00,0:08:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since a piano is not dealt\Nwith as a solo instrument Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.00,0:08:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the same manner as a flute. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.04,0:08:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a result the entire cosmos,\Nthe entire constellation is there Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.00,0:08:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but is seen from an entirely\Nother point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.00,0:08:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is as if you were to see the sky\Nin Berlin at midnight and then Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.09,0:08:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few hours later from Sydney. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.00,0:09:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You would see different constellations\Nthat belong to the same cosmos, Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.00,0:09:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you would be looking at them\Nfrom another perspective. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.07,0:09:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1990 Elliott Carter composed a\NTrio with the beautiful name Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.00,0:09:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Con Leggerezza Pensosa',\Ncontemplative lightness. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of the works from\Nthe last two decades Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:09:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Carter's oeuvre merit\Nsimilar-sounding names. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.00,0:09:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What about the two works that\Nwe'll be hearing this evening? Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.00,0:09:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lightness and thoughtfulness...\Nbut both together and linked Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.00,0:09:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an absolute key to\Nunderstanding these works Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.00,0:09:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as to performing these works. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.00,0:09:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a composer's note in the score Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.00,0:09:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'giocoso' meaning 'playful'. Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.00,0:09:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is another 'legerissimo' note\Ntoward the end of the Flute Concerto. Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.00,0:09:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These notes recur quite often in the works. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.00,0:10:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if to indicate a baroque\Ntreatment, a light and Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.00,0:10:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decorative way of playing the piece. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.08,0:10:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an indicator of the playful way\Nthe composer sees his work. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.00,0:10:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not taken too seriously,\Nand not to be made too important. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is naturally a sign of great maturity. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I will try, even with my\N'relatively' advanced years Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.00,0:10:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to adhere to the composer's notes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.00,0:10:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You played the world\Npremiere of these pieces Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.06,0:10:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now you're doing\Ntheir European premiere. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.06,0:10:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You premiered the Flute Concerto\Nof Marc-AndrĂŠ Dalbavie in 2006. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.07,0:10:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just two examples of your commitment\Nto contemporary classical music. Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.00,0:10:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it that draws you\Nso much to this music? Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.00,0:10:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The music of Johann\NSebastian Bach, of his sons, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.04,0:10:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Mozart, Schubert and Beethoven Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.02,0:11:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was at one time very\Nnew and revolutionary. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.07,0:11:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were interested in new instruments. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.00,0:11:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has always been the same. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.00,0:11:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it continues to be that way today. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.00,0:11:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The difference is that the composers also Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.00,0:11:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performed their works on\Nthe piano or violin, or viola Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.00,0:11:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or improvising during\Na concert performance Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.00,0:11:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then wrote out\Ntheir compositions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.00,0:11:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ease with which a Mozart, for example,\Nin just one night in Prague Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.00,0:11:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,composed his 'Don Giovanni' Overture\Njust shortly before the dress rehearsal Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.00,0:11:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that is reflected in the Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.00,0:11:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hyperactivity of a\Ncomposer like Elliott Carter. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.00,0:11:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe if people had\Ncomplete freedom of choice Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.03,0:11:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would always take the works of Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.08,0:12:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matthias Pintscher, Elliott Carter \Nor Pierre Boulez Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.00,0:12:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or Marc-AndrĂŠ Dalbavie \Ncompose for example. Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.00,0:12:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really hope that in 250 or 300 years Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.00,0:12:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people will think about their\Nworks the way we think about Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.07,0:12:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the works of Mozart or Bach. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.07,0:12:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That what the composers want to\Nsay with their works today Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.00,0:12:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may be seen as visionary,\Nand can't be understood Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.00,0:12:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without some explanation. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.00,0:12:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you do want a kind of guide. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.07,0:12:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This language has become established Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.00,0:12:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is fully integrated in the\Nmusical language of the classical world Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.00,0:12:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the natural further development\Nof the musical language of Bach or Mozart Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.00,0:12:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Schubert, Brahms, Mahler, Berg, Weber,\Nand today... Carter. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.00,0:12:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're playing a new score that Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.00,0:13:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one else ever played before\Nyou, since it is a world premiere, Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.00,0:13:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there any particular\Ndifference to the manner Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.00,0:13:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which you prepare\Ncompared with 'old' works? Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.02,0:13:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely, when you discover a new work, Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.03,0:13:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's really like going\Nsomewhere you've never been. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.01,0:13:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have no idea when the ground\Nmight fall away beneath your feet, Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.07,0:13:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how the different performers\Nreact to one another. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.01,0:13:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there any kind of a cushion\Nbetween the instruments? Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.00,0:13:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't know if you'll get the feeling\Nof being attacked around the next corner. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.00,0:13:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to be careful, especially \Non the lookout and respectful. Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.00,0:13:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But once you've completely\Nworked your way Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.08,0:13:40.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the piece for the first time Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.05,0:13:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you begin to review the piece\Nfor the second time, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.06,0:13:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a little like going into a museum\Nand seeing a new work hanging there. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.00,0:13:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was never hanging in that room\Nbefore and now it's there. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.05,0:13:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The room feels completely different\Nand you are initially irritated. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.02,0:14:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then you look at the work a little more\Nclosely and get used to the new work Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.02,0:14:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you notice the texture of\Nthe work, how it's put together. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.07,0:14:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And taking a few steps back\Nyou look at the work from different angles. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.03,0:14:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you notice 'aha, there's this aspect\Nor that one...' this surface, this material. Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.04,0:14:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's exactly how we approach\Na new musical work. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.00,0:14:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the analysis of the work\Ntakes on a form, a structure of Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.07,0:14:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one has to try to find the key Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.01,0:14:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to how the work is put together\Nit's like sentence structure Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.00,0:14:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order that it makes sense Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.00,0:14:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all words following one anther\Nthat make sense in some way Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.05,0:14:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's our job as performers\Nto try to understand the composition Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.04,0:14:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preferably without a\Nphone call to the composer. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.06,0:14:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I was about to ask, Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.06,0:14:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the advantage of working on\Npieces from living composers Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.00,0:14:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is naturally that you\Ncan ask composers questions. Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.00,0:14:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it help to talk with the composer? Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.00,0:15:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't like too many influences\Nwhen I'm preparing a new work. Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.00,0:15:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When a composer has reacted\Nto a suggestion to create a piece, Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.00,0:15:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or he approaches us himself\Nwith a piece he's composed Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.00,0:15:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's already quite a step. Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.00,0:15:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, then you have two \Ndifferent types of work, Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.00,0:15:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the creator, the composer\Nmaking his piece Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.00,0:15:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the performer who plays \Nthe music or reanimates it, so to speak, Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are two very different\Nroles and I don't want Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.00,0:15:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have any limiting influence\Non creativity of the composer. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.00,0:15:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the burning idea,\Nthe cry that leads to the birth of the work, Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.00,0:15:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so very important for the whole world,\Nbut for me as a musician Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.00,0:16:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the only way I can move ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.00,0:16:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I give a commission\Nfor a work to be composed, Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.00,0:16:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tailor-made for me, then\Nno one moves ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:16:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may be a personal 'tour-de-force' that Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.00,0:16:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows off my talents but\Nit becomes self-serving, Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.00,0:16:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that isn't what musical\Ncreation is supposed to be about. Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.00,0:16:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My job is to serve the composition as best Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.00,0:16:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can understand and\Ninterpret it to the world. Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.00,0:16:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a composer needs to know that\Nas soon as he allows a work to be printed. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.00,0:16:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It belongs to the whole world and\Neveryone can play it the way they'd like. Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.01,0:16:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like a newborn that\Nbegins to make its way Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.04,0:16:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and master its own future.