1 00:00:04,616 --> 00:00:10,240 A practical Strategy for Communicating RBE Concepts by Jen Wilding 2 00:00:16,148 --> 00:00:18,646 Hi. Ok. 3 00:00:19,984 --> 00:00:22,105 By a quick show of hands. 4 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:23,986 How many people on this room have introduced somebody 5 00:00:23,986 --> 00:00:27,307 to the concept of a resource-based economic model and 6 00:00:27,307 --> 00:00:33,361 as a result you received a response of sincere gratitude from the person? 7 00:00:33,361 --> 00:00:35,991 You were told 'thank you for sharing this with me'. 8 00:00:36,576 --> 00:00:38,963 Ok good. 9 00:00:38,963 --> 00:00:42,098 Well I don't know how many of you have actually shared... 10 00:00:42,098 --> 00:00:44,392 How many of you (up) have shared this with other people? 11 00:00:44,392 --> 00:00:47,415 Ok, so not everyone has received that response. 12 00:00:47,415 --> 00:00:50,294 But hopefully I'm gonna help you out with that. 13 00:00:50,294 --> 00:00:55,333 So now, how many people may have received feedback at all 14 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:58,143 similar to this note of gratitude I'm gonna read to you? 15 00:00:59,066 --> 00:01:03,274 I just wanna thank you for posting the facebook status: 16 00:01:03,274 --> 00:01:06,595 'WAKE UP YOU IGNORANT SHEEPLES BEFORE WE ALL DIE' 17 00:01:08,103 --> 00:01:11,192 Followed by eleven exclamation points 18 00:01:11,192 --> 00:01:14,281 because if you haven't done that myself, my wife and two children 19 00:01:14,281 --> 00:01:17,392 might not have watched the fourteen youtube links 20 00:01:17,392 --> 00:01:20,829 you posted in the two hours following that and thus 21 00:01:20,829 --> 00:01:24,521 discovered this new resource-based economic paradigm, 22 00:01:24,521 --> 00:01:27,632 information that has been life-changing for us. 23 00:01:27,632 --> 00:01:31,696 I shatter to think that if your status had been typed 24 00:01:31,696 --> 00:01:33,878 into lower case letters instead of all caps, 25 00:01:33,878 --> 00:01:38,429 we might still be in the dark today about solutions that offer 26 00:01:38,429 --> 00:01:41,285 encouraging possibilities to all mankind. 27 00:01:41,285 --> 00:01:45,581 So, I don't think any of you identify with that. 28 00:01:45,581 --> 00:01:49,366 Fortunately! and this is not a real post 29 00:01:49,366 --> 00:01:53,685 but unfortunately it was modeled after some people's real posts. 30 00:01:53,685 --> 00:01:58,422 No one here I'm sure... and I bring this up as an extreme example of 31 00:01:58,422 --> 00:02:03,228 how our strategy for communicating information 32 00:02:03,228 --> 00:02:06,851 has a direct impact on wheter or not someone is open 33 00:02:06,851 --> 00:02:10,589 to considering the information you have to offer. 34 00:02:10,589 --> 00:02:17,114 And I bring this up as an extreme example to illustrate that in particular. 35 00:02:17,114 --> 00:02:20,922 And what's... even though this is nothing new 36 00:02:20,922 --> 00:02:24,800 (that the way you communicate makes a difference) 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,958 as a US coordinator one of the most frequent question 38 00:02:27,958 --> 00:02:32,035 I'm asked by people is: How do I communicate this information 39 00:02:32,035 --> 00:02:35,434 in a way that my friends, relatives and coworkers 40 00:02:35,434 --> 00:02:38,128 will be more likely to receive it? 41 00:02:38,128 --> 00:02:41,123 So, I've been invited to offer some advice to, perhaps, 42 00:02:41,123 --> 00:02:43,724 optimize your communication strategy 43 00:02:43,724 --> 00:02:47,462 which I offer to you in six parts. 44 00:02:47,462 --> 00:02:49,924 Part one is Adjusting Your Expectations 45 00:02:49,924 --> 00:02:53,035 When trying to contribute to an evolution 46 00:02:53,035 --> 00:02:56,286 you have to consider a major component that has been prevalent 47 00:02:56,286 --> 00:02:59,908 in our own existing evolution up until now 48 00:02:59,908 --> 00:03:05,109 and that is the component that humans have a history 49 00:03:05,109 --> 00:03:08,360 of exhibiting symptoms of... and that is 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,565 'Neofobia'. 51 00:03:11,565 --> 00:03:15,187 Actually not this kind, a different kind 52 00:03:15,187 --> 00:03:20,249 and by that I mean: The fear of new things or experiences 53 00:03:20,249 --> 00:03:25,334 and as a related condition, there is a related condition also called 54 00:03:25,334 --> 00:03:28,771 'The Status Quo Bias' which is very similar to that 55 00:03:28,771 --> 00:03:31,325 and so I'm sure you have experienced with people who 56 00:03:31,325 --> 00:03:34,947 are exhibiting both Neofobia and perhaps the Status Quo Bias 57 00:03:34,947 --> 00:03:38,755 So Neofobia [is] the fear of new things or experiences and 58 00:03:38,755 --> 00:03:41,658 Status Quo Bias [is] a cognitive bias for the status quo, 59 00:03:41,658 --> 00:03:45,744 in other words, people tend no to change an alredy established behaviour 60 00:03:45,744 --> 00:03:48,995 and tend to go with default programming 61 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:53,059 and traditionally this fear of new things 62 00:03:53,059 --> 00:03:56,147 is someone indigenous to our human limbic system 63 00:03:56,147 --> 00:04:00,628 which is related to our emotion and memory mind 64 00:04:00,628 --> 00:04:04,019 and has been helpful keeping us -in an evolutionary sense- 65 00:04:04,019 --> 00:04:07,269 from an early demise as a result of eating unfamiliar berries 66 00:04:07,269 --> 00:04:10,729 that might be poisonous, yet 67 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:13,164 as we are discovering 68 00:04:13,164 --> 00:04:16,418 It has been decidedly unhelpful 69 00:04:16,418 --> 00:04:20,156 when needing to update crippled socio-economic systems. 70 00:04:27,694 --> 00:04:32,579 So here are some potentials causes of neofobia 71 00:04:32,579 --> 00:04:34,808 and status quo bias. 72 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:40,079 risk aversion, regret avoidance, transactional costs 73 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:43,794 ad psychological commitment or learning curve. 74 00:04:44,456 --> 00:04:49,483 Here is an example of Neofobia as its finest in history 75 00:04:49,483 --> 00:04:52,200 and this is from an article called "Enhancing Humanity" 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,522 written by the professor Raymond Tallis, quoted 77 00:04:54,522 --> 00:04:57,610 "In Victorian times, it was anticipated that going 78 00:04:57,610 --> 00:05:01,514 through a dark tunnel in a train at high speed (48 km/h) 79 00:05:01,514 --> 00:05:04,785 would be such a shocking experience that 80 00:05:04,785 --> 00:05:08,524 people would come out the other side irreversibly damaged". 81 00:05:08,893 --> 00:05:13,493 This was an actual fear of travel by rail. 82 00:05:13,493 --> 00:05:16,331 So this is what you are working with 83 00:05:16,331 --> 00:05:19,437 and so when I say adjust your expectations 84 00:05:19,437 --> 00:05:23,454 just know that it's a natural part of humans, 85 00:05:23,454 --> 00:05:26,078 a natural part of evolution even, you know, 86 00:05:26,078 --> 00:05:29,305 to be skpectical of new things 'cause they may not be good for us. 87 00:05:29,997 --> 00:05:32,881 Knowing this challenge, how can we enhance 88 00:05:32,881 --> 00:05:36,109 our communication strategy to be more effective? 89 00:05:36,109 --> 00:05:39,545 and to answer this question we can look to other information 90 00:05:39,545 --> 00:05:42,703 about human behavior for clues. 91 00:05:42,703 --> 00:05:45,443 So I'm going to ask you this... 92 00:05:45,443 --> 00:05:50,157 Can you guess the most addictive human behaviour? 93 00:05:51,588 --> 00:05:54,778 No, it's not cigarette smoking. 94 00:05:54,778 --> 00:05:57,564 It's not eating sweets 95 00:05:57,564 --> 00:06:00,350 (although breathing is a good one I don't think it made the list) 96 00:06:00,350 --> 00:06:03,416 Drinking coffee, no. 97 00:06:04,708 --> 00:06:08,454 [Sex:] It came close 98 00:06:08,454 --> 00:06:12,402 we know showers vote. 99 00:06:13,233 --> 00:06:17,332 Being right! 100 00:06:17,732 --> 00:06:20,273 There was no formal study per se, 101 00:06:20,273 --> 00:06:22,665 it was more an informal survey of a few close friends 102 00:06:22,665 --> 00:06:25,995 but I think the results have merit in this conversation 103 00:06:25,995 --> 00:06:29,306 and I actually dare you to prove me wrong. 104 00:06:30,475 --> 00:06:34,391 So stay with me because this is leading us into part two, 105 00:06:34,391 --> 00:06:38,176 which is... 106 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:44,259 Part two is Adopt the Quality of "Brilliant" 107 00:06:44,259 --> 00:06:47,441 didn't you know you could do this? 108 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:51,388 as many of you know this is something that is desirable. 109 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:56,477 Adopting the quality of brilliant... and so... 110 00:06:56,477 --> 00:07:01,047 let's think of what that's actually comprised of. 111 00:07:03,124 --> 00:07:06,202 Maybe this is something you've heard or perhaps 112 00:07:06,202 --> 00:07:09,012 said about someone, an author or speaker 113 00:07:09,012 --> 00:07:11,780 that you have thought was brilliant: 114 00:07:11,780 --> 00:07:15,049 "This guy (or gal) is saying some of the same things 115 00:07:15,049 --> 00:07:17,975 I've been telling people for years, 116 00:07:17,975 --> 00:07:22,270 He or she puts all together so well; he or she is therefore brilliant!". 117 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:26,171 Do you see the connection? Right? 118 00:07:27,033 --> 00:07:30,096 So, if you were to go to that in your mind, 119 00:07:30,096 --> 00:07:32,719 You might had even said that about Peter Joseph 120 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:37,224 as I know many of you are perhaps here as a result of watching his movies. 121 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:39,255 I hear this said about him all the time, 122 00:07:39,255 --> 00:07:41,311 I have stated this about him at the time 123 00:07:41,311 --> 00:07:45,328 So basically it comes down to this: It really feels good to be right! 124 00:07:45,328 --> 00:07:51,306 and we tend to listen to people who make us right, basically 125 00:07:51,306 --> 00:07:56,195 who validate an aspect of our existing view of the world. 126 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:02,534 So I'm gonna talk about belief systems, our view of the world 127 00:08:02,534 --> 00:08:05,808 belief systems as a worldview. This is sort of a map 128 00:08:05,808 --> 00:08:11,032 and note the map is not the terrirory, famously. 129 00:08:11,032 --> 00:08:13,935 Since we are born we begin developing our worldview, 130 00:08:13,935 --> 00:08:17,209 how the world works, what our relationship to the world is 131 00:08:17,209 --> 00:08:20,483 and in order for us to first learn something new, 132 00:08:20,483 --> 00:08:24,198 we need to have some orientation of the new idea 133 00:08:24,198 --> 00:08:27,193 to our current worldview, our reference. 134 00:08:27,193 --> 00:08:29,655 A wise friend once told me that he'd heard 135 00:08:29,655 --> 00:08:32,395 that the ultimate sign of intelligence in a person was 136 00:08:32,395 --> 00:08:36,574 having the abbility to honestly try on another's person worldview 137 00:08:36,574 --> 00:08:40,382 a different opposing view temporarily 138 00:08:40,382 --> 00:08:44,307 without any fear or obligation to take it on as his own. 139 00:08:44,307 --> 00:08:48,417 So just trying it on and seeing how that person thinks. 140 00:08:48,417 --> 00:08:51,156 So I want you to imagine how the effort of trying on 141 00:08:51,156 --> 00:08:55,011 the worldview of others can contribute to your communication. 142 00:08:57,134 --> 00:09:01,299 So, how can you adopt this quality of brilliant? 143 00:09:01,299 --> 00:09:06,366 Well you can set out to make someone 'right' instead of make them 'wrong' 144 00:09:06,366 --> 00:09:09,547 and try to start out with agreement... 145 00:09:09,547 --> 00:09:13,424 and you do this by finding and ackowleding shared values 146 00:09:13,424 --> 00:09:16,931 within their existing worldview. 147 00:09:17,977 --> 00:09:20,646 And why does this work? 148 00:09:20,646 --> 00:09:23,850 Because it gives us those good feelings, 149 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:26,242 it gives that person a sense of: 150 00:09:26,242 --> 00:09:29,887 'well this person does have some 151 00:09:29,887 --> 00:09:33,437 good points on this particular aspect'. 152 00:09:33,914 --> 00:09:38,804 Some keys to natural brillance are that you really need 153 00:09:38,804 --> 00:09:41,915 to be a good listener in a conversation with someone, 154 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:44,864 so that you can learn what their worldview is, 155 00:09:44,864 --> 00:09:47,488 find out what's important to them. 156 00:09:47,488 --> 00:09:50,367 And you wanna find areas of authentic agreement 157 00:09:50,367 --> 00:09:54,826 and then contribute authentic agreement to the conversation 158 00:09:54,826 --> 00:09:58,471 and basically it means that authenticity is important 159 00:09:58,471 --> 00:10:00,747 because I know when someone is being fake with me 160 00:10:00,747 --> 00:10:02,744 just as much as I'm sure you do. 161 00:10:02,744 --> 00:10:05,460 If someone is just trying to be manipulative 162 00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:07,942 and there's not need to in this case. 163 00:10:07,942 --> 00:10:11,514 We are talking about things that people have shared values in regard to. 164 00:10:11,660 --> 00:10:15,724 There is common ground to be found so all you have to do is 165 00:10:15,724 --> 00:10:18,696 find where the authentic common ground is. 166 00:10:20,511 --> 00:10:24,292 So I wanna review some shared values that 167 00:10:24,292 --> 00:10:27,380 you are gonna find in our resource-based economic model 168 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:31,258 what we are advocating, what we desire and also 169 00:10:31,258 --> 00:10:35,507 if you'd listen to a lot of other people and what they are looking for 170 00:10:35,507 --> 00:10:38,943 is basically the same thing in one form or another 171 00:10:38,943 --> 00:10:42,519 and if not all of these things, some of these things. So... 172 00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:46,327 Human equality, efficiency or sustainability, 173 00:10:46,327 --> 00:10:50,112 scientific proof or evidence, health and well being 174 00:10:50,112 --> 00:10:53,363 and freedom for personal contribution. 175 00:10:53,363 --> 00:10:57,821 And let's see (just as a reminder or refresher) 176 00:10:57,821 --> 00:11:01,978 let's quickly review the characteristics of a resource-based economic model, 177 00:11:01,978 --> 00:11:04,927 which are: no money or market system, 178 00:11:04,927 --> 00:11:10,244 automation of labor, technological unification of Earth 179 00:11:10,244 --> 00:11:15,190 via "systems approach", access over property 180 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:19,253 (so basically having access to resources vs having to own them), 181 00:11:19,253 --> 00:11:23,758 self contained or localized city and production systems, 182 00:11:23,758 --> 00:11:28,054 and science as the methodology for governance. 183 00:11:28,623 --> 00:11:35,322 So that's basically, you know, what you would be leading into in a communication 184 00:11:35,322 --> 00:11:41,753 after you start with an agreement from a shared value. 185 00:11:42,691 --> 00:11:45,100 And we are gonna move to part 3 and them I'm gonna sort of 186 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:47,953 give some examples of how all this fits into a conversation. 187 00:11:47,953 --> 00:11:52,202 Comparing a Resource Based Economy concept 188 00:11:52,202 --> 00:11:55,151 to an existing or familiar concept. 189 00:11:55,151 --> 00:11:57,566 And this is challenging because it is hard to find 190 00:11:57,566 --> 00:12:02,768 where in our current system there are things to tap into 191 00:12:02,768 --> 00:12:05,507 that people can relate to. 192 00:12:05,507 --> 00:12:08,028 So I'll give you a few examples, 193 00:12:08,028 --> 00:12:11,289 the reason that the fish or sea animals don't eat each other 194 00:12:11,289 --> 00:12:14,052 at the New England Aquarium. 195 00:12:14,052 --> 00:12:18,093 and this aquarium is a four-story coral reef exhibit 196 00:12:18,093 --> 00:12:20,581 that includes over 6,000 sea animals 197 00:12:20,581 --> 00:12:24,362 and I was there visiting a little over a year ago 198 00:12:24,362 --> 00:12:28,844 and a child asked this question of the aquarium stuff: 199 00:12:28,844 --> 00:12:32,489 Why don't the fish and sea animals that would normally 200 00:12:32,489 --> 00:12:36,274 be eaten each other in the ocean do this in the tank? 201 00:12:36,274 --> 00:12:42,752 and how do you maintain your stock for this (or the fish)? 202 00:12:42,752 --> 00:12:49,649 The answer was that the reason is they have modified their behaviour 203 00:12:49,649 --> 00:12:53,480 is because the acquarium stuff is diligent to ensure that 204 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,938 all of the species are well fed with food that they are satisfied with 205 00:12:57,938 --> 00:13:01,259 and since they are already taking care of in this way 206 00:13:01,259 --> 00:13:04,556 there's no need for them to feed on each other, 207 00:13:04,556 --> 00:13:08,132 they can now swim side by side without a problem. 208 00:13:08,655 --> 00:13:13,542 So, do you think fish are smarter than humans would be in a similar scenario? 209 00:13:15,111 --> 00:13:18,488 Just something to think about. 210 00:13:18,488 --> 00:13:22,439 That was the human nature argument. 211 00:13:22,770 --> 00:13:27,381 Or this one: I personally find more freedom in not owning 212 00:13:27,381 --> 00:13:31,050 my own shopping cart that I would trying to lug it 213 00:13:31,050 --> 00:13:33,558 to the store with every trip. 214 00:13:33,558 --> 00:13:36,251 You know we can start to realize that we already accept 215 00:13:36,251 --> 00:13:42,497 sharting property as a freedom in certain present day contexts. 216 00:13:42,497 --> 00:13:45,400 So that makes it easier to consider that an idea 217 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,442 could be expanded upon within a proved outcome. 218 00:13:48,442 --> 00:13:51,716 So then you might think: well, are there other ways 219 00:13:51,716 --> 00:13:55,013 in which this might be useful? 220 00:13:55,013 --> 00:13:58,658 That we would be sharing resources where we need them 221 00:13:58,658 --> 00:14:01,909 and not needing to own them. 222 00:14:01,909 --> 00:14:05,555 You know, there is actually more freedom in that concept 223 00:14:05,555 --> 00:14:08,434 and we embrace it, I don't know anybody that would say 224 00:14:08,434 --> 00:14:12,358 No I have to have my own shopping cart, this is ridiculous. 225 00:14:13,373 --> 00:14:16,708 You know, so, food for thought. 226 00:14:19,235 --> 00:14:22,993 Also children offer a great example of how humans 227 00:14:22,993 --> 00:14:26,151 might behave when they aren't required to have jobs. 228 00:14:26,151 --> 00:14:30,005 Notice they don't usually have much paperwork represented in their play 229 00:14:30,005 --> 00:14:33,302 and there is probably not call to the insurance company 230 00:14:33,302 --> 00:14:35,439 that check coverage details. 231 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:38,016 We can learn so much from little people. 232 00:14:38,016 --> 00:14:42,010 But they do play to be helpful with each other 233 00:14:42,010 --> 00:14:45,841 and it is a sense of work, except that it's work they are enjoying. 234 00:14:45,841 --> 00:14:48,512 You know, they'd love to be doing that for real, 235 00:14:48,512 --> 00:14:50,694 as an adult thing to do. 236 00:14:50,694 --> 00:14:53,736 but it's not something that, you know... 237 00:14:53,736 --> 00:14:56,244 the kids aren't... they are playing. 238 00:14:56,244 --> 00:14:58,798 I don't know how many people's kids just sit around 239 00:14:58,798 --> 00:15:01,074 and watch football all day long, 240 00:15:01,074 --> 00:15:04,533 and then they never leave the house at this age. 241 00:15:04,533 --> 00:15:07,622 Although that would be more convenient for some parents. 242 00:15:07,622 --> 00:15:09,549 No, they are pretty active so I think 243 00:15:09,549 --> 00:15:12,451 they offer a good example when people say, you know, 244 00:15:12,451 --> 00:15:16,050 isn't everybody gonna be lazy if there aren't any jobs? 245 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:23,597 Part four is to make use of the Socratic Method 246 00:15:23,597 --> 00:15:27,173 a.k.a. (otherwise known as) Ask Questions, 247 00:15:27,173 --> 00:15:30,540 and really listen for the answers. 248 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:35,114 Asking questions encourages critical thinking on the part of both parties, 249 00:15:35,114 --> 00:15:37,622 but in order to really be effective, you need to 250 00:15:37,622 --> 00:15:40,222 actively listen for the answers to questions 251 00:15:40,222 --> 00:15:44,588 and then formulate a new response based on those answers 252 00:15:44,588 --> 00:15:47,188 instead of just waiting for your turn to speak. 253 00:15:48,742 --> 00:15:51,229 So, in order to kind of illustrate this, 254 00:15:51,229 --> 00:15:54,363 I'm gonna give you some examples of communication exchanges 255 00:15:54,363 --> 00:15:57,057 based on real things that had come up of people 256 00:15:57,057 --> 00:16:01,306 who after you sort of introduced the concept of a Resource Based Economy 257 00:16:01,306 --> 00:16:03,396 or maybe they just watched one of Peter's films 258 00:16:03,396 --> 00:16:05,695 they have different kind of reactions to them 259 00:16:05,695 --> 00:16:08,017 so I'll give you some examples. 260 00:16:08,571 --> 00:16:10,850 You know: Won't everyone be just as lazy 261 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:13,009 in a Resource Based Economy? 262 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:19,232 You ask yourself: What are the shared values or concerns behind this response? 263 00:16:19,232 --> 00:16:21,879 And this is really what you wanna look for. 264 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:27,405 Human Equality, it would be unfair for some people to be doing work 265 00:16:27,405 --> 00:16:32,862 or not contributing and just benefiting, 266 00:16:32,862 --> 00:16:35,230 and I think that's kind of the view so 267 00:16:35,230 --> 00:16:40,664 the human equality, and also that place into sustainability 268 00:16:40,664 --> 00:16:43,334 if everybody wouldn't just be lazy in a RBE 269 00:16:43,334 --> 00:16:47,792 you know, what would really get done? what would really happen? 270 00:16:47,792 --> 00:16:50,207 Would that be any place I wanna live? 271 00:16:50,207 --> 00:16:52,994 And of course you here are people that already get this 272 00:16:52,994 --> 00:16:56,662 but this is just trying to tap into how you might 273 00:16:56,662 --> 00:16:59,728 respond to this in a way that is tapping into those shared values. 274 00:17:01,636 --> 00:17:06,763 So you might, again I suggest a response that includes 275 00:17:06,763 --> 00:17:09,759 the shared value acknowledged and start with an agreement 276 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:13,613 I agree and in order for this new system to sustain itself, 277 00:17:13,613 --> 00:17:16,817 you can't have one group benefiting over another group. 278 00:17:16,817 --> 00:17:21,067 It has to be a fair system where everyone is reaping equal benefits. 279 00:17:21,067 --> 00:17:24,782 And what I actually like about an RBE model is that 280 00:17:24,782 --> 00:17:27,615 the issue of equality is addressed in the design. 281 00:17:28,246 --> 00:17:33,954 The idea is to reduce human labor using an efficient system design 282 00:17:33,954 --> 00:17:37,135 and technology so that the necessary jobs that no one enjoys 283 00:17:37,135 --> 00:17:39,643 become completely automated. 284 00:17:39,643 --> 00:17:41,988 And this leaves jobs that people enjoy like teaching, 285 00:17:41,988 --> 00:17:44,983 creating art, creating music, developing technology, gardening 286 00:17:44,983 --> 00:17:50,486 - work that mostly would not require a rigid, stressful schedule, 287 00:17:50,486 --> 00:17:54,411 or that could be shared in shifts perhaps with others 288 00:17:54,411 --> 00:17:56,825 to allow for family and social time. 289 00:17:58,054 --> 00:18:00,842 And then I would pose a question: 290 00:18:00,842 --> 00:18:03,164 Do you feel that in that scenario people would still choose 291 00:18:03,164 --> 00:18:07,272 to lay around instead of making a pleasurable contribution? 292 00:18:08,611 --> 00:18:11,663 So that's just one example of how to approach 293 00:18:11,663 --> 00:18:16,446 that particular person to open up the conversation. 294 00:18:17,384 --> 00:18:20,928 Another one is: But technology hasn't improved life; 295 00:18:20,928 --> 00:18:23,695 it's made things worse. 296 00:18:23,695 --> 00:18:26,431 So, I'd like to think in what would be the shared 297 00:18:26,431 --> 00:18:30,657 concerns of values behind this kind of a response? 298 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,833 Well-being, because we know technology today replaces jobs 299 00:18:36,833 --> 00:18:40,618 which are tied to income which causes people 300 00:18:40,618 --> 00:18:43,149 to have a lower standard of living. 301 00:18:43,503 --> 00:18:47,468 So there is a concern for well being underlying that statement 302 00:18:47,468 --> 00:18:51,137 and making a personal contribution 303 00:18:51,137 --> 00:18:54,293 also it may be when they say it's made things worse, 304 00:18:54,724 --> 00:18:59,450 you know the evils that technology is used for, such as in warfare. 305 00:18:59,450 --> 00:19:02,216 So our response might be: 306 00:19:02,216 --> 00:19:05,719 I agree. There is a lot of technology in existence today 307 00:19:05,719 --> 00:19:08,227 that does more harm than good. 308 00:19:08,227 --> 00:19:11,478 Military weapons are a prime example, in additions to machines 309 00:19:11,478 --> 00:19:15,170 stealing jobs from humans, and thus taking away needed income. 310 00:19:15,170 --> 00:19:18,095 However in a Resource Based Economic Model, the need 311 00:19:18,095 --> 00:19:23,343 for weapons to secure land or resources becomes obsolete. 312 00:19:23,343 --> 00:19:26,919 Technology created for this purpose would be obsolete 313 00:19:26,919 --> 00:19:30,170 and since humans would no longer need to work to earn money 314 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:33,699 in order to live confortably, I think in those circunstances 315 00:19:33,699 --> 00:19:36,272 we'd welcome the machines to do the labor 316 00:19:36,272 --> 00:19:39,225 that we don't enjoy or that is unsafe. 317 00:19:39,517 --> 00:19:44,554 Then Imagine what good things could be done by machines 318 00:19:44,554 --> 00:19:49,512 if money wasn't in existence or money is no object. 319 00:19:51,379 --> 00:19:58,219 Also, to give a current example of where technology 320 00:19:58,219 --> 00:20:01,099 can be used for really amazing things. 321 00:20:01,099 --> 00:20:04,117 Technicians are already in the process of perfecting technology 322 00:20:04,117 --> 00:20:06,996 that allows for the "printing" of vital human organs 323 00:20:06,996 --> 00:20:10,085 such as kidneys. And that's just one example. 324 00:20:10,085 --> 00:20:14,195 But, you know, it took a tremendous advancement 325 00:20:14,195 --> 00:20:17,678 to get there (in techonology), 326 00:20:17,678 --> 00:20:21,068 So, do we really want to all lump it into evil and bad? 327 00:20:21,068 --> 00:20:25,070 So these are some things you can bring up in that conversation. 328 00:20:27,536 --> 00:20:31,470 As a Christian, I think we need to take into account God's Will. 329 00:20:32,239 --> 00:20:35,463 As a response, so [what are] the shared values or concepts 330 00:20:35,463 --> 00:20:38,460 behind this response? 331 00:20:39,722 --> 00:20:42,569 Could be human equality, could be well being 332 00:20:42,569 --> 00:20:44,590 as you are talking to the person you can kind of 333 00:20:44,590 --> 00:20:47,539 get what that means to them. 334 00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:51,881 And so, here is some one way that you might approach it. 335 00:20:53,296 --> 00:20:59,990 Jesus is a great example of an advocate for a Resource-Based Economic Model 336 00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:04,419 per scriptures. So, for example: 337 00:21:04,419 --> 00:21:06,788 "For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, 338 00:21:06,788 --> 00:21:08,738 I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, 339 00:21:08,738 --> 00:21:12,494 I was a stranger and you invited me in". - Matthew 25:35 340 00:21:12,494 --> 00:21:15,379 Note that he doesn't say you gave me a great 341 00:21:15,379 --> 00:21:18,228 competitive discount on these things... 342 00:21:20,004 --> 00:21:22,399 So it is within. 343 00:21:24,192 --> 00:21:28,034 He also multiplied the fishes and the loaves at that one event 344 00:21:28,034 --> 00:21:30,240 which sort of makes me think he'd dig this whole 345 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,630 post-scarcity aspect of it. Eliminating poverty, 346 00:21:33,630 --> 00:21:37,183 and allowing multitudes of people to have free access of food, 347 00:21:37,183 --> 00:21:40,666 shelter and healthcare. In fact, the only time 348 00:21:40,666 --> 00:21:43,150 he really gets angry that I recall es when he kicks 349 00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:46,262 the money exchangers out of the temple. 350 00:21:47,062 --> 00:21:49,513 And then you pose a question: 351 00:21:49,513 --> 00:21:52,694 So, what do you think he'd say about it? 352 00:21:52,694 --> 00:21:55,318 In that framework, and I think you'd be surprised 353 00:21:55,318 --> 00:22:00,171 that they may be a little bit more opened to further discussion on it. 354 00:22:00,171 --> 00:22:02,539 Next. 355 00:22:02,539 --> 00:22:06,417 We need to embrace a true free market 356 00:22:06,417 --> 00:22:10,178 and individual sovereignty and things will improve if we do this. 357 00:22:10,178 --> 00:22:13,220 So some shared values and concerns behind this response 358 00:22:13,220 --> 00:22:16,030 if someone is saying: no, we really need to 359 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:19,745 see what the true market has to offer and focus on that. 360 00:22:21,022 --> 00:22:24,621 This is more the anarchocapitalist libertarian response 361 00:22:24,621 --> 00:22:28,290 and I know it well 'cause I used to be in that thing. 362 00:22:29,936 --> 00:22:36,421 Human equality is definetly in there as an underlying atribute 363 00:22:37,575 --> 00:22:40,805 that they are seeking. Freedom of personal contribution 364 00:22:40,805 --> 00:22:44,637 is definetly something that they are seeking in this response 365 00:22:44,637 --> 00:22:49,699 and it's something that is a shared value of a resource-based economy. 366 00:22:51,284 --> 00:22:54,552 Response: I also greatly value individual freedom 367 00:22:54,552 --> 00:22:57,431 and also agree that a well-designed system will negate 368 00:22:57,431 --> 00:23:01,332 the need for laws that unnecessarily restrict freedom. 369 00:23:01,332 --> 00:23:06,046 These are actually among the very reasons I support moving to a 370 00:23:06,046 --> 00:23:09,436 global resource-based economic model. 371 00:23:09,436 --> 00:23:12,106 We are technically capable of moving to a system 372 00:23:12,106 --> 00:23:14,730 that would remove the reward incentive for crime 373 00:23:14,730 --> 00:23:17,864 and bump everyone up to a high quality of living 374 00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:22,462 - allowing for more freedom than most have in our monetary system, 375 00:23:22,462 --> 00:23:25,759 where we have to have money in order to make money 376 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:29,939 and we become enslaved to labor through debt to survive. 377 00:23:29,939 --> 00:23:34,188 So I'd be thrilled to have only Natural Laws to answer to 378 00:23:34,188 --> 00:23:38,275 and an inherent freedom to pursue my passions in tandem with 379 00:23:38,275 --> 00:23:41,735 contributing to an overall healthy enviroment. 380 00:23:41,735 --> 00:23:44,322 So those values are definetly there and represented. 381 00:23:44,322 --> 00:23:48,147 The very thing that they are concerned about is 382 00:23:48,147 --> 00:23:52,509 acknowledged in the design of what we are advocating. 383 00:23:54,001 --> 00:23:57,663 Ok here is the other piece of it, we have to know when to walk away. 384 00:23:59,401 --> 00:24:02,052 Walk away when the person... 385 00:24:02,052 --> 00:24:04,676 (and this is what they look like to us 386 00:24:04,676 --> 00:24:06,975 when they are acting this way, anyway I think) 387 00:24:06,975 --> 00:24:09,610 ...is not asking any questions, they are just making statements. 388 00:24:09,610 --> 00:24:11,921 ...they are asking questions, 389 00:24:11,921 --> 00:24:14,986 but they don't appear interested in sincere responses. 390 00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:18,445 (they really aren't interested in what you have to say) or 391 00:24:18,445 --> 00:24:21,654 ...They are attempting to insult you. 392 00:24:21,762 --> 00:24:24,692 There is not need to continue that conversation at that point. 393 00:24:24,692 --> 00:24:27,385 We are not trying to be evangelist. 394 00:24:27,385 --> 00:24:30,543 In fact, basically the best thing you can do with 395 00:24:30,543 --> 00:24:34,978 what we are trying to do as a movement is to sow seeds. 396 00:24:34,978 --> 00:24:37,950 and basically as you are sowing seeds 397 00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:43,059 and all that is, is just introducing it, not even seeking agreement from that person, 398 00:24:43,059 --> 00:24:45,775 but just getting the information to them, 399 00:24:45,775 --> 00:24:49,235 having to them to think about it for a second or two and 400 00:24:49,235 --> 00:24:52,277 As bio-social pressures rise and more and more people look 401 00:24:52,277 --> 00:24:57,385 for a different solution, a more comprehensive solution to today's problems, 402 00:24:57,385 --> 00:25:01,008 interest in this train of thought is likely to grow and grow. 403 00:25:02,146 --> 00:25:05,652 And part six: Always Maintain a Sense of Humor 404 00:25:05,652 --> 00:25:07,811 So I wanna to end on this example 405 00:25:07,811 --> 00:25:10,551 because it's one that always give me a chuckle. 406 00:25:10,551 --> 00:25:14,266 I can't support this RBE model until I see the hard evidence 407 00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:18,585 that it works. Where are the peer-reviewed papers? 408 00:25:18,585 --> 00:25:20,884 and I actually gotten this one. 409 00:25:20,884 --> 00:25:23,345 And I know of other people that have. 410 00:25:23,345 --> 00:25:28,036 So the shared values or concerns behind this response seems to be pretty obvious. 411 00:25:28,036 --> 00:25:32,563 The scientific proof, so when response I may say: 412 00:25:32,563 --> 00:25:36,441 'I am also a huge fan of the scientific method. 413 00:25:36,441 --> 00:25:40,017 In fact, if you were to create a movement advocating a 414 00:25:40,017 --> 00:25:42,757 socio-economic paradigm where the scientific method 415 00:25:42,757 --> 00:25:46,728 is the very methodology that determines what ideas and innovations 416 00:25:46,728 --> 00:25:50,095 are implemented inmediatly to produce the desired outcome 417 00:25:50,095 --> 00:25:54,752 and which one go back to the drawing board for reworking and revision... 418 00:25:56,491 --> 00:26:01,328 what might you call that socio-economic movement? 419 00:26:01,328 --> 00:26:05,048 We happen to call it The Zeitgeist Movement 420 00:26:05,048 --> 00:26:08,113 Thank you. 421 00:26:08,113 --> 00:26:11,085 The Zeitgeist Movement 422 00:26:11,085 --> 00:26:17,958 Working for change in the dominant intellectual, moral and cultural climate of the time.